Bad Wolf Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 He's out of contract at the end of the season, isn't he? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE SIGN THIS GUY UP!!!!!! We're all worrying about Shaw, J-Rod and Lallana going in the summer, at least if they go, we'll get a transfer fee! Cork could walk for nothing. A proper unsung hero, he's been rock solid all season and since he came here. Really hope he signs a new contract! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 Legend of a player, I'm completely unashamed of my spot of man love for young Jack. Future England star with Gerrard and Lampard out of the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 Signed on a 4 year deal in 2011 so runs till 2015, no idea if he's signed an extension since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 26 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 26 April, 2014 Signed on a 4 year deal in 2011 so runs till 2015, no idea if he's signed an extension since then. Ah okay, brilliant. In that case this thread is now a Jack Cork Appreciation thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 In that case this thread is now a Jack Cork Appreciation thread! Count me in. Fantastic player with an excellent attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanghai Saint Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 Terrific player and incredibly consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 Should be another one of our lads in the England set up, without question he's more than good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 Here at player seamless today stepping in for Spider-Man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 One word describes his contribution in every match he plays - stalwart. He and Davis are both reliability and endeavour personified. They are the rock on which our midfield is anchored. Hard to play our high pressing game without either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 He is awesome. Love him. Should be going to Brazil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 Jack had another great game again today. It seems Jack and Victor can play in the same midfield and both play really well..........who'd of thought it;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 Legend of a player, I'm completely unashamed of my spot of man love for young Jack. Future England star with Gerrard and Lampard out of the picture. This. He won't make the world cup squad but surely must be in pole position to get a berth in the Euro qualifiers squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 Too many fans and pundits just don't watch him Agree, although the BBC post match interviewer chap highlighted Jack's performance in his interview with MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 (edited) This. He won't make the world cup squad but surely must be in pole position to get a berth in the Euro qualifiers squad. Long way to go yet. Wilshere, Barkley, Henderson, Cleverley and others all have time and potential to improve. Hell, even Ward-Prowse might be in the reckoning by then. Gerrard, Barry and Carrick might have bowed out though, which opens up spaces. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited 26 April, 2014 by DuncanRG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 Top player, should have been in our team from the start of the season as he's as good as any. Should be playing for England too, seriously, a vital cog in our midfield. Sign him up if we're down to the last 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 As good as he is on the pitch, it's great to see him in the training photos and interviews too - he's a joker, popular, keeps morale up, and he's probably more important in the dressing room than we realise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 Cork was once again fantastic. One of the most important players in our squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 Should be another one of our lads in the England set up, without question he's more than good enough. If only he could add finishing to his game like say a Ramsey or a Henderson he'd be a top top player. Until he gets that goalscoring edge though it's hard to put him in that top bracket. Hopefully a bit of work and it will come, playing next to VW and being able to get forward more will help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 But neither of those players are defensive CMs like Jack. Ramsey always plays further forward and has more skill, just a more attacking player. I don't see why we focus on what Jack can't do when there's so much he can. He's very much a team player, not an individual, but even top sides need that. I mean in ability how does he compare to big club defensive mids like Mikel, Flamini, Sandro, Carrick, Fernandinho, Matic? I don't think he's a million miles away from some of them. Chelsea could save a lot of money by giving their own youngsters a chance, could have had Cork and Matic for free! True but if IIRC the Arse played 4-2-3-1vs Hull with Flamini and Ramsey as the 2 with Ramsey given license to get forward, much as Jack did today with VW sitting. Much as say Toure has done all year for ManCity. Don't get me wrong I think he has been terrific this year and hasn't been asked to get forward as much but if he was I'm not sure it's his natural game and he's not a pure DM as someone like a VW or a Matic I guess all I'm saying is if he could get a few goals in his game he really would be a top drawer player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 Isn't it time to cash in on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 Isn't it time to cash in on him? Only if you're as much of a bellend as Olallana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 Only if you're as much of a bellend as Olallana. You still want Hangeland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 Only if you're as much of a bellend as Olallana. Cork has been sensational this season (& last) egg on Olallana's face fo sho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 I'm just glad Saints brought him back home. He was a great addition on loan, he has never let us down then or since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 Should be another one of our lads in the England set up, without question he's more than good enough. 100% agreed. Jack has been consistent all season and was immense again today. Top drawer. Deserves a place in the England squad IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 You still want Hangeland? You bet. Would you not? Why am I asking, you wanted shot of Jack Cork. And instead of admitting you got that wrong, you only want to point in other directions instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 27 April, 2014 Share Posted 27 April, 2014 You bet. Would you not? Why am I asking, you wanted shot of Jack Cork. And instead of admitting you got that wrong, you only want to point in other directions instead. Hangeland? No, I´ve seen cargo ships turn faster... Then you haven´t read the opening post, just the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 27 April, 2014 Share Posted 27 April, 2014 Hangeland? No, I´ve seen cargo ships turn faster... Then you haven´t read the opening post, just the title. Which OP? Your classic one, or this one? If it's your one, can you save me the time and highlight the points that were valid? Actually, no bother, I'll do you a favour and do the same. This should be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 27 April, 2014 Share Posted 27 April, 2014 Here we go. Yes, that was my question and before you snap my head off maybe you can read my thoughts.... Is this something that could benefit the team, maybe. Quite clearly, detrimental to the team had he left. Let me first admit that I dont know the answer to my own question and what my opinion is but there are scenarios that could happen to make it a viable question though I think. With JWP emerging now in CM position, that might put Cork down to the 4th option as CM and he is too good to be that imo. When we look at the team and depth in positions we have as CM options Wanyama, Schneiderlin, JWP, Cork, Davis and maybe even Guly as a final desperate option. JWP and Davis can play as one of the attacking four but we have a lot of options there too with Lambert, Osvaldo, Ramirez, Lallana, Rodriguez, Mayuka, Guly, Isgrove and if another one is coming in like Piatti we have really good cover for the front 4. If we sell Cork then we would probably have Davis as the fourth option as CM and that is not bad imo. Obviously if you only consider the footballing quality you would prefer Cork but a squad isn´t always managed like that, at least not where we are at the moment. Let´s say we have an offer for £7-8m for Cork which isn´t beyond possible and we could reinvest that money in a CM like Koyate or Alderweireld, would that make sense? If I remember correct Corks contract is up 2015 (if it´s 2016 my thoughts would be a little different though). If he has a season now when he doesn´t get many games in the starting XI and mostly comes off the bench I dont think he will sign a new contract and next summer with one year left on the contract and a season behind him with not that much game time his resale value would drop with 50% imo. Obviously he´s a great choice to have coming off the bench if we are leading games, but imo he is so good that he deserves to be a starting lineup player in the PL and I´m not sure we can offer him that this season.... Well that´s it, let the headhunt on me begin As for the rest. Well, I'm wasting my time looking at it, it's probably best you point out the bits you think you got right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 27 April, 2014 Share Posted 27 April, 2014 Quality player in area we are blessed. several calls for him to be considered for England squad - pretty impressive when he has spent the season as our 3rd or 4th choice. For me best pairing Morgan/ Wanyama, but Cork has shown he is very high quality cover for either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 27 April, 2014 Share Posted 27 April, 2014 What a season he has had.Must come into Wroy's reckoning surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintoaks Posted 27 April, 2014 Share Posted 27 April, 2014 Spot on thread...has a massive future still with club and country. I also think he will be on woys wader after the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 27 April, 2014 Share Posted 27 April, 2014 Too late for him to make a push for the squad. I guess because he does the dirty work in midfield, and doesn't contribute as much in an attacking sense, he goes under the radar. E Roy could do a lot worse than take him as someone to bring on to hold a lead. Gerrard's had a great season, but Wilshere's constantly injured and never really improved and in my mind too much of a risk to bother taking to Brazil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 27 April, 2014 Share Posted 27 April, 2014 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/10789764/Southampton-2-Everton-0-match-report.html 6/10??? Same as deulofeu? Shocking assessment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 April, 2014 Share Posted 27 April, 2014 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/10789764/Southampton-2-Everton-0-match-report.html 6/10??? Same as deulofeu? Shocking assessment Can't say why they see it that way, I wouldn't even give Deulofeu 6. Everton were very,very poor, it might have not looked that way in the ground but on TV it looked as if they couldn't be arsed most of the time or didn't want to get injured. Barkley,Barry and McCarthy just didn't exist and our lads had a walk through afternoon...did that well though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 27 April, 2014 Share Posted 27 April, 2014 I was at the game and can tell you Windows that Everton did not really get a look in. How we were set up. How we played. Great team effort as usual by the mighty Saints. Credit where it is due. We did not let Everton play. At times Everton were chasing shadows. We were far superior all over the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 27 April, 2014 Share Posted 27 April, 2014 As last season, Cork has been absolutely outstanding. He is far far better than given credit for. The Wanyama Cork discussion earlier in the season had the Cork fans laughed out of town when they suggested he was the better option/player, but even the most ardent Victor fan must now find it a tough old choice. Brilliant for us that we have that kind if competition in the middle. I do worry a little that Cork might demand a starting birth to sign a new contract. The lack of games earlier on seemed to have his agent looking for a move if the sports reports are Anyang to go by. I wonder if he will get the games next season, because we do seem to win more games with Wanyama sitting in front of the back four. That said if Morgan goes, which could happen, at least we have some good players to try and fill that massive hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 27 April, 2014 Share Posted 27 April, 2014 Anyone else hear 606 a few weeks back when a listener phoned in to suggest Corky should be in the squad? That complete Bellend Savage berated him as if it was the most ridiculous suggestion ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 27 April, 2014 Share Posted 27 April, 2014 Anyone else hear 606 a few weeks back when a listener phoned in to suggest Corky should be in the squad? That complete Bellend Savage berated him as if it was the most ridiculous suggestion ever! They guy is a fuking **** Just awful to what he does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 27 April, 2014 Share Posted 27 April, 2014 Anyone else hear 606 a few weeks back when a listener phoned in to suggest Corky should be in the squad? That complete Bellend Savage berated him as if it was the most ridiculous suggestion ever! If Cleverley can be in and around the squad, then so can Cork. Heck, if Cleverley can play for England then so can I! http://www.tomcleverley23.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 27 April, 2014 Share Posted 27 April, 2014 http://www.tomcleverley23.com/ that's v.cruel whoever made that! The Q&A responses are hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 28 April, 2014 Share Posted 28 April, 2014 Get him signed up on a long contract and he'll be pushing for Euro 2016 I reckon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 28 April, 2014 Share Posted 28 April, 2014 Too many fans and pundits just don't watch him and mock you when you suggest he should be in the england squad. There's a shortage of ball winning CMs. We're relying on an old Gerrard who is far better going forward. Barry has been great, but isn't in the squad either and was outplayed today. Cork is consistent, full of energy, composed and plays for a good possession side. Get the impression he'd have more chance if he was 19 and had come through our academy. Most people now generally agree just how good Gerrard is (unless they're a plank) and he has found a new lease of life playing as a DM. He is pretty much regarded as the best holding midfielder in Europe now. Jack though should IMO be there as his understudy. But then Ive always thought that ever since Rodwell retired at Man City. Wilshere, Henderson and Barkley are all arguably better players then Cork but he is more of a natural in that position then any of them. He really is a very good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 28 April, 2014 Share Posted 28 April, 2014 Most people now generally agree just how good Gerrard is (unless they're a plank) and he has found a new lease of life playing as a DM. He is pretty much regarded as the best holding midfielder in Europe now. Jack though should IMO be there as his understudy. But then Ive always thought that ever since Rodwell retired at Man City. Wilshere, Henderson and Barkley are all arguably better players then Cork but he is more of a natural in that position then any of them. He really is a very good player. Really is he? Don't think he has the legs if pressed or forced into a scrap. We exposed his weaknesses up at their place by taking the game to them. His ability to spread the ball is great but he needs a Lucas of Allen or Henderson to take the pressure off him - hardly the definition of a versatile DM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 28 April, 2014 Share Posted 28 April, 2014 Really is he? Don't think he has the legs if pressed or forced into a scrap. We exposed his weaknesses up at their place by taking the game to them. His ability to spread the ball is great but he needs a Lucas of Allen or Henderson to take the pressure off him - hardly the definition of a versatile DM. Well it isnt just me, majority of the written press and a large amount of very able coaches believe he is very very good. A good DM doesnt really need to massively quick anyway but his mobility for me isnt in question. The reason that most effective holding midfielders tend to be mature is because its a position that requires experience over most other attributes. He has that in abundance. Now I dont doubt he wont be in the squad for the next WC but right now he is genuinely the best we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob40 Posted 28 April, 2014 Share Posted 28 April, 2014 But sums up many outsiders view on Cork, i.e. not having one and just not being on the radar. It shows a lack of knowledge of players in the league. Fair enough if you watch him regularly and don't rate him or think someone else is better, but it just comes across as never having seen him. England are woefully short in that position. Plenty of good attacking midfielders, but our only defensive one is prone to falling on his arse in title deciders. If Cork had been first choice all season he might have had a chance. Still, think he should be looked at after the world cup, he offers something offers don't seem to be able to. Bit like Owen Hargreaves only with working limbs. Does Owen Hargreaves fix his hair down with super glue these days? I find it most troubling, right up there with Lee Cattermole's Simon Cowell shorts up to the armpits look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketphilly Posted 28 April, 2014 Share Posted 28 April, 2014 Are Cork and Terry the only two Chelsea apprentices playing in the Premier League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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