Turkish Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 (edited) He has been sitting on a new contract for months. I know that much is fact. I do not know why he hasn't signed it - I can only speculate as to the reasons why but the two I suggested don't seem far fetched to me. Why do you think he hasn't signed it? I will speculate it is because he is unsure of the Boards ability to follow up their public statements and / or he fancies joining a different club. For me, both are fair reasons but why aren't Saints seeking to address the issue and convince him this is the place to stay regardless of other factors? So despite claims on here the board have been doing something and have indeed offered him a new deal? Well this is great news!!! I'll prefer to ignore hysteria, speculation and dark forces and trust what our manager and board have said. He has a contract, he was focused on finishing the season, they have been planning for next season, talks about a new deal are ongoing and all parties are comfortable with that. Edited 25 May, 2014 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Poch confirming he was staying until the end of the season settled things down a lot since then but we are still in the same position with him, in that he's never committed to the club beyond the season. Players are more likely to angle for a move over the summer rather than in Jan and not as many clubs are in the market. I would be delighted to be completely wrong about the compentency of the new board and we start next season with an excellent squad and manager. As VFTT says, they've said that players we don't want to sell aren't for sale and talks with the manger are ongoing. What else do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 So despite claims on here the board have been doing something and have indeed offered him a new deal? Well this is great news!!! I'll prefer to ignore hysteria, speculation and dark forces and trust what our manager and board have said. He has a contract, he was focused on finishing the season, they have been planning for next season and all parties are comfortable with that. Do you think it is a comforting situation? I personally find it uneasy that our Manager (who appears important for player retention - rightly or wrongly) is uncertain about something and that is preventing him committing. It doesn't sit well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Poch confirming he was staying until the end of the season settled things down a lot since then but we are still in the same position with him, in that he's never committed to the club beyond the season. Players are more likely to angle for a move over the summer rather than in Jan and not as many clubs are in the market. I would be delighted to be completely wrong about the compentency of the new board and we start next season with an excellent squad and manager. Who has put in a transfer request? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Do you think it is a comforting situation? I personally find it uneasy that our Manager (who appears important for player retention - rightly or wrongly) is uncertain about something and that is preventing him committing. It doesn't sit well. I'm comfortable with the statement that came out of the club and ignoring the speculation. What is it he's uncertain about? You know for a fact he's stalling on signing the deal on the table, what's the reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 They could convince the players for a start... I'm a Saints fan but I'm also a realist and if giant clubs like Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal come a calling, offering massive wages and the chance of glory, then players leave. Shaw will be 1st choice at one of the worlds biggest clubs and Lallana has been loyal and deserves a chance of UCL football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 As VFTT says, they've said that players we don't want to sell aren't for sale and talks with the manger are ongoing. What else do you want? A sense that what's happening within the club is reflective of what's being said. Alright making those kind of statements but they are undermined if the manager and players openly say that they are hoping X, Y and Z are happening but that no one is communicsting with them. What can the board be doing if they are not even internally letting everyone know that the plan is to progress and how do they benefit from it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 I'm a Saints fan but I'm also a realist and if giant clubs like Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal come a calling, offering massive wages and the chance of glory, then players leave. Shaw will be 1st choice at one of the worlds biggest clubs and Lallana has been loyal and deserves a chance of UCL football. Exactly this. If people really are stupid enough to believe that Man united and Liverpool wouldn't want to have signed shaw and lallana and they wouldn't want to have gone because Cortese was still here then they're mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Who has put in a transfer request? Eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 What is it he's uncertain about? You know for a fact he's stalling on signing the deal on the table, what's the reason? I said I don't know the reason in a previous post. I've speculated as to why I think it may be. I do know he has been offered a deal - well before the season ended as well. That is a 100% fact. Now it could well be that they have been negotiating off the back of that offer for the last few weeks. It could be that the terms are acceptable but at a professional level Pochettino has some concerns. I don't know. But if you are offered a new contract in any line of work - and we can assume it is on improved terms - and you don't sign it, something is up, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Just listened to the Press Pass on Talksport. They didn't spend a lot of time on Spurs & Saints but seemed to think that Poch would now be staying with Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 A sense that what's happening within the club is reflective of what's being said. Alright making those kind of statements but they are undermined if the manager and players openly say that they are hoping X, Y and Z are happening but that no one is communicsting with them. What can the board be doing if they are not even internally letting everyone know that the plan is to progress and how do they benefit from it? If the manager and board are currently negotiating his new deal and budgets etc but nothing is finalised then why would they ring the players to tell them that nothing has been agreed yet? "Hi Adam, just interrupting your training in Portugal to tell you I've got nothing to tell you' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Eh? You said players will be angling for a move in the summer. So who is? Surely some must have out in transfer requests by now given the shambles going on behind the scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Reality is that the new board have had 6 months to make plans with Poch and this was always going to be a big summer for us. This should have been a top priority since day 1 really but all the indications are is that the club have done very little to create any type of clarity for the manager and in turn the players. I don't know how many times Pochettino said that such a negotiation was something for the Summer and that he wanted to concentrate on finishing as high as possible. The Board can't negotiate with an empty chair. They even went so far as to say that no player would be sold if Pochettino wanted to keep him (which means that one word from him could end all the Shaw, Lallana and Lovren rumours), so I don't see how you can deliver all the blame to the Board's door. Sadly, I think Pochettino's words were code for "I'm not tying myself down here because I've got other things cooking, and that - rather than the well being of Southampton F.C. - will be my main focus". While I'm a huge admirer of his tactical style, his questionable commitment is having a dangerous knock-on affect in the player group and in transfer planning, and that could haunt us all next season. Frankly, he may be a damn good coach but I have some real questions about his character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 You said players will be angling for a move in the summer. So who is? Surely some must have out in transfer requests by now given the shambles going on behind the scenes. We are not in the summer yet, but I expect the players are waiting to see if MP leaves. I can accept the loss of LS and AL but that would be it of our starting 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 If the manager and board are currently negotiating his new deal and budgets etc but nothing is finalised then why would they ring the players to tell them that nothing has been agreed yet? "Hi Adam, just interrupting your training in Portugal to tell you I've got nothing to tell you' Come on, you know what I mean. If Poch felt confident he was sticking around, the players would have a good indication of that. They reat don't seem to though. Yes it's likely that we are always going to get offers for players and perhaps lose one or two . What's important is where the line is drawn. We have a few players who could play for bigger clubs, our policy shouldn't be to let them leave because we supposedly owe them the opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 I don't know how many times Pochettino said that such a negotiation was something for the Summer and that he wanted to concentrate on finishing as high as possible. The Board can't negotiate with an empty chair. They even went so far as to say that no player would be sold if Pochettino wanted to keep him (which means that one word from him could end all the Shaw, Lallana and Lovren rumours), so I don't see how you can deliver all the blame to the Board's door. Sadly, I think Pochettino's words were code for "I'm not tying myself down here because I've got other things cooking, and that - rather than the well being of Southampton F.C. - will be my main focus". While I'm a huge admirer of his tactical style, his questionable commitment is having a dangerous knock-on affect in the player group and in transfer planning, and that could haunt us all next season. Frankly, he may be a damn good coach but I have some real questions about his character. he is only dong what AL and LS doing, going for the best for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 I said I don't know the reason in a previous post. I've speculated as to why I think it may be. I do know he has been offered a deal - well before the season ended as well. That is a 100% fact. Now it could well be that they have been negotiating off the back of that offer for the last few weeks. It could be that the terms are acceptable but at a professional level Pochettino has some concerns. I don't know. But if you are offered a new contract in any line of work - and we can assume it is on improved terms - and you don't sign it, something is up, no? So it's gone from stalling on a new deal for months to being offered one before the season ended in about 3 posts You say yourself there could be anyone of a number of reasons, yet speculate that it's because we can't convince him to sign. Maybe he wants a few quid more. Maybe he wants a few million more on the budget. Maybe he wants assurance that hell have all the money if anyone is sold. What we do know is that the board have said they are comfortable with the current situation and Poch has said for everyone to stop panicking, of course lets just make things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Frankly, he may be a damn good coach but I have some real questions about his character. Agree. If he informs the board he wants to go off then I hope they remind him he has a year left on his contract and will be put on gardening leave. If he went to Spain or Portugal then so be it, but I really detest Levy, Tottingham etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 So it's gone from stalling on a new deal for months to being offered one before the season ended in about 3 posts You say yourself there could be anyone of a number of reasons, yet speculate that it's because we can't convince him to sign. Maybe he wants a few quid more. Maybe he wants a few million more on the budget. Maybe he wants assurance that hell have all the money if anyone is sold. What we do know is that the board have said they are comfortable with the current situation and Poch has said for everyone to stop panicking, of course lets just make things up. Stalling signing a new deal having been offered one months before the season ended - that more consistent for you? And yes it could be for any one of a number of reasons, but I would suggest that if it was for any that you suggested that they could be resolved very quickly. They are easy to sort out to get a yes or no and we move on. Unless you think they are complicated issues that would cause all this uncertainty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 (edited) I said I don't know the reason in a previous post. I've speculated as to why I think it may be. I do know he has been offered a deal - well before the season ended as well. That is a 100% fact. Now it could well be that they have been negotiating off the back of that offer for the last few weeks. It could be that the terms are acceptable but at a professional level Pochettino has some concerns. I don't know. But if you are offered a new contract in any line of work - and we can assume it is on improved terms - and you don't sign it, something is up, no? If true it just says to me Poch isn't that committed to saints if that's the case why does anyone want him to stay anyway? Edited 25 May, 2014 by doddisalegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 I don't know how many times Pochettino said that such a negotiation was something for the Summer and that he wanted to concentrate on finishing as high as possible. The Board can't negotiate with an empty chair. They even went so far as to say that no player would be sold if Pochettino wanted to keep him (which means that one word from him could end all the Shaw, Lallana and Lovren rumours), so I don't see how you can deliver all the blame to the Board's door. Sadly, I think Pochettino's words were code for "I'm not tying myself down here because I've got other things cooking, and that - rather than the well being of Southampton F.C. - will be my main focus". While I'm a huge admirer of his tactical style, his questionable commitment is having a dangerous knock-on affect in the player group and in transfer planning, and that could haunt us all next season. Frankly, he may be a damn good coach but I have some real questions about his character. Good post sums up my feeling pretty well:thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 I'm bored. The soap awards are on Adrian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 If true it just says to me Poch isn't that committed to saints if that's the case why does anyone want him to stay anyway? I wouldn't necessarily question his commitment because he chose not to sign his new deal when it was offered. It would be fair to suggest he would have more leverage in the summer so it wouldn't have been sensible for him to. But we're now in the summer and he has the leverage he needs - so what is the issue now with it being resolved one way or another? I've suggested my concerns in previous posts - I feel it would be more likely for those to be the issues than any Turkish suggested purely because the ones Turkish suggested are those that can be resolved in house between both parties. The ones I've suggested involve third parties (clubs signing our players and clubs wanting our Manager) so the longer this goes on the worse it feels and why it leads me back to my original statement that Saints are looking a little silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Only one good reason to watch the soap awards........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 I can't be arsed to reply to everyone. The board have given a statement stating the position. Poch has said he will sort his situation out in the summer. The season finished 3 weeks ago. Everything else is speciation based on the media, the same media that has predicted for months and meltdown and mass exodus. Poch may go, if he does then he doesn't want to be here and let's get someone who does and move on with someone committed to club not the pipe dreams of a former employee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 25 May, 2014 She has a jaw like Ralph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 She has a jaw like Ralph. Sorry hadn't got as far as looking at her face........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Is this the eurovision winner after a shave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 If true it just says to me Poch isn't that committed to saints if that's the case why does anyone want him to stay anyway? Because he's a great manager! No good manager's dream is to manage Southampton and all good managers are professional and work hard wherever they are. Football management is like any line of work - we're all dedicated to our jobs and work hard, but we would consider a better position if the opportunity came along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Only two good reasons to watch the soap awards........ fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 I'm comfortable with the statement that came out of the club and ignoring the speculation. What is it he's uncertain about? You know for a fact he's stalling on signing the deal on the table, what's the reason? Turkish is a clapper!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Pochettino suffered the sale of a team's best players at Espanyol and look where it got him. Struggling near relegation. It would really not help his career were history to repeat itself with Saints. Sent from my LG-D802 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 fixed 2 point infraction for a sexist comment chalet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Because he's a great manager! No good manager's dream is to manage Southampton and all good managers are professional and work hard wherever they are. Football management is like any line of work - we're all dedicated to our jobs and work hard, but we would consider a better position if the opportunity came along. So that being the case him leaving is pretty much inevitable............ so why are some people desperate to blame the board if he leaves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 (edited) So that being the case him leaving is pretty much inevitable............ so why are some people desperate to blame the board if he leaves? We don't have to be his dream for him to stay. I think most of us simply believe that the right offer from Southampton could be better than what Spurs can offer him. That's not to say that the board is to blame if he leaves - it may be that the best they could realistically offer wasn't enough. If, say, Real Madrid were interested, I don't think any of us would begrudge him the move or blame the board if he left. Edited 25 May, 2014 by DuncanRG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 I wouldn't necessarily question his commitment because he chose not to sign his new deal when it was offered. It would be fair to suggest he would have more leverage in the summer so it wouldn't have been sensible for him to. But we're now in the summer and he has the leverage he needs - so what is the issue now with it being resolved one way or another? I've suggested my concerns in previous posts - I feel it would be more likely for those to be the issues than any Turkish suggested purely because the ones Turkish suggested are those that can be resolved in house between both parties. The ones I've suggested involve third parties (clubs signing our players and clubs wanting our Manager) so the longer this goes on the worse it feels and why it leads me back to my original statement that Saints are looking a little silly. Because he holds all the cards -and can play the waiting game, knowing the board don't have the credibility to call his bluff. The more players who come out and say that it would be a massive blow to lose MP, the stronger his hand. Am pretty sure that if Cortese was around, he would have been applying more pressure. Never mind the simple fact that MP was committed to Cortese in a way he isn't with KL and Ralphy. Of course, KL and RK too might be doing the same -they are not naive and won’t want to be hardballed. But there's a big difference between their bargaining position and that of Cortese. Cortese would be in a much more credible position to sell change –say a replacement for MP- to players who might be sceptical. After all, he has a successful trackrecord of managing change - KL and RK simply don't. They need to prove themselves in the same Cortese was required in 2009. This serves only to weaken their hand. Nothing can paper over this essential difference, no matter how competent and well-intentioned KL and RK are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Because he holds all the cards -and can play the waiting game, knowing the board don't have the credibility to call his bluff. The more players who come out and say that it would be a massive blow to lose MP, the stronger his hand. Am pretty sure that if Cortese was around, he would have been applying more pressure. Never mind the simple fact that MP was committed to Cortese in a way he isn't with KL and Ralphy. Of course, KL and RK too might be doing the same -they are not naive and won’t want to be hardballed. But there's a big difference between their bargaining position and that of Cortese. Cortese would be in a much more credible position to sell change –say a replacement for MP- to players who might be sceptical. After all, he has a successful trackrecord of managing change - KL and RK simply don't. They need to prove themselves in the same Cortese was required in 2009. This serves only to weaken their hand. Nothing can paper over this essential difference, no matter how competent and well-intentioned KL and RK are. Seems a fair enough assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Pochettino suffered the sale of a team's best players at Espanyol and look where it got him. Struggling near relegation. It would really not help his career were history to repeat itself with Saints. Sent from my LG-D802 using Tapatalk True, but we should also not ignore the fact that his replacement took the same set of players from bottom of the league (the position he left them in) to a comfortable mid-table finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 True, but we should also not ignore the fact that his replacement took the same set of players from bottom of the league (the position he left them in) to a comfortable mid-table finish. new manager thingy the same lot finished 3 or 4 points above relegation this season Di Canio got a team to stay up after taking over a 'group of player' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 new manager thingy the same lot finished 3 or 4 points above relegation this season Di Canio got a team to stay up after taking over a 'group of player' You are only telling the half of the story that suits you Batman. They were comfortable the entire season, spending most of the season between 8th and 10th. 14th (where they finished) was the lowest position they had held all season, they were never in any danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 You are only telling the half of the story that suits you Batman. They were comfortable the entire season, spending most of the season between 8th and 10th. 14th (where they finished) was the lowest position they had held all season, they were never in any danger. I am telling half the story as I have no idea of the ins and outs of espanyol I do know, that for us, MP is feking brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Espanyol's league position eighteen months and an entire full season after he left tells us what about Pochettino exactly? Seems rather an irrelevance to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Pochettino suffered the sale of a team's best players at Espanyol and look where it got him. Struggling near relegation. It would really not help his career were history to repeat itself with Saints. The Board said that nobody would be sold if he wanted to keep them. How much clearer do they need to be? This all pivots around Pochettino and his deafening silence, which has thrown the door wide open for the opportunists at other clubs and in the media. Imagine how helpful it would have been if he had said "If it's down to me, none of my first-teamers will be going anywhere." That's a far from illogical thing for him to say if he has any plans to be here next season - and something that most managers would say if they were faced with the prospect of losing key players. I hope it will all work out well in the end but I have my doubts because I fear that his only focus right now is himself - not the year left on his contract, not his players, not the Board, not the supporters and not the well being of Southampton FC. Sure, everyone should have a right to better themselves and I don't begrudge them that - unless, by their conduct, they are seriously damaging the interests of people who have done nothing to deserve it. I really hope he stays, but if he does go I'd like to see us not only invoke the two million quid clause in his contract (interesting that Cortese would think it necessary to put that in there) but also go after Levy for compensation, if that's legally possible. I didn't care much for Cortese's confrontational style but I'd prefer that to being treated like patsies. Perhaps it's time for a little hardball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/tottenham/next-permanent-manager/bet-history/mauricio-pochettino/today Seems that quite a few companies have suspended betting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneawol Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/tottenham/next-permanent-manager/bet-history/mauricio-pochettino/today Seems that quite a few companies have suspended betting. Some do overnight, nothing unusual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneawol Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 (edited) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2639024/Spurs-set-Frank-Boer-Mauricio-Pochettino-new-manager-ruling-Roberto-Mancini.html Edited 25 May, 2014 by goneawol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block34 Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 We don't have to be his dream for him to stay. I think most of us simply believe that the right offer from Southampton could be better than what Spurs can offer him. That's not to say that the board is to blame if he leaves - it may be that the best they could realistically offer wasn't enough. If, say, Real Madrid were interested, I don't think any of us would begrudge him the move or blame the board if he left. This. However, I simply don't see Spurs as that much of a career enhancing upward step. In fact, with the risks involved and a greater chance of failure there (big team so big results are nothing more than to be expected, any thing less being a failure) than with us (small team, big results with us being a much better reflection of his skills). But what do I know - I'm not a career football manager or club owner/potential employer. But yes, 'losing' him to the likes of Real would be a lot more palatable - even to the extent of saying "we got you there MoPo, don't waste it" His decision obviously and perhaps for him even just managing a big EPL club is sufficient progress towards his next intended career move in the next x years, whatever that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Some do overnight, nothing unusual. Ah - ta. Not a betting man so obviously got 2+2=5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block34 Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2639024/Spurs-set-Frank-Boer-Mauricio-Pochettino-new-manager-ruling-Roberto-Mancini.html Love this bit in there..... "Frank de Boer and Mauricio Pochettino are locked in a straight fight to become the latest manager of Tottenham" ...as if both guys are deliberately seeking Spurs out to move to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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