Wes Tender Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Nobody else with any thoughts on the blatant Cardiff handball that should have given us a penalty?
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Too slow, its all very pretty n all but its just not effective without pace out wide (and when the FBs cant cross effectively). They came to nick a win anyway but we made it easy by slowing the game down. Lamberts not mobile enough and Lallana wants too many touches. Ramirez looked good before his standard early exit. The lack of risk taking just lets then get men behind the ball and get compact. We just pass, probe and pass and probe. Movement was terrible too. We really miss Jay Rods direct running. You've saved me typing. Shaw's crossing was awful. Would somebody please tell them that playing the ball back and forwards along the back four is never going to score any goals, and you've only got to miss one pass to put yourselves in trouble. Fonte got caught for pace a few times.
The Cat Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Nobody else with any thoughts on the blatant Cardiff handball that should have given us a penalty? Looked it to me from the corner of the Family Stand.
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Nobody else with any thoughts on the blatant Cardiff handball that should have given us a penalty? So blatant I didn't see it.
obelisk Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Nobody else with any thoughts on the blatant Cardiff handball that should have given us a penalty?Inconclusive on the stream I looked at. Given that Cardiff we so darn poor though I don't think we should be relying on refs to give us anything. All that possession up to the edge of their area and then hardly a shot for Marshall to save. The crossing today was pants on the few occasions we didn't try and stroll through the middle.
St.JonB Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Can't think of anyone that deserves a MotM today. Almost looked like they didn't really care. Cork played well. Would like to say they wanted it more but that was not the case. Hopefully we can come again and get enough points to finish 8th. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
CB Saint Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 We are rubbish against side who sit back and park the bus. We cannot break teams down.
Gaz@Maybush Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Needed a striker in January' date=' especially when Osvaldo left, didn't get one & now reaping what we sowed. Disappointing end to the season.[/quote'] True story mate. Been saying this myself for months
Wrensup Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 (edited) Too slow, its all very pretty n all but its just not effective without pace out wide (and when the FBs cant cross effectively). They came to nick a win anyway but we made it easy by slowing the game down. Lamberts not mobile enough and Lallana wants too many touches. Ramirez looked good before his standard early exit. The lack of risk taking just lets then get men behind the ball and get compact. We just pass, probe and pass and probe. Movement was terrible too. We really miss Jay Rods direct running. This. To many safe passes and no willingness to take a man on. As good as Lallana has been this season, he does like to try the fancy touch when something simple would work. Would have preferred to see cork stay on and see Morgan come off. Too many floated balls in too. And finally we have nothing to come off the bench and change a game.And why did our full insist on cutting inside. Edited 12 April, 2014 by Wrensup
SO16_Saint Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Credit to Cardiff. They soaked up a hell of a lot of pressure before and after the goal
trousers Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Just got back home. Another one of those "how on earth did we lose that?" games. The first half was all about *when* we were going to score, not *if*. So much space in midfield for us but no cutting edge. I haven't read this thread yet but I would imagine the phrase: "That's how much we miss JRod" crops up quite a bit. A few of our players seemed like they were in "don't get myself injured before the world cup" mode. Understandable I suppose given what they witnessed last week. MotM = Cork or Davis Oh well...onto Villa....
corsacar saint Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 No pace, no plan b, having said that we had enough chances to have put the game to bed by half time.. 2nd half was as bad as I have seen in a long while, oh well 3 points at Villa next week.
obelisk Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 MotM = Cork or DavisThought Davis was was indifferent today. Unusually hesitant.
Wrensup Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Anyone see Lambert flail is leg when he went for the ball with Marshall in the first half?
Saints foreva Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 No home wins against West Ham, Sunderland, Aston Villa, Stoke and Cardiff isn't good enough.
supersonic Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 could see this one coming a mile off - i'm not too fussed, fair play to Cardiff and good luck to them for the rest of the season. Haven't seen many posts crying that we're not first on MOTD this week
kpturner Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 After every lost match there are always fans harping on and bemoaning the managers lack of a plan B. Just what is this mythical plan B? What should MP have done differently? I'd love to know.
fanimal Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Just accept xxxx happens occasionally; look at the statistics on the match, then look at Burnley at home (lost 1-0) and Luton at home (lost 2-3) mirror images. If Gaston's shot had gone in then we would have won by many. Cork was excellent, shooting apart, their keeper made 3 very good saves, but what really let us down today was the crossing/final ball. Shame. Oh, and Arsenal are losing 1-0 to Wigan.
Goatboy Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Anyone see Lambert flail is leg when he went for the ball with Marshall in the first half? yep. Pulled out of the challenge.
Window Cleaner Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 After every lost match there are always fans harping on and bemoaning the managers lack of a plan B. Just what is this mythical plan B? What should MP have done differently? I'd love to know. Plans B C D E and F involved sending on the efficient striker that we didn't buy in January because we are in a "difficult finanancial situation". Jeez have those people something to learn about football finances. I thought we played well enough today but had nothing at the sharp end again.
The Kraken Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Just got back home. Another one of those "how on earth did we lose that?" games. The first half was all about *when* we were going to score, not *if*. So much space in midfield for us but no cutting edge. I haven't read this thread yet but I would imagine the phrase: "That's how much we miss JRod" crops up quite a bit. A few of our players seemed like they were in "don't get myself injured before the world cup" mode. Understandable I suppose given what they witnessed last week. MotM = Cork or Davis Oh well...onto Villa.... Blimey, you actually speak some sense when you're not trying to be hilarious.
cellone Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 I'm guessing you didn't go No I watched online as I can't afford the time or readies to go but after having a season ticket for many years until our return to the championship and spunking a wad on many good days out, weekends away I'm not going to cry about it. The result and parts of the second half were pants imho but don't let that stop you being SPecial gAZ.
Mr Dad Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Is it true that Cardiff fans were jeering during the minutes silence? Can't see it mentioned anywhere except on someone's Facebook status. I wouldn't say it was jeering but there was a lot of noise from a few away 'fans' during silence. There was a quick boo from Northam and to be fair away corner and noise stopped. There was also some noise from Kingsland/Chapel area but that might have been people walking up from concourse below. Noise soon stopped and I think it was a respectful silence in the end.
Gaz@Maybush Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 I'm no more special than you mush. Just don't get all negative when we lose. We've all been to loads of aways days (going back to early 80's if you're trying to make a point) and been there through the **** times in championship & league one. But Im not trying to make a point or slag you off. Just telling you to get a grip as we weren't pants, just undone by a good goal and a **** day at the office.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 The worst game I've seen from Saints this season I'm afraid to say and that's saying something given the poor opposition today. Let's face it Cardiff had one shot on target and scored a great goal from it. We must have had 60-70% possession and fannied around with the ball all match. OK, perhaps not all match but large parts. Gazza is a disaster waiting to happen - a complete flapper of a keeper...dreadful really. Lambert and Lallana clearly had Brazil in their sights...(pity there was nobody from the England coaching set-up at SMS today - might have seen a better display) - both were lethargic. Fonte looked dodgy for parts of the game. Overall it matters little in the grand scheme of things, but I pay good money to see my team play better than that TBH.
cellone Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Then I apologise for taking your post the wrong way Gaz but still think the result was pants. I do tend to think of games lost as negatives.
S-Clarke Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 The worst game I've seen from Saints this season I'm afraid to say and that's saying something given the poor opposition today. Let's face it Cardiff had one shot on target and scored a great goal from it. We must have had 60-70% possession and fannied around with the ball all match. OK, perhaps not all match but large parts. Gazza is a disaster waiting to happen - a complete flapper of a keeper...dreadful really. Lambert and Lallana clearly had Brazil in their sights...(pity there was nobody from the England coaching set-up at SMS today - might have seen a better display) - both were lethargic. Fonte looked dodgy for parts of the game. Overall it matters little in the grand scheme of things, but I pay good money to see my team play better than that TBH. Ray Lewington was there. Neither did themselves any favours today, although Lallana is most definitely assured a place anyway.
Saint_clark Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Mistake playing all 3 of Lallana, Ramirez and Lambert. Everyone looking to create and no-one getting on the end of it. Needed Gallagher in there for one of them. Clyne should have come on a lot earlier for Chambers as well, who never really got into the game.
S-Clarke Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Mistake playing all 3 of Lallana, Ramirez and Lambert. Everyone looking to create and no-one getting on the end of it. Needed Gallagher in there for one of them. Clyne should have come on a lot earlier for Chambers as well, who never really got into the game. I think the only reason people are suggesting young Gallagher is because he's our only option, I personally don't think he's ready for this level yet. Not seen anything from him to suggest he is, yet. The issue is that we don't have a squad.
kpturner Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 The worst game I've seen from Saints this season. You didn't watch Sunderland away in the cup then?
trousers Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Blimey, you actually speak some sense when you're not trying to be hilarious. I share my account with Bobby Davro
Goatboy Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Nice to see Saints all wearing JRod's number on their warm up shirts. Or were they predicting our finishing position?
skintsaint Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Just got home. Pretty toothless performance. Think there keeper only had to make two decent saves. The others were all at him...Fullbacks got forward well but no final ball. Another visit to St Mary's ...another loss lol Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk
Window Cleaner Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 I think the only reason people are suggesting young Gallagher is because he's our only option, I personally don't think he's ready for this level yet. Not seen anything from him to suggest he is, yet. The issue is that we don't have a squad. When Gallagher started against Arsenal he looked lively, that might have been because he was playing with JRod and not instead of him. Today I thought he offered very little in his 25 minutes on the pitch.
70's Mike Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Funny thing is for a lot of our life in the top flight we would have been the team at this time of the season desperate for the win, things have changed for the better
pangy Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Missed a bit of the 2nd half but Clyne looked threatening going forward and seemed to offer much more than Chambers did Gazza did ok I felt,had a couple of saves to make and did them well On another note Zaha looked a handful when he came on,gave Fonte a tough old time HCDAJFU imo
Bordeaux Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 This in the Guardian, one of the better and quicker online papers for footy on Saturday evenings... "For the first hour of this match, Southampton produced a typically effervescent display. Each attack resembled a magician's trick, with speed, illusion and sleight of foot outfoxing their hopeless opponents. When you thought the ball was heading left, it went right. When you thought Lambert would take a touch and assess his options, he instinctively feed a deft flick to Lallana, who had somehow ghosted into the penalty area. Critically, however, the Saints did not score..." We play lovely footy, and because I like the beautiful game because it's a beautiful game, this is the sort of thing I'd like to be reading about my team. Them's as can enjoy watching the scores come in on sky soccer saturday and think they're watching football won't agree — but more fool them. have a good evening one and all )
Saints foreva Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 On another note Zaha looked a handful when he came on,gave Fonte a tough old time HCDAJFU imo He's struggling to get a start for a side who will probably get relegated this season...
Dalek2003 Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 This in the Guardian, one of the better and quicker online papers for footy on Saturday evenings... "For the first hour of this match, Southampton produced a typically effervescent display. Each attack resembled a magician's trick, with speed, illusion and sleight of foot outfoxing their hopeless opponents. When you thought the ball was heading left, it went right. When you thought Lambert would take a touch and assess his options, he instinctively feed a deft flick to Lallana, who had somehow ghosted into the penalty area. Critically, however, the Saints did not score..." We play lovely footy, and because I like the beautiful game because it's a beautiful game, this is the sort of thing I'd like to be reading about my team. Them's as can enjoy watching the scores come in on sky soccer saturday and think they're watching football won't agree — but more fool them. have a good evening one and all ) In a nutshell, 'All style and no substance'. It's points on the board that counts.
Easty Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Dire. Lacked pace. Shaw's crossing and final ball in particular were poor. Lambert dire. Lallana poor. Too many passengers. No, they lacked someone that could stick the friggin ball in the net, apart from that, and the ****e defensive balls up, the game was good.
kitch Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Sums it up for me. Still gripes when you go to watch your team and they lose, but on the whole things are still great.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 All froth and no beer. No urgency until clyne came on. Ran out of ideas and why the ****ing hell don't we shoot.
pangy Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 (edited) He's struggling to get a start for a side who will probably get relegated this season... Still looked handy when he came on regardless,there is no doubt he has massive potential he just needs the right training/team/ to bring the best out of him Edited 12 April, 2014 by pangy
Bordeaux Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 In a nutshell, 'All style and no substance'. It's points on the board that counts. I contest that style IS substance - it's my whole point about what football actually is I also contest that if it's only points on the board which count, then you're not football fan, you're a statistician
iansums Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 This in the Guardian, one of the better and quicker online papers for footy on Saturday evenings... "For the first hour of this match, Southampton produced a typically effervescent display. Each attack resembled a magician's trick, with speed, illusion and sleight of foot outfoxing their hopeless opponents. When you thought the ball was heading left, it went right. When you thought Lambert would take a touch and assess his options, he instinctively feed a deft flick to Lallana, who had somehow ghosted into the penalty area. Critically, however, the Saints did not score..." We play lovely footy, and because I like the beautiful game because it's a beautiful game, this is the sort of thing I'd like to be reading about my team. Them's as can enjoy watching the scores come in on sky soccer saturday and think they're watching football won't agree — but more fool them. have a good evening one and all ) Great post this. Its always disappointing to lose and clearly we have problems with squad depth but once again we were great to watch in the first half. We just lacked that clinical finish. If we could get 2 or 3 quality signings in the Summer and hold onto the players we've got then we could see further improvement next season. Sent from my XT1032 using Tapatalk
skintsaint Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Still looked handy when he came on regardless,there is no doubt he has massive potential he just needs the right training/team/ to bring the best out of him Well he has pace so when Cardiff launched the ball long when we had committed players forward he would look useful. He isn't worth the money paid for him or the money it would cost to buy him. Their small left winger looked tidy though. Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk
LostBoys Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 wtf played them off the park to be let down by the worst final ball/cross all season. What was Chambers doing heading a simple clearance there. Very disappointed whereas i was upbeat at Manchester last week.
corky morris Posted 12 April, 2014 Posted 12 April, 2014 Just got in. Well that was rubbish! I predicted we would lose. Waaaaay to slow. Cant think of a player that played well. Thought Chambers had another poor game. Why didnt he head it away rather than back into the middle? Ramirez has some quality, but has failed to show it for quite a while. Davis was poor too. Zaha showed us what we desperately need, PACE!!!!! MP has to take some responsibility today. Cardiff came to defend & Clyne is a lot better going forward than Chambers & every bit as good a defender. Bit fed up tonight!!
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