Roger Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 I still do not know but Terry Paine says he is likely to go. I expect him to go if Liverpool have upped their bid to £25M. If we accept it it will be terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 How does the song to.... And if you tolerate this then your lovren will be next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Just grow some balls and tell them to **** OFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 That offer is fair value. madness, a current England international, team captain, player of the year, currently one of the most hyped English players,at the prime of his career and on a long contract for less than 20 million. That'll be a breeze to replace at that price won't it? This is not good value for us. Not least because of the continuing message it sends to the rest of the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 (edited) Hate this nonsense about not wanting to keep an unhappy player. Suarez wanted to go to arsenal last summer but Liverpool wouldn't let him and he didn't sulk on the pitch. If the deal doesn't match what saints want or if saints don't feel selling is in their interests now they are perfectly in their rights to fig their heels in and say come back next year. Which is fair enough - we just better hope that like the scousers with suarez we kick on next season. Lallana's too much of a good professional to throw a strop but it is neither good for him or us or indeed his value if he's stagnating in a mediocre team. Of course, that's making assumptions about what KL's ambitions are for the side. Edited 30 May, 2014 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Goodbye Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 madness, a current England international, team captain, player of the year, currently one of the most hyped English players,at the prime of his career and on a long contract for less than 20 million. That'll be a breeze to replace at that price won't it? This is not good value for us. Not least because of the continuing message it sends to the rest of the players. I didn't say it was fantastic value - I said it was closer to the value we should expect for him given the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 We all know he is going. But 25m not enough considering the Bmth clause which leaves us with under 20m, a crazy figure for our Captain, on long contract and off the back of being voted by fellow pros onto the POTY shortlist. Lets at least stand up for ourselves on this one and not be bullied again by Liverpool. No we don't. Stop being overly negative. It's bad enough as it is. Wait and see you're depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 £25 mill is a damned insult when you consider they once spent £35 mill on Andy ****ing Carroll. I never dreamed that "our" England players might not be ours by the World Cup, but this board are doing their best to make it happen!! Utter utter shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27371960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 The Reds want to complete the deal swiftly or they will consider moving on to alternative transfer targets. Sod off onto other targets then. It would make such a mockery of all this ''Being done on our terms'' ''what is right for Southampton'' ''we are in control''. No Ralph, we're clearly not, as Liverpool have got us on our back and are tickling our belly at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 The Reds want to complete the deal swiftly or they will consider moving on to alternative transfer targets. Sod off onto other targets then. It would make such a mockery of all this ''Being done on our terms'' ''what is right for Southampton'' ''we are in control''. No Ralph, we're clearly not, as Liverpool have got us on our back and are tickling our belly at present. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 If we sell Lallana before the World Cup the board will be shown up as an absolute f**king laughing stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Simon peach on twitter doesn't seem to think offer is too good to refuse. Hoping he's right as I think it should be refused and hope Liverpool go after shaqiri if they have that little interest in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Ok they can sell the guys, but they could have at least let us have the pride of watching the lads in the World Cup as Saints. What difference would a month make? Could even have pushed the prices up if say Adam sets Brasil alight. No other big names will move till after the WC. Kruger and cronies have no soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Imagine if Adam travelled up to Liverpool for a secret medical with Rickie tomorrow and they announced a double signing. It couldn't happen surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langleysaint Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 30m or fook off never been so ****ed off over my 35 years as a saint ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Tell them to Fu@k off and then what? Will they really move on? If so and they really do go away, then you can guarantee the press will just start the Lallana to Spurs for 30 million rumours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 So much for all that badge-slapping by Lallana a week or so ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Simon peach on twitter doesn't seem to think offer is too good to refuse. Hoping he's right and Liverpool go after shaqiri now. Agree it's not too good to refuse -assuming the board is genuine about its ambitions and happy to turn down the money. That confidence has been tested these last couple of days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 So much for all that badge-slapping by Lallana a week or so ago. Some of the rumoured statements by the players haven't helped our negotiating position one jot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 The press will not be happy until we are firmly put back in our place...where they see us, a small fry feeder club in the lower tiers of English football. we aren't allowed to have good players because we are the unpopular Southampton. We aren't a London club and we aren't one of the "big" clubs. I can just see them all now high fiving each other with each and every rumour that edges nearer the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Very small consolation but if he has to go would rather Liverpool than Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 The press will not be happy until we are firmly put back in our place...where they see us, a small fry feeder club in the lower tiers of English football. we aren't allowed to have good players because we are the unpopular Southampton. We aren't a London club and we aren't one of the "big" clubs. I can just see them all now high fiving each other with each and every rumour that edges nearer the truth. You really believe that? Most journos have been gushing about Saints and saying how refreshing. Is this all part of the plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 @bigadamsport: Update via @BenSmithBBC - #saintsfc told Liverpool they wanted to net 20M from Lallana sale, when rejecting initial bid - #afcb get 25% WTF would you tell them that. Absolute amateurs, this board is so far out of it's depth it is untrue. And the more I read the more I am beginning to believe that this is a full scale asset strip going on before our very eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 So much for all that badge-slapping by Lallana a week or so ago. To be fair Adams been professional. But I'm afraid I'm not letting him leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langleysaint Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 The board have said we do not need to sell ? So do not sell !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 For 25m I'd let him go. He's simply not worth that kind of money. Great player but not worth that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 For 25m I'd let him go. He's simply not worth that kind of money. Great player but not worth that. He clearly is worth that and much more besides. In this day and age and being English, he is worth more than that. Andy Caroll - £35m. Jordan Henderson - £20m Joleeon Lescott - £25m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 For 25m I'd let him go. He's simply not worth that kind of money. Great player but not worth that. You have to remember we only get £20m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 You have to remember we only get £20m 18ish million actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFear Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 any chance our board could grow some ****ing balls and say 'sorry, but ****ing do one. youre not having our captain and brightest light'??!! its starting to take the **** now. what happened to these things happening on our terms??! getting pushed around as Liverpool want it done quick?! hes our player! you don't tell us when you want it done by Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 18ish million actually. Even Worse. Liverpool actually have us bent over a table with our pants down and with their cocks right up our arses and we don't even realise it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 @bigadamsport: Update via @BenSmithBBC - #saintsfc told Liverpool they wanted to net 20M from Lallana sale, when rejecting initial bid - #afcb get 25%. If AFCB get 25% of the gross fee and we want £20m, Liverpool need to agree a fee of circa £27m. Let's hope Ralph has grown a pair and says no. And I wonder if what was said is we won't even consider the bid unless we net £20m - but even so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 He clearly is worth that and much more besides. In this day and age and being English, he is worth more than that. Andy Caroll - £35m. Jordan Henderson - £20m Joleeon Lescott - £25m Not sure what this shows - other than poor business. Look at Nasri and Silva- both bought at around £23-25m, younger than Lallana and with more pedigree. In Nasri's case, he had already shown he could cut it in the prem - part of the English premium. Let's not pretend it's a million miles off what's being offered for AL. The fact that we have to pay Bournemouth 25% is neither here nor there for Liverpool or market value. £25m is £25m. Never mind the perception -right or wrong- that we need the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Should the club not only ask for 30 million but also ask that saints fans get free replacement wheels for the next 5 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 The board have told Liverpool we want £20m??? Do they have any idea what they're doing? I can hear Ralph's statement now: "I think what's important to remember is that this deal for Lallana has been done on such friendly terms which is so great to see. Everybody sat around the table and had a good debate and everyone is delighted with the outcome. The thing we are most excited about this though is that now there is a new space in our team for a new player to excel. That's what we've really achieved here, we need to keep the side as fresh as possible and losing Adam and Rickie will give the chance to others to thrive. And what's more, with the money we've got from this deal we've just been able to sign a new team of Accountants, one of them who used to work at Microsoft, so this is a great day for the Southampton Saints." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 I reckon they'll take the £25m if Bournemouth can be persuaded to reduce their cut to £5m. I have zero confidence in Reed or Krueger at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didcot Saint Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 The board have told Liverpool we want £20m??? Do they have any idea what they're doing? I can hear Ralph's statement now: "I think what's important to remember is that this deal for Lallana has been done on such friendly terms which is so great to see. Everybody sat around the table and had a good debate and everyone is delighted with the outcome. The thing we are most excited about this though is that now there is a new space in our team for a new player to excel. That's what we've really achieved here, we need to keep the side as fresh as possible and losing Adam and Rickie will give the chance to others to thrive. And what's more, with the money we've got from this deal we've just been able to sign a new team of Accountants, one of them who used to work at Microsoft, so this is a great day for the Southampton Saints." Pmsl brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 The board have told Liverpool we want £20m??? Do they have any idea what they're doing? I can hear Ralph's statement now: "I think what's important to remember is that this deal for Lallana has been done on such friendly terms which is so great to see. Everybody sat around the table and had a good debate and everyone is delighted with the outcome. The thing we are most excited about this though is that now there is a new space in our team for a new player to excel. That's what we've really achieved here, we need to keep the side as fresh as possible and losing Adam and Rickie will give the chance to others to thrive. And what's more, with the money we've got from this deal we've just been able to sign a new team of Accountants, one of them who used to work at Microsoft, so this is a great day for the Southampton Saints." hahahaha that is spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightysaints Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Got my ST yesterday on finance as there is a 14 day break clause. If Adam is sold I will be getting my money back no St for me. The board are out of touch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Got my ST yesterday on finance as there is a 14 day break clause. If Adam is sold I will be getting my money back no St for me. The board are out of touch You won't be owning a st then cos I'm telling you now he's sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 Sorry completely disagree. 30m should be our red line in the sand at bare minimum. Also don't think we can afford to let the exits become a stampede so we have to be tough in regards who we allow to go and ignore the players feelings. 2 seasons ago Swansea did great. They sold Allen but they didn't sell michu, William's, Taylor, vorm etcetera who were all coveted by other clubs. They probably wish they had sold him now though............... Also Swansea had delivered silverware and European football something we didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 I reckon they'll take the £25m if Bournemouth can be persuaded to reduce their cut to £5m. I have zero confidence in Reed or Krueger at the moment. I reckon they'll take the £25M and it will all be done and dusted in the next few days. Shaw too, although getting £30M for him would be good business IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrivers Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 I reckon they'll take the £25M and it will all be done and dusted in the next few days. Shaw too, although getting £30M for him would be good business IMO. Well if Liverpool are going to move onto other targets the turn the bid down. They are acting like it's our last chance otherwise we will miss out on selling like that's a bad thing! If that's the way the board are acting then **** me we are screwed. Seems like a great chance to play hardball here. But guess not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 The board have told Liverpool we want £20m??? Do they have any idea what they're doing? I can hear Ralph's statement now: "I think what's important to remember is that this deal for Lallana has been done on such friendly terms which is so great to see. Everybody sat around the table and had a good debate and everyone is delighted with the outcome. The thing we are most excited about this though is that now there is a new space in our team for a new player to excel. That's what we've really achieved here, we need to keep the side as fresh as possible and losing Adam and Rickie will give the chance to others to thrive. And what's more, with the money we've got from this deal we've just been able to sign a new team of Accountants, one of them who used to work at Microsoft, so this is a great day for the Southampton Saints." Brilliant, but sadly likely to be very close to the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madruss Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 If ever there were a case to wait until after the world cup to negotiate for a player it's with Adam. If he has a great WC it will add serious value. There's just no reason to sell now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 If ever there were a case to wait until after the world cup to negotiate for a player it's with Adam. If he has a great WC it will add serious value. There's just no reason to sell now It beggars belief, doesn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 31 May, 2014 Share Posted 31 May, 2014 If ever there were a case to wait until after the world cup to negotiate for a player it's with Adam. If he has a great WC it will add serious value. There's just no reason to sell now Which is why Liverpool are pushing so hard now and we need to be tough enough to resist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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