Roger Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 The last thing we want next season is an influential lallana sulking in the squad because he can't get a move. Even if he is not that type of character, anybody would be disappointed if they were denied the chance to play champions league football Well if he does then we know he's being silly. New manager may convince him to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Disagree saints have to act in saints interests not lallana's. If we let him and all the other targeted first team players we will be in free fall next season. Other clubs reject bids because they have ambition so should we. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 My opinion alone but it would be a great shame if Saints deny a great servant the opportunity of playing at a higher level in the Champions League. It has to be subject to the right price and I can understand Saints making sure they end up with £20M net. He is worth the £27M Liverpool will have to pay. By the way, I am told he does not get a cut in the transfer figure whether he asks to leave or not so his only focus is bettering his football career. As a Saints supporter I desperately want him to stay but I can see his point of view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 My opinion alone but it would be a great shame if Saints deny a great servant the opportunity of playing at a higher level in the Champions League. It has to be subject to the right price and I can understand Saints making sure they end up with £20M net. He is worth the £27M Liverpool will have to pay. By the way, I am told he does not get a cut in the transfer figure whether he asks to leave or not so his only focus is bettering his football career. As a Saints supporter I desperately want him to stay but I can see his point of view I reckon he might be in for a small pay rise as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 My opinion alone but it would be a great shame if Saints deny a great servant the opportunity of playing at a higher level in the Champions League. It has to be subject to the right price and I can understand Saints making sure they end up with £20M net. He is worth the £27M Liverpool will have to pay. By the way, I am told he does not get a cut in the transfer figure whether he asks to leave or not so his only focus is bettering his football career. As a Saints supporter I desperately want him to stay but I can see his point of view We all know he is going. But we shouldnt be bullied by Liverpool and our first consideration has to be Saints, not the player. It should be done on our terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Players should think a little longer before signing 5 year deals and declaring that they would be more than happy to play for the club for the rest of their career. Just shows how fickle it all is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 I can't see anyone paying more than 25m, I think he's already overpriced for that sum. Oh no. Saints value him more than other people are willing to pay. That means he'd stay. That would be terrible. Finding it pretty laughable that Liverpool seem to think they have the upper hand in these negotiations over Lallana. A take it or leave it offer at this stage is incredibly high risk, especially at a value below what we want for him, and when Lallana is so obviously Liverpool's top target. With the new TV deal, teams know that Prem teams have money, and they're unlikely to get an alternative target cheaply. It doesn't look like we're going to take the 'take it' option, so if Liverpool come back after that, it makes them look incredibly weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 My opinion alone but it would be a great shame if Saints deny a great servant the opportunity of playing at a higher level in the Champions League. It has to be subject to the right price and I can understand Saints making sure they end up with £20M net. He is worth the £27M Liverpool will have to pay. By the way, I am told he does not get a cut in the transfer figure whether he asks to leave or not so his only focus is bettering his football career. As a Saints supporter I desperately want him to stay but I can see his point of view He was happy to sign a 5 year deal, so can't be too annoyed if we tell him he's staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Surely someone at the club can give Bale a call and stir real Madrid into making desultory offers for Suarez and Sterling, just to give the ****ing vampires something of their own to worry about. Scouse gits. Final offer. Take it or leave it. Player will be unhappy. Calm down, calm down. Then jog on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 My opinion alone but it would be a great shame if Saints deny a great servant the opportunity of playing at a higher level in the Champions League. It has to be subject to the right price and I can understand Saints making sure they end up with £20M net. He is worth the £27M Liverpool will have to pay. By the way, I am told he does not get a cut in the transfer figure whether he asks to leave or not so his only focus is bettering his football career. As a Saints supporter I desperately want him to stay but I can see his point of view He should think twice before saying he wants to stay with us all his career. He signed a four year contract and if saints want to keep him he should honour it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 He was happy to sign a 5 year deal, so can't be too annoyed if we tell him he's staying. Exactly, if you want the security of a long term deal then you can't expect to demand a move. Hope we tell him he's staying. If we accept a bid then I hope he fails the medical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 He should think twice before saying he wants to stay with us all his career. He signed a four year contract and if saints want to keep him he should honour it. This is true roger. He will look a berk, not that he will give a ****. I guess it's a complicated one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 My opinion alone but it would be a great shame if Saints deny a great servant the opportunity of playing at a higher level in the Champions League. It has to be subject to the right price and I can understand Saints making sure they end up with £20M net. He is worth the £27M Liverpool will have to pay. By the way, I am told he does not get a cut in the transfer figure whether he asks to leave or not so his only focus is bettering his football career. As a Saints supporter I desperately want him to stay but I can see his point of view It's not all about Lallana, it's about what is best for Southampton Football Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Surely someone at the club can give Bale a call and stir real Madrid into making desultory offers for Suarez and Sterling, just to give the ****ing vampires something of their own to worry about. Scouse gits. Final offer. Take it or leave it. Player will be unhappy. Calm down, calm down. Then jog on. And therein lies the difference. Suarez and Sterling have not handed in transfer requests have they? They're happy where they are. It can't be about SFC or it's supporters for some of these players - if there's any allegiance it's to the likes of Cortese and Mopo - once they're gone the pack tumbles. Not tying players to their contracts = never breaking into the top 6-7 of the Prem. We've tasted some success in our terms this last season - we've mixed it with the big dogs - now is not the time to roll-over and have our corporate belly tickled! This is where Krueger and Reed will start to earn their corn - it's not too late...stick to £30m...make the circling dogs wince a bit at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 My opinion alone but it would be a great shame if Saints deny a great servant the opportunity of playing at a higher level in the Champions League. On the other hand you could say he's lucky we gave him the chances to prove himself over the years. We've paid his wages and helped him develop. We owe him nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 It's not all about Lallana, it's about what is best for Southampton Football Club. This. In Rickie's case, he will probably never get another chance of his dream move. Adam was happy to sign a long term contract and pledge his future to Saints. If he goes it should be for the amount we want, not what Liverpool think he's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Sounds like Adam want's to move pushed forward asap. Rubbish. He's never said anything. Total professional. Liverpool fans really unwelcome on here at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 My opinion alone but it would be a great shame if Saints deny a great servant the opportunity of playing at a higher level in the Champions League. It has to be subject to the right price and I can understand Saints making sure they end up with £20M net. He is worth the £27M Liverpool will have to pay. By the way, I am told he does not get a cut in the transfer figure whether he asks to leave or not so his only focus is bettering his football career. As a Saints supporter I desperately want him to stay but I can see his point of view If he wants to play Champions League football he can lead his team there! And he has not said he wants to go. It's all speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Ben Smith @BenSmithBBC 2m Stalemate in Lallana's proposed move to #LFC. Player wants future sorted before WC. #SaintsFC want to wait. Not the action of a club during a firesale is it? A firesale is selling players for bargain basement prices. A club mid firesale would have accepted the £20m bid, let alone the £25m bid they appear now to have rejected. If Lallana has a good World Cup his value will go up which probably isn't the case for Lambert. Player says he wants future sorted by WC. Saints want to wait. Liverpool want to look else where if Saints wait. Good news - he's staying and his futures sorted out before WC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 From an apparent sports journalist for NBC. @SportStafford: BREAKING NEWS: Southampton have Accepted a Bid of £25m for Adam Lallana this afternoon from Liverpool, Medical tomorrow. #LFC. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 I'm quickly falling out of love with the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 From an apparent sports journalist for NBC. @SportStafford: BREAKING NEWS: Southampton have Accepted a Bid of £25m for Adam Lallana this afternoon from Liverpool, Medical tomorrow. #LFC. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk If true final confirmation that asset stripping is taking place and that they aren't even bothered about getting value as long as they can get money quickly. Wonder why Krueger even bothered giving talks earlier in the week. Waste of time if their actions are to sell any and everybody as quickly as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Liverpool have bent us over and kicked the back door in. Next up, Lovren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Maya, Lovren, Gaston and Shaw next By day first world cup game kicks off we won't have a single participant. That would be a spectacular achievement by our fail board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Reeds in for an awful lot of abuse now if true. No manager and the Club selling its captain to Liverpool despite categorically stating this wouldn't happen? Oh dear oh dear. Still - not happened yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Hang on though. This has to be rubbish. How is Lallana going to get a medical in Liverpool tomorrow when he will be on a plane to Miami? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Hang on though. This has to be rubbish. How is Lallana going to get a medical in Liverpool tomorrow when he will be on a plane to Miami? Perhaps he'll buy his own ticket and catch the next one, Woy won't turn Liverpool down over anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Perhaps he'll buy his own ticket and catch the next one, Woy won't turn Liverpool down over anything. I can't see it. I can't see Reed being that stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Liverpool have bent us over and kicked the back door in. Next up, Lovren But we were in control of them doing that, right ? And the manager elect said it would be OK, they don't know who it is, but he said it would be Ok, unless of course it's Woy and the players ask him themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 I can't see it. I can't see Reed being that stupid. Perhaps the player is forcing our hand, but we're in control of him doing that right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 If Lallana has gone aswell for a fee below even below what we initially asked then this a disgrace. What's an even bigger disgrace though is the pure contempt the club must hold it's football fans in if they think they can patronise us about doing the best for the clubs interests on the playing side, not selling any until new manager says so, then simply doing the exact opposite right away. This is a major insult and an utter **** take, bordering on arrogance. Krueger has to resign now if Lallana Gordon the next few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 If Lallana has gone aswell for a fee below even below what we initially asked then this a disgrace. What's an even bigger disgrace though is the pure contempt the club must hold it's football fans in if they think they can patronise us about doing the best for the clubs interests on the playing side, not selling any until new manager says so, then simply doing the exact opposite right away. This is a major insult and an utter **** take, bordering on arrogance. Krueger has to resign now if Lallana Goes in the next few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Adam Blackmore "As things stand Liverpool's efforts to sign Adam Lallana before World Cup diminishing with #saintsfc board standing firm, as I write #LFC" Minor moment of relief in a sea of despair. Might mean there's a modicum of sanity and concern for their image. Still dubious that they aren't going going round St Mary's with a price gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Adam Blackmore "As things stand Liverpool's efforts to sign Adam Lallana before World Cup diminishing with #saintsfc board standing firm, as I write #LFC" Minor moment of relief in a sea of despair. Might mean there's a modicum of sanity and concern for their image. Still dubious that they aren't going going round St Mary's with a price gun. How does he know? Anyone could tweet that as the evening draws in! Still accepting any minor relief though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Adam Blackmore "As things stand Liverpool's efforts to sign Adam Lallana before World Cup diminishing with #saintsfc board standing firm, as I write #LFC" Minor moment of relief in a sea of despair. Might mean there's a modicum of sanity and concern for their image. Still dubious that they aren't going going round St Mary's with a price gun.perhaps the board are calling Liverpools bluff. Things could turn very quickly positive if the board indeed comes up trumps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 scouse git: For me he's worth 20 max, we got Suarez for 23m So will Liverpool sell us Suarez for £23 million? They can have Lallana for £20 million, so that just leaves £3 million we owe Liverpool for Suarez. Let's get the deal done now, no reason to fart about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPete Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 My opinion alone but it would be a great shame if Saints deny a great servant the opportunity of playing at a higher level in the Champions League. It has to be subject to the right price and I can understand Saints making sure they end up with £20M net. He is worth the £27M Liverpool will have to pay. By the way, I am told he does not get a cut in the transfer figure whether he asks to leave or not so his only focus is bettering his football career. As a Saints supporter I desperately want him to stay but I can see his point of view I know you are somewhat biased, but it is this sense of entitlement that is exactly what's wrong with the modern game. It was only one year ago that AL signed a five year contract and stated ""If someone was to say that I'd end my career playing for Southampton in the Premier League then I'd snap your hand off for it". He was happy to sign this contract on the back of a pretty average first season in the Premier League. He performs exceptionally well in his second season and now he "deserves" to be playing in the Champions League? If he deserves it so much why doesn't he try and get there with a Southampton team full of international players rather than taking a short cut? Perhaps he should have a read of the article on the other thread: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?50524-Spot-on-article#.U4oCaCir_ec It's a pretty good summary of the modern game and modern footballers and concludes: "Not to pick on Adam Lallana, but isn’t his attitude symptomatic of the problem? He’s come up through the divisions with Southampton, he’s become a Premier League player, and the club have also given him the platform to win his first England caps and to go to a World Cup. But he still wants more. How sad that a higher wage and a couple of games in Europe can turn his head away from a project that he’s been such an integral part of for so long. It’s all just starting to feel so futile." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 scouse git: So will Liverpool sell us Suarez for £23 million? They can have Lallana for £20 million, so that just leaves £3 million we owe Liverpool for Suarez. Let's get the deal done now, no reason to fart about. Call it quits with Rickie! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 I know you are somewhat biased, but it is this sense of entitlement that is exactly what's wrong with the modern game. It was only one year ago that AL signed a five year contract and stated ""If someone was to say that I'd end my career playing for Southampton in the Premier League then I'd snap your hand off for it". He was happy to sign this contract on the back of a pretty average first season in the Premier League. He performs exceptionally well in his second season and now he "deserves" to be playing in the Champions League? If he deserves it so much why doesn't he try and get there with a Southampton team full of international players rather than taking a short cut? Perhaps he should have a read of the article on the other thread: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?50524-Spot-on-article#.U4oCaCir_ec It's a pretty good summary of the modern game and modern footballers and concludes: "Not to pick on Adam Lallana, but isn’t his attitude symptomatic of the problem? He’s come up through the divisions with Southampton, he’s become a Premier League player, and the club have also given him the platform to win his first England caps and to go to a World Cup. But he still wants more. How sad that a higher wage and a couple of games in Europe can turn his head away from a project that he’s been such an integral part of for so long. It’s all just starting to feel so futile." Spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Adam Blackmore "As things stand Liverpool's efforts to sign Adam Lallana before World Cup diminishing with #saintsfc board standing firm, as I write #LFC" Worst asset strip ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Worst asset strip ever. LOL lets hope so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Worst asset strip ever. Hmmm Golden Goose remains unshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Starting to wonder if Clattenburg was right you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Lallana for £25m Fabregas for £30m Appreciate there will be a big difference in wages, but who would you buy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Lallana for £25m Fabregas for £30m Appreciate there will be a big difference in wages, but who would you buy? Fabregas, all day long. He's been an immense player over many years, and is only 1 year older than Lallana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Lallana for £25m Fabregas for £30m Appreciate there will be a big difference in wages, but who would you buy? Exactly, £25m is a decent amount in purely market terms when you look at Fabregas who's got much more pedigree than Lallana. Whether the deal is good for us, esp with the Bournemouth fee, is another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Exactly, £25m is a decent amount in purely market terms when you look at Fabregas who's got much more pedigree than Lallana. Whether the deal is good for us, esp with the Bournemouth fee, is another matter. Fabregas is only going for 30m because there's a release clause in his contract. Without that any club would probably be spending a lot more. Saints apparent valuation of 30m for lallana seems much more like the minimum market rate to me. Arsenal paid 40m for ozil, man U paid 27.5m for Fellaini etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 (edited) Fabregas is only going for 30m because there's a release clause in his contract. Without that any club would probably be spending a lot more. Saints apparent valuation of 30m for lallana seems much more like the minimum market rate to me. Arsenal paid 40m for ozil, man U paid 27.5m for Fellaini etc. £30m represents Fabregas market value - obviously a team wants to get more than that and that's what we're attempting to do with Lallana. Anyone can throw figures around. There are unique circumstances around every player: Gotze for £30m, Silva for £25m, Cazorla for £15m, Shaqiri on the market for £15m and so on -all players who have achieved more than Lallana. If I wasn't a Saints fan, I would think £30m is quite a lot given what Lallana's achieved to date and his likely ceiling. Edited 31 May, 2014 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Perhaps Liverpool will turn their attention towards Fabregas. Sent from my XT1032 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 You cant judge anything on transfer prices as the markets too volatile, too difficult to compare and representative of far too many variables including emotional and irrational purchases. So basically, trying to compare anything is rediculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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