Turkish Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 Its seems 3 separate journalists, namely crook, peach and Blackmore have now confirmed that Cortese and his camp have been leaking stories to the media. As I said a few days back its a bit of a coincidence most of these stories appear in the mail, the sun and the mirror who gushed praise on us when he was here. By the looks of these stories It seems he is intent on destabilising players and the current board via the media and to harm the club he once described as 'his baby' What are we to make of this people? For what reason would he so this? Don't shoot the messenger, I'm merely repeating what these journalists have tweeted, are they all liars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 Where's the confirmation? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 11 May, 2014 Where's the confirmation? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Look at their twitter accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 Either wants to drive KL away so he can swoop in with someone else's money and re take co.trol OR He is every bit the petulant little sociopath some claimed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 1) Even under NDA it is easy to do this IF you are a "Disgruntled" former employee. It is the same in any industry, you may have a grudge against your former employer but as long as it is always a "deniable source" then there is nothing that can be done about it. 2) NEVER underestimate an Ego. (Hell hath no fury like a Woman Scorned as an eg). He is mad as hell. He will believe he was right. (I am sure the experts can pull up Wiki Psyche descriptions that wil explain this better than I can) 3) NC wants to join the Mega Rich. Look at his lifestyle choices Eterna, Sunseeker, I bet his pad was in Sandbanks etc. He was only earning a pittance while with us (compared to what he would imagine he would earn continuing his work with Sheikh's & Sovereign Wealth funds from his banking days). (Why did he leave that industry? Well it was in post Lehman melt down at the time). He wanted to get the Liebherr family out, bring in new (did not sign up to FFP rules) mega wealthy investors and create the Next Man City, and of course pocket a mega "performance related bonus" as a result 4) His Business Plan would have included phrases like build from the bottom up. Be the opposite of Chelsea & Citeh. He will have believed that he could do it 5) He will still be mates with the Chinese guy and some of the others he will no doubt have spoken to over the years. He will know that if he HURTS the family, if he implodes the club he can walk back in as the Prodigal Son, the masses will fall at his feet and he can carry on. All he has to do is to make KL walk away. Get the squad smashed up in the summer, many fans on here have already said they will only judge Krueger on actions not words. Everyone leaves? Well, it will not take long for the Vitriol to start. Make no mistake, the club is still at war with the Don. Luckily we have professionals in charge now, it won't be nice but I actually think they may hold him off and leave the Grinch sitting with his toy train set and having plotting new sensations.... It's all club based at the moment. It will spread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 The best thing would be for him to get a job at one of these top Italian clubs that wanted him so badly. He obviously has too much time on his hands at the moment and is quite happy to stir the pot of ****e ! I can well believe he is the one behind it. Crook I wouldnt believe often, but Simon Peach and Adam Blackmore, esp Blackmore are pretty solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 Its seems 3 separate journalists, namely crook, peach and Blackmore have now confirmed that Cortese and his camp have been leaking stories to the media. As I said a few days back its a bit of a coincidence most of these stories appear in the mail, the sun and the mirror who gushed praise on us when he was here. By the looks of these stories It seems he is intent on destabilising players and the current board via the media and to harm the club he once described as 'his baby' What are we to make of this people? For what reason would he so this? Don't shoot the messenger, I'm merely repeating what these journalists have tweeted, are they all liars? Which are the stories you think he has leaked with the intention of harming the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 Genuine question - why? What is his motive for doing it? Does he just want to be disruptive or is he looking for a way back in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 Genuine question - why? What is his motive for doing it? Does he just want to be disruptive or is he looking for a way back in? I've had a good think about it, and my conclusion is that it is because he is a bitter little short-arsed pri ck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 11 May, 2014 Which are the stories you think he has leaked with the intention of harming the club? Can you link all the positive stories in the media since he left. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 The only man I know who had legs 18 inches long and yet his trousers were always too short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 Knew he was a psychopath, I've had my run ins with some before and this is how they operate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 It's a weird way of trying to retake control IMO. If it's out of spite then the sooner he gets a new hobby the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 I've always felt we haven't seen the last of Mr Cortese at SFC.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 This is a weird way to thank the man who took us from the pits to the premiership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 This is a weird way to thank the man who took us from the pits to the premiership That is a weird way to gloss over what could be construed as destabilising the new regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 He was only earning a pittance while with us (compared to what he would imagine he would earn continuing his work with Sheikh's & Sovereign Wealth funds from his banking days). Does anyone know what his pay was before he joined the club. When banks advise billionaires on what sports club to spend their money on do they pay that company millions and subsequently does that bank pay it's executive millions? Perhaps he earned a lot more at SFC than he would if he had continued at Banque Heritage. I bow to superior knowledge here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintadjg Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 I'd welcome The Don back in a heartbeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 I'd welcome The Don back in a heartbeat Even if he didn't have massive funding behind him and had to come through on his promise to run the club within its own means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 Can you link all the positive stories in the media since he left. Thanks in advance. Body swerve. I'm not making any claims so no obligation to link anything. Do it yourself if you're interested. You are making a claim. Back it up or it's pure conjecture. Off to the match now. Enjoy your day on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 If you really think that Nicola Cortese has the time,desire and hatred towards Southampton FC and it's owners to 'plant' unsettling stories in the media you really are deluded.......he's moved on. He loves this club.....but not so much he wants to damage it in the process. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 What have they tweeted then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 Does anyone know what his pay was before he joined the club. When banks advise billionaires on what sports club to spend their money on do they pay that company millions and subsequently does that bank pay it's executive millions? Perhaps he earned a lot more at SFC than he would if he had continued at Banque Heritage. I bow to superior knowledge here. No idea but as your last words say IF he had stayed. I conjecture that Saints went into admin around 6 months after the Dubai Financial collapse which was triggered by Lehmans. No idea what happened in EU but anyone involved in any sort of "Speculative" Financial Services industry down here at that time got burnt very fast (the days of the Porsche's left at the airports.. So it's a reasonable assumption to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 For those who don't know what this is about, here are the sources for the topic. Adam Blackmore (a couple of weeks ago, when Shaw/Lallana to United was supposed to be virtually a done deal): @gregvul @Zoggers87 @MarkReeves999 @SaintsWeb for info, there's been a concerted effort to destabilise board at #saintsfc with the Lallana/Shaw to United story - it may turn out true but source has been peddling it to media for weeks - some of us ignore stuff we can't prove/source @bigadamsport @Zoggers87 @MarkReeves999 @SaintsWeb can you say who is behind this or where the suspicion lies? Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport Apr 15 @gregvul @Zoggers87 @MarkReeves999 @SaintsWeb for info, there's been a concerted effort to destabilise board at #saintsfc with the Lallana/Shaw to United story - it may turn out true but source has been peddling it to media for weeks - some of us ignore stuff we can't prove/source (http://tmi.me/1e95xa) Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport Apr 15 @Zoggers87 @MarkReeves999 @gregvul no, you've missed my subtle hint - maybe ex-board people may have an axe to grind !! @bigadamsport @MarkReeves999 @gregvul surely he has better thinvs to do than link players to other clubs. Reckon he would sink so low? Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport @Zoggers87 @MarkReeves999 @gregvul phone calls from people close to him aren't a coincidence - doesn't surprise me at all Simon Peach: Lee Curtis @beatlesaint 21h @SimonPeach Do you believe the rumour that Cortese is stirring the **** and feeding some of the press ? Simon Peach @SimonPeach @beatlesaint Don't think it's a rumour For completion's sake, Alex Crook Alex Goring Crook @alex_crook 11h @Bradswag86 Pretty sure his camp are still feeding certain journos but I am not one of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 11 May, 2014 Body swerve. I'm not making any claims so no obligation to link anything. Do it yourself if you're interested. You are making a claim. Back it up or it's pure conjecture. Off to the match now. Enjoy your day on here. And it's not me saying he's been feeding the press, I'm drawing attention to what 3 journalists have said. It's not hard to work out though is it, lots of stories ever since he left of meltdowns, players wanting out, manager want to go etc, mainly in the same papers that used to blow smoke up his arse and lavish praise on us. Why the about turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 This is a weird way to thank the man who took us from the pits to the premiership It's not meant to thank him. Are you pleased with what NC's PR contacts are doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 11 May, 2014 How ironic he would become the 'dark forces' he once warned about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 I've seen the name David Bick linked with leaking the stories. Whether he's doing it on Cortese's behalf, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 I heard the story about our ex Chief Exec peddling unsettling stories to the press (particularly the Daily Mail - unfortunately can't remember the name of the journo there) from a good source who has no particular axe to grind. Also understand that Man Utd used possible transfer activity (including particular interest in Saints players) to deflect attention from the Moyes sacking a week or two back. Of course the latter situation is not unusual but the press speculation that can be attributed to an ex employee is disappointing but, unfortunately, not an unexpected consequence to a number of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 I heard the story about our ex Chief Exec peddling unsettling stories to the press (particularly the Daily Mail - unfortunately can't remember the name of the journo there) from a good source who has no particular axe to grind. Neil Ashton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 And it's not me saying he's been feeding the press, I'm drawing attention to what 3 journalists have said. It's not hard to work out though is it, lots of stories ever since he left of meltdowns, players wanting out, manager want to go etc, mainly in the same papers that used to blow smoke up his arse and lavish praise on us. Why the about turn? If it is true I wonder what the motive is. If the stories are true about him I wouldn't rule out spite but maybe he wants 'his' club back. If so it's not the right way to go about it full stop but you'd have to wonder whether some of the players and MP would be a part of it. Otherwise it'd be pretty stupid winding up those you'd have to work with again in the future (I'm talking players and coaching staff here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 11 May, 2014 I've seen the name David Bick linked with leaking the stories. Whether he's doing it on Cortese's behalf, who knows. It was his PR company cortese used whilst he was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 This is a weird way to thank the man who took us from the pits to the premiership It's a weird way to treat a former employer who just happened to make him the highest paid chief exec in the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 Wouldn't want him back at the club after this. Behaving like a spoilt child who's just had his train set taken off him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 I've always felt we haven't seen the last of Mr Cortese at SFC.... You would think NC would have better things to do. I got the impression last week that he is the last person KL would agree to sell the club to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 11 May, 2014 You would think NC would have better things to do. I got the impression last week that he is the last person KL would agree to sell the club to. I'm surprised he hasn't yet taken the job AC Milan have been begging him to take for what must be 4 years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 Are the stories true tho? We should get our own back and leak some of our own true stories to the Financial Times, like the time Hypo's sister got sacked for farting in Cortese's face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 You would think NC would have better things to do. I got the impression last week that he is the last person KL would agree to sell the club to. After reading left backs post again it seems KL was never impressed with him. By giving you the impression do you think KL is wanting to sell? If you were getting those vibes I assume she might be looking to sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 The Sun gushed praise on us? Like when they called us South Coast Club and refused to print our actual name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 11 May, 2014 The Sun gushed praise on us? Like when they called us South Coast Club and refused to print our actual name? I think you're forgetting they kissed and made up and the sun was very pro saints afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 I think you're forgetting they kissed and made up and the sun was very pro saints afterwards. Fair enough. I haven't read a tabloid for years in all honesty so have no idea what they've said about us, other than a few Martin Samuel pieces posted on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_John Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 I gave my views a couple of days ago http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?50119-Breaking-news-Liverpool-want-to-sign-Adam&p=1933438#post1933438 I still think it is (e), remember it is somebody "close to him" not "him". imo it is all part of the "ZERO out" versus "6 + MoPo out" issue going on, remember Jack words the other week about "the players ALL talk and ALL want to stay and play here". (By the way the "6 + MoPo" out route (imo) EQUALS relegation EQUALS Kat's asset (current value 120-200m) becomes greatly reduced) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesaint Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 Amazing how quickly we all turn against someone who this time last year was widely accepted as the best thing to happen to the club for years? Expect the same against MoPo and AL in a few months time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 Amazing how quickly we all turn against someone who this time last year was widely accepted as the best thing to happen to the club for years? Expect the same against MoPo and AL in a few months time? Or maybe some people had different opinions to the mainstream in the first place. Couldn't be, could it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 Or maybe some people had different opinions to the mainstream in the first place. Couldn't be, could it? Nah, I'm sure they would have let us know by now if they had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 Amazing how quickly we all turn against someone who this time last year was widely accepted as the best thing to happen to the club for years? Expect the same against MoPo and AL in a few months time? Well, who is turning against him? IMHO Turks has been very consistent as have I. It is perfectly possible to admire achievements and to recognise success. Doesn't mean either of us Married him or blew smoke up his ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 Surely these stories would be all over the media with or without any alleged input from past employees. It goes with the territory. I am probably being naive, but I can't understand why anyone (Cortese or his PR company) would be bothered to do this. At the end of the day it makes bugger all difference to anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 11 May, 2014 (edited) Surely these stories would be all over the media with or without any alleged input from past employees. It goes with the territory. I am probably being naive, but I can't understand why anyone (Cortese or his PR company) would be bothered to do this. At the end of the day it makes bugger all difference to anyone. If he was vindictive enough to ban a long term fan from having a season ticket for writing something he didn't like on a forum, engage in long running petty spats with ex players from years ago as well as numerous cases which went to court before he settled outside the day before for no reason, how much more bitter do you think he'd be toward the people who cost him a £2m a year job? Edited 11 May, 2014 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 If he was vindictive enough to ban a long term fan from having a season ticket for writing something he didn't like on a forum, engage in long running petty spats with ex players from years ago as well as numerous cases which went to court before he settled outside the day before for no reason, how much more bitter do you think he'd be toward the people who cost him a £2m a year job?Even if all this were true (not saying it is or isn't) I still do not understand what there is to gain by planting stories in the press - stories that would be there anyway. I am sure that if he were of a mind to conduct some sort of "House of cards" vendetta against those that own the club he would come up with something a tad more effective than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 Who would have thought that men could be such backstabbing gossips and that kicking a pigs bladder around could be so full of bitter twisted smalltimers. They could base a Game of Thrones series on all these unfounded rumours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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