Saint_Tony Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 He's not quite deserving of the title yet due to his poor record. Maybe the Argentinian Paul Jewell? Also a career win percentage of 34%, so a near enough identical record to MP (or MoPo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 I wish you'd never said that. You just know that Glasgow is going to call Mauricio the Argentinian Mick McCarthy now. Bit unfair on Mick, I'd have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Have we really needed to drop as low as Mick McCarthy to find a manager with a lower points per game ratio? To find a perm manager with a lower career win % than Mopo try Paul Dickov and erm James Beattie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 MP is the Argentine Steve McClaren, Middlesbrough era. We just need an astonishing Europa League run to match what Brolly man achieved with his young team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Mick McCarthy has a win percentage of 40% compared to MPs 34%. Under MP we average 1.40 points per game. This is the minimum McCarthy has achieved at any club he's managed. He also has managed at International level, and shows more passion on the touchline. Should we look to bring him in as a replacement in the summer if he fails to take Ipswich up?[/QUOTE] Sort of answered your own Question, IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Have I? He's done well to get them where they are, even getting a good goal return out of a **** poor player in David McGoldrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Mick McCarthy is a very good manager, got to say. but all the same he has a less than 20% win record in the PL. Whether that's good or not I just couldn't say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 21 April, 2014 Share Posted 21 April, 2014 Have we really needed to drop as low as Mick McCarthy to find a manager with a lower points per game ratio? To find a perm manager with a lower career win % than Mopo try Paul Dickov and erm James Beattie What was Adkins or Holly at Palace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett24 Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 Cannot understand why Man Utd would consider Pochettino's, I really believe with the team we have we should have got more points this season already. For me, next season is a massive test for him, he needs to improve again. To a lesser extent also, not sure why Spurs would want him, never won anything or qualified for europe. I would hate to lose him but taking him would be a massive gamble for Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 I really believe with the team we have we should have got more points this season already. It's only under Pochettino's direction that these players have proven that they're capable of pushing that high, though. Rodriguez, Lallana, Fonte, Davis, Shaw, Chambers and Ward-Prowse have all improved under him, some massively so. There's room for more, though, and Mauricio will be the first person to tell you that. We have a great team but it might not have been so great without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 Cannot understand why Man Utd would consider Pochettino's, I really believe with the team we have we should have got more points this season already. For me, next season is a massive test for him, he needs to improve again. To a lesser extent also, not sure why Spurs would want him, never won anything or qualified for europe. I would hate to lose him but taking him would be a massive gamble for Spurs. Brendan Rodger never really won anything either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 (edited) Alex Goring Crook @alex_crook Newspaper reports in both Spain and Italy today linking Pochettino with AC Milan #saintsfc #thfc http://www.corrieredellosport.it/calcio_mercato/2014/04/22-358395/ MILAN - AC Milan's first choice for the bench of the future is Mauricio Pochettino. Do not mince words Mundo Deportivo. The former Espanyol, currently manager of Southampton, is referred to as the perfect coach for the revival of the Rossoneri, when you close the era Seedorf, whose fate seems tied to the next two games against Roma and Inter. Would be honored to know a little bit new league in Spain claim that there has already been a first contact scoured to understand the contractual situation of the coach.The only obstacle could be the hiring of over one and a half million Euros. http://www.mundodeportivo.com/20140422/futbol/internacional/el-milan-pretende-fichar-a-pochettino_54406024455.html Former Espanyol coach Mauricio Pochettino can become Milan coach next season. The Lombards leaders are not too happy with the work that is playing Clarence Seedorf and though he left the remainder of this season and two more contract, are seeking a formula to terminate the commitment if it ends this year. The Dutch, who arrived last January as Massimiliano Allegri replacement to revive the Lombard whole has not led the team by winning ways. Ranked seventh in the standings with 51 points and lies 39 points behind leaders Juventus.His office is on the ropes and his position is played in the next two games against Roma and Inter. If Rossoneri I lose both commitments, would be stopped. Pippo Inzaghi, coach of the 'spring' (subsidiary) of Milan, will replace interim basis until the end of league. Milan's first choice for next season is Pochettino. Italian leaders see him as the perfect coach for the team into one of the most valued both nationally and internationally. Already have groped the agent of former Espanyol coach to know their situation in Southampton. Al Facu fits the rest of this season and another with English entity. He has done a good job in the Premier but naturally would be happy with the idea of leading the Italian team besides knowing a new championship. The economic issue might be the only point that might alienate Pochettino Milan. The Milanese club is not about to pay more than 1.5 million euros per season. Edited 22 April, 2014 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 Alex Goring Crook @alex_crook Newspaper reports in both Spain and Italy today linking Pochettino with AC Milan #saintsfc #thfc http://www.corrieredellosport.it/calcio_mercato/2014/04/22-358395/ Given up on Seedorf already then have they ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 Alex Goring Crook @alex_crook Newspaper reports in both Spain and Italy today linking Pochettino with AC Milan #saintsfc #thfc http://www.corrieredellosport.it/calcio_mercato/2014/04/22-358395/ With Cortese installed as Chairman? Would surprise me as Poch has already said that he wants to stay in the Premier League. Let's hope he realises what a reactive, basket-case of a club Spurs is, and that our board take some decisive action while the rumour-mill focuses on the happenings at Old Trafford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 (edited) It's only under Pochettino's direction that these players have proven that they're capable of pushing that high, though. Rodriguez, Lallana, Fonte, Davis, Shaw, Chambers and Ward-Prowse have all improved under him, some massively so. There's room for more, though, and Mauricio will be the first person to tell you that. We have a great team but it might not have been so great without him. I think you missed one - Lovren. He was going nowhere playing in France despite promise and international caps yet appeared World Class at times playing at Saints under Poch. Most interesting for me was not only has Poch picked young players - as he said he would - but that he also got a lot out of older players. I am not certain of the stats but am fairly confident we played the youngest team in the EPL this year and had the most English teenagers on the pitch at the same time for more minutes than any other team this season. And we finished likely eighth. What will they be like next season with this year under their belts and no doubt a few more pushing through from below? What other manager would have been doing that with the yoof in the EPL? Poch has got a recognizable style and it includes playing domestic yoof - something which is rapidly becoming a must-have quality teams are looking for in the ffp times of elite level football.. Lets have a look at a few of the other contenders: Fat Sam? You got to be kidding me. He has one of the best young talents in english football in Ravel Morrison and he loans him out! Mourinho? You cannot be serious. Ryan Bertrand plays for Everton as does Lukaku. Jack Cork is a Saint. JM is no good for young english players. period. Martinez- yeah hes ok with the yoof. Pellegrino: not a chance. The closest he gets is letting his youngish english cb get splinters wasting a great potential. Pardew-yes- if they are french.But hes not got long left before hes sacked... Wenger- yes he has got principles + does try - in capital cup and at least he knows a good young english player when he sees one... wilshire oxo and theo are good young players. Many of his foreign young ones are hit and miss though... Rodgers: yeah he's good too. A bit easier when you got suarez and gerrard to build a team around I'd say though. Bruce, Hughes and Pulis - get outta here. Moyes: not really. Nice guy but bit tactically limited and who apart from Janusci has he got through this year? And thats only a few minutes here and there. Even the young english contingent of man utd players all look mediocre at best this season. Not one has "moved up"- even Welbeck - whilst others notably went backwards... Villas boas/sherwood: nah, S is just picking his best players available and asking them to play whilst AVB was all style no substance at spurs. Lambert: tactically inept. Gus Poetry in motion. lol. nope. nope. nope. Chris Hughton: nope- how can you NOT play Redmond if he's a norwich player in that team? Has to start has to be developed has to play.But did not. Would have done under Poch. Pepe Mel : has had no chance Magath: has had little chance but is just chucking whoever hes got out there. OGS: : ditto. Garry monk: ditto. Looking at it from that perspective you'd have to say Mopo has been outstanding for Saints and for English football. Edited 22 April, 2014 by Giordano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 With Cortese installed as Chairman? Would surprise me as Poch has already said that he wants to stay in the Premier League. Let's hope he realises what a reactive, basket-case of a club Spurs is, and that our board take some decisive action while the rumour-mill focuses on the happenings at Old Trafford. To take "decisive action" our board will need to double his salary and promise him a respectable transfer budget for next season with no "committee" input. Sounds pretty simple actually, don't know why they're not getting on with it unless of course Mauricio is stalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 I think you missed one - Lovren. He was going nowhere playing in France despite promise and international caps yet appeared World Class at times playing at Saints under Poch. Most interesting for me was not only has Poch picked young players - as he said he would - but that he also got a lot out of older players. I am not certain of the stats but am fairly confident we played the youngest team in the EPL this year and had the most English teenagers on the pitch at the same time for more minutes than any other team this season. And we finished likely eighth. What will they be like next season with this year under their belts and no doubt a few more pushing through from below? What other manager would have been doing that with the yoof in the EPL? Poch has got a recognizable style and it includes playing domestic yoof - something which is rapidly becoming a must-have quality teams are looking for in the ffp times of elite level football.. Lets have a look at a few of the other contenders: Fat Sam? You got to be kidding me. He has one of the best young talents in english football in Ravel Morrison and he loans him out! Mourinho? You cannot be serious. Ryan Bertrand plays for Everton as does Lukaku. Jack Cork is a Saint. JM is no good for young english players. period. Martinez- yeah hes ok with the yoof. Pellegrino: not a chance. The closest he gets is letting his youngish english cb get splinters wasting a great potential. Pardew-yes- if they are french.But hes not got long left before hes sacked... Wenger- yes he has got principles + does try - in capital cup and at least he knows a good young english player when he sees one... wilshire oxo and theo are good young players. Many of his foreign young ones are hit and miss though... Rodgers: yeah he's good too. A bit easier when you got suarez and gerrard to build a team around I'd say though. Bruce, Hughes and Pulis - get outta here. Moyes: not really. Nice guy but bit tactically limited and who apart from Janusci has he got through this year? And thats only a few minutes here and there. Even the young english contingent of man utd players all look mediocre at best this season. Not one has "moved up"- even Welbeck - whilst others notably went backwards... Villas boas/sherwood: nah, S is just picking his best players available and asking them to play whilst AVB was all style no substance at spurs. Lambert: tactically inept. Gus Poetry in motion. lol. nope. nope. nope. Chris Hughton: nope- how can you NOT play Redmond if he's a norwich player in that team? Has to start has to be developed has to play.But did not. Would have done under Poch. Pepe Mel : has had no chance Magath: has had little chance but is just chucking whoever hes got out there. OGS: : ditto. Garry monk: ditto. Looking at it from that perspective you'd have to say Mopo has been outstanding for Saints and for English football. You're doing Paul Lambert a disservice. I believe Villa are the youngest team on average and he's stuck by his boys even in tough times. I don't know whether he's failing to improve them or whether he's got less talent to work with in the first place but you can't knock him for effort. Magath's got some boys out there as well - brave or foolish in the context of a relegation scrap, I don't know. Tim Sherwood is also to be admired for his selections. He hasn't got a great wealth of young Englishmen but Rose, Kane and (the admittedly foreign) Bentaleb are getting regular game time now over some expensive egos. Harry Kane's getting a game over the man who became their record signing in the summer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 You're doing Paul Lambert a disservice. I believe Villa are the youngest team on average and he's stuck by his boys even in tough times. I don't know whether he's failing to improve them or whether he's got less talent to work with in the first place but you can't knock him for effort. Magath's got some boys out there as well - brave or foolish in the context of a relegation scrap, I don't know. Tim Sherwood is also to be admired for his selections. He hasn't got a great wealth of young Englishmen but Rose, Kane and (the admittedly foreign) Bentaleb are getting regular game time now over some expensive egos. Harry Kane's getting a game over the man who became their record signing in the summer! Exactly. MP has done a good job for us and he seems to enjoy working with young up and coming players, but its easy to get carried away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 22 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 22 April, 2014 I am absolutely amazed that the club haven't appeared to make a conscious effort to sign Pochettino up longer term. Either they are i.) Completely confident he will stay ii.) Already aware he won't be or iii.) Completely unaware of how football works and how much of a cut throat business it is. If we let one of the best Managers we have had in 20 years, leave limply at the end of the season then it will be hard to have much faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 Milan will only go for Pochettino if they can't get Macarthy. Pochettino is clearly an excellent coach though. The only thing separating us from the top four teams is a decent striker and some more strength in depth. In terms of the level of play achieved, there's really nothing much in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 The only thing separating us from the top four teams is a decent striker and some more strength in depth. So about £40m of expenditure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 (edited) Alex Goring Crook @alex_crook Newspaper reports in both Spain and Italy today linking Pochettino with AC Milan #saintsfc #thfc http://www.corrieredellosport.it/calcio_mercato/2014/04/22-358395/ http://www.mundodeportivo.com/20140422/futbol/internacional/el-milan-pretende-fichar-a-pochettino_54406024455.html I honestly think this is sh*t stirring from Cortese. He did a fantastic job for the club, but I wish he'd just f*ck off and leave us alone, rather than plant de-stabilising stories in the press about our management and players. Edited 22 April, 2014 by Wade Garrett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 As posted on the Moyes leaving thread. indykaila News @indykaila 5m Exclusive: Southampton manager Mauricio Pochettino has been added to the Manchester United manager shortlist. #MUFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 (edited) Exactly. MP has done a good job for us and he seems to enjoy working with young up and coming players, but its easy to get carried away. I still believe Pochettino is the best by a way. However, he has a great pool of young talent without the big names to keep happy, like Sherwood does. Tim's situation comes with its own challenges, but it looks like he's not keeping those players happy and will lose his job as a result. I honestly think this is sh*t stirring from Cortese. He did a fantastic job for the club, but I wish he'd just f*ck off and leave us alone, rather than plant de-stabilising stories in the press about our management and players. If Cortese really is planting stories, it won't just be out of spite. Surely he's got better things to do than brief journalists without a useful purpose. Edited 22 April, 2014 by DuncanRG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 Double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 Indykaila, I can't believe he still peddles his nonsense. http://indyliar.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 As posted on the Moyes leaving thread. indykaila News @indykaila 5m Exclusive: Southampton manager Mauricio Pochettino has been added to the Manchester United manager shortlist. #MUFC Nope, sorry, just don't buy that. Having c*cked up with Moyse's appointment, United will want to make amends and show they are still a world power with a statement marque managerial appointment. As good as he is, MoPo is not that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 As posted on the Moyes leaving thread. indykaila News @indykaila 5m Exclusive: Southampton manager Mauricio Pochettino has been added to the Manchester United manager shortlist. #MUFC That chap is possibly the least reliable / original "source" on twitter, and that's saying something as there is stiff competition for that crown! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 You're doing Paul Lambert a disservice. I believe Villa are the youngest team on average and he's stuck by his boys even in tough times. I don't know whether he's failing to improve them or whether he's got less talent to work with in the first place but you can't knock him for effort. Magath's got some boys out there as well - brave or foolish in the context of a relegation scrap, I don't know. Tim Sherwood is also to be admired for his selections. He hasn't got a great wealth of young Englishmen but Rose, Kane and (the admittedly foreign) Bentaleb are getting regular game time now over some expensive egos. Harry Kane's getting a game over the man who became their record signing in the summer! Yes i guess so regarding lambert - he does play young english players but they are not as good as ours! Villa have been very up and down this season - perhaps the kids are not disciplined enough to obey his orders consistently is more the problem. Beating arsenal away for instance great result but benteke is not the same player of last season and Allbrighton and delph only plays one good match every three... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 So about £40m of expenditure? Wouldn't have to be that much. Bony and Sturridge each cost about twelve million. We should be able to raise at least that through selling Osvaldo and Mayuka. The main challenge is finding a good enough striker who is happy to join a side outside the very top level and doesn't command an unaffordable wage. Tricky, but there are some out there. Probably not in the Prem or even the Championship but in Holland, France, Germany etc. We could find a Pahars bargain. Then another keeper, a centre back and an attacking midfielder (could probably cover the attacking player through selling Ramirez if we wanted). I'm not saying it's easy but criticising MPis retarded. He's got a great level of performance out of the resources available. I would go as far as saying that if you took Suarez out of Liverpool and stuck him in our team, we would probably be above them. Give Brendan Rogers a glacial striker and see how Liverpool get on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 I wouldn't set too many hopes on obtaining much for Mayuka, he's absolute rubbish and a permanent bench warmer at Sochaux. If we get 1.5 million for him we'll have done bloody well. Can't see what possessed us to buy him in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 Wouldn't have to be that much. Bony and Sturridge each cost about twelve million. We should be able to raise at least that through selling Osvaldo and Mayuka. The main challenge is finding a good enough striker who is happy to join a side outside the very top level and doesn't command an unaffordable wage. Tricky, but there are some out there. Probably not in the Prem or even the Championship but in Holland, France, Germany etc. We could find a Pahars bargain. Then another keeper, a centre back and an attacking midfielder (could probably cover the attacking player through selling Ramirez if we wanted). I'm not saying it's easy but criticising MPis retarded. He's got a great level of performance out of the resources available. I would go as far as saying that if you took Suarez out of Liverpool and stuck him in our team, we would probably be above them. Give Brendan Rogers a glacial striker and see how Liverpool get on. We wouldn't be top of the league if we had Suarez but we'd be a whole lot better. Who wouldn't? Also, are you implying Lambert is 'glacial'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 I honestly think this is sh*t stirring from Cortese. He did a fantastic job for the club, but I wish he'd just f*ck off and leave us alone, rather than plant de-stabilising stories in the press about our management and players. This is a great shout and highly likely. We already know how chummy the Italian was with certain media contacts, and no doubt he's still at it, especially now his weasel shaped head has been yanked out of the SFC trough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 Wouldn't have to be that much. Bony and Sturridge each cost about twelve million. We should be able to raise at least that through selling Osvaldo and Mayuka. The main challenge is finding a good enough striker who is happy to join a side outside the very top level and doesn't command an unaffordable wage. Tricky, but there are some out there. Probably not in the Prem or even the Championship but in Holland, France, Germany etc. We could find a Pahars bargain. Then another keeper, a centre back and an attacking midfielder (could probably cover the attacking player through selling Ramirez if we wanted). I'm not saying it's easy but criticising MPis retarded. He's got a great level of performance out of the resources available. I would go as far as saying that if you took Suarez out of Liverpool and stuck him in our team, we would probably be above them. Give Brendan Rogers a glacial striker and see how Liverpool get on. Suarez has been brilliant this season, as has Sturrudge, Sterling, Gerrard, Coutinho very good as well, for us to assemble a team to get into the top 4, we would need some serious expediture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 I am absolutely amazed that the club haven't appeared to make a conscious effort to sign Pochettino up longer term. Either they are i.) Completely confident he will stay ii.) Already aware he won't be or iii.) Completely unaware of how football works and how much of a cut throat business it is. If we let one of the best Managers we have had in 20 years, leave limply at the end of the season then it will be hard to have much faith. or (iv) the club have already made a very conscious effort and MP does not want to discuss in any detail until after the season (and the Club have decided not to make a big public statement about it, or tell you) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 Suarez has been brilliant this season, as has Sturrudge, Sterling, Gerrard, Coutinho very good as well, for us to assemble a team to get into the top 4, we would need some serious expediture. Get your point, but havent Jay Rod, Morgan, Luke and Adam been brilliant too? Plus Lovren for at least half the season? I would love to have the players you mention from Liverpool but we have a few decent ones too, so to compare, we are not starting from scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 Get your point, but havent Jay Rod, Morgan, Luke and Adam been brilliant too? Plus Lovren for at least half the season? I would love to have the players you mention from Liverpool but we have a few decent ones too, so to compare, we are not starting from scratch Where have I suggested we're starting from scratch? I'm not sure what your point is though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 Get your point, but havent Jay Rod, Morgan, Luke and Adam been brilliant too? Plus Lovren for at least half the season? I would love to have the players you mention from Liverpool but we have a few decent ones too, so to compare, we are not starting from scratch Any reasonably efficient striker who we'd signed last summer would have greatly increased our points total this season, we got it all wrong and now we're left with the snail like Lambert and a leggy 18 year old who runs about a lot but can't control the ball correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 Any reasonably efficient striker who we'd signed last summer would have greatly increased our points total this season, we got it all wrong and now we're left with the snail like Lambert and a leggy 18 year old who runs about a lot but can't control the ball correctly. So it's just that easy? Why wasn't Osvaldo scoring a hatful over his time in the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 ..... and a leggy 18 year old who runs about a lot but can't control the ball correctly.A bit harsh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 and the music goes on... and on... and on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 A bit harsh! Not as I see it actually, his close control isn't great, perhaps he needs some more game time to get the hang of it. Shouldn't be anywhere near the first team as of yet anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 I am absolutely amazed that the club haven't appeared to make a conscious effort to sign Pochettino up longer term. Either they are i.) Completely confident he will stay ii.) Already aware he won't be or iii.) Completely unaware of how football works and how much of a cut throat business it is. If we let one of the best Managers we have had in 20 years, leave limply at the end of the season then it will be hard to have much faith. Why do people assume that because we havn't heard anything, that means that nothing is happening? Do people honestly think like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 22 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 22 April, 2014 Why do people assume that because we havn't heard anything, that means that nothing is happening? Do people honestly think like this? We have heard nothing is happening from both sides. Until end of season. Why wait? Pochettino said he hasnt had contract talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 (edited) or (iv) the club have already made a very conscious effort and MP does not want to discuss in any detail until after the season (and the Club have decided not to make a big public statement about it, or tell you) The impression I get from Adam Blackmore and the like is that Pochettino would talk if the club approached him, but they haven't yet. Doesn't mean he's desperate to start talks, only that he wouldn't refuse. It's not really his decision when to get going. They may want to leave it til the end of the season so he can focus on the players and their last few games. Maybe they're giving themselves time to prepare the right offer. That will be more than just a salary figure and transfer budget of course - they'll want to give him a vision of where they see the club going and what part the manager plays. There are all sorts of potential reasons they're waiting and besides, most managerial contracts don't get signed until May time. Nothing to worry about yet. If and when it's done they'll be quick to announce, but the players will hear first. Edited 22 April, 2014 by DuncanRG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 (edited) I am absolutely amazed that the club haven't appeared to make a conscious effort to sign Pochettino up longer term. Either they are i.) Completely confident he will stay ii.) Already aware he won't be or iii.) Completely unaware of how football works and how much of a cut throat business it is. If we let one of the best Managers we have had in 20 years, leave limply at the end of the season then it will be hard to have much faith. or iv) discussions are on-going or v) both parties agreed to delay them until the end of the season. We can speculate all we want but the real truth is that no-one knows the real truth. Edited 22 April, 2014 by St_Tel49 added word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 22 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 22 April, 2014 (edited) or iv) discussions are on-going or v) both parties agreed to delay them until the end of the season. We can speculate all we want but the truth is that no-one knows the real truth. Both parties might have agreed to do that but why would Saints want to wait? Surely better to sort now and start planning for next season now. Waiting has no benefit. He is a top Manager and the longer his situation is unclear the more interest will build in him. Waiting til end of season just adds more uncertainty, not just to fans but players hence all their comments in the media. Krueger's Guardian interview comments on it were bizarre too. Edited 22 April, 2014 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 Where have I suggested we're starting from scratch? I'm not sure what your point is though. Sorry, i thought you were suggesting we needed to add five top, top players akin to all of Liverpool's best. I was just saying we have a few that the Top 4 teams would like to have already, so perhaps the investment needed is not as huge as thought. As Benji said, there are some bargains out there and a goalscorer would be a major start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 So it's just that easy? Why wasn't Osvaldo scoring a hatful over his time in the team? As I said, any reasonably efficient striker, Osvaldo was anything but, did feck all for us except cause trouble and hasn't done any better at Juventus. We got that all wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 22 April, 2014 Share Posted 22 April, 2014 a leggy 18 year old who runs about a lot but can't control the ball correctly. I wouldn't be surprised if someone brings this up when Gallagher blossoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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