S-Clarke Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Suprising, that. Wonder if Saints might just announce a new Manager and pretend MP was ever here! I get a feeling they're running around not really knowing what to do, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Honestly, we earned nigh on 80 million £ from the PL last season, round about 20 million in ticket sales plus the other bits and bobs. If the board can't give the manager a decent operating budget out of all that then I hope they have a bloody good reason. How do you know that they haven't? Isn't it possible that he just wants to be at "a big club" regardless of our Board's transfer budget commitment and regardless of their commitment not to sell players that he wants to keep? Isn't possible that they've been doing everything they can behind the scenes to keep him but he's got his heart set on being somewhere else? I hope Pochettino stays but he's lost a lot of my respect because - even though he's under contract - he's placed his own interests first and the club's interests nowhere in sight. If he does go to Spurs, the reaction to him on here will be venomous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratio_decidendi Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Well, coming from Simon Peach, I suppose it's cheerio Mauricio! We hardly knew ye... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 The most recent news was that there were internal splits on the spurs board, some wanting MP, others not. sounds like the ideal job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 26 May, 2014 I get a feeling they're running around not really knowing what to do, to be honest. Someone will accuse you of being a Pompey fan in a minute. Spot on though, this scenario has been obvious for 2 months but all we have ever been told is that Saints were "comfortable." FFS. The way we have let it play out is very tinpot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Gah not Spurs. If/when he goes i wonder who we will get, and if they can prevent the exodus of those who love(d) playing for MP. Dooomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 YAY... @SimonPeach: I understand #SaintsFC manager Mauricio Pochettino is in advanced talks to become #THFC boss. Looks like he's on his way then. Ho hum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suomi Saint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Well, if he leaves then he leaves...so what? I'd rather have a Manager who wants to be here - like Nigel for example. Same goes with the players. Shaw may think it's amusing making his tweets, but will he find it amusing sitting on the United bench in the pouring rain? Look lads and lasses, we all enjoyed League 1, so why can't we just enjoy whatever the new season brings us - even if we have to field the whole U21 side, which seems increasingly likely. MP is a good manager, no doubt, but he doesn't want us and we must learn to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 YAY... @SimonPeach: I understand #SaintsFC manager Mauricio Pochettino is in advanced talks to become #THFC boss. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 I don't care how many times I have said it, "The Dream " died when KL told Cortese that she would NOT continue Funding at previous levels THAT is why Cortese left, and THAT is the main reason why Pochettino will follow He owes NO allegiance to KL The effect(s) of those happenings won't be long in materialising IMHO Yep, have to agree with this, sadly. Also agree with Viking that MoPo is a complete tw*t if he thinks he can make the Spurs job work with Levy on his back where so many others have so catastrophically failed. He'll be gone by Xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 I get a feeling they're running around not really knowing what to do, to be honest. The board has been totally inept. Heads should roll, if MP goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Isn't Jim White the sky presenter who got a nice little holiday with an exclusive Cortese interview at a training camp? Sent from my LG-D802 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 I get a feeling they're running around not really knowing what to do, to be honest. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 How do you know that they haven't? Isn't it possible that he just wants to be at "a big club" regardless of our Board's transfer budget commitment and regardless of their commitment not to sell players that he wants to keep? Isn't possible that they've been doing everything they can behind the scenes to keep him but he's got his heart set on being somewhere else? I hope Pochettino stays but he's lost a lot of my respect because - even though he's under contract - he's placed his own interests first and the club's interests nowhere in sight. If he does go to Spurs, the reaction to him on here will be venomous. Agree with all of that, apart from the "venemous" bit, probably going a bit too far there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Someone will accuse you of being a Pompey fan in a minute. Spot on though, this scenario has been obvious for 2 months but all we have ever been told is that Saints were "comfortable." FFS. The way we have let it play out is very tinpot. This. With Cortese out of the picture, people like Daniel Levy see clubs like ours in their 'rightful place', bend them over and bully them for their assets. The players all clearly loved working for Poch too. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 saint charlie......why, oh why are you such a drama queen? What the hell is the club meant to have done? Pochettino has behaved very poorly and I no longer want him at the club even if THFC does not come off. He has clearly shown he cannot be trusted and good riddance: hopefully we can appoint a good manager to continue our progress. Remember how after Adkins was sacked this forum went into meltdown and we were doomed? That didn't happen and I don't believe it will happen if/when Pochettino goes. Whatever happens we need to appoint a young, ambitious, hungry manager who can continue our progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 This. With Cortese out of the picture, people like Daniel Levy see clubs like ours in their 'rightful place', bend them over and bully them for their assets. The players all clearly loved working for Poch too. Shame. What exactly should the board/club have done instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 The players all clearly loved working for Poch too. Shame. The floodgates are about to open.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Someone will accuse you of being a Pompey fan in a minute. Spot on though, this scenario has been obvious for 2 months but all we have ever been told is that Saints were "comfortable." FFS. The way we have let it play out is very tinpot. To be honest, I'm pretty open minded about stuff usually, but from afar we just look utterly rudderless with no idea what to do. All the waffle played out by Reed ''We're calm, we're always talking'' and ditto for RK, then silence. And then off goes the manager to another club. Always will be eternally grateful to ML and KL for what they've done in this club, but you only have to glance one eye at what KL did with the Mali businesses to get a little worried. (A complete downsize in operations for a start, and lots of quotes from staff saying that the new management were wandering around like headless chickens) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Well if he goes then our ambition clearly does not match his anymore. Not impressed at all by the new board. Unless we get a decent replacement in we will seriously struggle next season, if the reported player exodus is to be believed. Shame, we could have really pushed on next season. (This is all of course if he goes!) Maybe his ambition was always more than saints? I'm still lost MP tells us to f uck off, because he wants to go else where, despite us offering him a new contract and the board publically saying they won't sell any player MP doesn't want to sell. Yet no one is ****ed with MP because it's all the boards fault? F ucking mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suomi Saint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 As one poster said...............he'll be gone by Christmas. Silly man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Maybe his ambition was always more than saints? I'm still lost MP tells us to f uck off, because he wants to go else where, despite us offering him a new contract and the board publically saying they won't sell any player MP doesn't want to sell. Yet no one is ****ed with MP because it's all the boards fault? F ucking mental. Were you born yesterday? Sorry to break it to you but they're called football platitudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Maybe his ambition was always more than saints? I'm still lost MP tells us to f uck off, because he wants to go else where, despite us offering him a new contract and the board publically saying they won't sell any player MP doesn't want to sell. Yet no one is ****ed with MP because it's all the boards fault? F ucking mental. Remember, this is SaintsWeb, that's standard behaviour on here. No-one has stated a plausible example of what else the club should have done so far this summer to keep everyone happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 26 May, 2014 What the hell is the club meant to have done?. Im not a drama queen, looks like I was right about the MP situation from a few weeks ago. As for the question above, I don't know where to start. But...do the likes of Krueger and Rogers really deserve their positions at the helm of a PL football club? Do they have any track record to suggest they qualify? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 The board has been totally inept. Heads should roll, if MP goes. Absolutely, they've been told enough times by players what needs to be done. Just clueless, all they want is to have a maximum number of kids in the Unders England sides so that Les Reed can get an OBE or something for services to English football, (oh and probably spend a minimum of money and make a maximum profit). Probably why Dodd and Williams got the boot, only 1 player in the England U17s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 I hope the clappies STFU with their continual abuse of those who dare to express concern about the summer from now on, seeing as Phase 1 of our new decline is about to take effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Remember, this is SaintsWeb, that's standard behaviour on here. No-one has stated a plausible example of what else the club should have done so far this summer to keep everyone happy. And you're making a heap of assumptions -about the conditions offered to MP. As you say, this is Saintsweb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/9326877/premier-league-tottenham-determined-to-make-mauricio-pochettino-their-new-manager Pretty much done and dusted, I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Test of our board will be just how quickly, and of what calibre replacement comes in. If we get a statement saying 'we'll now start the search for a new manager' I'll be mightily ****ed off. Surely they'd have ideas on a replacement already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 To be honest, I'm pretty open minded about stuff usually, but from afar we just look utterly rudderless with no idea what to do. All the waffle played out by Reed ''We're calm, we're always talking'' and ditto for RK, then silence. And then off goes the manager to another club. Always will be eternally grateful to ML and KL for what they've done in this club, but you only have to glance one eye at what KL did with the Mali businesses to get a little worried. (A complete downsize in operations for a start, and lots of quotes from staff saying that the new management were wandering around like headless chickens) Surely its MP who has constantly refused to talk contracts with board not the other way around maybe MP was telling the board he was comfortable and going nowhere while planning to leave the whole time. I suppose the board could have done an NC and just got a new manager in and then mugged MP off, like NC did with Adkins, but then they would have been slated for that to. It's not the board or Saints that have come off looking like ****s in all of this but Mopo IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 And you're making a heap of assumptions -about the conditions offered to MP. As you say, this is Saintsweb. I'm not the one making assumptions, that's the whole point, none of us know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Were you born yesterday? Sorry to break it to you but they're called football platitudes. Well the new board or on a hiding to nothing then if we assume everything they say is a lie..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Test of our board will be just how quickly, and of what calibre replacement comes in. If we get a statement saying 'we'll now start the search for a new manager' I'll be mightily ****ed off. Surely they'd have ideas on a replacement already. I really think we will get a statement just like that. The moment MP hesitated signing a new contract (if there was one) we should have been looking for potential replacements. Let's hope we have, but I fear not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Test of our board will be just how quickly, and of what calibre replacement comes in. If we get a statement saying 'we'll now start the search for a new manager' I'll be mightily ****ed off. Surely they'd have ideas on a replacement already. Dont forget: "lots of applications" "few irons in the fire" "not going to rush, going to take our time to get the right man" before appointing someone like Sturrock or Gray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Test of our board will be just how quickly, and of what calibre replacement comes in. If we get a statement saying 'we'll now start the search for a new manager' I'll be mightily ****ed off. Surely they'd have ideas on a replacement already. You'd expect them to issue a statement saying "we've been looking for a new manager for the last few weeks"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 He gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Not sure why people blame Pochettino? Pretty sure he would have stayed had the conditions been to his liking. After doing a great job with an 8/10 squad why would he want to stay and work with what in all liklihood will be a lesser squad. Football is a cut throat industry and he worked his balls off and did a great job whilst here. Would I want him to fail at Spurs? No. More bothered about our hierarchy than MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 I wish him nothing but failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Surely its MP who has constantly refused to talk contracts with board not the other way around maybe MP was telling the board he was comfortable and going nowhere while planning to leave the whole time. I suppose the board could have done an NC and just got a new manager in and then mugged MP off, like NC did with Adkins, but then they would have been slated for that to. It's not the board or Saints that have come off looking like ****s in all of this but Mopo IMO. Can you not see that it's not about contracts, it's about ambition. What's the point of a 5 year contract at 80K a week if it's to have a choice between 2 not very good academy kids at GK or CB or whatever. MP would have stayed with us (and still might) if the board had been willing to spend what is necessary not to have the awful Gazzaniga in goal ever again, not to have to play Jos accident waiting to happen Hooiveld and not have a 19 year old leggy bambi poncing about at CF because you have no other choice. Any manager worth the name would reject those conditions if he had a better offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 If he goes then I will lay the blame purely at Les Reeds door. >> I wouldnt be suprised if he procrastinated once to often in making a decision to get Him signed up from us The important aspect in this for me is their is no word from Saints , every thing is coming from the spuds, may be they are just throwing out etc bait as they can not land their man , and Mopo is their last hope of getting a decent manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 He's mental going there, he'll be sacked by Christmas if they are not in contention for the top 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 I wish him nothing but failure. Yep, he's been a complete dishonest c**t. Nevertheless, I blame the board and KL. She ousted Cortese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 What exactly should the board/club have done instead? Realised Cortese's role in the rise of SFC over recent years and done everything they possibly could to keep him at the club, even if that meant offering a huge kitty over the summer for Pochettino to build on success rather than pander to the "Big Clubs". Losing the most business savvy hardest negotiating Exec Chairman in the league was always going to end in tears IMO. Really hope I'm proved wrong, absolutely loved the past 5 years & just hope this isn't a massive step in the wrong direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Huge, huge decision. Hopefully they will make a good one, because if they don't then we could get relegated next season. Too late. They have already made one Major decision, no more funding at the level MARKUS envisaged. That meant that the "Project" as sold by Cortese to Pochettino was no longer there, because KL made that clear to Cortese Cortese wanted to continue building SFC into a BIG Football Club. So when KL told him that wasn't going to happen, Cortese left Pochettino was sold the "Project" by Cortese, but when that was turned into dust by KL, Pochettino had no allegiance to KL So Pochettino looked for a Club who DO have BIG aspirations I don't blame him one bit Definitely OUR loss, as the starting line up for next season will prove ( I see Liverpool have managed to keep hold of their Manager, so it can be done ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suomi Saint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 The new Board is all fur coat and no knickers......................Still, life goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Dont forget: "lots of applications" "few irons in the fire" "not going to rush, going to take our time to get the right man" before appointing someone like Sturrock or Gray. Les Reed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 You'd expect them to issue a statement saying "we've been looking for a new manager for the last few weeks"? As long as come August they don't wheel out Hunter and tell me he's "the right man for the job" there's plenty of time yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real saint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Viking the only sensible post i seen trawling through this **** on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Realised Cortese's role in the rise of SFC over recent years and done everything they possibly could to keep him at the club, even if that meant offering a huge kitty over the summer for Pochettino to build on success rather than pander to the "Big Clubs". Losing the most business savvy hardest negotiating Exec Chairman in the league was always going to end in tears IMO. Really hope I'm proved wrong, absolutely loved the past 5 years & just hope this isn't a massive step in the wrong direction. Yep. The writing was on the wall, probably since the Velden trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 I'm not the one making assumptions, that's the whole point, none of us know. Of course, you are - you are claiming that you don't know what else the board could have done to keep everyone happy. That the board has done everything it can. That's a massive assumption when we're in the dark about its ambitions and spending plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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