"Financial Difficulties"

[DuncanRG]

Maybe it would be better if Ralph did that but here we go

 

1) The Green Bay Packers are a footballing instituion in American Football.

2) One of the most famous sides.

3) Have won the Super Bowl 4 times.

4) Have some of the best fans in the Country.

5) Have over their history had some of the best players in the game.

6) Have sold out their stadium for years (I mean years).

7) Lambeau Field hold 80,000

8 ) Lambeau Field is a far far more attractive stadium to market.

 

Ralph made a lazy comparison as they are from a small provincial area like us but we are Worlds apart I can only hope Ralph does not compare Football with American Football again as they are very very different.

 

Duh. It's a marketing strategy, not a precise equivocation. Green Bay are likeable and a second team for a lot of fans. Southampton have played that role many times over the years and I'm sure plenty of British fans would choose us if they had to pick a second team. Cowboys or Patriots fans might have a soft spot for the Packers, and Americans who support Liverpool or Arsenal might have one for Saints. That's as far as the comparison needs to go for our purposes. Whether that status brings in much money for Green Bay, or would bring in much for us, I don't know. Krueger will have a better idea than anyone here.

Edited 30 April, 2014 by DuncanRG

[John Boy Saint]

2 Blogs John Boy.

Opticians for me!!

 

Hang on I am under 50 I could be a referee still....... Nope stupid idea: I know who my Father is!!

Edited 30 April, 2014 by John Boy Saint

[trousers]

My interpretation of the financial "difficulty" comment is that they were highlighting the funding gap created by our lack of commercial activity. Don't the new Financial Fair Play rules include commercial income in the equation that ultimately dictates how much a club can spend on players?

 

So, perhaps the "difficulty" is that they actually want to spend MORE on players than the rules will actually allow them to rather than it being a problem with the overall "debt" situation, especially given that its not really a large debt in the general scheme of things.

 

This would explain why cortese voted against the new FFP rules because he knew that his apparent lack of focus on the commercial side was about to bite him on the bum if the FFP rules came into play?

 

So its more about ratios rather than absolute amounts?

 

Dunno.... Just thinking out loud.

Edited 30 April, 2014 by trousers

[Batman]

dune is just giving us his in depth knowledge of the ins and outs of NFL dynamics.

Im sure he has first hand info as he expressly pointed out, he does not deal with "my mate" or "my neighbour" fed information

[Marsdinho]

So we rely on Sky and Players sales?

 

Of course we rely on it, only a few clubs dont.

 

Arguing with yourself, weird.

[Barry Sanchez]

Arguing with yourself, weird.

 

Are you OK? Not too sure a question in one post and a statement in another constitute an argument with myself.

[Barry Sanchez]

dune is just giving us his in depth knowledge of the ins and outs of NFL dynamics.

Im sure he has first hand info as he expressly pointed out, he does not deal with "my mate" or "my neighbour" fed information

 

Please stay please renew.

[Barry Sanchez]

Opticians for me!!

 

Hang on I am under 50 I could be a referee still....... Nope stupid idea: I know who my Father is!!

 

[Downthe36]

Baz, why the hell does it matter how reliant we are on Sky money? It's not going anywhere.

[Barry Sanchez]

Baz, why the hell does it matter how reliant we are on Sky money? It's not going anywhere.

 

I am the light that shines upon darkness,

 

I slay false hopes and holier than thou weapons,

 

I make excellent ice creams in the summer,

 

For I am Barry Sanchez

[70's Mike]

Duh. It's a marketing strategy, not a precise equivocation. Green Bay are likeable and a second team for a lot of fans. Southampton have played that role many times over the years and I'm sure plenty of British fans would choose us if they had to pick a second team. Cowboys or Patriots fans might have a soft spot for the Packers, and Americans who support Liverpool or Arsenal might have one for Saints. That's as far as the comparison needs to go for our purposes. Whether that status brings in much money for Green Bay, or would bring in much for us, I don't know. Krueger will have a better idea than anyone here.

Packers are owned by Season Ticket Holders I believe

[70's Mike]

Has anyone got any actual info or this just yet another dune hijacked thread?

 

i posted similar on page 1, a thread about nothing

[waggy]

FFS the 'red tops' are gonna have a field day when they read this one! Sports hack writing Thursday exclusive, "A reliable source from Saints (omit to mention Web Forum) has stated that the club is solely dependent on Rupert Murdoch handouts to stay afloat. FFP is not a concern to Saints. They are not equipped to manage debt as well as other more established PL clubs and their business model is weak. The majority of the fans have been brainwashed into believing that the current Board know what they are doing".

[Horley CTFC Saint]

Are we in any?

when the club quotes this, is it any wonder the expensive players are reported as about to be sold?

 

what 'difficulties' are there and if there are none, why are the club doing well in making sure we think there is??

The main difficulty is trying to convince other clubs we have no money and can't afford their asking price for Saints targets

[Puddings and Monkeys]

How the **** have we let this pathetic attempt at trolling/wumming get to 2 pages???

[trousers]

How the **** have we let this pathetic attempt at trolling/wumming get to 2 pages???

 

The messageboard administrator(s) and moderator(s) have previously stated that their approach is to let WUMs/trolls be 'self moderated' by other forum members via use of the ignore facility, or by simply not rising to the bait.

 

If the people that run and monitor the message board choose not to proactively curtail obvious WUMs/trolls then that is obviously their prerogative.

 

But don't forget the WUM/Troll mantra: "We're only expressing an alternative opinion guv"

 

IMO of course

[Miltonaggro]

Shareholders, wages, running costs etc etc Its not real and if you get relegated and dont come up you are screwed, a bit like last time.

 

We don't have shareholders...

 

Nothing like 'last time', not even ball-park...

[Ohio Saint]

The messageboard administrator(s) and moderator(s) have previously stated that their approach is to let WUMs/trolls be 'self moderated' by other forum members via use of the ignore facility, or by simply not rising to the bait.

 

If the people that run and monitor the message board choose not to proactively curtail obvious WUMs/trolls then that is obviously their prerogative.

 

But don't forget the WUM/Troll mantra: "We're only expressing an alternative opinion guv"

 

IMO of course

 

So, we have to troll the trolls? Yeah. That should work out fine.

[cellone]

Barry you claim not to insult people. Your use of 'laughable' and 'naive' was insulting!

 

Now apologies or leave.

[Toadhall Saint]

Far bigger clubs and Everton are run very well, Villa not so but bigger ships can weather the storm better.

 

Can you please please just bugger off on it then.

[Toadhall Saint]

I am the light that shines upon darkness,

 

I slay false hopes and holier than thou weapons,

 

I make excellent ice creams in the summer,

 

For I am Barry Sanchez

 

And are a ****.

[Bearsy]

i have to say that on this thread at least, barry is in the right. We will never win as many superbowls as Green Bay Packers

[Dark Munster]

It's a strange one. The only possible conclusions that I can draw as to why RK and HH say our financial situation is difficult, is that a) they're preparing fans for some player sales or b) they don't know what they're talking about. B) seems unlikely as Gareth Roberts is on board.

 

Perhaps there is a c) that I've missed.

c) The age-old trick of pleading poverty in an attempt to avoid being ripped off during the next transfer window.

[aintforever]

Or d) The financial situation is difficult.

[trousers]

c) The age-old trick of pleading poverty in an attempt to avoid being ripped off during the next transfer window.

 

This (possibly)

[egg]

The stuff on this thread/forum is laughable. We're fine. We're not reliant on TV money to clear the immediate debt. The £22m overspend on staplewood is manageable.

[cellone]

The stuff on this thread/forum is laughable. We're fine. We're not reliant on TV money to clear the immediate debt. The £22m overspend on staplewood is manageable.

 

In theory that could be paid for by the sale of one talented home grown player. I realise you would have to take in to consideration the cost of his keep, education, training and later his wages but I have no idea what the sum of that would be.

[eelpie]

It will only raise wages again, agents fees and transfers, what have we gained the supporter from Sky's money?

 

Well I've gained by not having to travel 140 miles both ways along the M3 when TV demanded that matches were changed to dates and times I could not make. While SFC gained the money I have paid for my ST this year.

[egg]

In theory that could be paid for by the sale of one talented home grown player. I realise you would have to take in to consideration the cost of his keep, education, training and later his wages but I have no idea what the sum of that would be.

 

We're not reliant on a sale either. It's covered with available resources.

[cellone]

I'm not saying we are. I was more wondering what the return would be on one of our THG players if sold.

[Asaint4ever]

Not even worried. Well i think I'm not :-(