mynameisthehulk Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Am I the only one who gets ****ed of with posts that contain the words " it is clear that" or " it is obvious that" when we actually know nothing? We can all speculate/debate but in all honesty we can only guess at what is really going on. Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Am I the only one who gets ****ed of with posts that contain the words " it is clear that" or " it is obvious that" when we actually know nothing? We can all speculate/debate but in all honesty we can only guess at what is really going on. Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett24 Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 If he was staying why hasn't he ever put these rumours to bed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Do people really think Pochettino would just casually turn up to Spurs' training ground for talks? Even if he did want to be a naughty boy, I'd trust both he, his advisors, and Spurs would find a far more discreet way to talk - and most definitely not somewhere like Spurs' training ground. If he has been given permission to then no issue. He would have to visit the TG prior to be appointed surely, to see what the facilities are like. Ancelotti possibly rescuing his job so Poch to Spurs a goer according to the Telegraph. Pretty much every paper/Journo have reported Poch to Spurs, would they ALL get it wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/the-case-for-poch-to-be-new-manager-thread.108916/page-119 Interesting spin. This bit is interesting (though probably about as reliable as all the ITKs around here) The pics of Poch at HW yesterday ARE genuine. 4 security staff currently suspended. Spurs did not have permission to talk with Poch 1/2 So a lot of **** is going down with Saints right now. Saints considering options in terms of legal action. Levy and Poch met for 1 hour Daniel levy insisted the suspensions happen. Club also believe that the dip in odds are due to security staff leaking to friends. I'm told That Hotspur way is chaos at the moment with with the suspensions and leaks. Would spurs really meet with MP without asking permission and if the did would they not hold it somewhere private and faraway from anything to do with spurs (not to mention catching the evidence on camera)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 If he was staying why hasn't he ever put these rumours to bed! Good sense of humour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 24 May, 2014 This bit is interesting (though probably about as reliable as all the ITKs around here) The pics of Poch at HW yesterday ARE genuine. 4 security staff currently suspended. Spurs did not have permission to talk with Poch 1/2 So a lot of **** is going down with Saints right now. Saints considering options in terms of legal action. Levy and Poch met for 1 hour Daniel levy insisted the suspensions happen. Club also believe that the dip in odds are due to security staff leaking to friends. I'm told That Hotspur way is chaos at the moment with with the suspensions and leaks. Would spurs really meet with MP without asking permission and if the did would they not hold it somewhere private and faraway from anything to do with spurs (not to mention catching the evidence on camera)? Surely Saints have realised that MP has been speaking to Spurs, either officially or unofficially for a while? Naive in the extreme to think otherwise. Especially if he has been hesistant to commit to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersubpuckett Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 How about mopo to atletico? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 This bit is interesting (though probably about as reliable as all the ITKs around here) The pics of Poch at HW yesterday ARE genuine. 4 security staff currently suspended. Spurs did not have permission to talk with Poch 1/2 So a lot of **** is going down with Saints right now. Saints considering options in terms of legal action. Levy and Poch met for 1 hour Daniel levy insisted the suspensions happen. Club also believe that the dip in odds are due to security staff leaking to friends. I'm told That Hotspur way is chaos at the moment with with the suspensions and leaks. Would spurs really meet with MP without asking permission and if the did would they not hold it somewhere private and faraway from anything to do with spurs (not to mention catching the evidence on camera)? OK, so if Saints do take legal action, what may happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 If the picture is real, as some people said on the last thread. Then what is this black mass on Pochs' Shoulder? The 'glare' on the right also has a very strange smudge effect around Poch's youngest son's foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 What benefit is there to Spurs by not asking permission to speak with MP? None that I can readily see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 If he has been given permission to then no issue. He would have to visit the TG prior to be appointed surely, to see what the facilities are like. Ancelotti possibly rescuing his job so Poch to Spurs a goer according to the Telegraph. Pretty much every paper/Journo have reported Poch to Spurs, would they ALL get it wrong? If he has been given permission it would be in the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 24 May, 2014 What benefit is there to Spurs by not asking permission to speak with MP? None that I can readily see? Chance for both sides to see if the other is right for them. Would be embarassing for MP if Spurs made an official approach and then the move didnt happen. Commonplace for agents and intermediaries to hold talks then the official approach is a rubber stamp. Once the approach comes it signals that MP has suggested to Spurs that he is keen on the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 24 May, 2014 If he has been given permission it would be in the news. Only if both sides agreed for it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneawol Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Southampton boss Mauricio Pochettino set to stay - if his leading players are not sold http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/southampton-boss-mauricio-pochettino-set-3601798 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Peter White was the guy with the Dalian Wanda article right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Oh FFS, he's going, he's staying, he's going, he's staying. Can't these papers make up their minds. And as for the Mirror article...."switch is now in doubt after boardroom differences at White Hart Lane" is a little at odds to MP staying if the players aren't sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 This post on that Spurs forum made me laugh: If you were Pochettino, you wouldn't be so childish. You'd know perfectly well that a club like Tottenham Hotspur will be looking at a lot of big name managers - some of them considerably bigger names than you - and you wouldn't throw your toys out of the pram about it. You'd just be thrilled if you were eventually offered the job - a job which will pay you far more than your current job and which will allow you to work with far better players and have the opportunity to achieve greater things in the game. Its the typical Spurs "We're a big club honest guv" deluded drivel that comes out of most spuds fan's mouths. Come on Mauricio - you should be thrilled to take over such a massive club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 I have disliked Spurs for a very long time and this saga hasn't made me change my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Only if both sides agreed for it to be. There is no way Pochettino being allowed to talk to Spurs could be kept a secret. No way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 I simply cannot believe MP or his agent would be so stupid as to go to visit Spuds without permission. If he had permission then fine. If he didn't then I would sue the ass off Spurs, put MP on Garden leave for a year just to spite him and use him doing this illegally to motivate the players while using Spurs money to pay him and of course fund a replacement. Something ain't right that's f'sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 I think he is going to stay with us - but maybe he is getting a bit too big for his boots and will just be causing a lot of trouble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 I think he is going to stay with us - but maybe he is getting a bit too big for his boots and will just be causing a lot of trouble? Yeah, bit like Lallana, shaw, lovren and Morgan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Southampton boss Mauricio Pochettino set to stay - if his leading players are not sold http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/southampton-boss-mauricio-pochettino-set-3601798 Quite a funny article. Lots of no brainer statements there plus pretty clear by all accounts that Lallana and Shaw will go so then its kind of a redundant argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Im sure Krugar said that next season starts now or words to that effect after the utd game. So surely that includes the manager getting tied down, it is 2 weeks since the season finished and still the manager isnt sorted. Imo he is off on that basis as MP has already said that he will talk at the end of the season and im sure the contract would of already been drawn up for then Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk He also said MP has a year left on his contract, and even if a manager had a 20 year contract with a club he may not be there two years later. As it stands we have a manager under contract so don't need nor particularly expect a contract signing - can see him seeing this one run for while. Press insisted players and manager would be gone within days of end of season..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 If the picture is real, as some people said on the last thread. Then what is this black mass on Pochs' Shoulder? The 'glare' on the right also has a very strange smudge effect around Poch's youngest son's foot. On 6th May Poch and his sons went into Hendy Ford in Easteligh to buy a car for his eldest. My mate who works there text me when he walked in there at the time. Could this be from there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Quite a funny article. Lots of no brainer statements there plus pretty clear by all accounts that Lallana and Shaw will go so then its kind of a redundant argument. Far from clear. Club said they wont be sold, players not asked for transfer, initial press reports proved false. They may go, but got feeling most/all will stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 On 6th May Poch and his sons went into Hendy Ford in Easteligh to buy a car for his eldest. My mate who works there text me when he walked in there at the time. Could this be from there? Does hendy ford have electronic security gates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Far from clear. Club said they wont be sold, players not asked for transfer, initial press reports proved false. They may go, but got feeling most/all will stay. People on here who personally know the Lallana family think he is going. Will be very hard to keep Shaw. Schneiderlin touting himself for a CL club and talking about Saints in the past tense. Croatian Journalist saying he has been told Lovren to Liverpool will happen. Hopefully these won't all happen, but some will almost certainly IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 If he was staying why hasn't he ever put these rumours to bed! Because he probably doesn't follow this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Does hendy ford have electronic security gates Dunno but a back room private staff area might? Edit: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 People on here who personally know the Lallana family think he is going. Will be very hard to keep Shaw. Schneiderlin touting himself for a CL club and talking about Saints in the past tense. Croatian Journalist saying he has been told Lovren to Liverpool will happen. Hopefully these won't all happen, but some will almost certainly IMO. Lallana's best mate said he will stay. You're too negative. If we sell them then pipe up. Lovren said he's happy to stay too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jim Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 This bit is interesting (though probably about as reliable as all the ITKs around here) The pics of Poch at HW yesterday ARE genuine. 4 security staff currently suspended. Spurs did not have permission to talk with Poch 1/2 So a lot of **** is going down with Saints right now. Saints considering options in terms of legal action. Levy and Poch met for 1 hour Daniel levy insisted the suspensions happen. Club also believe that the dip in odds are due to security staff leaking to friends. I'm told That Hotspur way is chaos at the moment with with the suspensions and leaks. Would spurs really meet with MP without asking permission and if the did would they not hold it somewhere private and faraway from anything to do with spurs (not to mention catching the evidence on camera)? Personally I think its a load of b0110cks. Why on earth would he take his sons along to meet with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Dunno but a back room private staff area might? Edit: LOL ....no :mcinnes::mcinnes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Paul C Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 On 6th May Poch and his sons went into Hendy Ford in Easteligh to buy a car for his eldest. My mate who works there text me when he walked in there at the time. Could this be from there? What's on that list of departments etc to the left of "Maurrico " ? Looks like a list of tenanted companies or departments to me. Is that in a private hospital or university research building? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 LOL ....no :mcinnes::mcinnes: Okay smart arse, I've never been in the building. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerox Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 feck me what a load of old grannies pussy's on here! as mick channon said when the don left - we have been here for over 125 years, i,m sure we can cope with someone leaving! get a grip ffs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenSaint Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Probably old news but... http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/23/mauricio-pochettino-to-remain-at-southampton-and-snub-tottenhams-advances-4737950/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 People on here who personally know the Lallana family think he is going. Will be very hard to keep Shaw. Schneiderlin touting himself for a CL club and talking about Saints in the past tense. Croatian Journalist saying he has been told Lovren to Liverpool will happen. Hopefully these won't all happen, but some will almost certainly IMO. Must be pretty dark in your world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Latest headlines seem to point to Pochettino staying Southampton boss Mauricio Pochettino set to stay - if his leading players are not ... Mirror.co.uk - Il y a 48 minutes Pochettino was expected to become Tottenham manager this summer, but that switch is now in serious doubt because of a boardroom split at White Hart Lane. He is already believed to have had preliminary talks with Saints chairman Ralph Krueger and ... Tottenham Hotspur ready to move for Southampton manager Mauricio ... Telegraph.co.uk - Il y a 6 heures Pochettino, 42, is the kind of dynamic training-ground coach Spurs want and a crucial factor in their interest in him is the hope that he will be able to get the best out of the foreign players, notably fellow Argentine Erik Lamela, who were acquired last summer. Mauricio Pochettino set to snub Spurs and sign new Southampton deal Squawka Football News - Il y a 5 heures Southampton have been handed great news as Mauricio Pochettino is set to snub Tottenham Hotspur's advances and sign a new deal at the south coast club, according to the Metro. Spurs sacked Tim Sherwood in the week after the Premier League season ... Premier League: Blow for Spurs as Pochettino looks to stay at Southampton Football Trade Directory - Il y a 8 heures Southampton's much acclaimed boss, Mauricio Pochettino has been touted as the next Spurs boss, with suggestions Tim Sherwood would go in the opposite direction. But the lure of White Hart Lane does not look as though it has worked and Pochettino looks ... Spurs Snubbed as Mauricio Pochettino Set to Stay at Southampton FTBpro - Il y a 14 heures Tottenham Hotspur will have to look elsewhere for a manager as Mauricio Pochettino looks set to sign a new contract keeping him at St Mary's for another season the Metro newspaper reports. His future has been in doubt ever since chairman Nicola Cortese ... Pochettino poised to sign new Southampton contract A Different League - Il y a 13 heures Spurs are thought to have made Pochettino one of their main candidates to replace the recenty departed Tim Sherwood, while the Argentine's future at the St. Mary's Stadium has also been in doubt due to the resignation of former chairman Nicola Cortese in ... Pochettino snubs Spurs! Tottenham rejected as Southampton boss prepares to ... Express.co.uk - 23 mai 2014 Reports claim that Pochettino is ready to end speculation over his Saints future by putting pen to paper on a brand new contract. The Argentine has received universal plaudits for his stylish football and emphasis on home grown players. The 42-year-old has ... Daniel Levy's Ruthlessness Expected to Dissuade Leading Contender For ... International Business Times UK - 23 mai 2014 And Saints legend Matthew le Tissier says the manner in which Moyes' status has been damaged coupled with Levy's own policy at Tottenham means Pochettino, who is the bookmakers' favourite for the role, should think twice about moving to the capital. Mauricio Pochettino to remain at Southampton? Sports Mole - Il y a 14 heures Pochettino had been considered the favourite to replace Tim Sherwood at White Hart Lane, but it now looks increasingly likely that the Argentine will remain at St Mary's Stadium. According to The Metro, the former Espanyol coach has decided to sign a new ... A lack of manager progress could leave Spurs lagging on the transfer front HITC - 23 mai 2014 Frank de Boer, who has won 4 Eredivisie titles in 4 seasons of management, has at one point said he would be interested in talking to Spurs. Southampton's Mauricio Pochettino is another who has done little to dissuade a switch ahead of rumours that he is ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Must be pretty dark in your world What's the alternative? Stick your fingers in your ears and pretend that it's all a complete mistake? Happy clap me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Must be pretty dark in your world Haha. Why? I don't want these players to go. But people who post saying they think all our players will stay are leaving in another world. Listen to Krueger, listen to Lallana, listen to Schneiderlin, listen to Poch refuse to commit himself. If the Mirror think he will stay if the players stay then great, and fans that think they all will - great too. Being realistic doesn't mean you are dark or a Pompey fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 People on here who have vague tenuous links to the Lallana family "think" he is going. /QUOTE] Sorted for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block34 Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 This bit is interesting (though probably about as reliable as all the ITKs around here) The pics of Poch at HW yesterday ARE genuine. 4 security staff currently suspended. Spurs did not have permission to talk with Poch 1/2 So a lot of **** is going down with Saints right now. Saints considering options in terms of legal action. Levy and Poch met for 1 hour Daniel levy insisted the suspensions happen. Club also believe that the dip in odds are due to security staff leaking to friends. I'm told That Hotspur way is chaos at the moment with with the suspensions and leaks. Would spurs really meet with MP without asking permission and if the did would they not hold it somewhere private and faraway from anything to do with spurs (not to mention catching the evidence on camera)? ok, this is where the quote is from (http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/the-case-for-poch-to-be-new-manager-thread.108916/page-119)....... "@e_spurs The pics of Poch at HW yesterday ARE genuine. 4 security staff currently suspended. Spurs did not have permission to talk with Poch....." ...the next post from there is this..... " e_Spurs aren't a source of inside information. " ...followed by.... "The e-spurs guy is a genuine Spurs fan but he gets everything wrong and acts like an ITK when he's not. " as the man said "lies spread quicker than the truth" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Haha. Why? I don't want these players to go. But people who post saying they think all our players will stay are leaving in another world. Listen to Krueger, listen to Lallana, listen to Schneiderlin, listen to Poch refuse to commit himself. If the Mirror think he will stay if the players stay then great, and fans that think they all will - great too. Being realistic doesn't mean you are dark or a Pompey fan! Don't lie, you can't wait for them to leave so you can continue your board bashing and proclaim that this would never have happened under Nik Nak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Don't lie, you can't wait for them to leave so you can continue your board bashing and proclaim that this would never have happened under Nik Nak Yes. Obviously I want all our best players to leave. Seriously what sort of logic is that? This season has been superb with these players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 (edited) If the picture is real, as some people said on the last thread. Then what is this black mass on Pochs' Shoulder? The 'glare' on the right also has a very strange smudge effect around Poch's youngest son's foot. Pochettino's younger son also appears to have an extraordinarily long left leg. His elder son, it seems, has very short legs and no feet. Edited 24 May, 2014 by Fowllyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Don't lie, you can't wait for them to leave so you can continue your board bashing and proclaim that this would never have happened under Nik Nak Yes. Obviously I want all our best players to leave. Seriously what sort of logic is that? This season has been superb with these players. Thing is he is right you come across as totally agenda driven these days (in fact ever since NC left) you just seem to be wishing for it to go tits up so you can say told you so and bash the new board. What ever your true feelings that's how you're coming across HTBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 24 May, 2014 Share Posted 24 May, 2014 At the risk of upsetting the anti "it is clear" brigade one thing is clear to me. He's not fannying around undecided whether to leave. Torn between loyalty to the club that gave him his break , and the ambition of joining a bigger club. If he doesn't sign for spurs, its not because he didn't want to leave. Either they didn't want him, or he feels that the particular job isn't right at present. He's playing us, waiting for a better offer and if one doesn't come it'll be spun as Poch snubs Spurs. This won't be popular on here ,but if I was in ralphs shoes I know what I'd do. When he calls and says "Ducky, I've rejected levy and want to sign that contract", id say "**** off ,we'll talk about it next season when the one you've got runs out". We are starting to look like a desperado whose wife is having an affair, we're waiting at home desperately hoping she will come back to us , where all will be forgiven. We should **** him off and go on the pull, cause he'll be putting it about again soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 24 May, 2014 Thing is he is right you come across as totally agenda driven these days (in fact ever since NC left) you just seem to be wishing for it to go tits up so you can say told you so and bash the new board. What ever your true feelings that's how you're coming across HTBH. No. Im not wishing for it to go tits up. Im bashing the new board because they aren't appearing to be doing a good job. If they were, I would be happy. Im sure most fans arent that happy at the moment so its ok to say that surely rather than pretend its all great? People say "we will keep all our players" and it has no base but that is ok because its a positive thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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