Pastor Patrón Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 It'd certainly encourage me to pop out and buy a crane.
Barry Sanchez Posted 10 May, 2014 Author Posted 10 May, 2014 It'd certainly encourage me to pop out and buy a crane. Did you book a flight by Air Florida back in the day?
Mowgli Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 It would be a great move for both surely? Paying money to yourself isn't exactly a great business deal
nta786 Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 Paying money to yourself isn't exactly a great business deal :lol:
St Chalet Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 Paying money to yourself isn't exactly a great business deal Ethiad Airlines proves this! To answer the OP's point. 1) KL has no connection withe Liebherr business, as do Marcus. 2) Most Shirt deals are B2C companies, not B2B - fridges aside.
Barry Sanchez Posted 10 May, 2014 Author Posted 10 May, 2014 Paying money to yourself isn't exactly a great business deal Manchester City?
Mowgli Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 Manchester City? Not doubting it happens but just not good business. If we had an owner driven by their own ego I have no doubt it could happen but it's not the Leibherrs way thank goodness. They clearly see the benefit of profiling the name Southampton in an entirely different business sector with a totally new audience.
farawaysaint Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 Newcastle United? Terrible example, they receive no money for that sponsorship, Ashley is using them there.
stevy777_x Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 Paying money to yourself isn't exactly a great business deal It is if you want to bypass the financial FairPlay rule like Man city and PSG.
Barry Sanchez Posted 10 May, 2014 Author Posted 10 May, 2014 Terrible example, they receive no money for that sponsorship, Ashley is using them there. It is an example of an owner using their business name whether or not its a good example of business practice itself is moot.
OttawaSaint Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 Had they done that then the neg-a-bots on here would be posting that we didn't know the details of the deal and that KL was probably letting the "digger company" get free sponsorship and that we were mugs and #itshappening and all the other tiresome **** that pops into their tiny circuit boards...
Barry Sanchez Posted 10 May, 2014 Author Posted 10 May, 2014 Had they done that then the neg-a-bots on here would be posting that we didn't know the details of the deal and that KL was probably letting the "digger company" get free sponsorship and that we were mugs and #itshappening and all the other tiresome **** that pops into their tiny circuit boards... If a multi billion dollar company sponsored us only the ignorant would moan concerning that fact. The fact our owner who's family own a multi billion dollar company have decided not sponsor their own asset and let a speaker company have the option speaks volumes. (pardon the pun)
corsacar saint Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 Why should KL sponsor us, she has put plenty of her own money into the club.
Barry Sanchez Posted 10 May, 2014 Author Posted 10 May, 2014 (edited) Why should KL sponsor us, she has put plenty of her own money into the club. Katerina Liebherr has put plenty of her own money in the club? Edited 10 May, 2014 by Barry Sanchez
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 Apart from the fridges (one of which I own) not many people are going to go out and by a crane, or any sort of industrial metalworks. The fact you are even suggesting this is showing you're a bit simple, and that perhaps marketing/business isn't your strong point.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 Why should KL sponsor us, she has put plenty of her own money into the club. She also has no affiliation to Liebherr...
Faz Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 Katerina Liebherr has put plenty of her own money in the club? Yes
Window Cleaner Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 She also has no affiliation to Liebherr... Apart from them being her uncles, aunts and cousins that is...
Barry Sanchez Posted 10 May, 2014 Author Posted 10 May, 2014 Wolves are sponsored by redrow (their owner also) are their supporters going to rush out and buy redrow homes? Logic, reasoning and football are not in your vision are they?
Tamesaint Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 Bazza old mate, isn't it time that you shut up. It was 66 posts yesterday and you are already pushing well past 25 today. Shouldnt you go and do something a bit more worthwhile with your life than sit on this mong board all day, every day. St Chalet warned last week that the mods do not like trolls who post repeatedly. You don't want them to think that you are a WUM troll do you now??
Barry Sanchez Posted 10 May, 2014 Author Posted 10 May, 2014 Bazza old mate, isn't it time that you shut up. It was 66 posts yesterday and you are already pushing well past 25 today. Shouldnt you go and do something a bit more worthwhile with your life than sit on this mong board all day, every day. St Chalet warned last week that the mods do not like trolls who post repeatedly. You don't want them to think that you are a WUM troll do you now?? Tame With the greatest of respect put me on ignore, you don't have to be part of the debate, I did not force you to count my posts nor did I force you to comment on a thread that I created, why do it?
Bearsy Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 Because unlike Barry, Katharina Liebherr does not need to have her own name stitched in her clothing.
Goatboy Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 (edited) Liebherr could have sponsored us but they didn't. The reasons are unknown. Has Katharina put money in over the last 4 years? What do you think Barry? How much have you put in? Edited 10 May, 2014 by Goatboy
Goatboy Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 Because unlike Barry, Katharina Liebherr does not need to have her own name stitched in her clothing.
redkeith Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 Because unlike Barry, Katharina Liebherr does not need to have her own name stitched in her clothing. Chapeau Bearsy!
Tamesaint Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 Tame With the greatest of respect put me on ignore, you don't have to be part of the debate, I did not force you to count my posts nor did I force you to comment on a thread that I created, why do it? Bazza old mate. I have had you on ignore. The only trouble is that you pollute so many threads with your nonsense that there is little to read on this forum when you are on ignore. Go on. Switch the laptop off. Go and do something with your life instead of wasting it on here.
Barry Sanchez Posted 10 May, 2014 Author Posted 10 May, 2014 Bazza old mate. I have had you on ignore. The only trouble is that you pollute so many threads with your nonsense that there is little to read on this forum when you are on ignore. Go on. Switch the laptop off. Go and do something with your life instead of wasting it on here. You still do not have to comment, like a moth to a light, don't do it and all will be fine.
Barry Sanchez Posted 10 May, 2014 Author Posted 10 May, 2014 Because unlike Barry, Katharina Liebherr does not need to have her own name stitched in her clothing. Beersy you are a one.
Barry Sanchez Posted 10 May, 2014 Author Posted 10 May, 2014 Liebherr could have sponsored us but they didn't. The reasons are unknown. Has Katharina put money in over the last 4 years? What do you think Barry? How much have you put in? They are here in the business sense and want to sell? That's my guess, whats yours?
Tamesaint Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 You still do not have to comment, like a moth to a light, don't do it and all will be fine. But Bazza old mate I do need to comment. I want to be able to iead this forum without finding that 40% of the threads are unreadabe because I have you on ignore and you dominate so many threads. You are nearly up to 100 posts in just over 24 hours now. Go on. Switch off the laptop and go and do something with your life. ... and that doesn't mean returning on here posting as Glasgow Saint.
spyinthesky Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 Don't think that Katharina/Markus side of the family have much/anything to do with the crane/heavy engineering part of the business
Bucks Saint Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 It would be a great move for both surely? Ask her when you are there tomorrow
Barry Sanchez Posted 10 May, 2014 Author Posted 10 May, 2014 Ask her when you are there tomorrow Will do.
Gemmel Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 Go on. Really? As such an avid Saints fan, surely you would know all of this? I could give you a break down that amounts to nearly 40 million quid, of cold hard cash and another 30 million in obligations, that has come directly from Katrina, but with you being such a Saints guru, I doubt it will be necessary.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 Apart from them being her uncles, aunts and cousins that is... So how is that a financial affiliation to Liebherr?
Barry Sanchez Posted 10 May, 2014 Author Posted 10 May, 2014 Really? As such an avid Saints fan, surely you would know all of this? I could give you a break down that amounts to nearly 40 million quid, of cold hard cash and another 30 million in obligations, that has come directly from Katrina, but with you being such a Saints guru, I doubt it will be necessary. Has that come from her personal wealth?
Barry Sanchez Posted 10 May, 2014 Author Posted 10 May, 2014 Yes Katerina Lieberr has put £30-40 Million of her own money into Southampton FC? Well I guess I have to ask can you prove that statement?
Gemmel Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 Katerina Lieberr has put £30-40 Million of her own money into Southampton FC? Well I guess I have to ask can you prove that statement? Why would I have to prove something to an all knowing Saints fan, when the information is all in the public domain.
St Chalet Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 Barry, you are being both boring and tedious. Make your point and stop winding everyone up.
Barry Sanchez Posted 10 May, 2014 Author Posted 10 May, 2014 Barry, you are being both boring and tedious. Make your point and stop winding everyone up. By merely asking a question? I would like to know whether Katerina Liebherr has personally funded £30-40 Million of her own wealth as opposed to Liebherr Group (the company) themselves who view Southampton as a long term investment (ie bought low sell high philosophy). There is no wind up on this.
Gemmel Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 By merely asking a question? I would like to know whether Katerina Liebherr has personally funded £30-40 Million of her own wealth as opposed to Liebherr Group (the company) themselves who view Southampton as a long term investment (ie bought low sell high philosophy). There is no wind up on this. The Liebherr group are nothing to do with Katrina you fool
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 By merely asking a question? I would like to know whether Katerina Liebherr has personally funded £30-40 Million of her own wealth as opposed to Liebherr Group (the company) themselves who view Southampton as a long term investment (ie bought low sell high philosophy). There is no wind up on this. I presume you mean the MALI group if companies that her dad created. As I understand it this has now been dissolved. Although she did not out the money in herself it is now her money that is invested. In this situation any sponsorship would be viewed and evaluated in its own right as to its cost-effectiveness.
sotonist Posted 10 May, 2014 Posted 10 May, 2014 The Liebherr group are nothing to do with Katrina you fool if willi and isolde and their entire families simultaneously fell into a hole she might stand to inherit a portion of the business. i'm not familiar with swiss inheritance law though.
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