Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 Anyone who doesn't think clubs are making deals with players because there has been no offical interest , is seriously deluded.
Bearsy Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 i dunno LD, his statement seemed pretty categorical to me, he said he'd not even had any enquiries! He would be v.big liar IMO if he's been conducting clandestine negotiations all along
pap Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 i dunno LD, his statement seemed pretty categorical to me, he said he'd not even had any enquiries! He would be v.big liar IMO if he's been conducting clandestine negotiations all along He would be a liar of extraordinary magnitude if that were the case. We'd have to give him a nickname or something. I've said for a while that most of the signs are positive. While he may share a surname with 80s horror icon Freddy, I don't think Ralph Krueger has come here for a nightmare.
Window Cleaner Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 i dunno LD, his statement seemed pretty categorical to me, he said he'd not even had any enquiries! He would be v.big liar IMO if he's been conducting clandestine negotiations all along However when you reflect on it all the popular press has goaded us into doing something we don't usually do, commenting on rumours.
derry Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 KL, RK, and now LR have said that no player that Mauricio wants to keep will be sold. If that's not unanimous I don't know what is!
trousers Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 How about this for a conspiracy theory...the Saints board leak stories of bids for their players and then issue a denial. Hey presto, they've just inflated the asking price of all our top players. Nah, perhaps not...
Badger Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 Les Reed is a massive Charlton fan But Charlton are probably no massive fans of Les Reed. Sorry GS, but not sure what point, if any you are making here.
OldNick Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 Les Reed is a massive Charlton fan and your point is ? MLT a Spurs fan, I think AL is a Liverpool fan, Shaw a Chelsea fan
Goatboy Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 and your point is ? MLT a Spurs fan, I think AL is a Liverpool fan, Shaw a Chelsea fan Who does GS support?
verlaine1979 Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 Communication is 55% non-verbal, 38% tone and only 7% words. Our bodies have an annoying habit of letting out more info than we want. Is there a more self-evidently idiotic statistic than this one? If the words themselves only made up 7% of the content of communication, they'd be largely arbitrary, and complex ideas could be communicated primarily through shrugs and grimaces.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 He would be a liar of extraordinary magnitude if that were the case. We'd have to give him a nickname or something. I've said for a while that most of the signs are positive. While he may share a surname with 80s horror icon Freddy, I don't think Ralph Krueger has come here for a nightmare. Massive liar, what could we call him? I vote for Glasgow Saint :lol:
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 and your point is ? MLT a Spurs fan, I think AL is a Liverpool fan, Shaw a Chelsea fan Lallana is Everton, same as Barry.
Solid Saint Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 Who does GS support? I think its Man U? Not 100% mind... Defo not Saints.
davefizzy14 Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 Very encouraging from Les Reed, this is excellent news,
Goatboy Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 I think its Man U? Not 100% mind... Defo not Saints. He's going to the game tomorrow apparently. Maybe he'll post a photo. Always wondered what SMS looks like from the away end;)
CB Fry Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 Always nice to say **** off to the journalists and bigger clubs who either make up **** or think they have the god given divine right to get other teams players. Thank god there is an early match tomorrow so this forum can get back to criticising our players, questioning the board and manager. I don't think I have seen Bearsy make so many sensible posts on 1 thread. Except it isn't the clubs planting the stories, or the journalists making them up. The sources are most likely to be from the web of agents and middle men connected to clubs, managers and players. With a few random sources thrown in, for example there is a bit David Moyes face saving going on, or, perish the thought, an embittered weasel-faced Italian keen to stir up some sh it.
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 Except it isn't the clubs planting the stories, or the journalists making them up. The sources are most likely to be from the web of agents and middle men connected to clubs, managers and players. With a few random sources thrown in, for example there is a bit David Moyes face saving going on, or, perish the thought, an embittered weasel-faced Italian keen to stir up some sh it. Yea but should the guy from the Guardian be not only swallowing this crap but actually publishing it? Maybe I am niaive but I expect more from such sources?
DuncanRG Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 Is there a more self-evidently idiotic statistic than this one? If the words themselves only made up 7% of the content of communication, they'd be largely arbitrary, and complex ideas could be communicated primarily through shrugs and grimaces. His mouth says Guly Do Prado, but his eyes say Julie Andrews
Turkish Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 However when you reflect on it all the popular press has goaded us into doing something we don't usually do, commenting on rumours. That was the old way, that's old hat now and stupid. Remember when we didn't reveal injuries and that was a master stroke by Adkins, yet when MP came in we do and Adkins didn't know want he was doing and out of his depth, MP was the future and revealing injuries was the way forward? Well this is similar. Now its pathetic not to comment on speculation and this great statement is proof.
CB Fry Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 Yea but should the guy from the Guardian be not only swallowing this crap but actually publishing it? Maybe I am niaive but I expect more from such sources? It's been proved conclusively that none of is true, then? The stuff around Man U intending to gazump Chelsea, and them stepping back could well be true at this point. As could the Evra thing. As could the Moyes bit. Our Les is incapable of saying none of that stuff has happened or is still happening. Les Reed ' s statement is great but is not the end of a chapter some seem to think it is. This is all part of the game, and it is far more multi - faceted than "that evil lazy journalist is a liar" and "a club spokesman has said it so it is undeniable truth".
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 It's been proved conclusively that none of is true, then? The stuff around Man U intending to gazump Chelsea, and them stepping back could well be true at this point. As could the Evra thing. As could the Moyes bit. Our Les is incapable of saying none of that stuff has happened or is still happening. Les Reed ' s statement is great but is not the end of a chapter some seem to think it is. This is all part of the game, and it is far more multi - faceted than "that evil lazy journalist is a liar" and "a club spokesman has said it so it is undeniable truth". Yea fair point - the fans emotions are increasingly secondary in the greater scheme of things. Beam me back to 1900
Cascadia Saint Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 Yes. Happy Clappers United 10 - Doom City Albion 0 (Glasgow Saint og. 1, Barry Sanchez og 12, Glasgow Saint og. 23, Barry Sanchez og 27, Barry Sanchez og 28, Glasgow Saint og. 45, Glasgow Saint og. 67, Barry Sanchez og 70, Glasgow Saint og. 78, Barry Sanchez og 90 ) Player of the Match: Les Reed Haha! Perfect. I see Alpine couldn't even get off the bench.
aintforever Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 Good statement but we all know that Shaw and Lallana's futures depends more on what they, their agents and other big club's decide than what Les Reed wants.
TwoPints Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 Seems pretty categoric to me. The club don't normally respond to rumours but the latest Luke Shaw one probably needed a statement to calm a few nerves. Good to hear that MoPo is discussing the future too. That's the key to next season really. Get him signed up on a nice long contract and I'm sure we'll keep the likes of Shaw for at least another season. Although Shaw has had the headlines this year, I'm not 100% convinced he'd walk into a first team spot in a top 4 club ... not unless we finish in the top 4 next season of course ? Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk
tedmaul Posted 25 April, 2014 Posted 25 April, 2014 Yea but should the guy from the Guardian be not only swallowing this crap but actually publishing it? Maybe I am niaive but I expect more from such sources? Jamie Jackson, I would trust that he has reported everything told to him verbatim. Whether someone's spinning something, I don't know but he's certainly well connected in Manchester and The Guardian wouldn't go so big headline wise without sources.
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 The naive believe a statement they want to believe shocker, its like asking a Christian do they believe in God.
Convict Colony Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 The naive believe a statement they want to believe shocker, its like asking a Christian do they believe in God. Well done baz your back in the game, let battle commence
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 (edited) Well done baz your back in the game, let battle commence This **** would not have gone down like this yesterday but was stuck in a meeting and pub and could not post, I cried. Edited 26 April, 2014 by Barry Sanchez
JoeShmoe Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 This **** would not have gone down like this yesterday but was stuck in a meeting and pub and could not post, I cried.
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 Joe pulling out archive stuff does nothing for your banter, there should be a poll, what fans have the worst banter, from my time on the bbc606 Celtic/Rangers/Bham City and Liverpool fans had the best banter, we on the other hand had posters that made point Dexter seemed exciting.
shirleysfc Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 The naive believe a statement they want to believe shocker, its like asking a Christian do they believe in God. So you think it's all lies then Baz?
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 So you think it's all lies then Baz? Believe what? That the club know of no possible buyers for their players? Yes its ********, why? Because its football.
Goatboy Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 Of course there are POSSIBLE buyers. That is not what LR said. Do you not see this statement as a good thing?
hutch Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 So let me se if I've got this right then. Owners, directors, managers, players and fans would all prefer to keep what we've got and add a few more quality players in the summer, but nobody knows what will actually happen. Is that it?
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 Of course there are POSSIBLE buyers. That is not what LR said. Do you not see this statement as a good thing? No boy I dont, I see it as club propaganda as spoken by the club fall guy.
Goatboy Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 No boy I dont, I see it as club propaganda as spoken by the club fall guy. And if no statement was made would you have been saying that the silence from the club speaks volumes?
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 And if no statement was made would you have been saying that the silence from the club speaks volumes? True I would be, your point?
Goatboy Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 My point is, Barry, sometimes it's better to just shut the f**k up. Sometimes there is a need to pass comment. Take your pick.
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 My point is, Barry, sometimes it's better to just shut the f**k up. Sometimes there is a need to pass comment. Take your pick. Well I did pick and I passed comment, are you high or something?
Goatboy Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 You are being contrary for the sake of it. Therefore, as usual, your opinion is irrelevant. I'll let you crack on now Baz. No doubt you'll heave this thread over to the MS by the end of the day. Enjoy.
dronskisaint Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 Anyone who doesn't think clubs are making deals with players because there has been no offical interest , is seriously deluded. But possibly less deluded than those who take the press at face value I suggest! I like that we seem to be continuing to do our business privately...I'd assumed it was Cortese driven but nice that the culture sustains.
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 You are being contrary for the sake of it. Therefore, as usual, your opinion is irrelevant. I'll let you crack on now Baz. No doubt you'll heave this thread over to the MS by the end of the day. Enjoy. Cheers.
dronskisaint Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 Lallana is Everton, same as Barry. Lallana supported Everton as a kid.....Barry the skatechez allegiance is self-evident!
Mouldy Coat Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 Reed also said live on TV that he didn't agree with sending young players out on loan.....the very next day and.... I like Reed but this is a PR stunt to try and keep some stability in very uncertain times. Read no more into it than that
inoffthepost Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 I follow the site but don't post much however it seems to me that, maybe, the club has felt the need to make a statement in order that season ticket sales are unaffected by the rumour mill.
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 Lallana supported Everton as a kid.....Barry the skatechez allegiance is self-evident! Barry the skatechez? That needs some work there Beverly.
Barry Sanchez Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 I follow the site but don't post much however it seems to me that, maybe, the club has felt the need to make a statement in order that season ticket sales are unaffected by the rumour mill. In one.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 i dunno LD, his statement seemed pretty categorical to me, he said he'd not even had any enquiries! He would be v.big liar IMO if he's been conducting clandestine negotiations all along There won't have been any enquiry to the club, but you can bet your life somebody has sounded out somebody as to whether players are open to a move. Look at the Suarez bit from arsenal last season, do people seriously think Suarez knew nothing about it until Liverpool told him "we've had an offer". Do people really think arsenal made that offer without some nod or wink from Suarez. The day before that offer Rodgers could say "we've had no contact" about Suarez and that would be the truth. Led reed receiving an offer will be one of the last acts of a transfer saga. As for the press, they really don't just make things up especially if its a named piece. People make things up and drip it to the press, but they don't just sit there and pluck things out of their heads. I have a life long friend who works in the gutter press, as did his father as well. He's told me loads of dodgey stuff they've done, but he's always maintained they never make transfer stuff up . Clubs are looking at hundreds of players so it doesn't necessarily mean its a lie when deals don't happen. In this case a journo hasn't just gone in, sat down and thought " I need to fill some column inches, I know I'll make up Shaw and lallana to man u". Somebody has fed them this, my guess maybe Moyes camp, under pressure he was trying to ride it out by leaking players for next season that would excite the fans. It could be agents trying to unsettle them, it could be saints trying to fire up a bidding war. It could be any number of things, but it ain't a journo just making things up , not in this day and age.
Bearsy Posted 26 April, 2014 Posted 26 April, 2014 There won't have been any enquiry to the club, but you can bet your life somebody has sounded out somebody as to whether players are open to a move. Oh gotcha, I think we're talking cross purposes. Totally ppl contact Shaw's rep, I bet they do it all the time even tho they're not sposed to! My thing was that before this statement everyone was making out like we'd officially or unofficially accepted that we were going to sell, I mean the club rather than Shaw's agent. I thought that too! I don't now really, I reckon we're gonna make a fight of it!
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