alpine_saint Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 They've got nowhere with the Lallana and Shaw to Manyoo story, so they make this piece of sh*t up : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2615365/Adam-Lallana-lift-Brendan-Rodgers-Saints-star-ready-snub-Man-United-Liverpool-move.html 15m is an utter insult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 You've heard the one about the scouser that popped into the paper shop on the way to work on a quiet Tuesday morning, and couldn't decide what paper to buy, haven't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 A new low in the level of gibberish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 The mirror is as bad. Lallana to Liverpool and MoPo to Spurs are in today's paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 They should revisit stories after say six months and if a journalist writes a certain percentage of stories that are crap they should get the sack. A form of performance related pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 They should revisit stories after say six months and if a journalist writes a certain percentage of stories that are crap they should get the sack. A form of performance related pay. We should do that on here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 The issue was they got a lot of stories and access to Saints when Cortese was there. Their remit is to unsettle now Cortese is no longer drip feeding them info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 Luke Shaw 'is worried that he might miss the boat'. Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 I would not buy the Mail in any circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 I'm sure most of the newspapers pretty much eat out of the hands of the bigger sides, even to the extent of helping them to unsettle their targets in return for an exclusive at some point in the future. I can see Man Utd asking for assistance in unsettling players they've identified in return for exclusive rights next time Rooney has a dump or Liverpool the same the next time Suarez feels hungry on a football pitch. It's the way of the world and, if we do continue to progress as little Ol' Southampton, something we'll have to get used to until we can demonstrate we can fight off the insane bids which come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 The writer of this piece appears to be adhering to the classic tabloid football transfer reporting principle that if you throw enough sh!t, eventually some of it will stick. If Adam Lallana goes to Liverpool for £15m this summer, I will eat my own sh!t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 I am amazed that any of you lot take this seriously..... For a club like us, it only takes a player to tie his laces in under three seconds for him to be linked with a big move, cannot why this surprises and annoys some of you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 Transfer stories always have been and always will be the same, a boat load of sensationalisation to what will have possibly been a passing comment. I try to take any transfer rumours with a massive pinch of salt be it positive or negative. The written media tends to whore itself out to whomever is passing it titbits however so no surprise we have seen more negative now Cortese isnt using them as a PR spin. Whilst I very much hope otherwise though Im not ruling out a situation within which we could lose MoPo, Lallana and Shaw. We may have ambition (will see how much soon) but we dont have the sway financial or otherwise of the likes of Liverpool etc Still, as I suspected, it appears to keep our better players the staff (playing) want to see an intention to match their ambition. If we dont spend to progress I wouldnt blame them for leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 Neil Ashton was Cortese's best journo friend. Is Cortese bored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 15 mil? Ha ha ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 This is the same as every season, the only difference is that we are the centre of attention for once and we don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 Matches the quality, insight and accuracy of their main articles so at least its consisent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 (edited) Edited 29 April, 2014 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 Interesting if true but hardly surprising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 29 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 29 April, 2014 Yes, that would add up. Just goes to show there is some merit in the old saying "keep your friends close, your enemies even closer..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 They've got nowhere with the Lallana and Shaw to Manyoo story, so they make this piece of sh*t up : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2615365/Adam-Lallana-lift-Brendan-Rodgers-Saints-star-ready-snub-Man-United-Liverpool-move.html 15m is an utter insult. I don't know Alpine, I wonder the same daily atm to be honest. They clearly seem to have an axe to grind and ignore any interview or comment with our players dismissing a move. They then print a quoteless story saying that so and so is moving for "x" derogatory amount. The city should arrange a boycott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 In fact if you look at betting odds Liverpool have been favourites to sign Lallana for a fair while now, odds are pretty short as well. Why that is I couldn't say, they must have had some money dobbed on it but it's nothing new. They're CL bound and they're not that strong in his position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 I don't know Alpine, I wonder the same daily atm to be honest. They clearly seem to have an axe to grind and ignore any interview or comment with our players dismissing a move. They then print a quoteless story saying that so and so is moving for "x" derogatory amount. The city should arrange a boycott The world should boycott the Daily Mail, it's a disgusting rag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourne Valley Saint Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 The Times printed an article today written by Oliver Kay suggesting that Lallana would be tempted by a move to Liverpool as they play his style of football with a good nucleus of English players. Does he not have that where he currently plays!!??? Turn back a page and there is Matt Dickinson advocating that Roy Hodgson should take Ashley Cole to Brazil ahead of Luke Shaw. Never mind that the players that Shaw plays against week in week out voted him as the best left back in the Premiership this season! A couple of weeks ago Oliver Kay gave his list of the top 5 achieving managers in the Premiership - not a mention of MOPO (I did send Kay a tweet and he replied saying that MOPO was 6th!!) Surprised that Moyes didn't make the top 5! I expect that dear old Gus would have made the top 5 after their scintillating season if he'd waited a couple of weeks before publishing! You've got to wonder at some of these journalists and papers. Saints have barely got a mention in The Times all season but now come the end of the season when the transfer speculation starts, the only reporting is on the negative aspect of losing our best players (and possibly our manager to a team 2 places ahead of us!!) to the teams that they drool over week in and week out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 Saints have barely got a mention in The Times all season but now come the end of the season when the transfer speculation starts, the only reporting is on the negative aspect of losing our best players (and possibly our manager to a team 2 places ahead of us!!) to the teams that they drool over week in and week out. It is strange, that having been through one of the best seasons for a long time, my love of football is fast dwindling. If it carries on at this rate, I am wondering whether I'll even get to the stage of bothering to renew the season ticket. I probably will as my old man likes it to fill his days. The press are, I think, one of the reasons. The arrogance of the bigger clubs, or rather it is just reality, who act as they want and the sycophancy of journalists reinforcing it is very unattractive and very unappealing. They buy into the PL package and tow the line, so that they can collect any scraps that are thrown to them. I guess that at least we don't (yet) have a club like Newcastle, who seem in absolute meltdown as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 Why should we get a mention? We will finish 8th, and aren't involved in a relegation battle or a challenge to qualify for europe or win a title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 (edited) I guess that at least we don't (yet) have a club like Newcastle, who seem in absolute meltdown as usual. In fact Newcastle have taught us all a lesson this season, that being that you need to be careful who you sell because some players are very difficult to replace. In the 20 games in which Cabaye participated they obtained 34 points, in the other 16 so far just 12. Edited 29 April, 2014 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 In response to the thread title - It's poorly written, poorly researched, fuelled solely by fostering fear, hatred and suspicion, racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic, contradictory, pseudoscientific, promotes celebrity bullsh1t, ignorance and gets into the mostly empty heads of a vast readership. STOP READING IT ALPINE. Tory. You forgot Tory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 Daily Mail Watch - this should answer your question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 Does anyone recall when Strachan was here and the Leeds Managers job was vacant, back then it was still considered a top job in the English footballing World. Strachan had us putting "better" teams out joint on a regular basis and his stock was very high. Based on him having played for them to the media it was a perfect fit, it was probably in the days of Saintsforever and the thread was a frenzy with just about every member online refreshing by the second then someone posted the Daily Mail morning back page up with the Exclusive: Strachan to be named as Leeds manager tomorrow, opening line: the Leeds board will reveal Gordon Strachan as their new manager during a press conference at midday tomorrow (along those lines). As you can imagine the place went into meltdown even the server crashed under the weight of refreshing fingers. As we all know it turned out to be cobblers......... It's going to be a very very very long summer with all of this clap-trap especially between the end of the season and the World Cup then from when England get knocked out until the 31st August. Best buckle up and stick them all on ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 They should revisit stories after say six months and if a journalist writes a certain percentage of stories that are crap they should get the sack. A form of performance related pay. You would soon run out of "newspapers" then as they would lose all their "journalists" pretty fast. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 I'm sure boyhood Everton fan Adam Lallana dreams of playing for Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 I'm sure boyhood Everton fan Adam Lallana dreams of playing for Liverpool. Won't make a bit of difference to a pro-footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 Been saying this for the last month, the only thing is it proves negative news or perceived is written off. Rule number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 Shaw "preparing" for a move to Old Trafford. What bolox, is he already packing his stuff up, and booking the removal men? Reading up on Man U history? **** off Mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 Shaw "preparing" for a move to Old Trafford. What bolox, is he already packing his stuff up, and booking the removal men? Reading up on Man U history? **** off Mail. Grrrr!! Go get em Tiger!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 Shaw "preparing" for a move to Old Trafford. What bolox, is he already packing his stuff up, and booking the removal men? Reading up on Man U history? **** off Mail. You dont think he will go in the summer? Or Lallana? Pochettino? I do as a person who likes a flutter the odds are against them staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 You dont think he will go in the summer? Or Lallana? Pochettino? I do as a person who likes a flutter the odds are against them staying. I wouldn't be surprised, but would be dismayed to see them all go. I was railing against the 'journalese'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 They should revisit stories after say six months and if a journalist writes a certain percentage of stories that are crap they should get the sack. A form of performance related pay. The only performance a Newspaper is interested in is number of copies sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 The world should boycott the Daily Mail, it's a disgusting rag Don't tell Trousers it is his paper of choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 The writer of this piece appears to be adhering to the classic tabloid football transfer reporting principle that if you throw enough sh!t, eventually some of it will stick. If Adam Lallana goes to Liverpool for £15m this summer, I will eat my own sh!t.[/QUOTE] I'm guessing you don't know about the 15 million Transfer Fee Cap he had written into his last contract Only joking ..... I hope .... for all of our sakes, especially you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 You've heard the one about the scouser that popped into the paper shop on the way to work on a quiet Tuesday morning, and couldn't decide what paper to buy, haven't you? You were doing ok up to that bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 As old Rene Descartes said: "I think therefore I am not a Daily Mail reader" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 (edited) The only performance a Newspaper is interested in is number of copies sold. This is true. I don't know why people get so wound up about this...it been all about circulation figures and website hits for a long time now. Performance pay for journalist based on page hits on the rag's website doesn't encourage factual reporting. When there's no news there's no pay so just make up a few nice little headlines and write some **** that flies in the face of what other papers are saying. It's no point repeating what others are writing...add a little competitive spice...was going to ManU, now Liverpool in the driving seat...that should do it. Throw in a few inaccuracies to get the punters slagging you off in the comments columns, arguing with others and there you have it...a nice little bonus in you pay packet. Edited 29 April, 2014 by lifeintheslowlane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 You dont think he will go in the summer? Or Lallana? Pochettino? I do as a person who likes a flutter the odds are against them staying. Dune used to like a flutter. He would start endless threads about his bets in the lounge (or was it TMS?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Codger Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 Here's a little something for the reporter to mull over. Saints sold a 17 year old who hadn't even played in the Championship, let alone the Premier League, to Arsenal for a fee reported to be £15m. What do you think Saints would expect for a proven Premier League player, nominated as Player of the Year and regarded by most as one of the hot properties of 2014? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 Daily Mail Watch - this should answer your question That forum looks weird, dull and full of people who have too much time on their hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 I remember Peter Schmeichel putting in his book that the top footballers are always having Agents ringing them trying say that they represent xyz club and that they can secure you £xxx K a week. I'm sure that still goes on and it's quite possibly these wanttobe Agents who feed stories to the journos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 Here's a little something for the reporter to mull over. Saints sold a 17 year old who hadn't even played in the Championship, let alone the Premier League, to Arsenal for a fee reported to be £15m. What do you think Saints would expect for a proven Premier League player, nominated as Player of the Year and regarded by most as one of the hot properties of 2014? £25 Million and he will be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 29 April, 2014 Share Posted 29 April, 2014 We should do that on here too. I suggested that, on a Lawro thread. We should ahve a sticky for all of the paper talk, then laugh at them after 6 months when it proves to be crap. Utter, utter churnalism at it's worst, with just speculative dribble dragged out and then re-reported in all the other media over the next few days so it seems that'if it is in all the papers it must be true'. Grrrrr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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