the saint in winchester Posted 20 April, 2014 Share Posted 20 April, 2014 Although I like the sound of top players who have done well this season - Bony, Marshall, Welbeck, Lukaku - sadly, I don't think that even if they were to move on, we would be able to outbid and offer better terms than 'the big boys'. Having said that, we are the 8th best side in this country, so hopefully we can attract some quality players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 20 April, 2014 Share Posted 20 April, 2014 Marshall Caulker Redmond Bamford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 20 April, 2014 Share Posted 20 April, 2014 Still a big thing to say that Chamberlain wont win any silverware at Arsenal when talking about his possibility of going back to us IMO. Well quite he still has more chance of winning silverware with Arse than us...... the idea he would come back to us is laughable. Still wouldn't bet on Arsenal fecking it up against Hull though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintadjg Posted 20 April, 2014 Share Posted 20 April, 2014 Can someone point me to the good games that Wellbeck played so well in.Coz I just don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 20 April, 2014 Share Posted 20 April, 2014 Can someone point me to the good games that Wellbeck played so well in.Coz I just don't see it. England vs Moldova. Lambert and Wellbeck looked like a great partnership which is, I think, why his name keeps popping up on these sort of threads. Problem is he seems to play better for England than he ever does for Man U. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 20 April, 2014 Share Posted 20 April, 2014 Can someone point me to the good games that Wellbeck played so well in.Coz I just don't see it. Off the top of my head... Most (not all) England games - particularly the Moldova game as noted above, and vs Sweden at the Euros vs Bayern Munich at Old Trafford, in very difficult circumstances vs Real Madrid at the Bernabeu last year Both games against Swansea this season When they beat Villa 3-0 a few months ago + plenty of good performances for Sunderland There are more. He's far from the finished article but he's hardly had a good run of starts in his career. Not since he was at Sunderland, if memory serves. I'd give him a go if the price is right and we judge him to be a suitable character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 20 April, 2014 Share Posted 20 April, 2014 England vs Moldova. Lambert and Wellbeck looked like a great partnership which is, I think, why his name keeps popping up on these sort of threads. Problem is he seems to play better for England than he ever does for Man U. It was Moldova, I could even look good against them. To be fair, Welbeck probably needs to go to (another!) mid-table club to revive his career. He has ability I think, but Man Utd isn't exacly a place for any player to flourish right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 20 April, 2014 Share Posted 20 April, 2014 Wellbz is my #1 transfer target! If I could have any player in the world I would have Wellbz! I'm not even joking, I think he would be such legend if he played for us! I love his style + his attitude + his haircut! Pls pls don't mug off Wellbz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenagegsaint Posted 20 April, 2014 Share Posted 20 April, 2014 Mannone £3m-5m! good age will learn from Boruc Caulker £8m-10m Holtby- Available for £6m I think Bertrand-£5m only because Shaw will definitely go If not Bertrand then Cresswell £4m Drmic- £4.5m Then a good fast winger but right now I can't think of one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenagegsaint Posted 20 April, 2014 Share Posted 20 April, 2014 Mannone £3m-5m! good age will learn from Boruc Caulker £8m-10m Holtby- Available for £6m I think Bertrand-£5m only because Shaw will definitely go If not Bertrand then Cresswell £4m Drmic- £4.5m Then a good fast winger but right now I can't think of one Got one, Redmond could be good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 20 April, 2014 Share Posted 20 April, 2014 The other player I like is arnautovic (sp?) of Stoke. I dunno anything about him really, but when I see him I admire his bustle & technique. I think he'd do good with us, maybe playing in Steven Davis spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 20 April, 2014 Share Posted 20 April, 2014 Gary Medel at Cardiff, although we don't necessarily need another holding midfield player he would add a bit of bite to the middle and Morgan could get further up the field like earlier in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 20 April, 2014 Share Posted 20 April, 2014 Schmeichel, Bony, Ings, The problem is they are all highly rated players at Prem clubs with no need at all to sell. In order to get them we would have to offer a silly transfer fee and wages, well beyond what they are actually worth. Schmeichel is out of contract in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneysaint17 Posted 20 April, 2014 Share Posted 20 April, 2014 Few of the possible relegation candidates have some gettable, decent players. Shame Palace are safe, that Puncheon looks handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 20 April, 2014 Share Posted 20 April, 2014 The other player I like is arnautovic (sp?) of Stoke. I dunno anything about him really, but when I see him I admire his bustle & technique. I think he'd do good with us, maybe playing in Steven Davis spot. And his temper could fit perfect for an Osvaldo replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 20 April, 2014 Share Posted 20 April, 2014 Most of the suggestions so far a bit unrealistic. Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 20 April, 2014 Share Posted 20 April, 2014 I don't think we'll be buying any players from English clubs, they'll be from foreign leagues like last summer - let's hope we can get a couple more Lovrens than Osvaldos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 20 April, 2014 Share Posted 20 April, 2014 I would take Redmond and Marshall from Norwich and Cardiff. Not sure what the fuss about Borini is in all honesty. Wellbeck will go for a stupid fee pricing us out (unless it was a part deal for Shaw). Priorities are keeper, striker and a pacey option for the front 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 20 April, 2014 Share Posted 20 April, 2014 I do think if we're to lose Shaw to a big club, it wouldn't be bad business trying to get a player or two in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 20 April, 2014 Share Posted 20 April, 2014 I would take Holtby and sell Gaston. Not sure who I would want to replace Osvaldo though We will need to keep Gaston as AL will be off in the summer for silly money. Gaston won't manage 38 games so we need an Al replacement which Holtby could do. My issue with Wellbeck is he doesn't seem to have the greatest footballing brain on the planet. But Oxo would be a shout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 20 April, 2014 Share Posted 20 April, 2014 Priorities are keeper, striker and a pacey option for the front 4. Pacier than Lallana and Rodriguez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Ok a couple from a couple here, some are very doubtful but then again I would of said getting one of Serie A's top scorers last summer was also unlikely. La Liga: Rafinha Alacantra on loan at Celta Vigo from Barca, plays AM left mainly but being linked with the big boys, will probably go bayern to join his bro and fill in occasionally for Robben. Antoine Griezmann plays for Sociedad and is a 23yr old frenchmen, was being linked with Liverpool but I think they will be upping their budget now and don't think they need anymore AM in their current team. Eredivisie - (Great Value League) Memphis Depay 20yr old winger playing for PSV, has a full cap already, 12 goals and 7 assists already and rated at 5 mil according to transfermarkt. Quincy Promes, 22yr old winger playing for twente, has 11 goals and 8 assists already, again has played once for the national team and is rated at 3mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 People writing off welbeck should remember how average Daniel Sturridge looked at Chelsea. Given a proper run in his favourite position, he will prove a lot of doubters wrong IMHO. I'd like caulker and Marshall and think we need a lb, an am and a cf. would very happy with welbeck but think that unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 What about Snodgrass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Oxlade Chamberlain Griezmann Mario Gomez Konoplyanka Are people on here mental?? We can't afford half the wages for these players. We only pay Ramirez and Osvaldo 40k pw, these players would be looking at 60 minimum, and we won't be breaking our wage structures. Players to look at at: Gk: Marshall Schmeichel Mannone Ruddy CB: Caulker Astori ST Drmic Ings Also, will people please stop mentioning Redmond and Borini, both are pretty darn rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Wouldn't mind talking Aaron Lennon and trying to help him find form again, would add some pace anyway and used to score a few. Spurs have a habit of selling useful players. That would be a good signing as he has so much pace and something that we need badly. If we could get Marshall too, the that would be something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 That would be a good signing as he has so much pace and something that we need badly. If we could get Marshall too, the that would be something. He cannot pass accurately - that will undoubtedly be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Oxlade Chamberlain Griezmann Mario Gomez Konoplyanka Are people on here mental?? We can't afford half the wages for these players. We only pay Ramirez and Osvaldo 40k pw, these players would be looking at 60 minimum, and we won't be breaking our wage structures. Players to look at at: Gk: Marshall Schmeichel Mannone Ruddy CB: Caulker Astori ST Drmic Ings Also, will people please stop mentioning Redmond and Borini, both are pretty darn rubbish. Sorry but you're writing of Redmond (who has Europa league and PL experience) as rubbish but suggesting Ings ............dear god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Sorry but you're writing of Redmond (who has Europa league and PL experience) as rubbish but suggesting Ings ............dear god. No, it's due to position scarcity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Problem is he seems to play better for England than he ever does for Man U. Opposite to Rooney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Marshalls scottish. Not sure we can afford Richards, and I'm not sure he has the right attitude either, but certainly has the ability. I always thought he'd end up at centre back and I reckon he could do a job there for us. Personally don't rate Lennon, I think his best years are very much behind him. I suspect our targets for the attacking options will be abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 What about Snodgrass? Utter utter garbage IMO but might do well in the Championship next year. Awful player and would not fit in with our style of play at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Gary Medel at Cardiff, although we don't necessarily need another holding midfield player he would add a bit of bite to the middle and Morgan could get further up the field like earlier in the season. Surely Vic is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Why would he come here now? He wouldn't obviously. I didn't mean for that to come across as that we could re-sign Chamberlain. What annoys me is the fatalistic attitude that inevitably the great talent we produce will be 'too good for us' and leave. As Les Reed said several weeks back, we produce players for Southampton football club and no one else. The idea that some fans think a player we have invested 8+ years of coaching in to be then be 'too good' or better than us as a club just smacks of self-defeatism. On potential signings I'd like to see: Carlos Vela would be superb, though as others have commented, not sure where his head is at right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentry Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Caulker Vermaelen Holtby Benteke Marshall Begovic Moses Jordi Gomez I would look at those, I dont know much about forign leagues, but they all seem possible to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 He wouldn't obviously. I didn't mean for that to come across as that we could re-sign Chamberlain. What annoys me is the fatalistic attitude that inevitably the great talent we produce will be 'too good for us' and leave. As Les Reed said several weeks back, we produce players for Southampton football club and no one else. The idea that some fans think a player we have invested 8+ years of coaching in to be then be 'too good' or better than us as a club just smacks of self-defeatism. On potential signings I'd like to see: Carlos Vela would be superb, though as others have commented, not sure where his head is at right now. Do we produce players just for SFC? The available evidence suggests otherwise. I suspect attitudes will start to change if we can keep the current crop for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 (edited) Do we produce players just for SFC? The available evidence suggests otherwise. I suspect attitudes will start to change if we can keep the current crop for a while. Historically no, but that is the ideal - one that we as fans should invest in a bit more. And yes you are right, that will be a bit easier to do so depending on what happens this summer. Edited 21 April, 2014 by Toon Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Do we produce players just for SFC? The available evidence suggests otherwise. I suspect attitudes will start to change if we can keep the current crop for a while. Up to now we haven't. We have been a breeder-feeder club that has to tolerate the learning process whilst the richer clubs cream off the talent. This happens all the way down the leagues, to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Right people will say I keep banging on about this player but Rémy Cabella Will be a future top top player Here s a youtube video of him: http://youtu.be/aytchoilOb8 Plus yesterday he scored 2 goals for Montpellier in their 4-4 draw against Lorient. Here s a video of his first goal: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Right people will say I keep banging on about this player but Rémy Cabella Will be a future top top player Here s a youtube video of him: http://youtu.be/aytchoilOb8 Plus yesterday he scored 2 goals for Montpellier in their 4-4 draw against Lorient. Here s a video of his first goal: Likelihood of us being able to attract him here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Right people will say I keep banging on about this player but Rémy Cabella Will be a future top top player Here s a youtube video of him: http://youtu.be/aytchoilOb8 Plus yesterday he scored 2 goals for Montpellier in their 4-4 draw against Lorient. Here s a video of his first goal: Yup, was on my list yesterday. Looks a talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Likelihood of us being able to attract him here? Newcastle were linked with him in January. So why not us? Montpellier have agreed to release him at the end if the season. It s the type of player we should be looking for and i can definately see him replacing if he goes at the end of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Chances of us being able to get Miroslav Stoch this year? We were linked with him last season but it came to nothing, he's been on loan at PAOK this year, they may be looking to offload him. Great player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Newcastle were linked with him in January. So why not us? Montpellier have agreed to release him at the end if the season. It s the type of player we should be looking for and i can definately see him replacing if he goes at the end of the season I've got no idea, not heard of him. What sort of price tag you reckon he'd carry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 I know, but 3 more England internationals would be nice. Richards doesn't seem to have a poor attitude, he's stayed at a club he really likes but hasn't been given much chance. He was excellent a couple of years ago. Fair enough Zabaleta is very good, but Demichellis isn't. He wanted to be a CB so might as well go somewhere that doesn't need right backs. We already have 2 right backs, and he's not good enough positionally to play in the middle. Would also likely cost upwards of £60k/week. Not the kind of player I'm bothered about personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 I've got no idea, not heard of him. What sort of price tag you reckon he'd carry? Cabella? Round about 12 million euros I'd expect. Nicollin was asking 17 million € in January because he didn't want to sell the player before then end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Cabella? Round about 12 million euros I'd expect. Nicollin was asking 17 million € in January because he didn't want to sell the player before then end of the season. Thats a bargain for a player of that quality. I suspect he might end up at a "bigger" club than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Thats a bargain for a player of that quality. I suspect he might end up at a "bigger" club than us. No idea, the French league is very poor overall and even a sack of crap can look to be a good player on occasions because of the time and space available and the wimpy tackling. Nothing against Cabella, probably be alright but wouldn't spend billions on him. Ben Arfa looked a fantastic player when he was at Lyon but he's been very hit and miss with Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 No idea, the French league is very poor overall and even a sack of crap can look to be a good player on occasions because of the time and space available and the wimpy tackling. Nothing against Cabella, probably be alright but wouldn't spend billions on him. Ben Arfa looked a fantastic player when he was at Lyon but he's been very hit and miss with Newcastle. Ben arfa was blowed hot and cold at Lyon and Marseille just like he is at Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 I said we didn't need right backs and he doesn't want to be one. He's played very well at CB before, are we saying he couldn't improve on Fonte? I think he could....but I would be concerned that he would come as a bit of a 'big time charlie' and would be on a different level of wages compared to the rest of the playing squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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