itchen_dan Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Whatever the truth of this situation, as far as Saints fans on here are concerned Pochettino is looking more and more like a traitor to the Saints cause. Should he stay many on here will continue to harbour dark feelings towards the man because he didn't come out on Day 1 after the ManUre game and state his loyalty to Saints. Whether this is true or not he will be regarded by many as only having stayed as second choice. Would he then be held in the same affection as before? Once goods are tarnished goods its hard to go back to how things were before. If many of the rumours are true about his hesitancy to re-sign for Saints because of possible other offers maybe it is best he moves on now? Agree with what you said. Traitor is a strong word but dis-loyal / unsure springs to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Unconfirmed no idea if true supposedly from Mike Vimpany at the Echo. Pochettino signed 3 year deal with Saints to be announced at 12 today. Prob a load of rubbish. no, he is set for spurs, according to the well informed print media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Whatever the truth of this situation, as far as Saints fans on here are concerned Pochettino is looking more and more like a traitor to the Saints cause. Should he stay many on here will continue to harbour dark feelings towards the man because he didn't come out on Day 1 after the ManUre game and state his loyalty to Saints. Whether this is true or not he will be regarded by many as only having stayed as second choice. Would he then be held in the same affection as before? Once goods are tarnished goods its hard to go back to how things were before. If many of the rumours are true about his hesitancy to re-sign for Saints because of possible other offers maybe it is best he moves on now? Traitor to the Saints cause? Grow up you mong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 If he does go to spurs. I wonder if he'll treat the Europa league with the disdain he treated cup competitions here at saints? After all, he has vocally expressed his dislike of the Europa league on more than one occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneysaint17 Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Where is this Mike Vimpany comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Whatever the truth of this situation, as far as Saints fans on here are concerned Pochettino is looking more and more like a traitor to the Saints cause. Should he stay many on here will continue to harbour dark feelings towards the man because he didn't come out on Day 1 after the ManUre game and state his loyalty to Saints. Whether this is true or not he will be regarded by many as only having stayed as second choice. Would he then be held in the same affection as before? Once goods are tarnished goods its hard to go back to how things were before. If many of the rumours are true about his hesitancy to re-sign for Saints because of possible other offers maybe it is best he moves on now? Youve decided hes a traitor based on paper waffle, a bunch of bed-wetters on here and no evidence ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett24 Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Source afraid it's twitter! But guy is pretty confident. More then likely it's rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 no, he is set for spurs, according to the well informed print media Oxymoron! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 He's going, he's staying, he's going, he's staying, he's going, he's staying. Is that where we are this morning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 no, he is set for spurs, according to the well informed print media Sounds like a contradiction in terms to me. Usually the press don't print any facts that they might get hold of because of embargoes placed on them by sources. Remember also the Press are based in London and the North West so their pals and agendas are always likely to be local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Whatever the truth of this situation, as far as Saints fans on here are concerned Pochettino is looking more and more like a traitor to the Saints cause. Should he stay many on here will continue to harbour dark feelings towards the man because he didn't come out on Day 1 after the ManUre game and state his loyalty to Saints. Whether this is true or not he will be regarded by many as only having stayed as second choice. Would he then be held in the same affection as before? Once goods are tarnished goods its hard to go back to how things were before. If many of the rumours are true about his hesitancy to re-sign for Saints because of possible other offers maybe it is best he moves on now? Only by a few over reactionaries... He came out and made a clear statement - he was surprised at the obsession he over contracts when he had over a year to go... He up tracked to the club and he would sit down and discuss the issue after the end of the season... He will want to know the plan before extending his contract which is common sense let alone fair given what happened at Espanyol. if he goes, tin will be because we cannot guarantee he will have the resources to progress from this season. And I for new could not blame him under those circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 do you not think that ralph will have a huge part to play? jesus christ Not particularly. He's clearly been brought in to work on the commercial side of the business and Les Reed made a very deliberate point in his statement of stating he was responsible for football related matters at board room level. The fact RK isn't even in the country would tend to suggest he doesn't have a big role to play either. It will be LR and, far more importantly, KL who will convince MP to stay IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 The person was @thepublocal but has now deleted original tweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 (edited) Source afraid it's twitter! But guy is pretty confident. More then likely it's rubbish. A guy called Ekelund24 Or perhaps @thepublocal even! Edited 26 May, 2014 by Suhari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 (edited) Whatever the truth of this situation, as far as Saints fans on here are concerned Pochettino is looking more and more like a traitor to the Saints cause. Should he stay many on here will continue to harbour dark feelings towards the man because he didn't come out on Day 1 after the ManUre game and state his loyalty to Saints. Whether this is true or not he will be regarded by many as only having stayed as second choice. Would he then be held in the same affection as before? Once goods are tarnished goods its hard to go back to how things were before. If many of the rumours are true about his hesitancy to re-sign for Saints because of possible other offers maybe it is best he moves on now? Agree that Poch has been quite machiavelian about the whole situation and it leaves a bit of a bad taste. Could have been handled much better by the board if they made it be known publicly that Poch has been offered a new deal, as he wouldn't have been afforded quite so much wriggle room in his pressers. While it might have looked bad if he rejected us at least the board would be seen to act decisively. As it stands the whole stand-off is just eating into plans for the summer, and the later it drags on the more upheaval it will cause. I'm sure I'd get over it if Poch signs a new three-year deal or whatever, but would be nice for him to act in the best interests of the club and not be so transparently political about things. Not a traitor though, as the situation at Saints has completely changed from when he first arrived. Edited 26 May, 2014 by Toon Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Going 87% Staying 13% IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 If it is from Mike Vimpany he has plenty of contacts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 As much as Moyes rep. was crushed to smithereens this year, he's not turned into a bad manager overnight. A lot of it was simply the inconceivable mess that SAF left for him, but he did a good job messing it about some more tbf. But Moyes is a fit for our sort of club - never going to be a mega club, not going to be splashing £30m on signings etc - we'd need a manager who can pull out a few gems every now and then, and Moyes had a good record of working in quite difficult financial conditions at Everton. Brought through the likes of Coleman, Barkley, Rooney to name just a few as well. Personally if the worst does happen, we could do a hell of a lot worse than Moyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Source afraid it's twitter! I still don't understand why people say the source is "twitter". Twitter can be a good source and a bad source, it can range from the actual person, to someone with credibility in the industry or press, to a complete random person on a wind up anywhere in the world. Who on Twitter said it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Whatever the truth of this situation, as far as Saints fans on here are concerned Pochettino is looking more and more like a traitor to the Saints cause. Should he stay many on here will continue to harbour dark feelings towards the man because he didn't come out on Day 1 after the ManUre game and state his loyalty to Saints. Whether this is true or not he will be regarded by many as only having stayed as second choice. Would he then be held in the same affection as before? Once goods are tarnished goods its hard to go back to how things were before. If many of the rumours are true about his hesitancy to re-sign for Saints because of possible other offers maybe it is best he moves on now? Are you serious ?....... Behave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Whatever the truth of this situation, as far as Saints fans on here are concerned Pochettino is looking more and more like a traitor to the Saints cause. Oh come on the man is an employee of the club, a top asset that they should be doing everything they can to keep but to dress it up in some evangelical cause is ridiculous. If he stays excellent, if he goes then lets just thank him, wish him well and move on. There are plenty more managers around who would like a go a managing Saints. Frankly football clubs do not deserve any loyalty from their managers. 4 defeats in a row in November would probably see MP on his way and he knows it. Until football has some integrity and starts honouring their contracts we really cannot expect anything else. Players are different the club invests in them and they have a responsibility to honour a contract they sign, just as the clubs do. If they don't then the club gets ridiculous amounts of money in compensation. Seems fair enough to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Whatever the truth of this situation, as far as Saints fans on here are concerned Pochettino is looking more and more like a traitor to the Saints cause. Should he stay many on here will continue to harbour dark feelings towards the man because he didn't come out on Day 1 after the ManUre game and state his loyalty to Saints. Whether this is true or not he will be regarded by many as only having stayed as second choice. Would he then be held in the same affection as before? Once goods are tarnished goods its hard to go back to how things were before. If many of the rumours are true about his hesitancy to re-sign for Saints because of possible other offers maybe it is best he moves on now? Isn't this a bit OTT? What do we actually KNOW as opposed to believe? Many reports of Spurs wanting him. Does Levy really want him? Has he been approached? Does he want to go there? Is biding his time? I don't KNOW the answer to any of these questions. What I do KNOW is that Les Reed said that said that they were comfortable with the situation and that he and MP were/are planning next season (inc. transfer targets etc). Also MP has said a number of times that he has a year left on his contract and cannot understand what the fuss is all about. Will he stay or go? I don't know......but I don't believe that everything printed in the press is gospel either Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChudSaint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Going 87% Staying 13% IMO. Positive from you Charlie, thought he'd gone weeks ago Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisspahars Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Given the current market I will eat my own spleen if he announces he's signed a new deal with us at 12 O'Clock.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Positive from you Charlie, thought he'd gone weeks ago Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Hmm. Maybe 13% is too generous. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 As much as Moyes rep. was crushed to smithereens this year, he's not turned into a bad manager overnight. A lot of it was simply the inconceivable mess that SAF left for him, but he did a good job messing it about some more tbf. But Moyes is a fit for our sort of club - never going to be a mega club, not going to be splashing £30m on signings etc - we'd need a manager who can pull out a few gems every now and then, and Moyes had a good record of working in quite difficult financial conditions at Everton. Brought through the likes of Coleman, Barkley, Rooney to name just a few as well. Personally if the worst does happen, we could do a hell of a lot worse than Moyes. He's turned us down before... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/1361451.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Personally if the worst does happen, we could do a hell of a lot worse than Moyes. This. I'd take a manager with a burning desire to get his rep back over a potentially risky foreign coach. Moyes is well used to navigating the top half of the table - Right now, if we are to see an exodus, I'd bite your hand off for a bit of stability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 IMO Pochettino is becoming a bit overrated. He is clearly an exellent coach and he has great man managment skills. Tactically, I would say he has potential to be one of the best, but he still has a lot to learn. Will Spurs give him time to develop? I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 It's not just about good and bad managers, it's about the right fit. I don't think Moyes fits us at all. He'd fit Newcastle I imagine. He's not a brave manager, his caution doesn't fit with giving loads of youngsters a chance or playing decent attacking possession football. He'd be a complete culture change when we need continuity. Agree completely, Moyes would be an awful fit with Saints approach. Newcastle/Sunderland are where i'd expect his style to fit in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 26 May, 2014 IMO Pochettino is becoming a bit overrated. He is clearly an exellent coach and he has great man managment skills. Tactically, I would say he has potential to be one of the best, but he still has a lot to learn. Will Spurs give him time to develop? I doubt it. He will do a great job there because he is a class Manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 I think MP will see the final year of his contract out and then move on. Didn't NC say recently that MP has carefully planned his future which I interpret we were his three year stepping stone and then I think he will get a massive club in Europe, if his track record stays the same, let's face it next season could be a let down and teams won't be so surprised with our game plan. That's a long time as a prem manager these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 I think MP will see the final year of his contract out and then move on. Didn't NC say recently that MP has carefully planned his future which I interpret we were his three year stepping stone and then I think he will get a massive club in Europe, if his track record stays the same, let's face it next season could be a let down and teams won't be so surprised with our game plan. That's a long time as a prem manager these days Depends on what he has been told by the board doesn't it? If he fears that we will sell 2-3 of our best players and not get adequate funds to replace them then overseeing a bottom-half finish with us might put his career back as well. Obviously the Spurs job comes with its own risks, and I'd venture that we'd offer a lot more job security than them, but Poch would back himself to succeed there if he feels they are the club to match his ambitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 First name terms eh ? Its amazing how a brief encounter can turn a mans head lol. I asked him if it was ok to address him using his first name - he said Yes. Sorry if that irritates you, if you were brave enough to introduce yourself to me I would call you by your first name! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Flying Finn Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 He's now 1/5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 What happened to his other 80%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Did he sign at 12 or did I miss it. . O:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiseone Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Just renewed my season ticket...let the exodus begin.!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 The person was @thepublocal but has now deleted original tweet. This is me. My dad is in the cricket circles and Mike Vimpany told him this last night. Purely passing it on. I deleted the tweet coz i couldn't deal with the amount of notifications! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 This is me. My dad is in the cricket circles and Mike Vimpany told him this last night. Purely passing it on. I deleted the tweet coz i couldn't deal with the amount of notifications! What did vimpany say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 He's now 1/5. That's based on the bets that have been placed. Most if those will be those who believe the press stories. Means nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 What did vimpany say? "He signed at midday and would be announced today" Don't shoot the messenger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 "He signed at midday and would be announced today" Don't shoot the messenger! Signed for Spurs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 I still belief MP will continue to be our manager I find it really sad that someone can be called a traitor purely on hystria and misinformation as the saying goes Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. clearly we have a fair few ravenous wolves on this forum however it is a sad world we live in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Flying Finn Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 That's based on the bets that have been placed. Most if those will be those who believe the press stories. Means nothing. It was merely giving a price update on him as he had considerably shortened with the firm I work for. I agree it may not mean a great deal, but if the people backing him for the job know something then it could be salient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Is it not possible that RK went to Canada, to tie up some lose ends, See family, sign a business deal with Saints, or having an input to The 2014 Celebration of Excellence to celebrate Canada’s tremendous successes within the Olympic Movement which is happening next week . I doubt very much he was having a holiday , but then only **** stirrers would come up with that sort of spin Agree with what you said. Traitor is a strong word but dis-loyal / unsure springs to mind. How much loyalty do supporters show to managers or players when things are not going well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 (edited) How much loyalty do supporters show to managers or players when things are not going well? Quite a bit at times - you do remember the support Adkins got over the first few months of our first season back in the Prem, WBA away etc? Edited 26 May, 2014 by Sour Mash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 He's going...he's staying...he's going...he's staying..FFS give it a rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 AVB was also regarded a class manager. Got very little time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett24 Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 He was supposedly down at Staplewood this morning. Pochettino that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 He was supposedly down at Staplewood this morning. Pochettino that is. Emptying his desk and saying his goodbyes obviously.... Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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