S-Clarke Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Lampard? F*ck off. There for the experience more than anything, I imagine. Can't argue that as a player he has had an incredible amount of success winning things, so why not have him around the place! Doesn't mean he plays though...
shurlock Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 There for the experience more than anything, I imagine. Can't argue that as a player he has had an incredible amount of success winning things, so why not have him around the place! Doesn't mean he plays though... Where's it being reported? Surprised Cole isn't in there but great for us.
igsey Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 There for the experience more than anything, I imagine. Can't argue that as a player he has had an incredible amount of success winning things, so why not have him around the place! Doesn't mean he plays though... But why take him and only one RB?
Smirking_Saint Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 But why take him and only one RB? Smalling and Jones can play there TBF so I thought that would happen Lampard though ? Jesus christ
Saint_Tony Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Leaked to the press today, apparently. We look to have 3 in the squad. Joe Hart, Ben Foster, John Ruddy, Glen Johnson, Gary Cahill, Phil Jagielka, Chris Smalling, Phil Jones, Leighton Baines, Luke Shaw, Jordan Henderson, Frank Lampard, Steven Gerrard, Jack Wilshere, Ros Barkley, Adam Lallana, James Milner, Daniel Sturridge, Chamberlain, Sterling, Wayne Rooney, Danny Welbeck and Rickie Lambert That's near enough who I would take. Lampard is past it though, can't imagine he will play anyway. Defence looks very weak though, shame we don't have the same sort of quality at right back and centre back as we do left back.
S-Clarke Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Where's it being reported? Surprised Cole isn't in there but great for us. In some of the main tabloids today, will have to see I guess. But the fact that Roy has know it for a while and the fact that it's announced tomorrow....kind of possible there could be a leak.
Smirking_Saint Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Id of liked to see Stones instead of Lampard personally, well, actually Id rather have seen Cork but dont reckon he had a look in unfortunately
The Kraken Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Can see why Lampard is going, he's basically the Gerrard replacement. Apart from Henderson there aren't many other options at defensive midfield; Wilshere, Barkley, Lallana, Milner, Oxo and Sterling are all more attacking than defensive. Gerrard and Lampard have similarly changed their games to move into more of a sitting midfield position. It does show the lack of quality in reserve though that we still have to rely on both of them. Step forward Jack Cork, please. A spot in the Euro squad is surely a realistic target for him.
Saint Garrett Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Lampard is an appalling defensive midfielder. If he's going as an option at DM then that is ridiculous. Rather take Carrick.
Smirking_Saint Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Can see why Lampard is going, he's basically the Gerrard replacement. Apart from Henderson there aren't many other options at defensive midfield; Wilshere, Barkley, Lallana, Milner, Oxo and Sterling are all more attacking than defensive. Gerrard and Lampard have similarly changed their games to move into more of a sitting midfield position. It does show the lack of quality in reserve though that we still have to rely on both of them. Step forward Jack Cork, please. A spot in the Euro squad is surely a realistic target for him. My thinking really, the Lampard over Cork grates though, I normally try to be unbiased towards England squads but realistically Cork has played v well there all season, Lampards barely played. Logic to me is to get the guy in playing regularly. Let Cork learn from Gerrard, who else is there ? Gerrard/lamps surely wont make another squad.
Baird of the land Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 My thinking really, the Lampard over Cork grates though, I normally try to be unbiased towards England squads but realistically Cork has played v well there all season, Lampards barely played. Logic to me is to get the guy in playing regularly. Let Cork learn from Gerrard, who else is there ? Gerrard/lamps surely wont make another squad. That squad really misses a real ball winning midfielder and even if you accept Gerrard in that role the lack of cover is scary. Lampard ones confuses. He doesn't seem to be scoring goals anymore and he's never been particularly good defensively, so why take him other than he'll be a good tourist. Wilshere also grates on me, someone who gets in due to their name despite utterly mediocre performances over last couple of years domestically and internationally.
SO16_Saint Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Now let the world cup build up begin. Im going to go for: Shaw Lallana Lambert And Clyne on the reserve list. Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk
farawaysaint Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Right, if Glen Johnson goes ahead of Clyne based on this season it is an utter, inexplicable tragedy.
Baird of the land Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Hoping the 3 get in the 23. Rickie scoring again in front of Roy certainly must have helped whilst Carroll did nothing. Would have liked Cork in the squad. Maybe for the best since Saints are being so poor at dealing with his contract situation though.
Smirking_Saint Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Wilsheres a good player on the ball, intelligent, busy, technically good. It does show the lack of any real quality for England though as he isnt anywhere near World Class IMO, partly due to injury worries. Teams dont tend to play with an actual ball winner these days. Saints do I suppose, but generally you win the ball more through interceptions etc these days rather than tackles.
Saint_Ash Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Right, if Glen Johnson goes ahead of Clyne based on this season it is an utter, inexplicable tragedy. I missed the part this season when we finished above Liverpool to be champions
igsey Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Adam and Rickie are dead certs, Luke less so but I think he'll be there ahead of Cole (rightly so). I wouldn't be surprised to see Cork or Clyne in the seven reserve players really.
farawaysaint Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 I missed the part this season when we finished above Liverpool to be champions He's done his level best to ensure that Liverpool don't finish top to be fair.
SNSUN Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Wonder if Carroll will be in the 30. Damn well shouldn't be. Think Defoe might be though. Sturridge, Rooney, Welbeck and Lambert will be the 4. Defoe burned his bridges when he went to Canada IMO. If Hodgson takes 5 strikers then perhaps Carroll may get in but with Sterling, Lallana and Barkley behind the strikers I think it's unlikely he'll take 5. I think Lambert has done enough. Defence is where England will suffer this year. Especially at centre back. I'd almost rather Clyne and Shaw didn't become the fall guys for a shoddy defensive performance, if that's indeed what happens. Nonetheless I'll be proud of any Saint that makes it to the World Cup. Which is why I'd rather we hang on to Lallana and Shaw until at least the conclusion of the tournament.
Saint Garrett Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 (edited) We do need a solid defensive CM whose job it is to just boss it in front of the back 4. All defences will leak goals if there isn't enough protection in front of them! On a side note, have you seen a worse RB this season than Smalling?! Truly incompetent. Embarrassing he's one of the top 8 English defenders. Edited 11 May, 2014 by Saint Garrett
Saint_Tony Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 The problem is that Man Utd players have always been called up to England squads, regardless of ability (Smalling, Cleverley etc). In a way it's a little unfair on them as it makes them think they've made it already
Minty Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 On a side note, have you seen a worse RB this season than Smalling?! Truly incompetent. Embarrassing he's one of the top 8 English defenders. I have to be honest, I would rather take Chambers to the WC, let alone Clyne, over Smalling based on todays evidence. I realise that was just one game, but for me basics like their composure and positioning should be consistent in an potential International player, and I saw nothing in him today to suggest that he was better than either of our two.
John Boy Saint Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 The problem is that Man Utd players have always been called up to England squads, regardless of ability (Smalling, Cleverley etc). In a way it's a little unfair on them as it makes them think they've made it already Well their fans gave Roy Carte Blanche not to pick a single Manure player.
saint_jas Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Lambert, Shaw, Lallana definites. Sneaky suspicion Clyne will get in, and would love Cork to also be there...
david in sweden Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 By tomorrow afternoon we'll all be out of our misery....when we hear Roy's verdict.....then I suppose we'll have another thread started by people who claim to have guessed 21, 22 or 23 correct. ......then they'll be 6-8 weeks of people's opinions about WHY Roy is wrong to take ..." so-and-so" and not A.N.OTHER..... ......followed by the one after we exit the competition .....explaining why Roy got it wrong. BORING !...roll on August !
Saint Garrett Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Ashley Cole has been told he's not going. Luke's off to Brazil!!
Baird of the land Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Still worried it's going to be le tiss all over again as I rage over how lambert has been left out.
S-Clarke Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Ashley Cole has been told he's not going. Luke's off to Brazil!! Where did that come from? Does seem that the leaked squad from earlier is the squad.
LGTL Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Cole refusing the 7 back up places confirms what a complete **** he is.
TwoPints Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Where did that come from? Does seem that the leaked squad from earlier is the squad. Ralph did seem to let slip earlier that 3 Saints players were going.
teacher Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Leaked to the press today, apparently. We look to have 3 in the squad. Joe Hart, Ben Foster, John Ruddy, Glen Johnson, Gary Cahill, Phil Jagielka, Chris Smalling, Phil Jones, Leighton Baines, Luke Shaw, Jordan Henderson, Frank Lampard, Steven Gerrard, Jack Wilshere, Ros Barkley, Adam Lallana, James Milner, Daniel Sturridge, Chamberlain, Sterling, Wayne Rooney, Danny Welbeck and Rickie Lambert If this is the case then that's 3 academy graduates in the squad!
SO16_Saint Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 If this is the case then that's 3 academy graduates in the squad! You sure? Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk
Baird of the land Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Cole refusing the 7 back up places confirms what a complete **** he is. Shows what a good decision it is likely to be to leave him behind. If he won't go on standby how would he be at playing second fiddle to baines on tour.
S-Clarke Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 You sure? Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk Chambo, Adam, Shaw...
SO16_Saint Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Chambo, Adam, Shaw... Ah....I read that as Shaw, Ads and Lambo. Long day! Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk
S-Clarke Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Chelsea left-back Ashley Cole has been left out of England's World Cup squad and will not be on their standby list. Southampton youngster Luke Shaw, 18, will be included in the squad. Confirmed. Well played Shaw, wonder if he'll get any minutes? Baines is a pretty reliable number to start with. (and to be fair, we may only have 3 games!!)
TwoPints Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Ah....I read that as Shaw, Ads and Lambo. Long day! Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Me too
Minty Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Just for a minute - imagine being 18 years old and told you are going to a World Cup to represent your country. That would freak me out. Congratulations Luke, and indeed everyone at SFC who got him there!
S-Clarke Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 already a thread on this, but it's pretty obvious AL is going.
igsey Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Wow, congratulations to Luke. He's a year younger than me, he's off to play football for his country in the biggest tournament in the world. I'm starting work in Sainsbury's in a month.
igsey Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Ahhh the post-Ashley Cole era begins! Fantastic. Just need to ditch Gerrard and Lampard now and the national team can really begin to move on. Although I fear Hodgson will buy into this Gerrard is the new Pirlo crap and keep playing him for years to come. He'll probably grow a beard to promote the myth. Personally I'd love to see an England side attack those pretty easy qualifiers with Lallana, Barkley, Walcott, Chamberlain and Sturridge tearing things up. So much pace and talent there. Could add Wilshere too if he could stay fit for once. I'm looking forward to Euro 2016! World Cup, not so much for England.
shurlock Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Ahhh the post-Ashley Cole era begins! Fantastic. Just need to ditch Gerrard and Lampard now and the national team can really begin to move on. Although I fear Hodgson will buy into this Gerrard is the new Pirlo crap and keep playing him for years to come. He'll probably grow a beard to promote the myth. Personally I'd love to see an England side attack those pretty easy qualifiers with Lallana, Barkley, Walcott, Chamberlain and Sturridge tearing things up. So much pace and talent there. Could add Wilshere too if he could stay fit for once.
LGTL Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Cole has confirmed on Twitter he has been left out and has retired.
bpsaint Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 @TheRealAC3: #Baines and #shaw are great players, proved this season, and are the future of this country, it was a pleasure to get #107 caps #eng #
Sour Mash Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Cole refusing the 7 back up places confirms what a complete **** he is. Yeah because we all know in detail what decisions have made?
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