Batman Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 Just my opinion but if we carry on playing the pedestrian one paced football of the last few games, we'll struggle to score another goal this season. what we should have done, was strengthen the squad in january......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 what we should have done, was strengthen the squad in january......... Or not sent Isgrove out on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK8267 Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 Think I'd use Shaw LMF to give us more pace going forward, sadly lacking since JRod's injury. Clyne at LB and they could double up on Colman, when he comes forward. Would prefer to use Clyne infront of Chambers if anything, covering and overlapping each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 Or not sent Isgrove out on loan. or bought some actual quality. the fact he is out on loan suggests the club felt he was not ready for prem football.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 Would prefer to use Clyne infront of Chambers if anything, covering and overlapping each other Then you'd have to play Davis or JWP out of position on the left. Not sure I would fancy either of them there against Colreman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 Think I'd use Shaw LMF to give us more pace going forward, sadly lacking since JRod's injury. Clyne at LB and they could double up on Colman, when he comes forward. At home you'd expect the full backs to get forward regardless of opposition. Besides, at SMS it's only the full backs that really put the burners on - Lallana and Davis are quick enough to do their bit in midfield. It's a myth that we lack pace: we just don't play in a way that uses it much at home. Movement is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 Just my opinion but if we carry on playing the pedestrian one paced football of the last few games, we'll struggle to score another goal this season. Interesting. I saw Lambert and Lallana missing easy chances against Villa but, yeah, if only someone had been running around more quickly at the same time we definitely would have scored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 Would prefer to use Clyne infront of Chambers if anything, covering and overlapping each other You expect Clyne can play in midfield in a 433 variation? At the expense of who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA SaintsFan Posted 23 April, 2014 Share Posted 23 April, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2610484/Southampton-unveil-crazy-St-Marys-pitch-cut-clash-Everton.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Bones Posted 23 April, 2014 Share Posted 23 April, 2014 Tough, Tough game.... but one that should provide an excellent game for the neutrals. I think a 2-2 draw is on the cards but would love to see us somehow sneak a win with this one. My first outing with the Southampton Australian Supporters in Perth so it will be good to be watching the game with a group of Saints fans. A win will give us our highest premiership point tally I believe ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettIvo Posted 23 April, 2014 Share Posted 23 April, 2014 Tough, Tough game.... but one that should provide an excellent game for the neutrals. I think a 2-2 draw is on the cards but would love to see us somehow sneak a win with this one. My first outing with the Southampton Australian Supporters in Perth so it will be good to be watching the game with a group of Saints fans. A win will give us our highest premiership point tally I believe ??? I too hope to be at that Perth event, but I am feeling a little pessimistic about the result. Felt Everton were outplayed at times against MUFC, but they carved them up on the break. Our back four will have a tough time containing them I fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 23 April, 2014 Share Posted 23 April, 2014 Mirallas is out injured, which should help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 23 April, 2014 Share Posted 23 April, 2014 This will no doubt be another Snore draw but the money's been paid so we must endure. Roll on next season although if there is a serious exodus in the summer, it may well be time for me to call time on ST purchase. It's all on the internet in HD nowadays anyway so who needs to fork out over £700 to watch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK8267 Posted 23 April, 2014 Share Posted 23 April, 2014 Then you'd have to play Davis or JWP out of position on the left. Not sure I would fancy either of them there against Colreman. Having watched Davis infront of Clyne and Chambers on the right he is very happy to drop back into the fullback position to support one of them breaking forward however of recent neither have gone forward well, unlike Shaw who is always willing to attack therefore I'd be more happy to have Davis on the left helping covering Shaw the only difference between playing with your right foot or left and from what I've seen Davis can use both. which would allow Chambers RB & Clyne RM to cover and attack down the right side. You expect Clyne can play in midfield in a 433 variation? At the expense of who? JWP has not done anywhere near enough for me as of recent. He has the makings to be a great player and leader however at the moment we need some injection of pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rees Posted 23 April, 2014 Share Posted 23 April, 2014 Hopefully Gaston is back for this one, IMO we were unlucky vs Cardiff not to score first half and he was the main threat. Same team that started vs Villa with Gaston in for JWP if he is fit. Clyne will add pace in attack and Big Vic will break up play in midifield, if it weren't for Shaw he was my MOTM vs Villa. I'd be delighted to get a draw from this and come away without any injuries, we are on BT Sport after all - surely our bad luck on there has to stop at some point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 April, 2014 Share Posted 23 April, 2014 Hopefully Gaston is back for this one, IMO we were unlucky vs Cardiff not to score first half and he was the main threat. Same team that started vs Villa with Gaston in for JWP if he is fit. Clyne will add pace in attack and Big Vic will break up play in midifield, if it weren't for Shaw he was my MOTM vs Villa. I'd be delighted to get a draw from this and come away without any injuries, we are on BT Sport after all - surely our bad luck on there has to stop at some point! Gaston is finished for the league season isn't he? Problems with both ankles . Think he's played his last game for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 23 April, 2014 Share Posted 23 April, 2014 why on earth would that work? it wont happen and thank god for that People seem to think that just because Bale turned into an attacking player that every decent left back can now do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 April, 2014 Share Posted 23 April, 2014 People seem to think that just because Bale turned into an attacking player that every decent left back can now do the same. just saw the highlights of bale tearing barca a new one in the copa del rey what a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 April, 2014 Share Posted 23 April, 2014 People seem to think that just because Bale turned into an attacking player that every decent left back can now do the same. tbf our three fullbacks have similar qualities to wingers and are often found in very advanced positions with midfielders covering them for large parts of the game. Plus Chambers and Shaw both have histories of playing as wingers in their youth careers, I think Clyne may have as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 23 April, 2014 Share Posted 23 April, 2014 tbf our three fullbacks have similar qualities to wingers and are often found in very advanced positions with midfielders covering them for large parts of the game. Plus Chambers and Shaw both have histories of playing as wingers in their youth careers, I think Clyne may have as well. How many goals or assists have the three players contributed this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 April, 2014 Share Posted 23 April, 2014 How many goals or assists have the three players contributed this season? Not many, but it doesn't mean they don't play with a huge amount of attacking license. If Chambers for example makes an attacking run, crosses it, Lambert knocks it down and Rodriguez scores then merely looking at "assists" won't give Chambers any credit as an attacking fullback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 23 April, 2014 Share Posted 23 April, 2014 Not many, but it doesn't mean they don't play with a huge amount of attacking license. They clearly do. They attack, their return for this season suggests one wouldn't want to rely on them in out and out attacking roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 April, 2014 Share Posted 23 April, 2014 They attack, their return for this season suggests one wouldn't want to rely on them in out and out attacking roles. If Chambers for example makes an attacking run, crosses it, Lambert knocks it down and Rodriguez scores then merely looking at "assists" won't give Chambers any credit as an attacking fullback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 23 April, 2014 Share Posted 23 April, 2014 If Chambers for example makes an attacking run, crosses it, Lambert knocks it down and Rodriguez scores then merely looking at "assists" won't give Chambers any credit as an attacking fullback. Yes, I know how assists work, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 I noticed a couple of weeks ago that Everton had sold out their end , but does anyone know if they've taken the full 3200? Home ends now close to being sold out so hopefully a decent atmosphere for an early ko. Looking forward to the game, Everton will have to go for the win so should be quite open. Would definitely take a point but a win would be nice to lift the place, lots of negatively at the Cardiff game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrich van Gobbel Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Distin ruled out for Saturday.. Maybe he was scared of the 'Yoooo Skate bastooood' chants. A blow for them nonetheless.. He is a solid PL centre back and has had a good season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrich Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Fancy us to get a goal or two with Stones and Alcaraz at centre back for them. Score draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Fancy us to get a goal or two with Stones and Alcaraz at centre back for them. Score draw. We might need to shoot first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 No, we need to put our foot through the ball like we mean it, hard and low, not scuffed in the air at the keeper! As well as avoiding the posts, bar and assorted defenders hands and arms practising basketball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Having their first choice partnership out is a boost but Stones and Alcaraz are both decent players. Stones has been remarkably good since he's come into the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 They're pushing for a top 4 finish and we have nothing to play for....I have a sneaky suspicion we'll get a result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ando Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 We need someone with the ability and pace to run past Lambert, could Gallagher fill this role?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Gallagher IMO isn't ready yet. He needs more time playing U21 football and very ocassional sub appearances , or perhaps a loan spell, rather than being the first change option up front. Obviously losing Osvaldo and Jay Rod has brought on the need for him to play more, but he isn't at PL level, might get there, but not yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ando Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 I don't think he could give us much less than we have seen recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Players develop at different rates and Gallagher is playing in a position where it is hard to grow into a game and take it easy. I absolutely trust Pochettino's judgement so if he sees something in him that is good enough for me. That said we are chronically lacking pace in the final third and I would dearly love an Academy player with some pace to at least be on the bench this weekend. Even if they only came on for the last 15mins it would get the crowd going if the player had a good go at the defence and even if he struggles he will at least create space for other players and keep the Everton defence honest. As it stands, they can push right up the pitch with absolutely no fear about a ball over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Players develop at different rates and Gallagher is playing in a position where it is hard to grow into a game and take it easy. I absolutely trust Pochettino's judgement so if he sees something in him that is good enough for me. That said we are chronically lacking pace in the final third and I would dearly love an Academy player with some pace to at least be on the bench this weekend. Even if they only came on for the last 15mins it would get the crowd going if the player had a good go at the defence and even if he struggles he will at least create space for other players and keep the Everton defence honest. As it stands, they can push right up the pitch with absolutely no fear about a ball over the top. Would like to see Omar Rowe have a run out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 On the demand for pace I would love to see Rowe named amongst the substitutes on Saturday. A run out late on would be a wonderful opportunit for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 McQueen .....to be given a chance off the bench in our last few matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 McQueen .....to be given a chance off the bench in our last few matches. This would be my hope too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 I would bring Omar Rowe in to the squad - I am told he is fast and accurate - I am surprised he hasn't been given a chance before now with JayRod out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rees Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Can't see Gaston in the training gallery, so I'd start the same team as at Villa or with Gallagher in for JWP. Maybe even use one of the younger lads like McQueen for a bit of pace. Clyne should keep his place because he's better in the final third than Chambers IMO, Wanyama should too because he'll be able to keep Barkley and co quiet. -------AB------- NC--JF---DL--LS ---VW----MS--- SD----AL----JWP -------RL------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Can't see Gaston in the training gallery, so I'd start the same team as at Villa or with Gallagher in for JWP. Maybe even use one of the younger lads like McQueen for a bit of pace. Clyne should keep his place because he's better in the final third than Chambers IMO, Wanyama should too because he'll be able to keep Barkley and co quiet. -------AB------- NC--JF---DL--LS ---VW----MS--- SD----AL----JWP -------RL------- I'm pretty sure Gaston is out for the season with both ankles troubling him. Isn't there anyone else that we can play instead of JWP, absolutely anonymous last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rees Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 I'm pretty sure Gaston is out for the season with both ankles troubling him. I thought it was just another knock picked up in the Cardiff game, we'll find out tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 I thought it was just another knock picked up in the Cardiff game, we'll find out tomorrow No Morgan or Harry Reed visible in the training pics either, could be just camera shy this week I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Not all about pace. It's about time JWP produces the set pieces and crosses he's capable of and gave Lambert some chances in the air. Yeah we're less of a threat without Rodriguez but let's not make him out to be that brilliant now he's injured. Lallana, Lambert, Ramirez, JWP, Schneiderlin, Shaw and Clyne should be able to create something between them. He is brilliant actually. When did we last pose a goal threat without him playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Anyone see Schneiderlin in any of the training pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Anyone see Schneiderlin in any of the training pics? Nope..... could be elsewhere or just not snapped though, can't see Harry Reed either. Probably means nothing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Nope..... could be elsewhere or just not snapped though, can't see Harry Reed either. Probably means nothing at all. Usually when they aren't in one of 70 odd pics it means they weren't training. Which often means they don't play, but not always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Nope..... could be elsewhere or just not snapped though, can't see Harry Reed either. Probably means nothing at all. It normally does indicate they weren't in full training that day. 72 photos is quite a lot for someone not to appear in at all if they were present, even if just in the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 It normally does indicate they weren't in full training that day. 72 photos is quite a lot for someone not to appear in at all if they were present, even if just in the background. T'is true, can't see any reason whatsoever for Reed not being apparent though. Morgan takes a lot of knocks every single game so that's less of a surprise. I've noticed him rubbing his head often enough in recent games why that is I've no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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