Batman Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 After all the departures. "Not standing in lallanas way" would be almost suicide by the club IMO
maysie Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 Would be naivety of the highest order if we give in. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
Dr Who? Posted 31 May, 2014 Author Posted 31 May, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27371960 Even if I take my Southampton hat off, I am thinking 30m. Saying this we do not have to get rid of him, so if this is the case then hold on to him and wait for stupid money.
Dr Who? Posted 31 May, 2014 Author Posted 31 May, 2014 Would be naivety of the highest order if we give in. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk Look at Liverpool they kept hold of Suarez against all the odds and they are reaping the rewards. We need to keep hold of him or wait for an amount of money we cannot refuse.
Baird of the land Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27371960 Even if I take my Southampton hat off, I am thinking 30m. Saying this we do not have to get rid of him, so if this is the case then hold on to him and wait for stupid money. If Everton held out for 27.5m for Fellaini, then adding the English premium(homegrown value) he's worth 30m easily.
Saint Charlie Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 Why does this all of a sudden need to be done today? Oh, because Liverpool said so. What a load of ********.
BotleySaint Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 £25m before the world cup? We say no thanks. Why would we sell now? Liverpool are now leaking news to the press and putting us under pressure.. The board better not sell. But I fear the worst.
Baird of the land Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 Why does this all of a sudden need to be done today? Oh, because Liverpool said so. What a load of ********. Starting to despise Liverpool.
Dr Who? Posted 31 May, 2014 Author Posted 31 May, 2014 £25m before the world cup? We say no thanks. Why would we sell now? Liverpool are now leaking news to the press and putting us under pressure.. The board better not sell. But I fear the worst. Seem to be in a hurry at SFC to me to strip our assets before the players are away for a month!
Shroppie Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 Liverpool have bullied us once over RL. Was very disappointed we didn't hold out until after the WC. It simply must not happen again. There is absolutely no way Saints should be doing a deal for Adam now. We are told we don't need to sell, so don't! In any case the valuation is too low and, with a good showing in Brazil he could be worth double in a month's time - which is why Liverpool are trying to shaft us now. If it really is a final bid, and I'm sure it isn't, walk away. If the board capitulate on this, I will be very disillusioned and very worried.
BotleySaint Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 Seem to be in a hurry at SFC to me to strip our assets before the players are away for a month! Rumors on here would have me believe that. But this feels like the first tangible test of what they say against what they'll do.
Gerry_Saint Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 If the Board continue to be pushed around by other clubs we won't have a team left when our new big name manager finally arrive. Show some backbone and clearly reject the Lallana bid. LFC will be back with more money anyway. We must show that we cannot be kicked around. Time for a strong clear message Krueger.
Saint Charlie Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 Lallana's camp will put a bit of pressure on and we will accept the offer hiding behind the fact the player wanted to go. Same thing will happen with Schneiderlin and Lovren, maybe others.
Roger Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 We need to stand firm here. If we do and say not for sale then if lallana and shaw kick up then at least the board will have done right thing and the players be the villains. We shouldn't have sold anyone til after World Cup anyway
Chewy Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 I would assume the figure of 20 million for our own pockets came from lallanas camp, not out of any negotiations with Liverpool. Lallana clearly wants to go and I assume we told him ok, but only if we get an acceptable offer and he will have wanted to know what that is. Telling the player is naive, which does make me wonder about our board. That said, if the offer isn't at the right level (as appears to be the case) we should point blank refuse, especially as his value is likely to rise in the World Cup. We don't need the money, and to lose our manager, talisman, and captain within one week for anything less than significantly over the odds (when we don't need to ) is poor business in anyone's book. I am not a bedwetter, have loved the last 5 years and am delighted with where we are now at as a club, and understand our position in footballs pecking order, but even I would have serious doubts about where we are going were we to sell lallana for this offer.
spyinthesky Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 Apparently Poch was in the Chilworth Arms last weekend deep in conversation with AL and his advisers. Could be that Liverpool have got wind of this and want to put pressure on the player/club before Poch starts putting pressure on Adam to sign for Spurs
speed demon Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 Lallana's camp will put a bit of pressure on and we will accept the offer hiding behind the fact the player wanted to go. Same thing will happen with Schneiderlin and Lovren, maybe others. Exactly this. If a club offered us £750k for Boruc they'd be considering it. F****** joke. It is actually so silly now that I am hoping (and praying) that there is some other master plan behind it like to give the manager serious funds or something. Problem is even if they do, we'll struggle just to stand still because of all the quality that will have gone.
Saint Charlie Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 Exactly this. If a club offered us £750k for Boruc they'd be considering it. F****** joke. It is actually so silly now that I am hoping (and praying) that there is some other master plan behind it like to give the manager serious funds or something. Problem is even if they do, we'll struggle just to stand still because of all the quality that will have gone. If the new Manager gets us to stand still then he would be LMA Manager of the Year. Almost impossible.
Wes Tender Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 (edited) Liverpool say £25 million, final offer, take it or leave it. Why don't we just say f*ck off, Scouse gits? Edited 31 May, 2014 by Wes Tender wrong amount
sadoldgit Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 Every player has his price. I would like to see the board say if anyone wants him we are looking for £30m as we dont wont to sell and dont have to sell. Hopefully that will keep the vultures away but if it doesnt, we have a more than decent price for him. If they buckle just because liverpool are playing hardball that would be disgraceful and we would lose all credibility. Frankly I just wish they would say we are closed until after the WC so dont even bother putting in bids for players!
Matthew Le God Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 For me he's worth 20 max, we got Suarez for 23m Suarez wasn't a proven performer in the Premier League at the time you signed him, Lallana is. Also £20m would mean Saints would only get £15m and why would they sell their captain and best player for £15m? Saints sold Oxlade-Chamberlain as a newly promoted League One side for £15m, let alone an England starter at a World Cup like Lallana is looking likely to be.
ratio_decidendi Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 So Ben Smith from the BBC has just tweeted: Stalemate in Lallana's proposed move to #LFC. Player wants future sorted before WC. #SaintsFC want to wait. Interesting development.
The Kraken Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 For me he's worth 20 max, we got Suarez for 23m And is Suarez worth £23M now?
Matthew Le God Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 Ben Smith @BenSmithBBC 2m Stalemate in Lallana's proposed move to #LFC. Player wants future sorted before WC. #SaintsFC want to wait. Not the action of a club during a firesale is it? A firesale is selling players for bargain basement prices. A club mid firesale would have accepted the £20m bid, let alone the £25m bid they appear now to have rejected. If Lallana has a good World Cup his value will go up which probably isn't the case for Lambert.
Bearsy Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 For me he's worth 20 max, we got Suarez for 23m Dalglish would pay £50m. I wish you'd bring Dalglish back to conduct negotiations
John Boy Saint Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 So Ben Smith from the BBC has just tweeted: Stalemate in Lallana's proposed move to #LFC. Player wants future sorted before WC. #SaintsFC want to wait. Interesting development. Adam we do not wish to sell you, you are the Captain of Southampton Football Club and we would like that position to remain so for many years into the future..................... There you go your future is sorted, have a nice time in Brazil. If that little part is true and not Liverpool punting out lies to the hacks, then you really have to ask who is driving the good ship SFC and more to the point do they actually know where the bloody hell they are going?!
Window Cleaner Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 Apparently Poch was in the Chilworth Arms last weekend deep in conversation with AL and his advisers. Could be that Liverpool have got wind of this and want to put pressure on the player/club before Poch starts putting pressure on Adam to sign for Spurs Nah probably still trying to mutually persuade themselves to stay at Saints.
obelisk Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 Ben Smith @BenSmithBBC 2m Stalemate in Lallana's proposed move to #LFC. Player wants future sorted before WC. #SaintsFC want to wait. Can't understand the rush myself. Perhaps the England coach might want to remind the players in the squad that there's the small matter of a World Cup to concentrate on. There'll be plenty of time for thinking about the future once that is over.
maxi_sopez Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 That Ben Smith tweet is the first somewhat encouraging bit of a news in an awful week.
St Chalet Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 Dear Adam, We are not selling you, future sorted Lots of Love Les and Ralph
GerrardFc Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 Sounds like Adam want's to move pushed forward asap.
sadoldgit Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 Sounds like Adam want's to move pushed forward asap. Adam is under contract so if we dont want to sell he is staying put. If he has a good WC his value can only go up so we are in the driving seat.
shurlock Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 Ben Smith @BenSmithBBC 2m Stalemate in Lallana's proposed move to #LFC. Player wants future sorted before WC. #SaintsFC want to wait. Not the action of a club during a firesale is it? A firesale is selling players for bargain basement prices. A club mid firesale would have accepted the £20m bid, let alone the £25m bid they appear now to have rejected. If Lallana has a good World Cup his value will go up which probably isn't the case for Lambert. Neither a fire sale nor an asset strip is going to happen. But just for your info the two are very different. Holding out for the highest possible price is not inconsistent with asset stripping. Indeed the two go hand in hand.
shirleysfc Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 For me he's worth 20 max, we got Suarez for 23m Yep, and you also paid over £30m for Andy Carroll.
Smirking_Saint Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 And is Suarez worth £23M now? Lets face it, its pretty rediculous comparing transfer prices, especially from a club that paid 30m for carroll
shirleysfc Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 Sounds like Adam want's to move pushed forward asap. You're all related up there, surely you must know someone ITK at Anfield?
John Boy Saint Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 Sounds like Adam want's to move pushed forward asap. If that the case he has to extract a digit and put in a transfer request to make it happen, which is something that has not come up in any conversations yet, it just seems like he is just coasting through the whole process letting someone else decide his destiny............ Quite bizarre if that's the case.
VectisSaint Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 Liverpool say £25 million, final offer, take it or leave it. Why don't we just say f*ck off, Scouse gits? Yep, seems quite simple to me, they have offered 25m and say they will move on to their next transfer target if we do not accept. So just turn it down, and if they are true to their word they will do one. 25m is really not enough, especially given the Bompey clause, if Bale is worth 100m then Lallana is worth 40-50.
sir_fred Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 The press seems to come with a Liverpool Agenda. All media reporting the bid as a take it or leave it. They also write that there is a risk of upsetting a loyal player. It is as if Liverpool media department has written the articles.
Jackie@home Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 I think Liverpool realise that there are clubs with deeper pockets than them. Well, tough. If they really want him they will wait to the World Cup is over. We should n't be railroaded into selling our best player at their convenience. Remember what you said, Ralph! Just stick to it.
Baird of the land Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 Ben Smith @BenSmithBBC 2m Stalemate in Lallana's proposed move to #LFC. Player wants future sorted before WC. #SaintsFC want to wait. Not the action of a club during a firesale is it? A firesale is selling players for bargain basement prices. A club mid firesale would have accepted the £20m bid, let alone the £25m bid they appear now to have rejected. If Lallana has a good World Cup his value will go up which probably isn't the case for Lambert. Very disappointing if Lallana is trying to force the club to sell immediately. Hoping impression that we are going to reject liverpool's undervalued bullying bid is true. Saints captain has to go to World Cup as a saints player. Ideally we keep him. Worst case scenario we get our valuation.
forever a red and white Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 The last thing we want next season is an influential lallana sulking in the squad because he can't get a move. Even if he is not that type of character, anybody would be disappointed if they were denied the chance to play champions league football
gammon cheeks Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 We shouldn't just wait we should not sell at all! Agree.....its about time Katrina grew some balls and became a man.
student Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 I can't see anyone paying more than 25m, I think he's already overpriced for that sum.
gammon cheeks Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 He still has 4 years on his contract make him stay
angelman Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 That Ben Smith tweet is the first somewhat encouraging bit of a news in an awful week. Encouraging in what way? Says to me he wants out and to get deal sorted pure WC. The club is under no obligation to acquiesce to his wishes.
Baird of the land Posted 31 May, 2014 Posted 31 May, 2014 The last thing we want next season is an influential lallana sulking in the squad because he can't get a move. Even if he is not that type of character, anybody would be disappointed if they were denied the chance to play champions league football Disagree saints have to act in saints interests not lallana's. If we let him and all the other targeted first team players we will be in free fall next season. Other clubs reject bids because they have ambition so should we.
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