Pastor Patrón Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Who would you be most annoyed about selling? Number one would be Shaw for me, mostly because it would reassert our status as a feeder club and it ****es me off seeing our academy players playing for top teams. Mostly an ego thing, I'd be absolutely fuming tbh. Number two Schneiderlin. Simply because he's the best player of the three imo and its nice having our DM completely locked down player wise. Thirdly, Lallana. He's obviously class but AM's aren't generally that hard to replace, Gaston could be a better player by the time he's his age, and he seems to go missing for chunks of the season. He's never quite felt like an academy player to me either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 (edited) 1) Lallana: Captain and icon of the club, who has been with us through the worst times. He's been vital to how we've fared this season and we'd be stripped of so much creativity without him. The morale of many fans would nosedive if he left. I think he is irreplaceable. 2) Morgan: Again, he's been with us through relegation to League 1 and back up again. Although we have decent options in his position with Wanyama, Cork, and the likes of JWP, Davis, and Reed able to drop deeper, none possess his all-round qualities. He makes the midfield tick. 3) Shaw: Ridiculous ability, incredible potential and would be sad to see him go, but don't think the bond between him and the fans is quite as sentimental. He's a Chelsea fan and destined for a top 4 club. We've got Matty Targett coming through as well, whom big things are expected of, and at least the kid is a Saints fan. Although he is clearly level-headed, not always certain that Shaw shares the same appreciation of the club as the likes of Chambers and JWP, and his future has always been worryingly aligned with Cortese in media reports (remember when his Dad went ape sh*t on twitter with KL and the new board when he resigned?) If his sale meant keeping all of our other players this summer and providing Poch with a sizeable transfer kitty then I'd grudgingly accept. Edited 6 May, 2014 by Toon Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Who would you be most annoyed about selling? Number one would be Shaw for me, mostly because it would reassert our status as a feeder club and it ****es me off seeing our academy players playing for top teams. Mostly an ego thing, I'd be absolutely fuming tbh. Number two Schneiderlin. Simply because he's the best player of the three imo and its nice having our DM completely locked down player wise. Thirdly, Lallana. He's obviously class but AM's aren't generally that hard to replace, Gaston could be a better player by the time he's his age, and he seems to go missing for chunks of the season. He's never quite felt like an academy player to me either. OMG. Someone REALLY thinks The Gash can/wants to step into Lallana's shoes. That really is something special to see.... With all due respect, you are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Lallana any day, he would be almost impossible to replace. For the record I am a big fan of all three players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkshiresaint Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 I Don't mind Shaw going, just not to those gobsh1tes at Manure. Sick of them thinking they can do what they want. Spiderman IS the midfield in our team, along with Big Vic or Cork they can be the crux from which this team will get better & better. I fear losing him will be the start of us going backwards. Adam IS Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Lallana for me because he has attributes you just can't teach. People far less biased than us see him as one of the most creative players England have selected in years. Schneiderlin is second because, while he's a tremendous talent, that section of our midfield requires players with superb fitness levels, an ability to tackle, an ability to "read" play, a willingness to create pass options by running off the ball, and the ability to hit crisp, shorter (often one touch) passes. That skill set is demanding but there are far more of that type of player around than Lallana types. Moreover, those are "coach-able" skills, as the improvement in Wanyama since the start of the season demonstrates. Steven Davis is nowhere a level one talent, but he fits extremely well into our midfield and the way Pochettino wants us to play. I'd hate to see Schneiderlin go but he's replaceable. Luke is third - not because I don't rate him (he's a fabulous talent) but because I think we can replace him (albeit with somewhat of a downgrade) and use the money to strengthen where we desperately need to strengthen. We can emerge from the Summer as an all-round better squad without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Lallana would be the worst as he has a great history with the club and a player of his type and quality (plus attitude) is not replaceable. For me, Lallana leaving would signal the end of an era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 I will be equally annoyed if any go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Joint tie between Shaw and Lallana for me. Losing Shaw so young would hurt. Losing the captain Lallana would be a gut wrenching. I really want us to keep both and have a go at a higher finish & to do so we need both. I like Morgan a lot but cause there's actually already competition in his position his loss would be more bearable if painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Lallana first, then Morgan. 2 years ago Shaw wasn't even on my radar, those 2 have grown with the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 (edited) Honestly could care less if Shaw goes. Adam and Morgan on the other hand... Edited 6 May, 2014 by Pancake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 1) Lallana 2) Morgan 3) Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Lallana is the heart of the team. He is barely replaceable off the pitch but off it would be even harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Lallana would be the most difficult to replace. Spider - a loss although I think we could replace more easily. Shaw - I am almost resigned to losing anyway - £30m sweetens the pill somewhat though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 6 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Is 6 assists and 9 goals really all that irreplaceable on the pitch, and that's already an improvement on last season? I understand the whole him being the image of the club off the pitch, but does he really produce more then players like Michu, Coutinho etc? In terms of importance on the pitch I'd say Jay Rod is arguably more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Honestly could care less if Shaw goes. Adam and Morgan on the other hand... I could care less if it happens too. In fact I would go as far as to say there are few things I care about more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Is 6 assists and 9 goals really all that irreplaceable on the pitch, and that's already an improvement on last season? I understand the whole him being the image of the club off the pitch, but does he really produce more then players like Michu, Coutinho etc? In terms of importance on the pitch I'd say Jay Rod is arguably more important. Have you watched any games this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 6 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Have you watched any games this season? Remind me again how many goals we've scored since Jay Rod got injured, or how good Lallana was last season compared to the two players I just mentioned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Lallana has been different class this season. If you cannot see that then I'd give up if I was you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 6 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Lallana has been different class this season. If you cannot see that then I'd give up if I was you. So that's a "no I'm not going to answer because it ****es on my argument" then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 I don't know what last season has got to do with it? In response to the OP: 1. Lallana 2. Shaw 3. Morgan If that doesn't fit with what you think? Big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 6 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 6 May, 2014 I don't know what last season has got to do with it? In response to the OP: 1. Lallana 2. Shaw 3. Morgan If that doesn't fit with what you think? Big deal. Because most sane people don't judge a players quality over just one season. You were trying to be a sarcastic tw#t because I said he's replaceable then quickly went "herp derp who cares what you think" when I pointed out you're talking sh#t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Because most sane people don't judge a players quality over just one season. You were trying to be a sarcastic tw#t because I said he's replaceable then quickly went "herp derp who cares what you think" when I pointed out you're talking sh#t. Lol at you. You would rather we got rid of Lallana. Whoopdee do. I think that is the wrong choice. No need for the insults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Lallana has contributed far more than the goals and assists which end up in the stats. He is our most creative player, the only player who looks dangerous at all times in every game, the player who gets double marked and the captain. His defensive contribution is immense as well. If we're judging a player's quality over more than one season I'd have more question marks over Rodriguez than Lallana. This is ignoring all off-the-pitch issues, which make Adam by far the least replacable and most important player at our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Lol at you. You would rather we got rid of Lallana. Whoopdee do. I think that is the wrong choice. No need for the insults. Careful mate, he lifts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Careful mate, he lifts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 6 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 6 May, 2014 It seems to end up this way each time you post. I understand it can be frustrating when people question your flawed line of thought, but it's no reason to derail such a thought provoking thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Remind me again how many goals we've scored since Jay Rod got injured, or how good Lallana was last season compared to the two players I just mentioned? How about answering the question tho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 I suppose Shaw going is the lesser evil...but just as long as we get a decent % clause for an eventual sell-on.......don't get ourselves scre*ed like the Bale deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Next up, which way would you prefer to die: poison, hanging or electrocution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 7 May, 2014 Share Posted 7 May, 2014 If sacrificing Luke for £30 million meant we could keep Morgan and Adam, I'd drive him to Utd/Chelsea myself. That's a huge wedge of money for a kid with 1 3/4 seasons under his belt, crazy talented though he may be. Lallana is our creative output and has an understanding with JRod and Rickie that borderlines on spooky. Losing him would be massively gutting. Morgan too, one of the best midfielders in Europe last season, I'd be sad to see go, but the one jewel I don't want to see go is Lallana. Will he go? No I don't think he will. I'd be surprised if Morgan left too, although I can understand him wanting to try and get recognition for the French national team. I personally think after Sunday we may have seen the last of Shaw. What a great summer it would be if we could keep them all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 7 May, 2014 Share Posted 7 May, 2014 With all due respect, you are wrong. Admittedly Pastor seems to struggle with a lot, but I don't think the master of being wrong on just about everything over the last 10 years can go around pointing out other's faults. For me, losing Lallana would be a travesty. Without doubt the most important, pivotal player in our side. He is unique. Our captain. The new version of Le Tiss. Aiiiyaaaaaa, if he goes let's just give the **** up and watch rugby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 7 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 7 May, 2014 He's just one of those simpletons who can't see anything beyond black and white stats. The sort of dribbling moron who talks about win ratios. Hold on a second, are you mad? It's just you're sounding a tad mad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 7 May, 2014 Share Posted 7 May, 2014 Careful, you're sounding more like 4chan than reddit now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 7 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 7 May, 2014 Careful, you're sounding more like 4chan than reddit now Don't be so quick to judge, I was just about to offer to send him some bubblebath and scented candles to turn his frown upside down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketphilly Posted 7 May, 2014 Share Posted 7 May, 2014 Would be sad to see Lallana go to be sure. Morgan is one of the unsung hero types but replaceable. Luke is a different beast, one for the future but we get a bit misty eyed about how good he actually is I reckon. We can spend a small percentage of the cash and get an adequate replacement without the potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CylonKing Posted 7 May, 2014 Share Posted 7 May, 2014 I would be equally upset if we actually got rid of any of our 1st team talent in the summer. The club are making noises about keeping this squad together and for us to lose anyone of Adam, Luke, Morgan, Jack C, Victor, Steve D, Jay Rod etc, to me, would be just like the good old days of being a feeder club for the big 4. If we are serious about continuing to progress, we need to keep these players for ourselves and not to strengthen our rivals 1st teams. Obviously if someone came in with stupid money which meant we could strengthen then you have to accept that but I will only be really happy if we keep all of our actual 1st team players and build on this amazing season. I don't want us to stagnate in mid-table, I want to see us push on and the only way is to keep the most talented players. If not, the 'bigger' clubs will always be too far away to catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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