Saints injuries and modern medical technology

[Viking Warrior]

I was reminiscing on my early days as a medic .and treating broken legs and torn meniscus. And the recovery time for such injuries was several months for broken legs and a minimum if 8 weeks post mennisectomy before you could contemplate doing any training . Nowadays a player can be back inside a couple if weeks from a torn meniscus

 

Then I thought about Dani Rodrigues and that bad ankle break which took ages to heal and he never really recovered to be the player we all thought he had the potential to be . I compare his injury to gars tons who was out for a very short period

 

I appreciate medical technology and treatment has advanced significantly . But my question is do you think it's the players super levels of fitness , diet etc and advance medical technology that has allowed the player to recover much quicker than a few decades ago or is it purely just medical technology and early diagnosis that has allowed thus to happen

 

In the 60 and 70 broken kegs seemed to occur quite frequently but then that was in the days of big dave Watson , Hugh fisher Jim Steele esq type players who took the man and not the ball

 

But then again I was raised as a boy when dubbin and leather balls and boots with either wooden or leather studs were the norm

[CB Saint]

Easier diagnosis through MRI etc, less invasive surgery and a better understanding of the healing process combined with better medically trained back room staff and better planned recuperation programmes.

 

things have moved on a lot more from the magic sponge and spray that I experienced when playing

[Whitey Grandad]

I saw this the other day about ACL reconstructions, I don't know if it has any relevance to our Jay.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2613883/Surgeons-finally-win-Battle-Wounded-Knee-Revolutionary-new-operation-repair-joint-uses-ligament-knew-existed-six-months-ago.html

[Dalek2003]

I hope Jay Rod makes a full recovery. One thing that makes a difference is the care that is taken immediately, moving the player very carefully off the pitch etc.

[Viking Warrior]

Dalek

 

Spot on.

 

I know decades ago more spinal injuries occured in vehicle accidents as peopled just pulled people out of cars as quickly as possible

but in the last ten years the emphasis is on C Spine support before moving.

and as you say the medics are on the feild and if they suspect something serious , they take their time , putting splints on before stretchering folk off. its the same at rugby internationals

 

Also its about time the FA etc brought out stiffer rules and fines against those players feigning injury.

 

A player who has a serious injury will basically lie there motionless not rolling about like most of the prima-donna's

 

It was something we were taught years ago when trying to triage patients whether on the sports field , in A&E and and in war zones

[martel]

I saw this the other day about ACL reconstructions, I don't know if it has any relevance to our Jay.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2613883/Surgeons-finally-win-Battle-Wounded-Knee-Revolutionary-new-operation-repair-joint-uses-ligament-knew-existed-six-months-ago.html

 

I read that article with interest, fancy finding a ligament they did not know about, on another note, has anyone heard anything about J-Rod? Has he had the surgery etc?

[Whitey Grandad]

I read that article with interest, fancy finding a ligament they did not know about, on another note, has anyone heard anything about J-Rod? Has he had the surgery etc?

 

From what little I understand it would seem that previous types of repair were just a basic patch-up.

[Saint Charlie]

I read that article with interest, fancy finding a ligament they did not know about, on another note, has anyone heard anything about J-Rod? Has he had the surgery etc?

 

He had the operation last week.

[Dalek2003]

Dalek

 

Spot on.

 

I know decades ago more spinal injuries occured in vehicle accidents as peopled just pulled people out of cars as quickly as possible

but in the last ten years the emphasis is on C Spine support before moving.

and as you say the medics are on the feild and if they suspect something serious , they take their time , putting splints on before stretchering folk off. its the same at rugby internationals

 

Also its about time the FA etc brought out stiffer rules and fines against those players feigning injury.

 

A player who has a serious injury will basically lie there motionless not rolling about like most of the prima-donna's

 

It was something we were taught years ago when trying to triage patients whether on the sports field , in A&E and and in war zones

 

Well, I have only taken part in Basic First Aid courses, but I once was told that if a person is screaming or rolling about then that is a better sign than if they stay still and are quiet, which fits what you say.

[Dalek2003]

He had the operation last week.

 

Hope for a FULL recovery for his sake and saints, we have missed him badly.

[Whitey Grandad]

Hope for a FULL recovery for his sake and saints, we have missed him badly.

 

Yes indeed. Can you imagine being a surgeon with the responsibility of repairing a multi-million pound athlete? I have the utmost admiration for them.

[Viking Warrior]

Dalek. ,The fact they are rolling about means they are breathing okay and no airway obstruction . If they have a Broken leg or serious trauma then you lie still as any movement will cause severe pain .

[martel]

He had the operation last week.

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Thanks for that Saint Charlie, hope he makes a speedy recovery, although speedy is probably not the case for this type of injury

[Turkish]

Shin splints and fractured metatarsals seem to be a thing of the past. What's the new fashionable injury to have?

[Whitey Grandad]

Shin splints and fractured metatarsals seem to be a thing of the past. What's the new fashionable injury to have?

 

I've always wanted a groin strain.

[bridge too far]

I remember years ago there was a young man who lived in my village (and who used to babysit for me) who captained England's U18s and signed, or was about to sign, for West Ham. He broke his leg and the most he ever achieved thereafter was to play for Wycombe Wanderers before they were in the FL.

 

Sad to think that such an injury would probably not have ruined his career had it happened today.

[Turkish]

I remember years ago there was a young man who lived in my village (and who used to babysit for me) who captained England's U18s and signed, or was about to sign, for West Ham. He broke his leg and the most he ever achieved thereafter was to play for Wycombe Wanderers before they were in the FL.

 

Sad to think that such an injury would probably not have ruined his career had it happened today.

 

Yet another hard luck story from BTF. If something's gone wrong in someone's life you can be sure she knows them.

[Smirking_Saint]

From what little I understand it would seem that previous types of repair were just a basic patch-up.

 

Had the surgery twice, I believe this 'new' ligament can repai itself unlike that of the ACL however the new surgery ensures greater stability and improved chances of success.

[Whitey Grandad]

Had the surgery twice, I believe this 'new' ligament can repai itself unlike that of the ACL however the new surgery ensures greater stability and improved chances of success.

 

Bloody 'ell. Was that both knees?

[Smirking_Saint]

Bloody 'ell. Was that both knees?

 

Same one, didnt give the knee enough attention first time round, played well overweight and hungover etc

 

 

The first pretty much ended my early coaching career and any semblance of a reasonable football career which Im trying to resurrect now

Edited 2 May, 2014 by Smirking_Saint