Saint Charlie Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 Poch today: The former Espanyol manager claims the ball is in Southampton's court regarding a new deal. "I don't think it will be a fight, I have one more year left on my contract," he said. "The decision will be made by the club, when the club has to make that decision. "I don't really know why there needs to be this massive effort." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 If a good offer comes in we will sell, like before when we had no money and now when we do have some, we will always sell as we can not sustain the club without doing so. If anybody from the club denies that they are talking ****e, why they cant be honest and simply say that is beyond me, they know it, we know it and the prospective buying clubs knows it. We have done it to smaller clubs for years, would Torquay be able to refuse a £1 Million offer from us? Would they **** and we could not refuse £30 Million from a larger club, selling a player willingly or not is still the same thing, you sell the player. Lets get real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 If a good offer comes in we will sell, like before when we had no money and now when we do have some, we will always sell as we can not sustain the club without doing so. If anybody from the club denies that they are talking ****e, why they cant be honest and simply say that is beyond me, they know it, we know it and the prospective buying clubs knows it. We have done it to smaller clubs for years, would Torquay be able to refuse a £1 Million offer from us? Would they **** and we could not refuse £30 Million from a larger club, selling a player willingly or not is still the same thing, you sell the player. Lets get real. Where is your evidence to back up this statement? Do you have privileged info about our finances, the projections for future revenue streams, the balance sheet covering our outgoings? No, I didn't think so. It somehow seems to have escaped your notice that in terms of wealth of ownership, we are not a small club from that perspective. Therefore we do not need £30 million from the sale of Shaw in order to balance the books. We will only sell him because we think it is a good deal or Shaw wants to move. If he is sold for either of those reasons, no doubt you will take it that we were unable to keep him because we were a small club, like Torquay are at their level, and could not do otherwise. I don't hold out much hope of you getting real any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 Where is your evidence to back up this statement? Do you have privileged info about our finances, the projections for future revenue streams, the balance sheet covering our outgoings? No, I didn't think so. It somehow seems to have escaped your notice that in terms of wealth of ownership, we are not a small club from that perspective. Therefore we do not need £30 million from the sale of Shaw in order to balance the books. We will only sell him because we think it is a good deal or Shaw wants to move. If he is sold for either of those reasons, no doubt you will take it that we were unable to keep him because we were a small club, like Torquay are at their level, and could not do otherwise. I don't hold out much hope of you getting real any time soon. He has been supporting us since 1981 you know. He is a real fan. Honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 He has been supporting us since 1981 you know. He is a real fan. Honest. Pffff only 33 years, a real JCL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 Where is your evidence to back up this statement? Do you have privileged info about our finances, the projections for future revenue streams, the balance sheet covering our outgoings? No, I didn't think so. It somehow seems to have escaped your notice that in terms of wealth of ownership, we are not a small club from that perspective. Therefore we do not need £30 million from the sale of Shaw in order to balance the books. We will only sell him because we think it is a good deal or Shaw wants to move. If he is sold for either of those reasons, no doubt you will take it that we were unable to keep him because we were a small club, like Torquay are at their level, and could not do otherwise. I don't hold out much hope of you getting real any time soon. If Manchester United or Liverpool bid for Shaw you dont think if the money was right we would sell? You think Shaw would not want to go? Dont be silly, naive and blind. Where is this money then? They may have it but you have to spend it, where are the indications they will? Have they said? Have I missed something? Who's money do you refer to as well? Lets clear this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 If Manchester United or Liverpool bid for Shaw you dont think if the money was right we would sell? You think Shaw would not want to go? Dont be silly, naive and blind. Where is this money then? They may have it but you have to spend it, where are the indications they will? Have they said? Have I missed something? Who's money do you refer to as well? Lets clear this up. Were you born like this or was it the environment that made you this way? Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 Were you born like this or was it the environment that made you this way? Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk Probably a bit of both Ms Avenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 Probably a bit of both Ms Avenue. Go speak to someone.... Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 I think that you'll find that Adkins leaving was a shock to most Sainsts fans and most fans of other teams too and the media . You of course, being the know it all that you think you are, knew that it was on the cards. And of course, I never said that formal statements and official press releases are the most reliable sources of information. What I did mean, is that statements released by the club carry more weight regarding our players than wish lists from other clubs who desire to purchase them. Either I don't explain myself very clearly, you're a bit thick, or deliberately obtuse. Probably the latter. There were plenty of rumours about Adkins. You dismissed them as made up journalist rubbish in your traditional pious way, most memorably on the very morning he was sacked. You know you did. And if you think generic statements from clubs carry more weight than a phone call from an agent to a good journo with a solid gold tip off of an imminent big transfer, then fine. Keep reading the match day magazine for "all the hot news from St Mary ' s", then. Or maybe move to North Korea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 There were plenty of rumours about Adkins. You dismissed them as made up journalist rubbish in your traditional pious way, most memorably on the very morning he was sacked. You know you did. And if you think generic statements from clubs carry more weight than a phone call from an agent to a good journo with a solid gold tip off of an imminent big transfer, then fine. Keep reading the match day magazine for "all the hot news from St Mary ' s", then. Or maybe move to North Korea. Adkins going was a huge shock. He'd turned the corner since previous rumours after 2 defeats in 12! Agree with wes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 Probably a bit of both Ms Avenue. So what was so bad in 1975 when you were born?? Was it the EEC referendum of that year? The Labour government under Harold Wilson? Or were you so upset when Saints beat Pompey that year (and the next year) ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 So what was so bad in 1975 when you were born?? Was it the EEC referendum of that year? The Labour government under Harold Wilson? Or were you so upset when Saints beat Pompey that year (and the next year) ?? Oh thats clever that............................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 If a good offer comes in we will sell, like before when we had no money and now when we do have some, we will always sell as we can not sustain the club without doing so. If anybody from the club denies that they are talking ****e, why they cant be honest and simply say that is beyond me, they know it, we know it and the prospective buying clubs knows it. We have done it to smaller clubs for years, would Torquay be able to refuse a £1 Million offer from us? Would they **** and we could not refuse £30 Million from a larger club, selling a player willingly or not is still the same thing, you sell the player. Lets get real. You want the club to release a statement saying that we will sell any player if we receive a good enough offer? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 You want the club to release a statement saying that we will sell any player if we receive a good enough offer? Really? Good idea! Maybe they could also confirm that the notion of finishing in the top six is hilarious nonsense and increasing ST prices for the 'bowl with no soul' is just their little joke with us happy clapping mugs? Maybe then BS will claim his forum crown and retire gracefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 You want the club to release a statement saying that we will sell any player if we receive a good enough offer? Really? Imagine the sh*t storm that would go down if that happened! Barry, you've got some f*cking weird ideas of what you want the club to say and not say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 Adkins going was a huge shock. He'd turned the corner since previous rumours after 2 defeats in 12! Agree with wes. It wasn't a shock, he was a dead man walking since we failed to win the championship title. Some of the 'trolls' spoke about this and we're told we were wrong, he was a great manager and Cortese should stick with him even if we go down. The thing that was a surprise was the timing, half way through the transfer window and as having seemed to have turned the corner I thought he'd be given the season and then replaced in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 It wasn't a shock, he was a dead man walking since we failed to win the championship title. Some of the 'trolls' spoke about this and we're told we were wrong, he was a great manager and Cortese should stick with him even if we go down. The thing that was a surprise was the timing, half way through the transfer window and as having seemed to have turned the corner I thought he'd be given the season and then replaced in the summer. I just thought he was a crap manager, totally out of his depth in the PL and even in tough games in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 I just thought he was a crap manager, totally out of his depth in the PL and even in tough games in the Championship. So totally out of his depth that he got promoted at the first time of asking from the Championship, and was 15th and on an upward spiral at the time of his dismissal in the Premier League. Yep, that sure sounds like someone out of his depth. Definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 I think that you'll find that Adkins leaving was a shock to most Sainsts fans and most fans of other teams too and the media . You of course, being the know it all that you think you are, knew that it was on the cards. And of course, I never said that formal statements and official press releases are the most reliable sources of information. What I did mean, is that statements released by the club carry more weight regarding our players than wish lists from other clubs who desire to purchase them. Either I don't explain myself very clearly, you're a bit thick, or deliberately obtuse. Probably the latter. CB FRY is 'Mr Know it All' as you rightly suggest. In his own little world he is King of all he surveys and quite omnipotent. 'Oh Great One, CBFRY all knowing' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 It wasn't a shock, he was a dead man walking since we failed to win the championship title. Some of the 'trolls' spoke about this and we're told we were wrong, he was a great manager and Cortese should stick with him even if we go down. The thing that was a surprise was the timing, half way through the transfer window and as having seemed to have turned the corner I thought he'd be given the season and then replaced in the summer. The thing that scuppered Adkins was his belief in the 'yo yo' strategy. This was our strategy for the first year and a good one at that but then NC got all ambitious and started talking about building a top 6 club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 (edited) CB FRY is 'Mr Know it All' as you rightly suggest. In his own little world he is King of all he surveys and quite omnipotent. 'Oh Great One, CBFRY all knowing' Code for seeing CBFry has had a valid point all along. Edited 17 April, 2014 by Barry Sanchez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 The thing that scuppered Adkins was his belief in the 'yo yo' strategy. This was our strategy for the first year and a good one at that but then NC got all ambitious and started talking about building a top 6 club. Even by your own low standards, that's a pretty turgid effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 Code for seeing CBFry has had a valid point all along. Well done, that will make CB Fry's week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 Even by your own low standards, that's a pretty turgid effort. Say what you like, the 'yoyo' strategy was very valid in our first few months in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 Say what you like, the 'yoyo' strategy was very valid in our first few months in the Premier League. Do you mean the YOLO strategy? The man in the glass wouldn't stand for anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 Even by your own low standards, that's a pretty turgid effort. The blokes a c**k. Don't know why anybody even try's to reason with his weird logic. He makes Pap's conspiracy theories seem normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 The blokes a c**k. Don't know why anybody even try's to reason with his weird logic. He makes Pap's conspiracy theories seem normal. It's not even logic, it's blatantly just trying to be hilarious by repeating something over and over and over ad nauseam. I wouldn't mind so much if he was actually funny, which is surely the intention. But nope, just the same bland turgid repetitive predictability time and time again. i actually feel a bit sorry for him that he feels he has to put in such a stint of sh*te. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 Imagine the sh*t storm that would go down if that happened! Barry, you've got some f*cking weird ideas of what you want the club to say and not say. Not at all. Barry's idea of what the club should be saying is perfectly simple - they should say whatever they're not saying, and then he'll be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 Not at all. Barry's idea of what the club should be saying is perfectly simple - they should say whatever they're not saying, and then he'll be happy. Yes thats it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 It's not even logic, it's blatantly just trying to be hilarious by repeating something over and over and over ad nauseam. I wouldn't mind so much if he was actually funny, which is surely the intention. But nope, just the same bland turgid repetitive predictability time and time again. i actually feel a bit sorry for him that he feels he has to put in such a stint of sh*te. Say what you like about conspiracy theories etc, it's no skin off my nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 Not at all. Barry's idea of what the club should be saying is perfectly simple - they should say whatever they're not saying, and then he'll be happy. The poor fkr. That's no way to live a life. Can't we as a group help him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 The poor fkr. That's no way to live a life. Can't we as a group help him? Kind of like this, did you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 17 April, 2014 Share Posted 17 April, 2014 Kind of like this, did you mean? I watched the entire manual you posted. Approved, especially the tough love at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 18 April, 2014 Share Posted 18 April, 2014 And if you think generic statements from clubs carry more weight than a phone call from an agent to a good journo with a solid gold tip off of an imminent big transfer, then fine. My God you're naive! Phone calls from agents, eh? You mean the agents with a strong financial interest in getting their players to move to other clubs so that they can get their percentage of the fee? No reason for agents to stir the pot then, no Siree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 18 April, 2014 Share Posted 18 April, 2014 If Manchester United or Liverpool bid for Shaw you dont think if the money was right we would sell? You think Shaw would not want to go? Dont be silly, naive and blind. Where is this money then? They may have it but you have to spend it, where are the indications they will? Have they said? Have I missed something? Who's money do you refer to as well? Lets clear this up. The highlighted bit part is the important bit. I have always said that players we want to keep will only be allowed to go for silly money, as we have no financial need to sell them. Regarding the second part, we will have to wait and see whether money will be spent on taking us to the next step up the ladder. In the meantime, there is no evidence that they won't, is there? Does that clear up your befuddled mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 18 April, 2014 Share Posted 18 April, 2014 Kind of like this, did you mean? What a brilliant show this was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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