Batman Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 Farage stood for election as an MEP again yesterday. He has said he doesnt want to reform it, he wants to withdraw. Continuing to stand and draw the MEP's salary is just as hypocritical and unprincipled as any other party. He'd garner more respect if he withdrew as an MEP and spent the next year producing a credible manifesto with workable policies. or, he can keep putting his arguements across at the Euro parliament that garner him great attention home and abroad. Change from within Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 (edited) or, he can keep putting his arguements across at the Euro parliament that garner him great attention home and abroad. Change from within He doesn't want to change from within, that's the point. He wants out. I'm not sure I agree it's hypocritical to be a separatist MEP, but Farage staying in Britain would serve Ukip well. For all the attention he gets here, next to none of it is for the things he says or does in Strasbourg. The problem is that if he withdraws from the European Parliament he becomes a party leader without an elected position. For me, the most interesting thing about Ukip after Sunday is how they'll prepare for a general election campaign. Farage has admitted himself that they can't go into 2015 as the one-man band they are now, but I honestly wonder whether they've got the numbers to launch a national parliamentary campaign without giving a platform to the nutters. Edited 23 May, 2014 by DuncanRG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 It would be great if people stuck by their beliefs and voted UKIP next May. I'm all for shaking up the Londoncentric politics that we have trust upon us. I had to do a L2 English speaking & listening assessment for some students today and the subject was the elections Perhaps we need UKIP to do well, and similar parties across Europe, to jolt Brussels into changing the EU as most agree reform/overhaul is needed and soverign governments certainly aren't going to do and almost everyone of them said UKIP was about stopping foreigners coming to the UK. Some certainly do feel it's given credence to their, frankly, racist views and others simply haven't picked up on any other policy or message. anything. This^^ A lot of my work colleges are banging on about voting UKIP when you engage them in conversation as to why it's always the same " Cause they're going stop all those f ucking foreigners coming here ain't they?" literally that's it they haven't got a clue about any other policies that UKIP have nor do they seem to care. Just my experience, and I'll admit a lot of my work colleges aren't the most educated, but basically xenophobia (because to them all foreigners are dirty, lazy spongers stealing our jobs, clichéd I know) seems to be UKIPs main selling point to the people I work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 Farage stood for election as an MEP again yesterday. He has said he doesnt want to reform it, he wants to withdraw. Continuing to stand and draw the MEP's salary is just as hypocritical and unprincipled as any other party. He'd garner more respect if he withdrew as an MEP and spent the next year producing a credible manifesto with workable policies. The boy Clegg argues that if we wished to bring about change to the EU, the best policy is to be a member and attempt to bring about change from within. But you reckon that Farage ought to leave his position which gives him a perfect insight into the internal machinations of the Union, in case it makes him look a hypocrite. No doubt if he had not become an MEP, it would have been easy to have levelled the charge at him that he didn't know what he was talking about, in the same way that our MPs believe that it is only they who are in a position to know the ins and outs of whatever policy change they seek to implement and arrogantly assume that we plebs are not qualified to make up our own minds. In terms of their manifesto, where you correctly identify that they exist to campaign for the UK's exit from the EU, they are effectively a one issue party and if they achieved their aim, would then fade away gently. They have no more need to have credible policies than the Lib Dems did for years and can attempt like them to be a populist party with the expectation that they would never be elected. But who knows, UKIP might find themselves hodling the balance of power in a year's time like the Lib Dems did in the last election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 Hypo just votes UKIP cos he wants Cortese out of the country. This deserves a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Farage stood for election as an MEP again yesterday. He has said he doesnt want to reform it, he wants to withdraw. Continuing to stand and draw the MEP's salary is just as hypocritical and unprincipled as any other party. He'd garner more respect if he withdrew as an MEP and spent the next year producing a credible manifesto with workable policies. Should the SNP stand in Westminster elections? Should the lib/dumbs sit in an unelected house of lords? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Why did UKIPs share of the national vote drop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Why did UKIPs share of the national vote drop? How on earth can you judge the national share of the vote when there are areas of the country that didn't vote? The EU elections are nationwide , so we'll see what the national share of the vote is on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 How on earth can you judge the national share of the vote when there are areas of the country that didn't vote? The EU elections are nationwide , so we'll see what the national share of the vote is on Sunday. All the newspaper and broadcast media were/are using national percentage of the vote (FPTP) Thursday night, Friday etc. You were saying the media were correct yesterday when they were saying things you liked and wrong now? I'll assume they'll do similar on Sunday using PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 How on earth can you judge the national share of the vote when there are areas of the country that didn't vote? There are always areas of the country that don't vote in the locals. UKIP's share of the vote in the 2014 local voting was less than it's share in the 2013 voting - fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lord Duckhunter Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 What are you suggesting that if you agree with one analysis in the media you have to follow them blindly and agree with everything? Personally, I don't think you can judge a national share of the vote unless the whole nation votes. By your measure Alex salmond will be extremely worried as their national share of the vote hit rock bottom. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 What are you suggesting that if you agree with one analysis in the media you have to follow them blindly and agree with everything? Personally, I don't think you can judge a national share of the vote unless the whole nation votes. By your measure Alex salmond will be extremely worried as their national share of the vote hit rock bottom. So you are cherry picking then. Them nasty media types saying nasty things about the national share going down. Don't the know it's a People's Revolution! Oh, BTW, it's not my measure, it's the measure every single political dept/news outlet/political party uses, but hey, fill your boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 In local council elections you vote on the parties local government policies and also how the incumbent councillors have performed. In the EU elections, you vote on parties European policies and how their meps have done. In a general election, you vote on the MPs performance and also the parties national manifesto. To take one set of results and project the results for another election is comparing apples to pears, particularly when parts of the nation didn't even vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 What are you suggesting that if you agree with one analysis in the media you have to follow them blindly and agree with everything? Personally, I don't think you can judge a national share of the vote unless the whole nation votes. By your measure Alex salmond will be extremely worried as their national share of the vote hit rock bottom. Lol This is an alternative view of what actually happened on Thursday http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/local-election-results-2014-aav.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 This is an alternative view of what actually happened on Thursday http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/local-election-results-2014-aav.html Common sense analysis by a Yorkie - who'ld have believed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 that fantastic ukip performance in the local elections winning about 184 council elections out of about 23.000 plus with the usual low turn out ,i,m waiting for nigel farage to tell his ukippers to go out and prepare themselves for government lol. can,t believe the hype the media has given them but roll on the general election .so much for the political earth quake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 This is an alternative view of what actually happened on Thursday http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/local-election-results-2014-aav.htmlthats how anyone with a independent look of the situation would have read it without all the hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 This is an alternative view of what actually happened on Thursday http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/local-election-results-2014-aav.html Great read. Shame the Greens' decent performance has been totally ignored by the media wetting themselves over UKIP. Clearly a story there over the next 12 months of a protest vote at the other end of the spectrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Great read. Shame the Greens' decent performance has been totally ignored by the media wetting themselves over UKIP. Clearly a story there over the next 12 months of a protest vote at the other end of the spectrum. The Greens are actually in support of a referendum on Europe. We voted Green and will continue to do so except the GE when we will vote Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 thats how anyone with a independent look of the situation would have read it without all the hype. Don't talk nonsense man. From a standing start 90+ gains is a really good performance from a 4th party. What people are missing in some cases deliberately , is the long term implications. Ukip does not have to win seats to change the political weather, they just have to ensure that the lib/lab/con can lose them. They've already forced call me Dave to offer a referendum , something he desperately didn't want to do. Nigel is a fantastic political operator, who has worked out that ukip can not be a UK tea party, so is reaching out to white working class labour voters. Results in Sunderland and Rotherham are showing that this strategy could work. They are hoping to become the main opposition in areas that labour take for granted, remember labour thought they'd put the SNP in its box and took areas of Scotland for granted. If they can pressure labour into matching the referendum pledge that will be great. The other issue looming is the Scottish referendum. If the ballot paper had two choices; independent Scotland in the EU or UK out of the EU , I reckon salmond would win. Therefore, a great ukip result Sunday will ensure the SNP campaign on vote yes to stay in the EU. If Scotland goes, then it is game on...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 The Greens are actually in support of a referendum on Europe. We voted Green and will continue to do so except the GE when we will vote Labour. I voted Green in the Euros, mainly because I knew it would count, and it felt deliciously anti - UKIP (which is not the same as being pro-European). Like you I'll probably vote Lab at the GE, although since boundary changes I am in a solid Tory seat so won't make any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Well I'm happy. The socialist republic of Hammersmith and Fulham is reborn. Nothing to do with UKIP, who've been monumentally irrelevant in London despite the enormous amounts of money poured into them by shadowy and creepy ex-Tory donors. Absolutely everything to do with a deceitful Tory council colluding in the destruction in stages of a popular local hospital (Charing Cross). After all the anxiety in the borough about this, it's reassuring to be part of a functioning local democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Another good one from that fella: http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/73-ukip-voters-green-party.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Well I'm happy. The socialist republic of Hammersmith and Fulham is reborn. Nothing to do with UKIP, who've been monumentally irrelevant in London despite the enormous amounts of money poured into them by shadowy and creepy ex-Tory donors. Absolutely everything to do with a deceitful Tory council colluding in the destruction in stages of a popular local hospital (Charing Cross). After all the anxiety in the borough about this, it's reassuring to be part of a functioning local democracy. http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/rod-liddle/2014/05/rod-liddle-ive-had-it-with-the-insufferable-london-elite-have-you/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/local-elections/10852204/Local-elections-The-capital-fails-to-see-the-heartache-and-pain-beyond.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 I think the more people call UKIP and their supporters nutters the better. It simply does not work here in plymouth, the labour leader of the council took pictures of vandalism on UKIP signs and congratulated those who done it and actually encouraged others to do the same. of the 19 wards in plymouth, UKIP won 3 and came 2nd in all the others (some where by tiny margins) and that was from no where. as the final result was given, the labour leader went on a rant about all UKIP were nutters and got roundly boo'd by EVERYONE matters little in the great deal of things but was quite funny seeing the established councillors squirm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 36% turnout. Utterly gash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 National Front getting 25% of the vote in France to become the largest party. Sarkozy saying he wants to reform the Schengen (open borders) treaty and slim down the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 UKIP Communities spokeswoman put her put foot in it again. Talking about Franciois Hollande in France calling an emergency cabinet meeting tomorrow to respond to the rise of the far right and says Cameron needs to do ther same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/rod-liddle/2014/05/rod-liddle-ive-had-it-with-the-insufferable-london-elite-have-you/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/local-elections/10852204/Local-elections-The-capital-fails-to-see-the-heartache-and-pain-beyond.html What a weird response. The 'insufferable elite' were the working class voters in Hammersmith and Fulham who rebelled against a council determined to hand a local teaching hospital over to property developers? These were the same 'elite' Londoners who wanted to stop the council demolishing 700 homes occupied by working class tenants in order to replace them with £1m+ apartments? You ought to get out more. Go to King Street in Hammersmith, for example - the local High Street. The boom businesses there are pound shops and pawn shops - two of the latter have opened in just the last six months. Long-established working class communities are under enormous pressure in London, and many face extinction by bedroom tax developer land grabs, and the sheer escalating cost of living in a place where developers want poorer residents pushed the **** out of the way. These are your 'insufferable elites'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 That ridiculous women, or is it a bloke , who tried to stich Nigel up has been thrown out by her voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 What a weird response. The 'insufferable elite' were the working class voters in Hammersmith and Fulham who rebelled against a council determined to hand a local teaching hospital over to property developers? These were the same 'elite' Londoners who wanted to stop the council demolishing 700 homes occupied by working class tenants in order to replace them with £1m+ apartments? You ought to get out more. Go to King Street in Hammersmith, for example - the local High Street. The boom businesses there are pound shops and pawn shops - two of the latter have opened in just the last six months. Long-established working class communities are under enormous pressure in London, and many face extinction by bedroom tax developer land grabs, and the sheer escalating cost of living in a place where developers want poorer residents pushed the **** out of the way. These are your 'insufferable elites'? And what percentage of Hammersmith and Fulham's electorate are such people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 as the more extreme parties notch up bigger share of the votes the usual line of..."we hear the message and we are listening" will be trotted out by the Torys/Labour lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 as the more extreme parties notch up bigger share of the votes the usual line of..."we hear the message and we are listening" will be trotted out by the Torys/Labour lot On any questions Friday , Justine greening was parrotting that line, dimble's bro ( for once) laid into her. "So you're going to listen, learn the lessons and then keep the same policies". Just about sums the lib/lab/con up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 On any questions Friday , Justine greening was parrotting that line, dimble's bro ( for once) laid into her. "So you're going to listen, learn the lessons and then keep the same policies". Just about sums the lib/lab/con up. saw dianne abbot on telly today going on and on that UKIP candidates in the local do not know enough about the UK to be taken seriously. the conversation went to the Newark bi-election and when asked if she knew where in the country newark is, she had no idea and said she knew it was north of the M25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Lmfao @ the Kettering announcer. Dozy pillock couldn't even read the votes out, "oh, hang on, thats not the conservatives, I'll start again..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 (edited) UKIP cleaning up so far farage is in southampton Edited 25 May, 2014 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Ukip up 10% in Poole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 saw dianne abbot on telly today going on and on that UKIP candidates in the local do not know enough about the UK to be taken seriously. the conversation went to the Newark bi-election and when asked if she knew where in the country newark is, she had no idea and said she knew it was north of the M25. I saw that, she actually said "its outside the M25". I thought the Ukip guy ripped her apart. Wiggy Neil has a soft spot for her so went easy, it was a car crash. Did you hear her explanation for the result in Rotherham, its because labour candidates dont need to talk to people or knock on doors to get votes , unlike london. Talk about taking votes for granted, look where that got them in Scotland. Ukip winning in Millibands Doncaster turf and in Newark. Lol the London elite are going to be in full scale panic tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Ukip up 10% in Poole. What's the turn out, because I've been here 18 odd years and the polling station was the busiest I've seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 I think the more people call UKIP and their supporters nutters the better. It simply does not work here in plymouth, the labour leader of the council took pictures of vandalism on UKIP signs and congratulated those who done it and actually encouraged others to do the same. of the 19 wards in plymouth, UKIP won 3 and came 2nd in all the others (some where by tiny margins) and that was from no where. as the final result was given, the labour leader went on a rant about all UKIP were nutters and got roundly boo'd by EVERYONE matters little in the great deal of things but was quite funny seeing the established councillors squirm Good to see the South West elect a Green MEP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 (edited) Mental stuff going on in France. UKiP may not even have to win a seat in Westminster to have impact on this country Ukips rise could well assist in the deputy PM being forced out and bring an In/out of Europe not only a dead cert but bring it forward This will be the first time since 1906 that either Tory or labour have not topped a national poll UKiP even beat labour in Doncaster where milliband is the MP Edited 25 May, 2014 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 What's the turn out, because I've been here 18 odd years and the polling station was the busiest I've seen it. Think it was 37% (?) They said something about the Poole results including Gibraltar, but alcohol may have distorted my memory of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Result from the south east from Southampton. 2.3m votes cast Greens get one Lib demos get their only sea (so far) UKiP win again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Keith Taylor keeps his seat in the South East, Molly Scott Cato is elected in the South West and the Greens got more votes from the Lib Dems in the majority of the country, been a great night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 "The party of in" are doing well. Good move from Clegg to try and take on Nigel. Mind you I dont know whose happier they've managed 1 seat, Lib/dumbs or the lab/con as it means the most dishonest man in politics will cling on to his ministerial car. Old Clegg is worth a few votes for them. Looks like a great result for Nigel, although im sure the sophisticated and educated elite posters will be on tomorrow putting a different spin on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Dear o dear, the London metropolitan elite are so busy telling us plebs what to think and who to vote for, they've forgotten to get the basics right when actually counting the vote. #bananarepublic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Well, this is the result that was the point of the original thread and all the waffle about how some posters interpreted the Borough Council reults was pretty irellevant. As predicted, UKIP have delivered the kick to the nether regions of the three traditional parties that they fully deserved for breaking their promises to hold a referendum on our European membership these past several General Elections. There is no way that those parties can put any realistically favourable spin on the results. Labour came out less badly than the others, but must still be quaking in their boots regarding the penetration of UKIP in their traditional heartlands. The Conservatives came third for the first time in a national poll. The Lib Dems were pretty well anihilated, weren't they andysaint? The boy Clegg is under intense pressure and his crass stupidity in taking on Farage has now been proven. The Greens picked up some seats because they represented a protest vote alternative to all those who couldn't bring themselves to vote UKIP. With a General Election next year, these results will concentrate the main parties' minds wonderfully on what they promise regarding a referendum and what they will say about uncontrolled mass immigration from other EU member states. OK, accepting tbat many will vote along party lines in a General Election, UKIP should not do as well as here, but many floating voters will have been encouraged to accept that their protest votes will be effective in many seats and the Lib Dems are bound to suffer again, because they had been a vehicle for protest voters fed-up with the two main parties. It is gratifying also that UKIP's success has been mirrored to quite a significant extent by Eurosceptic parties in other member states and this is a clear signal to Brussels that issues such as their immigration policies, loss of national sovereignty and the financial instability produced by the Euro are issues that might see the whole edifice enventully fall apart unless they make substantial changes. UKIP says that they will not form alliances with these other groups because of their more extremist views, but patently they can still form a formidable voting block on issues where they hold common ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 The local and Euro elections are where the opposition traditionally win convincingly. UKIP's rise was predictable (they did come 2nd last time), they'll get a few MPs at the next election but they'll tail off long-term domestically at least. They've stolen the 'protest vote' and played the anti-establishment card to perfection. If in the unlikely scenario they get into any form of power however they'll go the way of the Lib Dems. All they do is support anything that is popular. I'll admit that I'd rather have the Chuckle Brothers running the country than Miliband & Balls but Labour were unconvincing at best. They should have been a solid 5 percentage points clear of the Tories but were only marginally ahead in both elections. For the Tories it went 'ok'. Nothing more, nothing less. UKIP have clearly stolen voters but they'll be pleased being so close to Labour. Green - Did pretty well but they are riding the crest of the anti-fracking vote at the moment. Lib Dems - Completely found out BNP - Just LOL. They managed to crash & burn even with a huge surge in extreme-right voting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 The local and Euro elections are where the opposition traditionally win convincingly. UKIP's rise was predictable (they did come 2nd last time), they'll get a few MPs at the next election but they'll tail off long-term domestically at least. They've stolen the 'protest vote' and played the anti-establishment card to perfection. If in the unlikely scenario they get into any form of power however they'll go the way of the Lib Dems. All they do is support anything that is popular. I'll admit that I'd rather have the Chuckle Brothers running the country than Miliband & Balls but Labour were unconvincing at best. They should have been a solid 5 percentage points clear of the Tories but were only marginally ahead in both elections. For the Tories it went 'ok'. Nothing more, nothing less. UKIP have clearly stolen voters but they'll be pleased being so close to Labour. Green - Did pretty well but they are riding the crest of the anti-fracking vote at the moment. Lib Dems - Completely found out BNP - Just LOL. They managed to crash & burn even with a huge surge in extreme-right voting What 'protest vote' have UKIP stolen and from whom? People have voted for them because they believe in and agree with their policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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