SO16_Saint Posted 5 May, 2014 Share Posted 5 May, 2014 As per the title, afterr MOTD Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 5 May, 2014 Share Posted 5 May, 2014 As per the title, afterr MOTD Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Cheers for the heads up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 5 May, 2014 Share Posted 5 May, 2014 Please post a summary for us exiles. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 5 May, 2014 Share Posted 5 May, 2014 PLEASE SAY NO ONE WILL EVER LEAVE EVER. PLEASE LES. PLEASE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 5 May, 2014 Share Posted 5 May, 2014 PLEASE SAY NO ONE WILL EVER LEAVE EVER. PLEASE LES. PLEASE. Even Osvaldo & Jonno Quick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 5 May, 2014 Share Posted 5 May, 2014 Even Osvaldo & Jonno Quick? hide the bodies in the away dressing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 5 May, 2014 Share Posted 5 May, 2014 I think it might be shown here soon....for all those without the channel http://www.castalba.tv/channel/15584 or not.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 May, 2014 Share Posted 5 May, 2014 Well he isn't on there as a pundit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 5 May, 2014 Share Posted 5 May, 2014 I don't give a flying **** who leaves Saints, as long as Les doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 5 May, 2014 Share Posted 5 May, 2014 Just stated again that no deals have been done. No discussions have taken place with any other clubs. Talks have been had with Pochettino and will continue after the season finished because Pochettino wanted to concentrate on remaining games first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 May, 2014 Share Posted 5 May, 2014 Just stated again that no deals have been done. No discussions have taken place with any other clubs. Talks have been had with Pochettino and will continue after the season finished because Pochettino wanted to concentrate on remaining games first. ...he also said ''That doesn't mean it won't happen, but nothing has happened as yet''. hmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_TOAST Posted 5 May, 2014 Share Posted 5 May, 2014 Was kinda funny viewing the skate manager sat next to Les talking about the bad times and then Les talking about how so great for us and our academy getting all the local talent etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 5 May, 2014 Share Posted 5 May, 2014 ...he also said ''That doesn't mean it won't happen, but nothing has happened as yet''. hmm. Yes heard it as that means someone could come in for our players. At the press conference he said if people do come in they will be told "no" or not for sale, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 5 May, 2014 Share Posted 5 May, 2014 "Mauricio made it clear. I bought it to the fore last week that as soon as that games out of the way on Sunday we will sit down and continue our discussions that we've been having. So it's not like we've been doing nothing about it, but we respected the fact that he wanted to focus on, he actually wanted to achieve these record points and focus on the games and nothing else" "This is one of the issues of being successful. It's not just Mauricio it's other coaches at the club, young players, players nowhere near the first team yet. Everyone's attracting attention. They want to know how we do it and can it rub off on them....We have to carry on what we're doing and not worry about it" "There are no deals done, there are no deals being discussed. Absolutely nothing, I can clearly say that. I'm not saying it's not going to happen, but at the moment nothing's been discussed" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 5 May, 2014 Share Posted 5 May, 2014 ...he also said ''That doesn't mean it won't happen, but nothing has happened as yet''. hmm. Hmm what? He is just saying he cannot predict the future - who can? Real Madrid might bid £80m for Lallana following a stellar World Cup - or they might not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Nothing new to see here...move on please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 At the press conference he said if people do come in they will be told "no" or not for sale, He said "probably" meaning they might also say yes. It's likely that we'll sell one player and that will be dragged up by the fans. Fact is, he didn't say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27293914 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Name a summer transfer window where no Saints player has departed? Of course we will lose players, how many and how much we can get is the key, along with retaining some continuity if at all possible and keeping the core as strong as possible. We wont be this strong next year thats for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Name a summer transfer window where no Saints player has departed? Of course we will lose players, how many and how much we can get is the key, along with retaining some continuity if at all possible and keeping the core as strong as possible. Since the takeover 5 years ago Saints have only sold one player they didn't want to leave who was a 1st choice. We wont be this strong next year thats for sure. Won't we? Everton sold their star player last summer and have improved as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Won't we? Everton sold their star player last summer and have improved as a result. And Spurs have of course gone from strength to strength this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 On a sort of related note, there is a podcast on the Coaching Manual website all about our academy, interviews with Jason Dodd, Terry Moore and Andy Marks, not listened to it myself yet though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Since the takeover 5 years ago Saints have only sold one player they didn't want to leave who was a 1st choice. Won't we? Everton sold their star player last summer and have improved as a result. Because we were big fish in a small pond with a lot of money, we did the buying from the other clubs now the shoe in on the other foot. They already had a strong core, do you want loans? Could we attract the like of Barry, Lukaku and Deulofeu? And Baines was their strongest player last season. If we sell Lallana who could we realitically buy to make our team stronger? The same goes for Shaw. Lovren. Schneiderlin. Rodriguez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 On a sort of related note, there is a podcast on the Coaching Manual website all about our academy, interviews with Jason Dodd, Terry Moore and Andy Marks, not listened to it myself yet though. Great find - will give it a listen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIGANSAINT Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Nothing the club or les can do if players want to leave. Personally listening to Adam and luke I think both could be off. This is the modern game .No loyalty. Just hope the money we get is invested into the team. And I think maurico will stay. Unless a major team gets interested and I don't think spurs are a big enough club for him to feck off for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 And Spurs have of course gone from strength to strength this season Text book example of how to mismanage spending £100m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 And Spurs have of course gone from strength to strength this season Well that was down to buying badly. Barry claimed a club automatically gets worse if it sells star players. It doesn't, just depends how well you replace them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Nothing new said, nothing new he could say. Just hope KL and the Board invest enough to keep the momentum from this season going into next. Maintaining the progress we've made over the last 4-5 years now becomes a real challenge - if Adam and Luke or anyone else for that matter are too lilly-livered to stand up to that challenge well we're best off without them in my opinion. Having said that, as I've said before, I think there's more to the spirit in the squad than meets the eye and it's by no means certain that anyone will leave unless they're released by Mopo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Well that was down to buying badly. Barry claimed a club automatically gets worse if it sells star players. It doesn't, just depends how well you replace them. How could we replace the players I have mentioned? Name some players we could buy that would not weaken the team if we sold those players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Nothing new said, nothing new he could say. Just hope KL and the Board invest enough to keep the momentum from this season going into next. Maintaining the progress we've made over the last 4-5 years now becomes a real challenge - if Adam and Luke or anyone else for that matter are too lilly-livered to stand up to that challenge well we're best off without them in my opinion. Having said that, as I've said before, I think there's more to the spirit in the squad than meets the eye and it's by no means certain that anyone will leave unless they're released by Mopo. So you would resent them going to Liverpool, Chelsea, United or City? Its a huge step up in their careers, come on lets be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 How could we replace the players I have mentioned? Name some players we could buy that would not weaken the team if we sold those players? And that, unfortunately, is the problem. There is no way if we sell any of our best players that we replace them with someone as good. It's not going to be a case of selling Shaw for £30m and signing his replacement for £30m. Selling players is just a bad idea for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 And that' date=' unfortunately, is the problem. There is no way if we sell any of our best players that we replace them with someone as good. It's not going to be a case of selling Shaw for £30m and signing his replacement for £30m. Selling players is just a bad idea for us.[/quote'] That is then point I have been making for the last 3-4 months, if we sell Lallana we will weaken, all that money will not be reinvested as it was what would be the point of selllng? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 That is then point I have been making for the last 3-4 months, if we sell Lallana we will weaken, all that money wil not be reinvested as it was what would be the point of selllng? What makes it worse is that bar Lovren and Davis (S) every single other outfield first team squad player right now is one we have developed as well (Wanyama is up for debate but I see some good progress in his game this season alone). So we don't even get the medium term benefit of that. Say we do scout well and sign a decent player, we've then got to develop them over a few years etc. Selling when we should be the ones to benefit from our hard work is just a terrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Well that was down to buying badly. Barry claimed a club automatically gets worse if it sells star players. It doesn't, just depends how well you replace them. Well yeah but then our two record signings have been garbage, and how about three star players, who's ever improved from that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 What makes it worse is that bar Lovren and Davis (S) every single other outfield first team squad player right now is one we have developed as well (Wanyama is up for debate but I see some good progress in his game this season alone). So we don't even get the medium term benefit of that. Say we do scout well and sign a decent player' date=' we've then got to develop them over a few years etc. Selling when we should be the ones to benefit from our hard work is just a terrible idea.[/quote'] Again I have been saying this for months, what is the real benefit (other than a drunken self appraisal of how far we have come down the local) of the academy if we sell, do we function to sell and it keeps us going? The truth I fear would hurt but at least the fans would know where they stand. If we sell this year it would be obvious to see we are a selling club and a stepping stone (we all should admit this) but it would be difficult for the club to argue against this when players are on long term contracts and get sold, they could be made to stay here but would they? I dont think for a second it could work or it would happen, its the way of the World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 (edited) Why haven't we signed 8 players yet damn it!! If we have not signed 8 players by monday of next week I will be absolutely furious. Edited 6 May, 2014 by Saint Billy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Have we ever had a really great player that we signed on from elsewhere and didn't develop in-house? Keegan maybe, Wayman from far back... not many other than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Have we ever had a really great player that we signed on from elsewhere and didn't develop in-house? Keegan maybe, Wayman from far back... not many other than that. Not to mention Alan Ball and many many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 (edited) Have we ever had a really great player that we signed on from elsewhere and didn't develop in-house? Keegan maybe, Wayman from far back... not many other than that. Why only a "maybe" for Keegan!? He was the reigning European player of the year when Saints signed him! Peter Shilton got 50 odd England caps whilst at Saints. Edited 6 May, 2014 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint George Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Nothing new said, nothing new he could say. Just hope KL and the Board invest enough to keep the momentum from this season going into next. Maintaining the progress we've made over the last 4-5 years now becomes a real challenge - if Adam and Luke or anyone else for that matter are too lilly-livered to stand up to that challenge well we're best off without them in my opinion. Having said that, as I've said before, I think there's more to the spirit in the squad than meets the eye and it's by no means certain that anyone will leave unless they're released by Mopo. I think that's the problem.....Lallana and Shaw are more than up for a challenge.....But that disappeared at Saints, with the fire, energy and ambition of the last CEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 ...................The truth I fear would hurt but at least the fans would know where they stand................ QUOTE] How do you know it's the truth? Do you have information that others on here don't have? If so any chance that you could share it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Shilton, Watson, Wright, O'Brien, Davies just to name a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Have we ever had a really great player that we signed on from elsewhere and didn't develop in-house? Keegan maybe, Wayman from far back... not many other than that. Mayuka was already one of the World's 100 Greatest Players when we signed him IIRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Text book example of how to mismanage spending £100m. looked at that just the other day ...perhaps only Eriksen is worth his fee....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 Have we ever had a really great player that we signed on from elsewhere and didn't develop in-house? Keegan maybe, Wayman from far back... not many other than that. ...think I'd have Ron Davies (R.I.P.) ...at the top of my list ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 ...think I'd have Ron Davies (R.I.P.) ...at the top of my list ..... Difficult to disagree, especially if he then spent the prime years of his career with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 give up then yeah? Or maybe keep our key players who all have about 4 years left on their contracts. Either or Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 6 May, 2014 Share Posted 6 May, 2014 you mean, in your opinion. jesus it's like you're actually retarded. No it's pretty obvious if we sell we will weaken our side, we are not selling them because we want to are we? We will sell them as well, don't deny yourself that that is a high % of what will happen. Capital for Jesus as well as it's a name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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