Badger Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 (edited) Exactly, especially when there are decent managers currently available. Tuchel would seem to be a manager very much in our mould, although would be an incredible signing and probably out of our league. However I don't quite see why Spurs still want MP. I understand they have a decent crop of youngsters, but if they wanted a manager to integrate the youth into their set up, wouldn't the logical thing to keep Sherwood on seeing as he was familiar with their youth set up and still delivering results? Most of the names they have been linked with (Van Gal, Rafa, heck even Ancelotti recently) are all known for their short termism and MP really breaks that mould so it isn't really clear what will be expected of the new manager. A promising manager by all accounts, but not sure he'd be either "incredible" or "out of our league" , why do you think this ? He's achieved league positions towards the top of their league and qualified for Europa League with an unfashionable side, but to my knowledge has yet to win a trophy. Perhaps a German equivalent of MP. Klopp would be "incredible" and "out of our league" without a doubt,[ so not suggesting for a second it would happen ] Tuchel would represent 'unfulfilled potential' and, in coming to England, a 'gamble' (for him as well as for us). Edited 25 May, 2014 by Badger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 I do think it worth remembering back to when Adkins was sacked and MP appointed. None of us (and apologies if I don't speak for some) were particularly impressed by the appointment of MP, who had been recently sacked. Now the person who decided on him, and I am presuming it wasn't Cortese, is still at the club so why can't they find another good manager, and one who might be even better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 I do think it worth remembering back to when Adkins was sacked and MP appointed. None of us (and apologies if I don't speak for some) were particularly impressed by the appointment of MP, who had been recently sacked. Now the person who decided on him, and I am presuming it wasn't Cortese, is still at the club so why can't they find another good manager, and one who might be even better? Many presume it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Everybody knows it was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydney_saint Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 A promising manager by all accounts, but not sure he'd be either "incredible" or "out of our league" , why do you think this ? He's achieved league positions towards the top of their league and qualified for Europa League with an unfashionable side, but to my knowledge has yet to win a trophy. Perhaps a German equivalent of MP. Klopp would be "incredible" and "out of our league" without a doubt,[ so not suggesting for a second it would happen ] Tuchel would represent 'unfulfilled potential' and, in coming to England, a 'gamble' (for him as well as for us). I understand what you mean. But many, what I can only call 'tier 2' clubs in the European football hierarchy that can not afford/attract the glittery managerial name would be after a name like that. A manager which they will feel can be their 'Klopp' or their 'Simeone', that can push them even temporary into the elite. Clubs a similar size to Shalke, Valencia, Roma (not suggesting for a second that any of those clubs are looking for a new manager). Added to the fact that he is out of contract he is quite an attractive manager, and has a reputation as a tactical genius. Although one could argue that we could also break into the elite similar to Athletico or Dortmund, there would need to be assurances from our board that that is the ambition. So Tuchel in himself is probably not beyond our level, I could feasibly see much bigger clubs interested in taking a punt imho, and therefore would be an incredible signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 I understand what you mean. But many, what I can only call 'tier 2' clubs in the European football hierarchy that can not afford/attract the glittery managerial name would be after a name like that. A manager which they will feel can be their 'Klopp' or their 'Simeone', that can push them even temporary into the elite. Clubs a similar size to Shalke, Valencia, Roma (not suggesting for a second that any of those clubs are looking for a new manager). Added to the fact that he is out of contract he is quite an attractive manager, and has a reputation as a tactical genius. Although one could argue that we could also break into the elite similar to Athletico or Dortmund, there would need to be assurances from our board that that is the ambition. So Tuchel in himself is probably not beyond our level, I could feasibly see much bigger clubs interested in taking a punt imho, and therefore would be an incredible signing Interesting. But to add a few observations: Contract - although he has left Mainz he has an agreement with them regarding taking another post http://www.bundesliga.com/en/liga/news/2013/0000294912.php "tactical genius" - that label worries me as the last one we had was Hoddle, wizard on a whiteboard in setting out formations but without man management skills to motivate "ambition" - if this is in place we might not be discussing MP leaving "bigger clubs" - not yet, although I'm sure his progress might be monitored closely ( we all know how this could pan out don't we ?) I agree with much of what you say and can see the attraction, but don't agree this to be an incredible signing (though might prove to be for someone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Interesting. But to add a few observations: Contract - although he has left Mainz he has an agreement with them regarding taking another post http://www.bundesliga.com/en/liga/news/2013/0000294912.php "tactical genius" - that label worries me as the last one we had was Hoddle, wizard on a whiteboard in setting out formations but without man management skills to motivate "ambition" - if this is in place we might not be discussing MP leaving "bigger clubs" - not yet, although I'm sure his progress might be monitored closely ( we all know how this could pan out don't we ?) I agree with much of what you say and can see the attraction, but don't agree this to be an incredible signing (though might prove to be for someone). Hoddle was one of our most successful managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Hoddle was one of our most successful managers. Do you get a prompt whenever someone types his name ? Strangely though, we were one of the better periods in his managerial career, helping his rehabilitation along the way, but the phrase "lost the dressing room" did tend to feature a few times on his CV. Please don't reply about GH ; that topic is long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Everybody knows it was! Do they? I didn't know that NC looked at his record, went and scouted him and said. yup, he's the man for us. Glad that I mentioned it, as all those ITK cam impart their knowledge and set me right. So thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Patron's harmless. Those two posts were utterly innocuous. He can be an annoying and grating knob but the tone or intent is never vindictive or meanspirited unlike some. Am all for culls -rights come with responsibilities and all that; but this was a poor decision IMO. I thought he was another GS login, possibly why he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Do they? I didn't know that NC looked at his record, went and scouted him and said. yup, he's the man for us. Glad that I mentioned it, as all those ITK cam impart their knowledge and set me right. So thank you. Obviously other people would have been involved but Cortese had the final say. He wasn't the type to leave things to other people and sign off after they'd made their recommendation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 JWP singing MP's praises, not sure how new this is. http://www.sportal.co.nz/football/english-premier-league/ward-prowse-worried-about-pochettino-exit/46drn2j5l5o71xpu31u418rqf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Do they? I didn't know that NC looked at his record, went and scouted him and said. yup, he's the man for us. Glad that I mentioned it, as all those ITK cam impart their knowledge and set me right. So thank you. I read somewhere, I think it was Gabriele Marcotti , that said Cortese was scouting players when he came across MP and was impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisspahars Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Been backed (and for decent money) down to around 2/7 on Betfair - I think we're getting close to the point we can say he's a gonna, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Obviously other people would have been involved but Cortese had the final say. He wasn't the type to leave things to other people and sign off after they'd made their recommendation. I read somewhere, I think it was Gabriele Marcotti , that said Cortese was scouting players when he came across MP and was impressed. Duncan, sure, of course Herr NC had the final say. I was more after who discovered him. Lordy says it might well be him, which is interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 (edited) Have to say, unfortunately, I'm now urring on the side that he's pretty much gone seriously hope I'm wrong though. Edited 25 May, 2014 by BlakeySFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Spurs will surely want to appoint someone this week and have barely been linked (seriously) to anyone other than Poch and De Boer who has not heard anything since the first approach. Would expect its been sorted out in the background for a few weeks. Will be gutting to lose him and as many said when the new board came in - MP's decision to stay or go would be our clearest indication as to their true ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Have to say, unfortunately, I'm not urring on the side that he's pretty much gone seriously hope I'm wrong though. If he is, I hope it happens soon - We need to move on no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Let's just resolve this one way or the other, personally I think the deal with Spurs is done or very close, but if so we move on. COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 For the first time I'm thinking he's gonna leave. Nothing in particular to base that on, just a feeling. Up to now I was pretty confident of him staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Spurs will surely want to appoint someone this week and have barely been linked (seriously) to anyone other than Poch and De Boer who has not heard anything since the first approach. Would expect its been sorted out in the background for a few weeks. Will be gutting to lose him and as many said when the new board came in - MP's decision to stay or go would be our clearest indication as to their true ambition. Think back to when Cortese threatened to quit this time last year, he said then that he'd go if Cortese went, so you could say he'd have gone whatever and whoever was in charge if it wasn't nick nack. If that's the case and he was only here because of the dwarf then we are best off without him. Of course, I don't expect anyone to say they'd always dreamt of managing southampton, but if he thinks so little of the club that his loyalty was just to one man then we are better off trusting the board to act in the best interests of the club and get someone who does want to be here because they recognise it's a great job and club. I'm sure the helmets will blame the lack of ambition of the board though. Even though the owner hasn't changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Spurs will surely want to appoint someone this week and have barely been linked (seriously) to anyone other than Poch and De Boer who has not heard anything since the first approach. Would expect its been sorted out in the background for a few weeks. Will be gutting to lose him and as many said when the new board came in - MP's decision to stay or go would be our clearest indication as to their true ambition. If we still don't know who the manager is going to be next season, I wonder how the overall planning for the summer is going? Ralf was supposed to start work in ernest from the Monday after the Utd game. I bet our plans are a right mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 I think it can go either way but I do feel Saints are being made to look a little silly and that doesn't feel too good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 If we still don't know who the manager is going to be next season, I wonder how the overall planning for the summer is going? Ralf was supposed to start work in ernest from the Monday after the Utd game. I bet our plans are a right mess. I can assure you Ralph, les, Gareth and Kat are working incredibly hard behind the scenes and there will be some good news very soon. If you have the best interests of the club at heart you'll celebrate this news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 I think it can go either way but I do feel Saints are being made to look a little silly and that doesn't feel too good. How are we being made to look silly? Should we be crying to the press about other clubs wanting our players and manger? Ralph's statement that we should expect this speculation and treat it as good news as it means we are doing something right was bang on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 How are we being made to look silly? Should we be crying to the press about other clubs wanting our players and manger? Ralph's statement that we should expect this speculation and treat it as good news as it means we are doing something right was bang on. remember the will we, wont we for Rodriguez for about a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 I can assure you Ralph, les, Gareth and Kat are working incredibly hard behind the scenes and there will be some good news very soon. If you have the best interests of the club at heart you'll celebrate this news. Well I really hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 25 May, 2014 I'm sure the helmets will blame the lack of ambition of the board though. Even though the owner hasn't changed. I think most fans know Spurs are a bigger club and can understand why he will leave, especially if a couple of our best players also (understandably) leave. The issue is more how it will all have been done. A bit of backbone lacking and Saints looking like a bit of a pushover at best or naive and clueless at worst. They could and should have put a little more onus on MP instead of just agreeing for him to put back talks continuously, in the face of interest from another team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 (edited) I think most fans know Spurs are a bigger club and can understand why he will leave, especially if a couple of our best players also (understandably) leave. The issue is more how it will all have been done. A bit of backbone lacking and Saints looking like a bit of a pushover at best or naive and clueless at worst. They could and should have put a little more onus on MP instead of just agreeing for him to put back talks continuously, in the face of interest from another team. Youre clearly ITK on this. How do you know we haven't tried to keep Poch? How do you know we've just rolled over and let him go? Maybe that's why it's taken so long? Laughable how people think we should so all our communicating with staff via the media. Edited 25 May, 2014 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 I've little doubt we can find a good replacement, and while I like MP I thought his attitude towards be FA cup was appalling. The main reason I'm eager for him to stay beyond continuity is that quite a few players will definitely go if he does. If he stays, we have a (small) chance of keeping everyone. Disagree, we need him more for continuity alone and just player retention. The players love playing for him even though he makes them work their ******** off and the way we play is down to Pochettino's single minded approach and attention to detail. He's a workaholic which we reap huge benefits from. Replacing him would be a tough ask, especially for a crew who have no experience in appointing a manager a side from Reed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 I think most fans know Spurs are a bigger club and can understand why he will leave, especially if a couple of our best players also (understandably) leave. I'm sorry, I don't buy into it is understandable that he will leave if we sell a couple of players. IF he feels that way, then maybe it is best that he does leave - he doesn't call the shots, he's an employee who doesn't have to worry about balancing the books and running the club viably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Youre clearly ITK on this. How do you know we haven't tried to keep Poch? How do you know we've just rolled over and let him go? Laughable how people think we should so all our communicating with staff via the media. Not ITK at all but when asked could Ralph not have said, "We have offered Mauricio a new contract, he hasnt signed it yet and needs to work out whether he wants to or not." That, according to Adam Blackmore was the truth, yet instead he was wishy washy and MP every time when asked has referred the question to the Board when it was obviously his decision to stay or not. It wouldnt change the decision, but would provide the appearance of being more in control. Instead, they have stated multiple times that they were "comfortable" with the situation which must surely have been a lie because they knew, deep down, that MP wasnt going to sign a new deal. Any planning that MP has done he did as a professional but I would imagine he has known for a couple of months at least that Spurs was fairly likely, and he is obviously keen on it. Lets hope in that time the Board have identified a candidate of similar style of play and quality to MP. Good luck to them, and Poch who has got the team playing the best football Ive seen in 25 years watching Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 25 May, 2014 I'm sorry, I don't buy into it is understandable that he will leave if we sell a couple of players. IF he feels that way, then maybe it is best that he does leave - he doesn't call the shots, he's an employee who doesn't have to worry about balancing the books and running the club viably. Sorry but we don't need, financially, to sell Shaw and Lallana to remain viable.Surely not? In fact, the board said so in Feb. We could sell Ramirez and Osvaldo for 10m for the pair and with the whopping PL money would be more than fine. Can completely undestand why MP feels Spurs are a better bet if he knows deep down that the squad he will have next season is weaker than what he ended this one with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Youre clearly ITK on this. How do you know we haven't tried to keep Poch? How do you know we've just rolled over and let him go? Laughable how people think we should so all our communicating with staff via the media. Reality is that the new board have had 6 months to make plans with Poch and this was always going to be a big summer for us. This should have been a top priority since day 1 really but all the indications are is that the club have done very little to create any type of clarity for the manager and in turn the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Disagree, we need him more for continuity alone and just player retention. The players love playing for him even though he makes them work their ******** off and the way we play is down to Pochettino's single minded approach and attention to detail. He's a workaholic which we reap huge benefits from. Replacing him would be a tough ask, especially for a crew who have no experience in appointing a manager a side from Reed. Totally agree - I guess its thanks to Cortese's seamless ability in recruiting one good after manager that so many can be afford to be complacent. That and a lobotomy. After all, pre-2009, we had such a stunning track record in recruiting managers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 I think most fans know Spurs are a bigger club and can understand why he will leave, especially if a couple of our best players also (understandably) leave. The issue is more how it will all have been done. A bit of backbone lacking and Saints looking like a bit of a pushover at best or naive and clueless at worst. They could and should have put a little more onus on MP instead of just agreeing for him to put back talks continuously, in the face of interest from another team. What makes you think anything has happened as yet... probably Levy will approach us this week if he gives up on more high profile managers. I also don't understand this 'bigger club' mentality, is it just ground capacity, cos Spurs have won little or nothing lately. They are self-sustaining in terms of buying power so if MP has his wits about him he will realise we are a better prospect going forwards... IMO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Not ITK at all but when asked could Ralph not have said, "We have offered Mauricio a new contract, he hasnt signed it yet and needs to work out whether he wants to or not." That, according to Adam Blackmore was the truth, yet instead he was wishy washy and MP every time when asked has referred the question to the Board when it was obviously his decision to stay or not. It wouldnt change the decision, but would provide the appearance of being more in control. Instead, they have stated multiple times that they were "comfortable" with the situation which must surely have been a lie because they knew, deep down, that MP wasnt going to sign a new deal. Any planning that MP has done he did as a professional but I would imagine he has known for a couple of months at least that Spurs was fairly likely, and he is obviously keen on it. Lets hope in that time the Board have identified a candidate of similar style of play and quality to MP. Good luck to them, and Poch who has got the team playing the best football Ive seen in 25 years watching Saints. How would a statement saying they've offered a him a deal and he hasn't decided if he wants to sign it or stay make them appear more in control? That clearly puts MP in clear control, might even come across as desperate for him to stay! they've said they're comfortable with the situation and planning for next season. That sounds like strength and determination of someone in control if he stays or goes. I'm not really sure what more people want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Reality is that the new board have had 6 months to make plans with Poch and this was always going to be a big summer for us. This should have been a top priority since day 1 really but all the indications are is that the club have done very little to create any type of clarity for the manager and in turn the players. 6 months? Ralph was appointed in March diggers, last time I checked that was 2 months ago. 'All the indications' I presume you're talking about that you've read in the media and ignored the statement made by the club? remember the dark forces Cortese warned about? people seem to be taking notice of them now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 6 months? Ralph was appointed in March diggers, last time I checked that was 2 months ago. What was has Gareth been doing as CEO? Why have we had to wait for Ralph who basically said he only properly started a couple of weeks ago? Can't expect driven professionals like Poch and players waiting around whilst Ralf is strolling around sight seeing in Winchester. Even if change isn't as extreme as feared this summer, the whole approach has looked rather meek from the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 How are we being made to look silly? Should we be crying to the press about other clubs wanting our players and manger? Ralph's statement that we should expect this speculation and treat it as good news as it means we are doing something right was bang on. Because we can't convince our Manager to sign a new contract as he waits on better offers and / or the Board to deliver on their intention that no player will be sold that they want to keep. Neither are a strong look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 MP holds all the cards and it doesn't matter that our board has offered him a deal that would make Fat Sam blush, he wants to go to a bigger club and to that end, we can't compete, same as with players. I really hope he stays as I love our football under him but his ambition appears to lay beyond a club of our size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 What was has Gareth been doing as CEO? Why have we had to wait for Ralph who basically said he only properly started a couple of weeks ago? Can't expect driven professionals like Poch and players waiting around whilst Ralf is strolling around sight seeing in Winchester. Even if change isn't as extreme as feared this summer, the whole approach has looked rather meek from the outside. You're 6 months is nonsense. Cortese quit in January, that is only 4 months ago. Gareth was FD up until then. Funny isn't it 'all the indications' in January were that we were in meltdown and everyone was set to walk out. It didn't happen, here we are 4 months on and we still haven't melted down, so they must be doing something right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Players speaking out in public that they don't know what's going on is not a strong look either. The usual dinlos will beg to differ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 Because we can't convince our Manager to sign a new contract as he waits on better offers and / or the Board to deliver on their intention that no player will be sold that they want to keep. Neither are a strong look. So you ignore what Poch said about how he has a deal with another 12 months to run and their is no rush? How do you know they aren't thrashing out the deal right now? Remind me who it is we've sold that we didn't want to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 So you ignore what Poch said about how he has a deal with another 12 months to run and their is no rush? How do you know they aren't thrashing out the deal right now? Remind me who it is we've sold that we didn't want to? He has been sitting on a new contract for months. I know that much is fact. I do not know why he hasn't signed it - I can only speculate as to the reasons why but the two I suggested don't seem far fetched to me. Why do you think he hasn't signed it? I will speculate it is because he is unsure of the Boards ability to follow up their public statements and / or he fancies joining a different club. For me, both are fair reasons but why aren't Saints seeking to address the issue and convince him this is the place to stay regardless of other factors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 The board have stated that players aren't for sale and that talks with the manager had/have begun. What else could they say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 He has been sitting on a new contract for months. I know that much is fact. I do not know why he hasn't signed it - I can only speculate as to the reasons why but the two I suggested don't seem far fetched to me. Why do you think he hasn't signed it? I will speculate it is because he is unsure of the Boards ability to follow up their public statements and / or he fancies joining a different club. For me, both are fair reasons but why aren't Saints seeking to address the issue and convince him this is the place to stay regardless of other factors? How on earth do you know he hasn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 The board have stated that players aren't for sale and that talks with the manager had/have begun. What else could they say? They could convince the players for a start... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 You're 6 months is nonsense. Cortese quit in January, that is only 4 months ago. Gareth was FD up until then. Funny isn't it 'all the indications' in January were that we were in meltdown and everyone was set to walk out. It didn't happen, here we are 4 months on and we still haven't melted down, so they must be doing something right. Poch confirming he was staying until the end of the season settled things down a lot since then but we are still in the same position with him, in that he's never committed to the club beyond the season. Players are more likely to angle for a move over the summer rather than in Jan and not as many clubs are in the market. I would be delighted to be completely wrong about the compentency of the new board and we start next season with an excellent squad and manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 25 May, 2014 Share Posted 25 May, 2014 The board have stated that players aren't for sale and that talks with the manager had/have begun. What else could they say? Agree The daily press articles dont help, but at the moment its speculation only and nobody has left. I will have faith in the board until they give us reason not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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