Saint-Beer Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 Found this article written only 4 months ago saying how happy he is, do we have reason to believe this has changed ? https://www.givemesport.com/414218-manchester-united-target-adam-lallana-wants-saints-stay# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 Ask Mark Clattenburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 There's no reason at all to assume it's changed. However, there's a chance it has done or will do over the summer. We'll have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 And this from when he signed a new contract a year ago: "I've been at the club since I was 12 and I can only see my future lying with Southampton FC," Lallana said. "I can't wait to work with the new management team and the lads to continue our progress in the Premier League. It was an easy decision for me with the direction the club is going in. "If someone was to say that I'd end my career playing for Southampton in the Premier League then I'd snap your hand off for it." http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/22112980 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 Found this article written only 4 months ago saying how happy he is, do we have reason to believe this has changed ? https://www.givemesport.com/414218-manchester-united-target-adam-lallana-wants-saints-stay# No Exactly that - we have no reason - just speculative sh*t from people whose job it is to sell papers, make commissions... So - no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoffthepost Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 I may be naive but, for what it's worth, my take on all the speculation is that the close knit bunch of players we have will lead other clubs on a merry dance in order that such clubs lose focus on strengthening with viable alternatives then come the start of the season we'll be in a position of strength when all of the players MP wants to retain are still with us, plus some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 Ask Mark Clattenburg. :lol: Very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersubpuckett Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 I'm sure he'll take a view on all this once he understands the new ambition of the club, which for me feels a little more modest than under nic, so if continued advancement and further recruitment of better players doesn't happen then i'm sure he'll go elsewhere. Wouldn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadpanmatt Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 I'm happy at my current job, but if someone came up to me and offered to double or treble my wages to move jobs, I'd have to seriously consider it. The same goes for footballers; they may love the club, but that doesn't mean a big job offer (with Champions League football) wouldn't tempt them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 I'm happy at my current job, but if someone came up to me and offered to double or treble my wages to move jobs, I'd have to seriously consider it. The same goes for footballers; they may love the club, but that doesn't mean a big job offer (with Champions League football) wouldn't tempt them. You don't think we could afford to give him a huge pay rise if we wanted to keep him? It doesn't seem out of the question for a top 8 team to pay 60/80k on their star players, if we expect to keep players like Shaw and Lallana without paying them that then it's the club that's being unreasonable not the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 (edited) I'm happy at my current job, but if someone came up to me and offered to double or treble my wages to move jobs, I'd have to seriously consider it. The same goes for footballers; they may love the club, but that doesn't mean a big job offer (with Champions League football) wouldn't tempt them. If you're on £20,000pa and someone offers you £60,000pa that would change your life. But if you're already on £1.8m pa what will actually improve as a result of triple that money? Moving way from friends, family, wife/girlfriend happy where they are, you like your teamates / manager. Obviously some players would go, especially the more ambitious ones, but its by no means as universal / automatic as many think. Edited 2 May, 2014 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 The speculation surrounding players leaving could probably all be settled by MoPo and the club announcing that he is staying and on an extended contract. Until that happens those players that are currently headlining the back pages of the red tops and a few other rags will continue to be non-committal. Whether huge pay rises would be needed to keep them is another thing but I would suggest giving MoPo a large-ish increase may negate OTT ones for the players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonraker Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 (edited) I'm happy at my current job, but if someone came up to me and offered to double or treble my wages to move jobs, I'd have to seriously consider it. The same goes for footballers; they may love the club, but that doesn't mean a big job offer (with Champions League football) wouldn't tempt them. This argument is getting a bit tired, the antidote to this argument is that significantly increasing normal peoples wages is genuinely life changing, £30 or £40k to £90k - £120k and it is easy and logical to understand why that most people would take it. The converse is that once you realise a certain income level, take an average prem footballer moving from £1.2m or so to £2.5 - £3m, the actual impact it has on thier lifestyle and financial choices is less noticeable. There is a theoretical income level know as the psychic salary, this refers to what change in income you would be prepared to accept to move jobs, this can be positive and negative, if you like your job, your colleagues, your bosses, your location and have been treated well then it will be positivie the amount of positivity is down to the individual, if on the other hand one or more of these areas really gets to you the positivity of your psychic salary will diminish and may well go negative. The exception that proves the rule are the greedy and selfish for whom money is everything, perhaps football has more than its fair share but it is not exclusively populated by them. Edited 2 May, 2014 by moonraker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 If you're on £20,000pa and someone offers you £60,000pa that would change your life. But if you're already on £1.8m pa what will actually improve as a result of triple that money? Moving way from friends, family, wife/girlfriend happy where they are, you like your teamates / manager. Obviously some players would go, especially the more ambitious ones, but its by no means as universal / automatic as many think. Excellent point ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 If you're on £20,000pa and someone offers you £60,000pa that would change your life. But if you're already on £1.8m pa what will actually improve as a result of triple that money? Moving way from friends, family, wife/girlfriend happy where they are, you like your teamates / manager. Obviously some players would go, especially the more ambitious ones, but its by no means as universal / automatic as many think. I'm with you on this. Some believe that players are like supermarket workers who will move jobs for an extra pound an hour, or that players somehow need the bright lights of the big city and can't be content with the more sedate style of life around here. A big factor with many of our academy players is that they have grown up together, many since the age of eight. I cannot think of another Saints team since I've been a regular where the team spirit is so good. That has to count for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadpanmatt Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 This argument is getting a bit tired, the antidote to this argument is that significantly increasing normal peoples wages is genuinely life changing, £30 or £40k to £90k - £120k and it is easy and logical to understand why that most people would take it. The converse is that once you realise a certain income level, take an average prem footballer moving from £1.2m or so to £2.5 - £3m, the actual impact it has on thier lifestyle and financial choices is less noticeable. There is a theoretical income level know as the psychic salary, this refers to what change in income you would be prepared to accept to move jobs, this can be positive and negative, if you like your job, your colleagues, your bosses, your location and have been treated well then it will be positivie the amount of positivity is down to the individual, if on the other hand one or more of these areas really gets to you the positivity of your psychic salary will diminish and may well go negative. The exception that proves the rule are the greedy and selfish for whom money is everything, perhaps football has more than its fair share but it is not exclusively populated by them. The idea that someone on £1million wouldn't be tempted by doubling their wages because it wouldn't impact their daily life much is a bit romanticised. Imagine how excited you'd be if you got offered a big money move to a huge club like Chelsea, Liverpool or Man Utd where you'd probably become a global star whilst also playing at the highest level. I don't think you could blame any player for taking that opportunity. I hope they both stay, but it is naive to think that loyalty counts for more than everything the big clubs can offer in modern football. My personal view is that it's pointless speculating anyway- in his book the Secret Footballer says that half of the transfer rumours you read are totally made up my agents or players who just want to stir things up a bit or negotiate better contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadpanmatt Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 I acknowledge that Man Utd will not be playing at the highest level next season. How could I forget this frankly fantastic detail?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 I'm with Deadpanmatt. For all those that say different, with the chance to treble your wages 99% of us would move and it really isn't that much different for footballers. Seriously, what you be saying to your son if they were Luke Shaw? Even if Katrina was prepared to match the wage offer from Utd (If its all true) then she couldn't because of the FFP. My son and the whole family is Saints mad, but if at 18 he had the chance to sign a 100k a week 5 year contract, plus a percentage of a 30 million pound transfer fee and play for one of the biggest clubs in the World, the advice would have to be to take it. Look at Jay Rod, these lads are one injury away from the unknown. Financial security for life. He would be mad to turn it down..... Which he won't if that really is the deal on the table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Beer Posted 2 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 2 May, 2014 I think happiness has a big part to play. Sure money is great, but it can't buy you happiness. I for one if in a good team, the star of the team and getting well paid would not be fussed about moving. I'm sure I'm not the only person to think this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 Cortese made all the players say positive stuff about him and the club when he was here, everyone knows that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 I reckon Poch will stay, and only Shaw will leave, but for a king's ransom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 Cortese made all the players say positive stuff about him and the club when he was here, everyone knows that. The media team posed the questions and made prompts under his regime. I doubt the players were forced into saying anything against their will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 I'm sure he'll take a view on all this once he understands the new ambition of the club, which for me feels a little more modest than under nic, so if continued advancement and further recruitment of better players doesn't happen then i'm sure he'll go elsewhere. Wouldn't you? hmmm I'm not so sure I could be a big fish in little pond (be captain, first name on the team sheet and arguably the best player in the team) or move to a bigger pond and risk not being first choice expect for league cup games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie@home Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 Adam obviously loves playing and, like MLT said in his interview, being first name on the team sheet means a lot. I'm sure he wouldn't be happy sat on the bench, even occasionally. On his salary he can do anything he wants already; he's already set up for life, as he seems a very sensible chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 hmmm I'm not so sure I could be a big fish in little pond (be captain, first name on the team sheet and arguably the best player in the team) or move to a bigger pond and risk not being first choice expect for league cup games. You don't rate him that much then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 I could get a job starting next week for nearly double my wages now but it would mean leaving my current job of ten years and working away from home Monday to Thursday , as tempted as I am money isn't everything I'm sure that's goes a long way to deciding a players options too ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 If money was not everything. Why are players like MLT only come around once a generation Why can't Lallana be happy playing for liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 2 May, 2014 Share Posted 2 May, 2014 hmmm I'm not so sure I could be a big fish in little pond (be captain, first name on the team sheet and arguably the best player in the team) or move to a bigger pond and risk not being first choice expect for league cup games. You don't rate him that much then Indeed. Plenty of people moan when supposed inferior players get picked for England "just because" they play for a big club. And complain that our world beaters are overlooked. But at the same time people on here have expressed the sentiment that Lallana wouldn't get game time if he went to a big club. How does that work, again? Is he good enough or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 3 May, 2014 Share Posted 3 May, 2014 Indeed. Plenty of people moan when supposed inferior players get picked for England "just because" they play for a big club. And complain that our world beaters are overlooked. But at the same time people on here have expressed the sentiment that Lallana wouldn't get game time if he went to a big club. How does that work, again? Is he good enough or not? Doesn't matter if I rate him it matters if the manager of which ever big club he goes to rates him Juan Mata at Chelsea or Adebayor at spurs comes to mind. Basically my point is some times it's better the devil you know. Adam could leave and be a massive success (which wouldn't surprise me one bit) but it is a risk moving club that might not work out well..............so I'm hoping Adams not a big risk taker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 3 May, 2014 Share Posted 3 May, 2014 I'm happy at my current job, but if someone came up to me and offered to double or treble my wages to move jobs, I'd have to seriously consider it. The same goes for footballers; they may love the club, but that doesn't mean a big job offer (with Champions League football) wouldn't tempt them. ..but fans love the loyalty of the Paine's, Channon's and MLT's.. who enjoy "playing" every week....without the need to earn huge salaries sitting on the bench.... and that endears them to fans far more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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