Viking Warrior Posted 3 May, 2014 Share Posted 3 May, 2014 I thought the clip above was offensive not because the n word was used ( when it's okay for a white person to use the n word clip). But I think he was stereo typing black people as being muggers and violent criminals He's not helping multiculturalism especially as his show was in Jo berg to what looked very much like a black African audience . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 3 May, 2014 Share Posted 3 May, 2014 I hope and expect that Jeremy Clarkson will not be sacked, because that would be an over-reaction. If everybody who might have said one word that many find offensive were to be sacked, we would all be out of a job. This kind of witch hunt does nobody any good. It's the latest in a long line of offensive, racist, homophobic or misogynistic epithets and comments Jeremy Clarkson has spouted whilst filming. I should also point out that you can't perform a witch-hunt on an individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 3 May, 2014 It's the latest in a long line of offensive, racist, homophobic or misogynistic epithets and comments Jeremy Clarkson has spouted whilst filming. I should also point out that you can't perform a witch-hunt on an individual. Not even if he weighs the same as a duck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bath Saint Posted 3 May, 2014 Share Posted 3 May, 2014 Not even if he weighs the same as a duck? Oh, in that case, it'd be a fair cop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 3 May, 2014 Oh, in that case, it'd be a fair cop. The celebrated Bath Saint, wise in the ways of both science and justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bath Saint Posted 3 May, 2014 Share Posted 3 May, 2014 The celebrated Bath Saint, wise in the ways of both science and justice. You can get stuffed if you think I'm going to pledge myself to your fool's errand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubby Posted 3 May, 2014 Share Posted 3 May, 2014 It's the latest in a long line of offensive, racist, homophobic or misogynistic epithets and comments Jeremy Clarkson has spouted whilst filming. I should also point out that you can't perform a witch-hunt on an individual. You can't really believe that Jeremy Clarkson is the only person to have got into trouble with the thought police for saying something "offensive, racist, homophobic or misogynistic "? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 3 May, 2014 Share Posted 3 May, 2014 1) People cannot seem to tell the difference between a pejorative comment, a flippant one and a rude one and therefore label everything as racist. 2) I was also taught when growing up, "sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me". 3) These people who are continually outraged and accuse everything and anything as racist, need to get out more. 4) Racism is a white man's disease, and only white people can be racist - apparently! Being coy about things and calling it the "N word" is utterly pathetic. We had people saying the "Y word" when talking about Spurs chanting about being Yids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 3 May, 2014 Share Posted 3 May, 2014 Don't like the bloke. Tries too hard to be a geezer. Not sure if he is racist or not, am sure that he's a complete c*nt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 4 May, 2014 Share Posted 4 May, 2014 Only ever see him on Top Gear Cant stand the Pillock says a lot that you all are defending him a total ***** Just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 4 May, 2014 Share Posted 4 May, 2014 Only ever see him on Top Gear Cant stand the Pillock says a lot that you all are defending him a total ***** Just my opinion But it's a daft opinion. Go back to the video evidence that is the cause of this (bogus) outrage and pay careful attention to the audio. You will notice that he mumbles, he makes a 'n' sound, but at no stage does Clarkson actually employ the racist term in question. Indeed, realising his mistake, Clarkson by all accounts went out of his way to ensure that this was not broadcast anyway. Therefore on the evidence, he behaved foolishly (behaving foolishly has of course been central to his success) but he cannot possibly be guilty of an real offence as I understand the term. Now he may well have been thinking about THAT racist word. He may even have caused offence by making others THINK about that word. However my view is that it's probably better that what George Orwell once called 'thoughtcrimes' should remain offences that exist only in fiction, rather than actually being enshrined into the common law. .................................................................... PS, Top Gear has clearly become a huge commercial success for the BBC and this programme boasts a worldwide audience that I dare say is measured in the hundreds of millions. However, a space alien reading this thread could me forgiven for thinking that well nigh everyone despises him. This odd situation reminds me somewhat of Maggie Thatcher - the records show that she won three General Elections, but nowadays no one admits to ever voting for her! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 4 May, 2014 Share Posted 4 May, 2014 But it's a daft opinion. Go back to the video evidence that is the cause of this (bogus) outrage and pay careful attention to the audio. You will notice that he mumbles, he makes a 'n' sound, but at no stage does Clarkson actually employ the racist term in question. Indeed, realising his mistake, Clarkson by all accounts went out of his way to ensure that this was not broadcast anyway. Therefore on the evidence, he behaved foolishly (behaving foolishly has of course been central to his success) but he cannot possibly be guilty of an real offence as I understand the term. Now he may well have been thinking about THAT racist word. He may even have caused offence by making others THINK about that word. However my view is that it's probably better that what George Orwell once called 'thoughtcrimes' should remain offences that exist only in fiction, rather than actually being enshrined into the common law. .................................................................... PS, Top Gear has clearly become a huge commercial success for the BBC and this programme boasts a worldwide audience that I dare say is measured in the hundreds of millions. However, a space alien reading this thread could me forgiven for thinking that well nigh everyone despises him. This odd situation reminds me somewhat of Maggie Thatcher - the records show that she won three General Elections, but nowadays no one admits to ever voting for her! Happily left the UK before the ***** became PM Ding Dong ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 4 May, 2014 Share Posted 4 May, 2014 Thank **** that the witch is gone ...........Ding Dong Sorry for you that had to live with her a PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 4 May, 2014 Share Posted 4 May, 2014 Lucky for you Mrs T was a white Tory. Had she been a black leftie, people would have taken offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 5 May, 2014 Share Posted 5 May, 2014 Thank **** that the witch is gone ...........Ding Dong Sorry for you that had to live with her a PM Yup - much better under Wilson and Callaghan!!! Strewth, some people have short/selective memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 5 May, 2014 Share Posted 5 May, 2014 Yup - much better under Wilson and Callaghan!!! Strewth, some people have short/selective memories. Some people weren't even there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 5 May, 2014 Share Posted 5 May, 2014 Yup - much better under Wilson and Callaghan!!! Strewth, some people have short/selective memories. We do. I was just about to post a derogatory comment about the 3-day week and petrol coupons. Just as well I checked first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 Slightly off topic, but I feel it is kind of related. An interesting twist at least http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-27360884 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 Slightly off topic, but I feel it is kind of related. An interesting twist at least http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-27360884 What a complete farce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 11 May, 2014 Share Posted 11 May, 2014 So do all dj's have to resign if the inadvertently play a Gary glitter song or cover version along with songs from that other depraved pop star who was sent to prison recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 19 May, 2014 Share Posted 19 May, 2014 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/jeremy-clarkson-brands-his-racism-critics-extremists-and-labels-them-the-liberal-lynch-mob-9395576.html?dkdkd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 19 May, 2014 Share Posted 19 May, 2014 How has this generated so much debate? It's on bar with the UKIP tool saying he'd not want to live next to a family of Bulgarians. Bed wetters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubby Posted 19 May, 2014 Share Posted 19 May, 2014 Perhaps because people who are not racists are being branded as racists on the flimsiest of evidence, and their jobs are being threatened for no good reason. Perhaps because some people want to silence anybody who sees things differently from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 28 July, 2014 Author Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Ofcom has ruled that Clarkson deliberately used a pejorative term to describe an East Asian man. http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jul/28/top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-racial-term-ofcom-bbc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Ofcom has ruled that Clarkson deliberately used a pejorative term to describe an East Asian man. http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jul/28/top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-racial-term-ofcom-bbc "Ofcom concluded that the word was capable of causing offence" They received two complaints. Calling me "a honkey" is capable of causing offence...but it wouldn't. I get more offended by being called "Dude" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 (edited) I agree with the above dude, complaining about clarkson is worthwhile in itself, no matter how trivial the offence, but this issue is just a slippery slope. Edited 28 July, 2014 by Bearsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 I agree with the above dude, complaining about clarkson is worthwhile in itself, no matter how trivial the offence, but this issue is just a slippery slope. I think I'm offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 tough shit, we have a two complaints minimum on offence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 I think I'm offended. You honky cvnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 You honky cvnt. I'm outraged by your use of the word "You". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 2 October, 2014 Author Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Sep 21 - Clarkson ordered not to cause diplomatic row while filming in Argentina. http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/jeremy-clarkson-ordered-not-cause-4301141 Oct 02 - Clarkson slammed for using car with apparent reference to Falklands in Argentina http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/jeremy-clarkson-slammed-again---4363560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Sep 21 - Clarkson ordered not to cause diplomatic row while filming in Argentina. http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/jeremy-clarkson-ordered-not-cause-4301141 Oct 02 - Clarkson slammed for using car with apparent reference to Falklands in Argentina http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/jeremy-clarkson-slammed-again---4363560 who cares what argentina think? they do not miss a trick to do this on a large scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Please fire him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 2 October, 2014 Author Share Posted 2 October, 2014 who cares what argentina think? The BBC, on Sep 21 evidently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Sep 21 - Clarkson ordered not to cause diplomatic row while filming in Argentina. http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/jeremy-clarkson-ordered-not-cause-4301141 Oct 02 - Clarkson slammed for using car with apparent reference to Falklands in Argentina http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/jeremy-clarkson-slammed-again---4363560 What's ur angle, pap? Have u got beef with clarkson, or beef with tabloid agenda against clarkson, or beef with argentinian beef or what? I wouldn't even know he was still on air if you didn't keep posting links bout him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Top Gear stopped being funny about 5 years ago and Clarkson has been annoying since forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 2 October, 2014 Author Share Posted 2 October, 2014 What's ur angle, pap? Have u got beef with clarkson, or beef with tabloid agenda against clarkson, or beef with argentinian beef or what? I wouldn't even know he was still on air if you didn't keep posting links bout him. It's a fair question, Bear. I started the thread after all. I am currently in the process of consuming a burger, so hopefully the beef will be loud and clear. I dislike the way Jeremy Clarkson deliberately courts controversy for publicity, and therefore the unending adulation of a social group that transcends all class boundaries. Thick Little Englanders and Conservatives. Look at those Top Gear audiences. If a meteor landed during filming the Young Conservatives would be finished. I also dislike idiots that fall for the ordinary bloke persona he likes to put on. Ooh, look at Jeremy. It looks like he's about to fúck that car. What an ordinary bloke! Ooh, there's Jeremy provocatively trying not to say "n**ger" while saying a nursery rhyme he doesn't have to say. Ah, good old Jezza - trivialising the murder of women (dirty women mind!) and tarring an entire profession. Salt of the earth. Clarkson isn't an ordinary bloke. He's extraordinarily talented at creating publicity by doing or setting out stuff he shouldn't. He pretends to be a relic of a bygone age that doesn't understand political correctness (pah, whatever that is), but has a canny habit of pushing exactly the right buttons just softly enough so he gets the publicity but is not immediately shít-canned. In some ways, you've got to have a bit of respect. Huge renumeration, gets to fly around the world and plays his fans like a cheap fiddle. But both he and his fans are fúckmuppets. That is my beef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 I like Clarkson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Top Gear is a tired formula but I like Clarkson because of the sad c*nts he annoys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 2 October, 2014 Author Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Top Gear is a tired formula but I like Clarkson because of the sad c*nts he annoys. Schadenfreude. The new happiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Top Gear is a tired formula but I like Clarkson because of the sad c*nts he annoys. Same reason I like the Tories. The more annoying the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Schadenfreude is the new happiness. It's just funny. You get the impression some people tune into his shows specifically to get offended by something he might say. His courting of controversy only exists because of saddos like this. Nothing he says is ever that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 2 October, 2014 Author Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Same reason I like the Tories. The more annoying the better. You should look into Heath's time on Jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 It's just funny. You get the impression some people tune into his shows specifically to get offended by something he might say. His courting of controversy only exists because of saddos like this. Nothing he says is ever that bad. Saddos? Hmmm I'm a massive fan of runny faeces. Why? Well because it annoys so many people. Yes great logic this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Top Gear is a tired formula but I like Clarkson because of the sad c*nts he annoys. I find the whole programme very puerile. Perhaps I'm getting old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 I don't think you are getting old Whitey (you are old). It is just that you have good taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Don't like the bloke. Tries too hard to be a geezer. Not sure if he is racist or not, am sure that he's a complete c*nt. This. Hammond too. I only have time for James May, but even he comes across as a twat on occasion, I think Jeremy's overbearing twatishness has rubbed off on him over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 As I licence payer I love Clarkson. Makes the BBC an absolute fortune in syndication revenue, many times more than his salary! I've met him a few times and he's a good laugh, really liked the bloke and he clearly hams it up just to annoy people that want to be annoyed. In the current PC obsessed world I find his approach refreshing, if you don't like it, think Top Gear was better years ago no problem, don't watch it. Fact is millions of people do enjoy it (or enjoy getting offended by it) and watch it for a bit of escapism. Oh, as for the sort of people that watch Top Gear... A colleague of mine when working at the Sunday Times was the Deputy Editor of the Magazine section for a few years before moving over to another section, in that role he flew over and interviewed the Delai Lama, half way through the interview the Delia Lama cut it short and informed Nick, incredibly politely, that he'd have to delay the rest of the interview as Top Gear was about to start and he never misses an episode via a satellite he has set up. Sue enough he watched the entire episode, laughing along with the show, then got back to the interview. One of the most surreal moments of his career! But hey, all Top Gear fans are young Tories and little Englanders aren't they? Ironically that's the sort of sweeping statement people lambast JC for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 I only watch the "specials" now and always find them good fun. Clarkson may act the t**t but he does make some decent TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 PAp you certainly do have a problem with clarkson. is it becuase he has a different political ideology to yours by any chance? Also read the Mirror story more closely Clarkson didnt buy the car etc etc and it has been used since 1991 with those number plates The Mirror can confirm that Top Gear bought the Porsche in August 2014. The car's numberplate is the original one which has been used on the car since 1991. Also Pap are you on the campaign group that considers Tom and Jerry as being racist by any chance Amazon has put a racism disclaimer on its series of “Tom and Jerry” cartoons. Critics say this is “empty-headed” and “PC madness.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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