SNSUN Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 One for saints, and one for England. http://www.whoscored.com/Players/21683/Fixtures/Adam-Lallana So if we play down his talents and say he's actually crap, maybe Liverpool won't want him! :-) Seriously of the three Englanders going to the WC, it's Adam's value that will rise during the tournament. Selling him before hand would be nuts, I can see why Liverpool are desperate to conclude the transfer ASAP. If we have to sell him, the fair enough, but I hope our club's powers that be can hold off until at least England are knocked out.
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 most of them are never quoted at all, it's just round numbers bandied about by fans and journalists. But VAT is definitely payable on transfers of footballers. Unless you're Portsmouth FC (or whatever they were called). As I remember it they collected VAT when they sold but never handed any of it over to HMRC, arguing that it wasn't liable or something.
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 So if we play down his talents and say he's actually crap, maybe Liverpool won't want him! :-) Seriously of the three Englanders going to the WC, it's Adam's value that will rise during the tournament. Selling him before hand would be nuts, I can see why Liverpool are desperate to conclude the transfer ASAP. If we have to sell him, the fair enough, but I hope our club's powers that be can hold off until at least England are knocked out. Yes indeed. A good World Cup and his price could double.
Ohio Saint Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 Anyone got any hibernation pills? I feel like going to sleep and waking up again in August. Same here. What I hate is that I can check this site every day for Jebus knows how long and there is nothing to see except idle speculation and a load of wumming (Somewhat less of that all of a sudden ).....Then one day, Bang! An official announcement, and my whole summer goes pear shaped. I think this will be the longest summer ever as a Saints supporter.
trousers Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 Same here. What I hate is that I can check this site every day for Jebus knows how long and there is nothing to see except idle speculation and a load of wumming (Somewhat less of that all of a sudden ).....Then one day, Bang! An official announcement, and my whole summer goes pear shaped. I think this will be the longest summer ever as a Saints supporter. I've also noticed a drop in WUMing levels too. Its almost pleasant on here again
SNSUN Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 Same here. What I hate is that I can check this site every day for Jebus knows how long and there is nothing to see except idle speculation and a load of wumming (Somewhat less of that all of a sudden ).....Then one day, Bang! An official announcement, and my whole summer goes pear shaped. I think this will be the longest summer ever as a Saints supporter. I'd take this one over the summer we were in administration. Markus Liebherr made that a great summer in the end, but from the moment we were put into administration until the start of July when he bought us, we faced a horrible uncertain future, and even then we had to start on -10 points in League One. At least we'll start next season on a level playing field, will still have a good set of players, and will hopefully have even strengthened sufficiently in time for the new season. (Or preferrably in time for pre-season training, although we all know we don't rush summer transfers!) I agree though that this summer will probably push that a close second. The other summer I remember is the one McMenemy and Souness walked out, although if memory serves we signed Kevin Davies quite early on that summer and the Dave Jones appointment didn't take long.
Window Cleaner Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 Unless you're Portsmouth FC (or whatever they were called). As I remember it they collected VAT when they sold but never handed any of it over to HMRC, arguing that it wasn't liable or something. Band of Shysters.....they should all be locked up now, instead they're all out there doing it all over again. If you or I ran a business and didn't pay our VAT we'd be in sh*t street, PFC not so much, probably because some idiot in a government department considers ongoing football on Portsea Island to be therapeutic for the mentally and socially challenged. We've one in France like that,Justice Minister, doesn't agree with locking up criminals, it's more therapeutic for them to be allowed to roam the streets and start offending all over again.
SNSUN Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 [h=3]LATEST GOSSIP[/h]Liverpool have moved ahead of Manchester United in the race to sign 22-year-old Portugal and Sporting Lisbon midfielder William Carvalho, who has a £37m release clause in his contract. Full story: Daily Star On the BBC live sports feed. Their back up plan in case they don't get Lallana? Or a different player altogether? I'm sure one of you knows!
Wade Garrett Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 LATEST GOSSIP Liverpool have moved ahead of Manchester United in the race to sign 22-year-old Portugal and Sporting Lisbon midfielder William Carvalho, who has a £37m release clause in his contract. Full story: Daily Star On the BBC live sports feed. Their back up plan in case they don't get Lallana? Or a different player altogether? I'm sure one of you knows! If you read the piece in the Star it implies he's a defensive midfielder.
SNSUN Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 If you read the piece in the Star it implies he's a defensive midfielder. Just looked on the gospel that is Wikipedia. Apparently he's scored 300 goals in 48 appearances. That's quite a goal tally! :-) They seem to have a lot of money to throw around this summer. After the season they've just had, it's understandable, but I can't help thinking they should concentrate on their defence rather than throwing money at attacking talent like Lallana.
Delmary Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 [h=3]LATEST GOSSIP[/h]Liverpool have moved ahead of Manchester United in the race to sign 22-year-old Portugal and Sporting Lisbon midfielder William Carvalho, who has a £37m release clause in his contract. Full story: Daily Star If true, then their £20m bid for Lallana is taking the p@ss!
Chez Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 Just looked on the gospel that is Wikipedia. Apparently he's scored 300 goals in 48 appearances. That's quite a goal tally! :-) They seem to have a lot of money to throw around this summer. After the season they've just had, it's understandable, but I can't help thinking they should concentrate on their defence rather than throwing money at attacking talent like Lallana. you can never have too many attacking talents. Having said that I just can't see City, United, Chelsea or Arsenal signing him as they have lots tricky of `in the hole' type midfielders, so Liverpool is the natural fit for Lallana, apart from staying with is and becoming MLT mark II.
Window Cleaner Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 If you read the piece in the Star it implies he's a defensive midfielder. Yes he is, won't cost anywhere near 37 million £ though. 7 million perhaps. He's a brick crapper like Wanyama.
Ohio Saint Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 I'd take this one over the summer we were in administration. Markus Liebherr made that a great summer in the end, but from the moment we were put into administration until the start of July when he bought us, we faced a horrible uncertain future, and even then we had to start on -10 points in League One. At least we'll start next season on a level playing field, will still have a good set of players, and will hopefully have even strengthened sufficiently in time for the new season. (Or preferrably in time for pre-season training, although we all know we don't rush summer transfers!) I agree though that this summer will probably push that a close second. The other summer I remember is the one McMenemy and Souness walked out, although if memory serves we signed Kevin Davies quite early on that summer and the Dave Jones appointment didn't take long. I share a lot of my DNA with that of a goldfish. Particularly, the DNA responsible for memory and attention span.
SaintIT Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 I've also noticed a drop in WUMing levels too. Its almost pleasant on here again Very true.
scotty Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 I've also noticed a drop in WUMing levels too. Its almost pleasant on here again Well, I've been away for the weekend.
david in sweden Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 Anyone got any hibernation pills? I feel like going to sleep and waking up again in August. Me too, Snore ! Snore ! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 Anyone got any hibernation pills? I feel like going to sleep and waking up again in August. Wouldn't that be more like aestivation?
St Chalet Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 Anyone know where I can get odds on Lallana staying? Couldn't see a market on Oddschecker.
The Kraken Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 Anyone know where I can get odds on Lallana staying? Couldn't see a market on Oddschecker. I'll give you odds of evens. What's your stake?
CB Saint Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 Are fees always quoted ex-VAT? not sure, , however businesses generally never refer to it when talking deals, it is assumed that it will be added on
SuperSAINT Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/13/adam-lallana-liverpool-brendan-rodgers-southampton?CMP=twt_gu
Saint Fan CaM Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 Lallana will sign a new improved contract with Saints this coming week a source from the club has revealed.
St Chalet Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 I'll give you odds of evens. What's your stake? £20?
DuncanRG Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 Lallana will sign a new improved contract with Saints this coming week a source from the club has revealed. Revealed to whom?
jimmysaint7 Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 Lallana will sign a new improved contract with Saints this coming week a source from the club has revealed. He has a 4 year deal why does he need to sign another?
Appy Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 Lallana will sign a new improved contract with Saints this coming week a source from the club has revealed. Oh please be true, please.
Colinjb Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 He has a 4 year deal why does he need to sign another? Better wage?
Saints foreva Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 He has a 4 year deal why does he need to sign another? To make him our highest earner maybe? I hope the news is true but I doubt it.
jimmysaint7 Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 To make him our highest earner maybe? I hope the news is true but I doubt it. He just strikes me as the sort to not demand more money.his latest interviews all talk about competing for prem title,that wont ever be us so only see one outcome
DuncanRG Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 He just strikes me as the sort to not demand more money.his latest interviews all talk about competing for prem title,that wont ever be us so only see one outcome If he were to sign a new contract it might not be that he's demanded money, just that the club has offered it along with other terms to suit his plans. E.g. a reasonable release clause if a Champions League/title-winning club inquire after a certain date, freedom to leave if Saints fail to achieve x, y and z. You don't have to be a greedy mercenary for money to help make your decision. It's certainly not greedy to ask whether your current club value you as highly as your suitors. But anyway, this claim about a contract has nothing to back it up yet.
CityRanger Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 He has a 4 year deal why does he need to sign another? Because his value to the club has risen massively, added to that the tv money has risen a lot. New contracts will reflect that. I called for the stars to be given new deals when this speculation ramped up a couple of weeks ago. Its the way to stop the speculation, if only for the first season of the deal!
CWD Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 Lallana will sign a new improved contract with Saints this coming week a source from the club has revealed. This would be absolutely huge news. Lallana would officially become a legend of MLT proportions. Hope it's true.
Chez Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 Lallana will sign a new improved contract with Saints this coming week a source from the club has revealed. This will go viral on twitter. No idea if it's true. But ends the day nicely. Cheers.
shurlock Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 Lallana will sign a new improved contract with Saints this coming week a source from the club has revealed. Any more info? Credible source? How much would you put on it being true?
The Cat Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 Are there any odds on him to still be at Saints after the transfer window closes? All I can find are bets on him to leave.
St Chalet Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 Are there any odds on him to still be at Saints after the transfer window closes? All I can find are bets on him to leave. KrackenBet are offering evens.
shurlock Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 KrackenBet are offering evens. Evens is pretty stingy - got to be at least 2-1 or 6-4.
kpturner Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 Lallana will sign a new improved contract with Saints this coming week a source from the club has revealed. I was out with his Dad tonight and there was no mention of that, but then there was no mention of him going anywhere either. I think the whole family have only one thing on their mind at the moment - the World Cup......and why not!
DJ_TOAST Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 I was out with his Dad tonight and there was no mention of that, but then there was no mention of him going anywhere either. I think the whole family have only one thing on their mind at the moment - the World Cup......and why not! you were out with his dad and that's all you got, nothing. right ok
kpturner Posted 13 May, 2014 Posted 13 May, 2014 you were out with his dad and that's all you got, nothing. right ok Well sorry to disappoint you, but there really isn't anything to say. The club probably don't give minute by minute updates to players parents regarding transfer news, and nor do their sons for that matter. Besides, despite the fact that he is pretty open and happy to talk about Adam, I really don't feel comfortable about taking advantage and grilling him.
Ewell Posted 14 May, 2014 Posted 14 May, 2014 Lallana will sign a new improved contract with Saints this coming week a source from the club has revealed. If you can't reveal your source then fair enough although it would be nice to know some details about them I.e. Another player, coach, director, taxi driver etc I would also say if not true you should be banned from the forum for giving us all false hope. Will you agree to that or are you honest enough to admit its bull**** now? I do hope you are right btw just can't see it.
Saint-Beer Posted 14 May, 2014 Posted 14 May, 2014 The Guardian are saying Lallana might have to ask to leave : http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/13/adam-lallana-liverpool-brendan-rodgers-southampton With all this speculation who knows what to believe. Would he do this ?!
Saint Fan CaM Posted 14 May, 2014 Posted 14 May, 2014 If you can't reveal your source then fair enough although it would be nice to know some details about them I.e. Another player, coach, director, taxi driver etc I would also say if not true you should be banned from the forum for giving us all false hope. Will you agree to that or are you honest enough to admit its bull**** now? I do hope you are right btw just can't see it. Don't claim to be ITK. Just repeating something I was told. I have no means to verify the info and I will be as gutted as the next man if it's not true. Time will tell I guess. Last comment on the matter and really consider this...why is my 'statement' any different to the garbage spouted in the press?
Saint Fan CaM Posted 14 May, 2014 Posted 14 May, 2014 The Guardian are saying Lallana might have to ask to leave : http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/13/adam-lallana-liverpool-brendan-rodgers-southampton With all this speculation who knows what to believe. Would he do this ?! If I said Saint Beer will need to buy a lottery ticket to win the lottery this Saturday I would be factually correct. Doesn't mean that you would buy one or indeed that your numbers would come up. It would be pure supposition and speculation on my part. If you see any report in the press without a quote from at least one of the parties, you should basically disregard it.
holepuncture Posted 14 May, 2014 Posted 14 May, 2014 Don't claim to be ITK. Just repeating something I was told. I have no means to verify the info and I will be as gutted as the next man if it's not true. Time will tell I guess. Last comment on the matter and really consider this...why is my 'statement' any different to the garbage spouted in the press? If I said Saint Beer will need to buy a lottery ticket to win the lottery this Saturday I would be factually correct. Doesn't mean that you would buy one or indeed that your numbers would come up. It would be pure supposition and speculation on my part. If you see any report in the press without a quote from at least one of the parties, you should basically disregard it. Its cringeworthy watching this WUM troll backtracking, at least Barry Sanchez held his ground (RIP).
Baird of the land Posted 14 May, 2014 Posted 14 May, 2014 The Guardian are saying Lallana might have to ask to leave : http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/13/adam-lallana-liverpool-brendan-rodgers-southampton With all this speculation who knows what to believe. Would he do this ?! I do like that tone of articles i've seen today has shifted to us not wanting to sell. Still think the amounts being talked about for a likely attacking england starter at the peak of his career are insulting. £20M is a joke, add another 15M at least to that.
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