sydneysaint17 Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Has Le Tiss been on yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Have a horrible feeling that Pochettino is off, has communicated that to some of the players and that is why they are thinking about it too. Really hope Spurs go for Benitez, we pay Poch a monster fee for the next project and that keeps the exodus to a bare minimum. IMHO losing Lallana is far better than losing Shaw, and the latter would be just confirmation that we will always be a little feeder club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Personally I think Lallana is more of a blow then Shaw, and no, losing them doesnt anywhere near confirm we are a feeder club, especially if we recieve large fees. It confirms reality, that we are currently a mid table side without investment that contains some very good young players. As for Poch, I dread losing him, genuinely. But reslistically all three would be very hard to replace with any amount of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Guardian confirm we've rejected the bid... http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/12/rio-ferdinand-leaves-manchester-united-luke-shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Guardian confirm we've rejected the bid... http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/12/rio-ferdinand-leaves-manchester-united-luke-shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 We wont be able to rebuke every advance IMO, there comes a point when Shaw will believe we are being unreasonable and the bids start becoming too large to reject. Ultimately Ill be dissapointed with him leaving but if we play hardball and get a large fee then I dont think most will argue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 (edited) We wont be able to rebuke every advance IMO, there comes a point when Shaw will believe we are being unreasonable and the bids start becoming too large to reject. Ultimately Ill be dissapointed with him leaving but if we play hardball and get a large fee then I dont think most will argue Absolutely. Hardball is an understatement. I was talking to someone today about this and whilst I conceded we are probably still a selling club, we appear to be in the best position we have ever been in to dictate dealings with United. The player, so far, isn't pushing for the move AFAIK (haven't read anything from Luke in the Press). We have made it clear we don't want to sell (this snippet of the bid being rejected in the Guardian - how reliable that is I'm not sure). So, United will have to come back with an improved offer. I would like to see us not only push for the highest valuation but also the make-up of the transfer should be dictated by us also. This tradition of fee plus bonuses needs to stop IMO. United are desperate, have the cash on the hip, so make them pay the lot - up front. I would hope Saints would also add a substantial sell-on clause also, somewhere in the region of 15-20%. I can just about take our players leaving, that is natural, but we are no longer in debt, we are no longer cap-in-hand to the big clubs.. so cough up if you want our players. Top dollar. Edited 13 May, 2014 by jasonb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Except if you take that stance and grant Shaw his move, you have to do the same for Lallana, which in turn means a good offer will come for Schneiderlin, and you have to grant him his move, and Lovren, and then others. At some point surely you have to turn down good offers to make sure you still have a good team? Indeed i don't want this to become a game of dominoes, where we watch as the first XI gets gutted one at a time. The money will be meaningless beyond being nice for Liebherr's bank account as we won't be able to spend it on like for like replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Perhaps Saints could also make an improved contract offer to Luke, say double his wages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 I would trust NC to do the bargaining or better still just say 'no' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 £100,000 a week and a 5 year contract according to that Guardian article! That is just gobsmacking. How can an 18 year old even conceive of £ 5 million a year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 We wont be able to rebuke every advance IMO, there comes a point when Shaw will believe we are being unreasonable and the bids start becoming too large to reject. Ultimately Ill be dissapointed with him leaving but if we play hardball and get a large fee then I dont think most will argue Depends on whether he actually wants to move or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Dear Saints, please remember to put in a sell-on-clause like you didn't with Bale. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 £100,000 a week and a 5 year contract according to that Guardian article! That is just gobsmacking. How can an 18 year old even conceive of £ 5 million a year? Indeed, and you have to start thinking about what will make you happy and progress your career in the long run. I'd love 100k a week, but I still couldn't spend 25k a week. No european football. He's in the England squad playing for Saints. UTD need to make some serious improvements to challenge for the top (or even top 4) next season. I'm not sure this is the right move for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Personally amazed Chelsea not more interested, given Shaw supports them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrivers Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Dear Saints, please remember to put in a sell-on-clause like you didn't with Bale. Thanks. We did with Bale - but was just that we had to cash it in during the dark days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Dear Saints, please remember to put in a sell-on-clause like you didn't with Bale. Thanks. THe only problem with that if he goes to Man Utd is that he may never leave. I'm sure any deal for him will have some pretty good add ons though like money for a certain number of appearances, titles won, England caps etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 I would be OK losing one of Lallana or Shaw and using some of the massive fee to improve the terms to the other and the rest of the squad. There might even be enough left over to fund a couple of new players and a divi for the execs too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Personally amazed Chelsea not more interested, given Shaw supports them I think he will end up there. United have gone big and early because they know they can be out-gunned by both City and Chelsea. Also depends who United get in as manager. They will be years rebuilding IMO. THe only problem with that if he goes to Man Utd is that he may never leave. I'm sure any deal for him will have some pretty good add ons though like money for a certain number of appearances, titles won, England caps etc. Exactly what I don't want. All those bull**** appearance tie-ins. I know it might be unrealistic but I would love for us to push them for all money up-front. It should be on our terms. I would be OK losing one of Lallana or Shaw and using some of the massive fee to improve the terms to the other and the rest of the squad. There might even be enough left over to fund a couple of new players and a divi for the execs too. I think Poch will be convinced to stay if we sell just Shaw. If he is assured its to continue to improve. The only way we can improve is to incrementally move forward. The Everton model if you like. They sell a star player and re-invest some of it.. slowly but surely they ended up a top 6 side. Selling one of our star turns makes sense. Selling any more and we're going backwards IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Exactly what I don't want. All those bull**** appearance tie-ins. I know it might be unrealistic but I would love for us to push them for all money up-front. It should be on our terms. May as well stick some of them in though. Huge wedge of cash up front and loads of future tie ins to make sure we get a whopping premium for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 May as well stick some of them in though. Huge wedge of cash up front and loads of future tie ins to make sure we get a whopping premium for him. Oh that would be great. Our total valuation of the player PLUS tie-ins. However, the buying club will present the deal as: £20m up front plus blah blah which could total £30m (our valuation). All I am saying is call it a straight £30m and you have a deal. It won't happen but there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Except if you take that stance and grant Shaw his move, you have to do the same for Lallana, which in turn means a good offer will come for Schneiderlin, and you have to grant him his move, and Lovren, and then others. At some point surely you have to turn down good offers to make sure you still have a good team? Ultimately I agree, its a difficult difficult position, the only real way I can see of avoiding pressure from the players is to try and match their ambition and ask for one more year. I think the players will buy into that, as such thst is what they were saying in the press in regards of building and I even think that was Poch's original plan. I honestly think, definately with Adam, if he goes it heralds the end of the ambitious young side we have become accustomed to and yes you are right, should we lose one or two then everyone starts questioning the ambition, even I would and Im a fan. We dont know the inner thoughts of the new board, but players are ambitious and loyalty goes both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 I think Poch will be convinced to stay if we sell just Shaw. If he is assured its to continue to improve. The only way we can improve is to incrementally move forward. The Everton model if you like. They sell a star player and re-invest some of it.. slowly but surely they ended up a top 6 side. Selling one of our star turns makes sense. Selling any more and we're going backwards IMO. It is the crux of all this. Anyone know how Atletico Madrid have been able to consistently sell their best players and still achieve what they have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_TOAST Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 I can't take much more of this head feels like going to explode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 It is the crux of all this. Anyone know how Atletico Madrid have been able to consistently sell their best players and still achieve what they have? they certainly seem to buy the right striker replacements for those they sell. Torres, Aguero, Falcao, Costa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Pretty much every club has sold their top players in recent years. Arsenal sold RVP and Fabregas, United sold Ronaldo, City sold Tevez and Balotelli, Spurs sold Bale, Celtic sold Wanyama and Hooper. It's just annoying how when we do it we're labelled a feeder club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Pretty much every club has sold their top players in recent years. Arsenal sold RVP and Fabregas, United sold Ronaldo, City sold Tevez and Balotelli, Spurs sold Bale, Celtic sold Wanyama and Hooper. It's just annoying how when we do it we're labelled a feeder club. These clubs fought to keep players and didnt lose two or three and their Manager in the meantime. Also City were happy to sell tevez and Balotelli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 These clubs fought to keep players and didnt lose two or three and their Manager in the meantime. Also City were happy to sell tevez and Balotelli. They're also considerably better then the players we'd be losing and the proper definition or irreplaceable, not Adam Lallana ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 They're also considerably better then the players we'd be losing and the proper definition or irreplaceable, not Adam Lallana ffs. Not sure what your point is as the replacements those teams got will be better than ours, plus they also had lots more very good players. City have better strikers than Balotelli and Tevez now. No chance the same will apply to Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 It's called putting on a show. Southampton have to look strong in the media, that they put up a fight and got a good deal. United understand that Southampton can't be seen to give up their best young talent without putting up a fight and Southampton fans would all berate the board if he went at the first bid. Now you'll all turn around and say 'glad we got that extra few million' 'the board did a good job to get them paying over the odds' when it will just be the same deal that was always agreed. Members of the media will feed the story because they have to toe the line with clubs if they want exclusives in the future. Horse droppings, nothing more nothing less. Total Ballacks in fact! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 they certainly seem to buy the right striker replacements for those they sell. Torres, Aguero, Falcao, Costa An outstanding scouting network I guess. But I do think they're the sort of club we should be really looking at, studying and trying to copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Not sure what your point is as the replacements those teams got will be better than ours, plus they also had lots more very good players. City have better strikers than Balotelli and Tevez now. No chance the same will apply to Saints. But they haven't replaced them have they? Spurs haven't got a player in Bales league, United haven't replaced Ronaldo with a player of the same quality, same with Arsenal and Fabregas and RVP, same with Celtic. City is debatable but I'd rather have Tevez and Balotelli then City's strikers personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 But they haven't replaced them have they? Spurs haven't got a player in Bales league, United haven't replaced Ronaldo with a player of the same quality, same with Arsenal and Fabregas and RVP, same with Celtic. City is debatable but I'd rather have Tevez and Balotelli then City's strikers personally. You'd rather have Balo or Tevez then aguero, Dzeko and Negredo ? Really ? Personally Id go for Rhodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 We have turned down Manures bid so going on the Christmas Eve in the Turkey Shed mentality that exists on here that must mean Mauricio will be staying............ Woohoo!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 You'd rather have Balo or Tevez then aguero, Dzeko and Negredo ? Really ? Personally Id go for Rhodes Yes, really. Hence saying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 To clarify, Tevez and Balotelli over Aguero, Dzeko and Negredo. Good god. If you count Ronaldo and Messi are strikers they're the only 2 I'd choose over Aguero in the world, followed by Suarez. Then probably Zlatan. Tevez and Balotelli wouldn't even make the top 25 for me. Off the top of my head I'd have them behind Neymar, Diego Costa, Mandzukic, Lewandowski, Sturridge, Rooney, Benzema, Cavani, Falcao. OK, fair dos for the rest but these two? Sturridge looks like a hell of a player but hasn't proved much yet and Rooney is incredibly over rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Dear Saints, please remember to put in a sell-on-clause like you didn't with Bale. Thanks. We did have one for Bale but Spuds bought it out when we were on our uppers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Yes, true, forgot. But they got a bargain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Try putting "Luke Shaw is not for sale at any price" into Google translate from English to northern English. See if you get "increase your offer, add a performance bonus and he's yours"...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 (edited) To clarify, Tevez and Balotelli over Aguero, Dzeko and Negredo. Good god. If you count Ronaldo and Messi are strikers they're the only 2 I'd choose over Aguero in the world, followed by Suarez. Then probably Zlatan. Tevez and Balotelli wouldn't even make the top 25 for me. Off the top of my head I'd have them behind Neymar, Diego Costa, Mandzukic, Lewandowski, Sturridge, Rooney, Benzema, Cavani, Falcao. Diego Costa is signing for Chelsea for 32 million £ (or is it €) Puts the ridiculous sums being bandied about by Southampton supporters for Lallana and Shaw into focus really. Costa is just 25 . Lallana is probably worth about 20 million £, it's just the 25% owed to Bournemoutrh that makes that figure unacceptable to us, we'd be left with far less than 15 million to get a replacement. You could go for blokes like Aaron Hunt but he apparently has better offers with clubs qualified for the CL which is what it's all about for top top players. Edited 13 May, 2014 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Diego Costa is signing for Chelsea for 32 million £ (or is it €) Puts the ridiculous sums being bandied about by Southampton supporters for Lallana and Shaw into focus really. Costa is just 25 . The price for Costa is written into his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Coupled to that the need for 8 players in your 25 man squad needing to be home grown, then it is obviously going to increase the value of the better English players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 These sums are being banded about because clubs will pay them. There's no point in comparing transfer fees, it's always a completely different situation. Different contracts, ages, selling club, financial situation, competition for signature, desperation of buying club and many other things. Liverpool overpaying for Carroll or Chelsea overpaying for Torres shouldn't influence the price of Shaw or Lallana, nor should bargains like Michu, Schneiderlin etc. It comes down purely to what Saints are willing to turn down and what buying clubs are willing to pay. English clubs value English players higher, and higher still if they're internationals. That isn't going to change. This. All the nonsense out there saying an 18 year old full back is not worth this or that, totally ignores that these are players on lengthy contracts at a club that can afford to say sod off. The price, if any deal is done, is what we might accept - nothing more - and if any club does not like it, well find and develop your own players then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cestrian Saint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 He'll end up at Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Taunts is a strong word, he just suggested Shaw should stay one more season and got flack for it but still... legend http://www.basingstokegazette.co.uk/sport/11209186._/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martel Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Booooooooo Well Saints fans I have just met with Luke Shaw at Rownhams services with a under 21 player Jamal, I have written the conversation below as it was said. Me. Luke is that you. Luke Hi Me. Luke how do you cope with all the media speculation. Luke. I just ignore it all. Me No doubt you are getting good advice, however, just listen to an old fart like me for once. Luke Laughs Me. Man City have just won the premiership, think though, did they win it or buy it. Luke. They bought it. Me Exactly, so who had the greater achievement, Saints finishing 8th with a young squad some of which out of our academy or City? Luke. Good point.(Obviously recognized what I said made sense.) Me. Listen I am not asking you what your intentions are, that is your business and personal and you have to do what you and your advisers think best. Luke. Nod of approval and thanked. Me. In addition Luke, think about the Saints players that have left because they thought the grass would be greener, Beats and Bridge as two examples, both of the careers took a dive after that and do you want to be a bench warmer? Luke. That is true. Me. No doubt you drive a nice car and you can probably park it wherever you like, you won't be able to do that in Manchester, you will be buying wheels every other week. Luke. Laughs. Me. Please think long and hard about what Southampton are trying to achieve before you make a call, you can play a huge part in that, or you can be a small fish in a big pond. Luke. That's true. Me. If you were my son I would tell you to stay at Saints a bit longer, lets face it you are only eighteen, if you stayed till you were 25 you could probably demand even bigger bucks. ( Me thinking that must sound like an eternity to a 18 year old) Luke. Just smiled. Me. (They needed to get away) Just to say Luke, many congratulations on making it into the world cup squad, and what ever you decide all the very best, just stay with Saints. Luke smiled. Me. Finally, no doubt you watch football pundits say on T.V., just do one thing for me, Ignore Robbie Savage. Luke. Why Me. Because the guy is a Pratt and should be ignored. Luke. Laughs again. Said our goodbyes, could I have changed his mind, I doubt that very much, all I did was make the most of an opportunity to get my five eggs in, only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Well Saints fans I have just met with Luke Shaw at Rownhams services with a under 21 player Jamal, I have written the conversation below as it was said. Me. Luke is that you. Luke Hi Me. Luke how do you cope with all the media speculation. Luke. I just ignore it all. Me No doubt you are getting good advice, however, just listen to an old fart like me for once. Luke Laughs Me. Man City have just won the premiership, think though, did they win it or buy it. Luke. They bought it. Me Exactly, so who had the greater achievement, Saints finishing 8th with a young squad some of which out of our academy or City? Luke. Good point.(Obviously recognized what I said made sense.) Me. Listen I am not asking you what your intentions are, that is your business and personal and you have to do what you and your advisers think best. Luke. Nod of approval and thanked. Me. In addition Luke, think about the Saints players that have left because they thought the grass would be greener, Beats and Bridge as two examples, both of the careers took a dive after that and do you want to be a bench warmer? Luke. That is true. Me. No doubt you drive a nice car and you can probably park it wherever you like, you won't be able to do that in Manchester, you will be buying wheels every other week. Luke. Laughs. Me. Please think long and hard about what Southampton are trying to achieve before you make a call, you can play a huge part in that, or you can be a small fish in a big pond. Luke. That's true. Me. If you were my son I would tell you to stay at Saints a bit longer, lets face it you are only eighteen, if you stayed till you were 25 you could probably demand even bigger bucks. ( Me thinking that must sound like an eternity to a 18 year old) Luke. Just smiled. Me. (They needed to get away) Just to say Luke, many congratulations on making it into the world cup squad, and what ever you decide all the very best, just stay with Saints. Luke smiled. Me. Finally, no doubt you watch football pundits say on T.V., just do one thing for me, Ignore Robbie Savage. Luke. Why Me. Because the guy is a Pratt and should be ignored. Luke. Laughs again. Said our goodbyes, could I have changed his mind, I doubt that very much, all I did was make the most of an opportunity to get my five eggs in, only time will tell. Nice try I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Way to harrass the poor guy, christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Well Saints fans I have just met with Luke Shaw at Rownhams services with a under 21 player Jamal, I have written the conversation below as it was said. Me. Luke is that you. Luke Hi Me. Luke how do you cope with all the media speculation. Luke. I just ignore it all. Me No doubt you are getting good advice, however, just listen to an old fart like me for once. Luke Laughs Me. Man City have just won the premiership, think though, did they win it or buy it. Luke. They bought it. Me Exactly, so who had the greater achievement, Saints finishing 8th with a young squad some of which out of our academy or City? Luke. Good point.(Obviously recognized what I said made sense.) Me. Listen I am not asking you what your intentions are, that is your business and personal and you have to do what you and your advisers think best. Luke. Nod of approval and thanked. Me. In addition Luke, think about the Saints players that have left because they thought the grass would be greener, Beats and Bridge as two examples, both of the careers took a dive after that and do you want to be a bench warmer? Luke. That is true. Me. No doubt you drive a nice car and you can probably park it wherever you like, you won't be able to do that in Manchester, you will be buying wheels every other week. Luke. Laughs. Me. Please think long and hard about what Southampton are trying to achieve before you make a call, you can play a huge part in that, or you can be a small fish in a big pond. Luke. That's true. Me. If you were my son I would tell you to stay at Saints a bit longer, lets face it you are only eighteen, if you stayed till you were 25 you could probably demand even bigger bucks. ( Me thinking that must sound like an eternity to a 18 year old) Luke. Just smiled. Me. (They needed to get away) Just to say Luke, many congratulations on making it into the world cup squad, and what ever you decide all the very best, just stay with Saints. Luke smiled. Me. Finally, no doubt you watch football pundits say on T.V., just do one thing for me, Ignore Robbie Savage. Luke. Why Me. Because the guy is a Pratt and should be ignored. Luke. Laughs again. Said our goodbyes, could I have changed his mind, I doubt that very much, all I did was make the most of an opportunity to get my five eggs in, only time will tell. I'd hate to be a footballer and get that cringey stuff every time I stopped for a coffee with a mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 those are times when footballers completely humour fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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