Unbelievable Jeff Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 (edited) So, I've been thinking (Football Manager stylee) about our starting team for next season. The challenge is to produce a similar side in ability to this season's, but with a net gain of £30m to pay off debts. Here is my attempt: Players Sold: Shaw - £27m Schneiderlin - £14m Osvaldo - £9m Guly - Free Hooiveld - Free Sharp - Free Money in = £50m Wages Saved: Shaw - £18k p/w Schneiderlin - £37k p/w Osvaldo - £35k p/w Guly - £20k p/w Hooiveld - 18k p/w Sharp - £22k p/w Wages Saved = £150k p/w or £7.8m per year Players in: Marshall - £6m Caulker - £8m Drmic - £6m Money Out - £20m Wages in: Marshall - £25k p/w Caulker - £28k p/w Drmic - £25k p/w Total Wages in: £78k p/w or £4.1m per year Team for next Season: GK - Marshall LB - Clyne CB - Caulker CB - Lovren RB - Chambers CM - Wanyama/JWP CM - Cork CM - Davis AML/2nd ST - Ramirez/JRod AM - Lallana ST - Drmic/Lambert Bench: Boruc Yoshida Fonte Wanyama/JWP Ramirez Reed Drmic/Lambert Obviously this is all prior to J Rod coming back, in which it would change, but I actually don't think this team is too much weaker (if at all) than the one we have now. Shaw will be a miss, but I do think he is starting to be slightly over-rated and anywhere upwards of £25m is a deal. Schneiderlin is obviously great, but as JWP will be in that role eventually, and we have Cork and Wanyama, this position is too heavily populated at the moment. Anyway, that's my opinion on the matter, what does everyone else think? Edited 16 April, 2014 by Unbelievable Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 Who is Drmic? And I'm not sure about signing two players from a side as abysmal as Cardiff, even if they have performed better than the rest. I'd rather we sign performers from higher up, like Davies from Hull. As for Keeper, I'd go for Forster from Celtic - he needs to play in the Prem to get the England jersey that he deserves. By the way I don't agree at all with having Clyne as first choice left back. As a stand in he's fine but it should never be permanent. I don't think Shaw will leave anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 16 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 16 April, 2014 Who is Drmic? And I'm not sure about signing two players from a side as abysmal as Cardiff, even if they have performed better than the rest. I'd rather we sign performers from higher up, like Davies from Hull. As for Keeper, I'd go for Forster from Celtic - he needs to play in the Prem to get the England jersey that he deserves. Drmic is a good player - Swiss player who plays for Nurnberg in Germany, 17 goals this season, 21 years old. Not as keen on Davies, I think Marshall and caulker are improvements on what we have in those positions now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjay Sanchez Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 You would need to sign someone to replace Shaw, playing Clyne out of position would be far from ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 Drmic is a good player - Swiss player who plays for Nurnberg in Germany, 17 goals this season, 21 years old. Not as keen on Davies, I think Marshall and caulker are improvements on what we have in those positions now. I think Marshall is being overrated, people have said he's been putting in these outstanding performances all season...but it was only a month or so ago that he started getting rave reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 16 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 16 April, 2014 You would need to sign someone to replace Shaw, playing Clyne out of position would be far from ideal. I agree it's not ideal, but he has been decent when playing there in the past. I think it's worth trying it, with the fact we have Reeves available as backup if he struggles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 Why do we need to pay off £30m of debt? Unless someone can show me that our operating costs touch £100m that debt just gets paid off by TV money each year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 16 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 16 April, 2014 Why do we need to pay off £30m of debt? Unless someone can show me that our operating costs touch £100m that debt just gets paid off by TV money each year? It's hypothetical, but it looks like we are looking to sell 2 to 3 players to more or less 'balance' the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 I think Marshall is being overrated, people have said he's been putting in these outstanding performances all season...but it was only a month or so ago that he started getting rave reviews. Speroni from Palace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 It's hypothetical, but it looks like we are looking to sell 2 to 3 players to more or less 'balance' the books. Fair enough. I do not believe we are in a poor financial position and need to sell players. I think if anyone leaves it will be because they want to or the club thinks it is a great deal. The concern is that if Pochettino wants further investment and we can't oblige then he may leave and there could be a domino effect with players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 I agree it's not ideal, but he has been decent when playing there in the past. I think it's worth trying it, with the fact we have Reeves available as backup if he struggles. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Reeves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 It's hypothetical, but it looks like we are looking to sell 2 to 3 players to more or less 'balance' the books. That is a HUGE assumption - and I think its wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 It's hypothetical, but it looks like we are looking to sell 2 to 3 players to more or less 'balance' the books. 2 to 3? Shaw alone would probably like put us in profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 According to http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ the following players are out of contract at the end of the season & if I was playing football manager they’d all be on my short list Prem players Seb Larsson Jolen Lescott Anthony Pilkington Nicklad Bendtner Marc Albrighton Lukasz Fabianski Micah Richards Championship Players Kasper Schemichel Chris Eagles Bungesliga Aaron Hunt (wolfsberg) Promera Division Diego (Atheltico Madrid) Mateo Musacchio (Valencia) Ligue 1 Jeremy Menez (PSG) Batetimbi Gomis (Lyon) Guillermo Ochoa (AC Ajaccio) Jimmy Briand (Lyon) Serie A Urby Emmanuelson (Milan) Turkey Manual Fernandes Hugo Almeida Luke Shaw sold for either £30million+ or £25 million & Ryan Bertrand. Spiderman sold for £15million Osvaldo sold for £15million Rameriez sold for £10 million Transfer budget of £12 million Giving me a total transfer budget of around £82 million I’d be looking for Left back to replace shaw Midfielder to replace spiderman Atatcking Midfielder to replace gaston striker Center back Keeper So 6 players in total they would be Left Back - Urby Emmanuelson – Free Center Back - Micah Richards – Free or Steven Caulker Goalkeeper - Kasper Schemichel Or Lukasz Fabianski or Guillermo Ochoa – free Attacking Midfielder - Erik Lemela - £15 million Striker 1 from Loic Remy Wilfred Bony Michu Christian Benteke Danny Welbeck Stevan Jovetic Jimmy Briand Jeremy Menez Center Midfielder 1 from Fabian Delph Aaron Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 16 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 16 April, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Reeves Ha, must have missed that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 Ha, must have missed that... Like everyone else has missed this...? It looks like we are looking to sell 2 to 3 players to more or less 'balance' the books. Thats quite an assumption! On what is it based? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 16 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 16 April, 2014 That is a HUGE assumption - and I think its wrong. Well THEVMAN is meant to be pretty reliable. Anyway, it's a game guys, it's all hypothetical!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 16 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 16 April, 2014 Like everyone else has missed this...? What are you on about? Thats quite an assumption! On what is it based? THEVMAN's comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 16 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 16 April, 2014 According to http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ the following players are out of contract at the end of the season & if I was playing football manager they’d all be on my short list Prem players Seb Larsson Jolen Lescott Anthony Pilkington Nicklad Bendtner Marc Albrighton Lukasz Fabianski Micah Richards Championship Players Kasper Schemichel Chris Eagles Bungesliga Aaron Hunt (wolfsberg) Promera Division Diego (Atheltico Madrid) Mateo Musacchio (Valencia) Ligue 1 Jeremy Menez (PSG) Batetimbi Gomis (Lyon) Guillermo Ochoa (AC Ajaccio) Jimmy Briand (Lyon) Serie A Urby Emmanuelson (Milan) Turkey Manual Fernandes Hugo Almeida Luke Shaw sold for either £30million+ or £25 million & Ryan Bertrand. Spiderman sold for £15million Osvaldo sold for £15million Rameriez sold for £10 million Transfer budget of £12 million Giving me a total transfer budget of around £82 million I’d be looking for Left back to replace shaw Midfielder to replace spiderman Atatcking Midfielder to replace gaston striker Center back Keeper So 6 players in total they would be Left Back - Urby Emmanuelson – Free Center Back - Micah Richards – Free or Steven Caulker Goalkeeper - Kasper Schemichel Or Lukasz Fabianski or Guillermo Ochoa – free Attacking Midfielder - Erik Lemela - £15 million Striker 1 from Loic Remy Wilfred Bony Michu Christian Benteke Danny Welbeck Stevan Jovetic Jimmy Briand Jeremy Menez Center Midfielder 1 from Fabian Delph Aaron Hunt Would love to see some of those players here, although most I can see going to better clubs (Musachio, Richards etc) and some I don't think we'd be able to afford their wages (Remy, Emanuelson etc), but there is a good list there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 What are you on about? THEVMAN's comments. Saints will get around £18m this season in prize money for finishing 8th, they owe £21m in transfers in 2014/15 the former nearly wipes out the later on its own. Not even mentioning the rest of the TV money from the huge 2013 to 2016 deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 16 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 16 April, 2014 Saints will get around £18m this season in prize money for finishing 8th, they owe £21m in transfers in 2014/15. Not even mentioning the rest of the TV money from the huge 2013 to 2016 deal. I am aware of that thanks, it's a hypothetical situation. Effectively it's showing that we can save £30m and not really detract from the team too much. What was your first comment about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 I actually think Shaw will stay - at least until January. Lovren to Man Utd is the transfer that I'm most worried about what with them losing Vidic and Rio. Marshall a definite yes for me, Caulker I'm not so sure about. Don't think he's that much better than Fonte. Would be a good signing if Lovren stays, but should he go I don't think Fonte and Caulker would have enough authority as a CB pairing. Also the possibility that our defence could be: Shaw - Chambers - Lovren - Clyne If it's true that the club see Chambers more as a CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenagegsaint Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 So, I've been thinking (Football Manager stylee) about our starting team for next season. The challenge is to produce a similar side in ability to this season's, but with a net gain of £30m to pay off debts. Here is my attempt: Players Sold: Shaw - £27m Schneiderlin - £14m Osvaldo - £9m Guly - Free Hooiveld - Free Sharp - Free Money in = £50m Wages Saved: Shaw - £18k p/w Schneiderlin - £37k p/w Osvaldo - £35k p/w Guly - £20k p/w Hooiveld - 18k p/w Sharp - £22k p/w Wages Saved = £150k p/w or £7.8m per year Players in: Marshall - £6m Caulker - £8m Drmic - £6m Money Out - £20m Wages in: Marshall - £25k p/w Caulker - £28k p/w Drmic - £25k p/w Total Wages in: £78k p/w or £4.1m per year Team for next Season: GK - Marshall LB - Clyne CB - Caulker CB - Lovren RB - Chambers CM - Wanyama/JWP CM - Cork CM - Davis AML/2nd ST - Ramirez/JRod AM - Lallana ST - Drmic/Lambert Bench: Boruc Yoshida Fonte Wanyama/JWP Ramirez Reed Drmic/Lambert Obviously this is all prior to J Rod coming back, in which it would change, but I actually don't think this team is too much weaker (if at all) than the one we have now. Shaw will be a miss, but I do think he is starting to be slightly over-rated and anywhere upwards of £25m is a deal. Schneiderlin is obviously great, but as JWP will be in that role eventually, and we have Cork and Wanyama, this position is too heavily populated at the moment. Anyway, that's my opinion on the matter, what does everyone else think? Osvaldo is on almost 65k a week and Caulker is on 55k a week at Cardiff, how else do you they think attracted him to some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 I actually think Shaw will stay - at least until January. Lovren to Man Utd is the transfer that I'm most worried about what with them losing Vidic and Rio. Marshall a definite yes for me, Caulker I'm not so sure about. Don't think he's that much better than Fonte. Would be a good signing if Lovren stays, but should he go I don't think Fonte and Caulker would have enough authority as a CB pairing. Also the possibility that our defence could be: Shaw - Chambers - Lovren - Clyne If it's true that the club see Chambers more as a CB Chambers has all the attributes to be an exceptional center back. He reads the game so well and has the height and pace required... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrich Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 Out: Shaw £30m Schneiderlin £15m Ramirez £8m Osvaldo part exchange £53m In: Cresswell £4m Ipswich Holtby £8m Spurs Vela £6m + Osvaldo Real Sociedad Richards free Man City Ruddy £5m Norwich £23m £30m in bank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettIvo Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 I actually think Shaw will stay - at least until January. Lovren to Man Utd is the transfer that I'm most worried about what with them losing Vidic and Rio. Marshall a definite yes for me, Caulker I'm not so sure about. Don't think he's that much better than Fonte. Would be a good signing if Lovren stays, but should he go I don't think Fonte and Caulker would have enough authority as a CB pairing. Also the possibility that our defence could be: Shaw - Chambers - Lovren - Clyne If it's true that the club see Chambers more as a CB Not if he actually wants to play CL next season, although I generally agree with the rest of your thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 16 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 16 April, 2014 Osvaldo is on almost 65k a week and Caulker is on 55k a week at Cardiff, how else do you they think attracted him to some. Osvaldo isn't on that much here. Didn't realise Caulker was on that much, that's ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 Osvaldo isn't on that much here. How do you know? You'll struggle to find any other examples of international strikers for major nations signed for £15m that are only on £35k p/w. Look at the wages he has come from at Roma and the wages of the club he is now on loan at... Juventus. If he really was on only £35k p/w he'd be very much the poor relation among his peers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 Chambers has all the attributes to be an exceptional center back. He reads the game so well and has the height and pace required... If he does not move to CB, then one of him or Clyne is the obvious one to sell to raise cash. Hard to keep them both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 prob the difference is what the bumhole taxman is taking. I dunno how it is with osvaldo but the bumhole taxman is always stealing the lion share of my dollar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 As an aside, what would people think if this was our team on the opening day of the season? Boruc Clyne Fonte Lovren Shaw Wanyama Schneiderlin JWP Lallana Davis Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey88 Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 As an aside, what would people think if this was our team on the opening day of the season? Boruc Clyne Fonte Lovren Shaw Wanyama Schneiderlin JWP Lallana Davis Lambert What would our bench be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Saint Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 It's hypothetical, but it looks like we are looking to sell 2 to 3 players to more or less 'balance' the books. No it does not look like this except in the wild imaginings of the depressed and pessimistic on here. We don't have any debts of any significance. We do have some transfer fee instalments to pay. We are paying in instalments as virtually everyone does - including anyone who buys any of our players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 No it does not look like this except in the wild imaginings of the depressed and pessimistic on here. We don't have any debts of any significance. We do have some transfer fee instalments to pay. We are paying in instalments as virtually everyone does - including anyone who buys any of our players! We do have debts actually, the much vaunted training centre has been racking them up for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 Next seasons side largely depends on next seasons targets. Next seasons targets in football are usually based on doing a bit better than the year before in standard times, or if there is a significant additional investment made then usually an additional raising of targets is normal. In our recent past expectations of promotion to the CCC and EPL in line with the internal investments made were reasonable. Today is different. If there is no significant ie above average investment made in the team then there can be no real justification in expecting any major improvement in on-field performance. And the cost of breaking into the top four is much more expensive than anything we have ever attempted to date, even with the benefit of Billionaire owners and Academy prodigies adding value match by match. If there is no above average on field investment then as sure as eggs is eggs other teams around us will be strengthening relative to us and we will weaken ~ comparatively speaking. Our likely finishing place will be eighth next year - at best - but anywhere from bottom upwards is much more likely than before if that happens. Spending money on new big money players each year is no guarantee, but when you look at the paucity of the squad that we have going into the last 6-8 games this season you should just be relieved we are not in a relegation dog fight as there is nobody on the bench beyond our best 11 that was realistically ever going to save us in which case. We certainly need 5-7 new players in the summer in all the key areas that all the contributors on this site already know about. We got some good young players coming through but we also need some more finished articles if we want to hit the ground running next year. Not maybes or "squad" but bona fide top players that know they have to fight for that starting place - and are used to winning that fight cos they're good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 As an aside, what would people think if this was our team on the opening day of the season? Boruc Clyne Fonte Lovren Shaw Wanyama Schneiderlin JWP Lallana Davis Lambert I'd think we still needed a world class striker with pace. Like I thought in the last two seasons. Not having Rodriguez would just make that all the more important. I don't think we'll be selling anyone, other than possibly Shaw to Chelsea as Cole's past it, Bertrand isn't up to it, and Shaw's a Chelsea fan. We'd get an absolute pile o'cash for that, enough to buy someone very good up front - even allowing for the Osvaldo replacement we're all expecting. We'll probably get what we paid for him if he plays and doesn't do anything massively stupid for Italy in the World Cup. I think Caulker is cack though, we shouldn't be signing players on a par with our second tier players. Marshall I'd have in a second, contrary to a comment above he's been getting great reviews all season long, since Cardiff somehow beat Man City at the start of the season. Still not sure why anyone is worried about our "debt", which would be wiped out by tv payments and was only created in the first place in that knowledge. We're more than sustainable at these levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 As an aside, what would people think if this was our team on the opening day of the season? Boruc Clyne Fonte Lovren Shaw Wanyama Schneiderlin JWP Lallana Davis Lambert I'd be all like "Oi, Di Matteo, I respect that you had a difficult job in following Pochettino, after his appointment by Spurs, but did you HAVE to sell Cork? 'Spect on keeping Morgan, Dejan, Luke and Adz, but not signing anyone was proper stupid. You still got 2 weeks of the transfer window, get it sorted!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 We do have debts actually, the much vaunted training centre has been racking them up for years. Our net debts are approx £1m. It said it in the accounts. Thats peanuts compared to just about any other PL (or FL) team. We do not have to sell anyone to balance the books, and we don't plan to sell anyone that MP does not want to sell according to Ralph. People thinking that selling Spiderman would not weaken our team significantly are basically in cloud cuckoo land. The only players we will plan to lose this summer are probably Guly and Jos and presumably some swap deal or something for Osvaldo. If we sell Shaw it is not to balance the books, its because some club come in with a stupid offer and Shaw is happy to go and then we'd be nuts to turn it down. Unbelievable Jeff is how I would term the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 £9 Million for Osvaldo I just shat me pants, who would buy him for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 £9 Million for Osvaldo I just shat me pants, who would buy him for that? Lots of teams would buy him for that. Italy are not one of the eight WC seeds ( but they should be frankly given that they are not only because they played luxembourg or liechtenstein in a friendly and that f*cked up their fifa coefficient, anyway different argument that), but my point is that if you look at the top seeded nations playing at the WC, and then just value their strikers I'll bet you that very few come in at under £9M transfer value if they are under 30 years of age. The older they get the less transfer value of course, but Osvaldo is only 28 in any case. If you play for a top international country as a striker and are under 30 you don't get bought and sold cheaply. Name a Spanish, German, Brazilian, Argentinian, Uruguyan, Swiss, Columbian or Belgian forward let alone Italian english dutch, french, portoguese, croatian, russian or chilean that's going to play out there yet is available for under £9M, and I could probably find two or more that are worth more.It tends to be the rule not the exception. Osvaldo's current value is £11.5M according to transfer market anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 He obviously is not worth that as no one has proposed to buy him for that?Is it true he is returning to our shores soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 Osvaldo isn't on that much here. Didn't realise Caulker was on that much, that's ridiculous. Osvaldo is on 40k. After the away game at Newcastle, after that incident, he was charged one weeks worth of wages, which was £40,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 Let's remember you said that and add it to your Norwich genius. One has to be wrong now and again, who would buy Osvaldo? He is ****e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 16 April, 2014 Share Posted 16 April, 2014 Richards would be good but think he'll get a club like Liverpool, Arsenal or Everton or Spurs. He wants to play CB and we could offer that though. He's being completely wasted right now. He wasn't perfect but had a lot of good attributes and look at England now, short at CB. Crazy he's not playing every week. Manager's are an odd bunch, Pelligrini obviously thinks Demichellis is better. Lovren/Richards would be excellent though and Fonte/Yoshi as cover sounds pretty good too. If we could make just 2 signings this summer it'd be CB and forward for me. Don't see any reason we'll sell unless a ridiculous offer comes in and a player really wants to go. Think Shaw is the only candidate for that and it'd take £35m minimum. Is he any good at CB? I thought he was predominately a RB, though I can't really remember how good he even is there. I often forget he exists if I'm honest. Can understand why he can't get in at RB, Zabaleta is certainly amongst the best in the league, if not the best. Wouldn't be opposed to him coming here, if that was an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 16 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 16 April, 2014 How do you know? You'll struggle to find any other examples of international strikers for major nations signed for £15m that are only on £35k p/w. Look at the wages he has come from at Roma and the wages of the club he is now on loan at... Juventus. If he really was on only £35k p/w he'd be very much the poor relation among his peers. Here you go: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1909865-pablo-daniel-osvaldo-gets-3-match-ban-fine-for-melee-vs-newcastle-united#articles/1909865-pablo-daniel-osvaldo-gets-3-match-ban-fine-for-melee-vs-newcastle-united Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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