John Boy Saint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 You really have to scratch your head as to why anyone would want to go and be manager at Spurs especially when Tim Sherwood has stepped up to the plate and done well: even more so with the shadow of uncertainty cast over him that he has kept the players playing for him right up until the last day of the season. Unless of course when you look at AVB and his contract pay-offs from Chelsea and Spurs totalling a reputed £16m, with Levy's Jeckyll and Hyde mentality it's worth going to Spurs to do ok as the payoff when the wind changes is easier that winning the lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 For once I agree with NickG. I must be getting old. Speculation about the intentions of the KL and the Board are just as meaningless as speculation in the media about the manager and the star players. NickG refers to facts about KL's period as owner through the Leibherr Trust and its better to draw conclusions from facts rather than from guesswork. NickG does stray into speculation by saying that Shaw is not planning on going, which may or may not, be true. Only Luke Shaw truly knows what is in his mind. But back to facts, and amongst the facts is that Shaw and Lallana are both on long-term contracts therefore the club's agreement is needed to any transfer bid from other clubs, agreement that can be refused. So it is the intentions of KL and the Board that matter and the sooner we learn more about those the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 You really have to scratch your head as to why anyone would want to go and be manager at Spurs especially when Tim Sherwood has stepped up to the plate and done well: even more so with the shadow of uncertainty cast over him that he has kept the players playing for him right up until the last day of the season. Unless of course when you look at AVB and his contract pay-offs from Chelsea and Spurs totalling a reputed £16m, with Levy's Jeckyll and Hyde mentality it's worth going to Spurs to do ok as the payoff when the wind changes is easier that winning the lottery. Not bad for a couple of years of aggro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/west-brom-manager-tim-sherwood-3532973 Malky is also on WBA's radar supposedly... A lot of demand for a man who wasted 31m last summer, only managing one good signing. Would be a perfect replacement for Pochettino in that respect then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 I've said it before and I'll say it again. Uwe rossler ... If we lose mopo. But I'm still very hopeful we won't.did you watch the game last night? Wigan had no idea and seemed to me to just lump the ball in a hope that McLean could get onto it. Very disappinting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Would be a perfect replacement for Pochettino in that respect then. when h3e is gone you will miss be able to make sarky swipes. Forgetting that purchases are by committee not just the manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 After watching Wigan last night I really hope Saints board don't go all German countrymen on us and opt for Rosler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Tottenham Hotspur @SpursOfficial 2m The Club can announce that Tim Sherwood has left his coaching position at the Club. Here we go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Uh-oh. Sherwood gone, MoPo in today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 MP would be stupid to go to the joke that is THFC! Cash us the only reason he would go there as he will get sacked very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Did the PA announcer take the opportunity to play KC & The Sunshine Band's "Please Don't Go" last Saturday? It's our anthem for the summer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Tottenham Hotspur @SpursOfficial 2m The Club can announce that Tim Sherwood has left his coaching position at the Club. Here we go... Bunch of Clowns, it really does beggar belief. Don't fancy the next blokes chances, as I mentioned above Sherwood was obviously popular with the players as they were prepared carry on "fighting" for him despite him being on a one way street out of the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 MP would be stupid to go to the joke that is THFC! Cash us the only reason he would go there as he will get sacked very quickly. Maybe but they are a joke with EUROPEAN football and loads of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Haha you have to laugh.. We could go from potential European candidates next season to relegation favourites in the space of a few days at this rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 If Spurs take MP, lets hope it turns out the Hoddle Saga part II... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Be quite funny him leaving us because we can't keep our best players, so he goes to Spurs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 13 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Fairly obvious what happens now. Wonder if Reed and Krueger are still "comfortable with the situation"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Did Napoli finish in the CL this year? Not sure why Benitez would leave them for THFC if so. Mind you, he likes London and Spurs would offer £££££ compared to Serie A, plus I reckon he'd get more out that talented but un-balanced squad than MP would. There are actually people on this site that think RB would come to Saints. Um, hate to tell you this but the bloke has managed at Liverpool, Valencia, Chelsea, Inter and now Napoli. Just off the top of my head, he's won La Liga, CL, UEFA/Europa, Italian Cup, FA Cup and so on. The Spurs fans would get plenty of stick from their Chelsea oppos but the guy wins trophies despite his faults and that's their reposte. Mourinho played even more grinding football this season at Chelsea and won jack, despite his past track record and he wasn't much better at Real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Did Napoli finish in the CL this year? Not sure why Benitez would leave them for THFC if so. Mind you, he likes London and Spurs would offer £££££ compared to Serie A, plus I reckon he'd get more out that talented but un-balanced squad than MP would. There are actually people on this site that think RB would come to Saints. Um, hate to tell you this but the bloke has managed at Liverpool, Valencia, Chelsea, Inter and now Napoli. Just off the top of my head, he's won La Liga, CL, UEFA/Europa, Italian Cup, FA Cup and so on. The Spurs fans would get plenty of stick from their Chelsea oppos but the guy wins trophies despite his faults and that's their reposte. Mourinho played even more grinding football this season at Chelsea and won jack, despite his past track record and he wasn't much better at Real. Napoli were 2nd thus directly into the group stage of the CL. Mauricio is now favourite for the Spurs job again. Doesn't mean anything I supppose, especially if our board are prepared to match his ambition (and salary of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Napoli were 2nd thus directly into the group stage of the CL. Mauricio is now favourite for the Spurs job again. Doesn't mean anything I supppose, especially if our board are prepared to match his ambition (and salary of course). No they didn't. Roma finished 2nd, Napoli 3rd and into the play offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Who brought in Poch? NC had little footballing knowledge and would have been advised, was it Reed? Maybe if the worst happens and MP leaves we can trust him to find a similar gem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 (edited) Guillem Ballague on SSN saying that it's a crucial week for Saints regarding Poch, need to assure him players can be replaced and are able to match his ambitions. Monaco have approached him and also intermediates from Newcastle bizarrely. Also, in case any morons still need to be told, he's spoken English with the players since day 1 and can now speak near perfect English. Edited 13 May, 2014 by Dig Dig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Guillem Ballague on SSN saying that it's a crucial week for Saints regarding Poch, need to assure him players can be replaced and are able to match his ambitions. Monaco has approached him and also intermediates from Newcastle bizarrely. Also, in case any morons still need to be told, he's spoken English with the players since day 1 and can now speak near perfect English. Cheers for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Guillem Ballague on SSN saying that it's a crucial week for Saints regarding Poch, need to assure him players can be replaced and are able to match his ambitions. Monaco has approached him and also intermediates from Newcastle bizarrely. Also, in case any morons still need to be told, he's spoken English with the players since day 1 and can now speak near perfect English. Basically what Ive been saying, if he goes its a massive failure by the board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 (edited) Guillem Ballague on SSN saying that it's a crucial week for Saints regarding Poch, need to assure him players can be replaced and are able to match his ambitions. Monaco has approached him and also intermediates from Newcastle bizarrely. Also, in case any morons still need to be told, he's spoken English with the players since day 1 and can now speak near perfect English. Big news that. Monaco is a big project alright with lotsamoney. Newcastle, ahem, I don't think that a good match now that Mopo speaks perfect English ~ he will have to learn Geordie ( and French) the former far harder than English or French to speak let alone understand. :-) Edited 13 May, 2014 by Giordano sp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Big news that. Monaco is a big project alright with lotsamoney. Newcastle, ahem, I don't think that a good match now that Mopo speaks perfect English ~ he will have to learn Geordie ( and French) the former far harder than English or French to speak let alone understand. :-) Pochettino must have some basic grasp of French, he did a few years at PSG and Bordeaux. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Big news that. Monaco is a big project alright with lotsamoney. Newcastle, ahem, I don't think that a good match now that Mopo speaks perfect English ~ he will have to learn Geordie ( and French) the former far harder than English or French to speak let alone understand. :-) Pochettino played in France for 3 years with PSG and Bordeaux, I'd imagine his level of French is reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Big news that. Monaco is a big project alright with lotsamoney. Newcastle, ahem, I don't think that a good match now that Mopo speaks perfect English ~ he will have to learn Geordie ( and French) the former far harder than English or French to speak let alone understand. :-) Yea, Monaco is a big job but Poch wants to stay in the Prem which is at our advantage but also Spurs as well. Doubt Newcastle have any chance what so ever. Agree with Smirking, seems Poch wouldn't leave other than for footballing reason, this should be a 100% priority for the board, I doubt they would even come close to replacing him adequately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Guillem Ballague on SSN saying that it's a crucial week for Saints regarding Poch, need to assure him players can be replaced and are able to match his ambitions. Monaco have approached him and also intermediates from Newcastle bizarrely. Also, in case any morons still need to be told, he's spoken English with the players since day 1 and can now speak near perfect English. Why does he still use a translator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Basically what Ive been saying, if he goes its a massive failure by the board ...and why it was difficult to be totally confident in the new board whe they tookl over, despite those that were 'going wilde' that their nemesis NC had departed... and there in lies the problem. There are just too many similarities with the Wilde/Crouch, well intentioned, fan friendly but as without means, totally out of their depth in developing a strategy for the at that time. KL has the means, but its clear doesn not want to invest any more. That is her right and we can not hold that agaisnt her. However, I would question why she might not see the benefit of providing some funds for infrastructure that would allow the commercial revenue streams to be prioritised for the sporting side within the FFP regs.... beacsue the potential of this side to do even better is there - and that would in turn increase the value of her asset. It suggests that either they are not taking the advice from those who know this, dont believe it, or are simply not interested in the supporting that strategy... which is so frustrating given how obvious the potential for 2 or 3 years of continued progress is... IF we lose MP, Adam and Luke, we will lose ALL the momentum we have established and that is the biggest shame. As mentioned on the other thread, if we did not have the talent we do, or the potential, we could argue that 15th and above is great and we would all be happy... but we have shown much more than that, with more to come with the right yet mmodest investment... board need to show their mettle now and do what is right for the club... see the potential for progress lies with teh set up and players we have... not starting again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Basically what Ive been saying, if he goes its a massive failure by the board If MP gets an offer and decides to go, why would that be such a huge failure from the board. They obviously want to keep him, it'd be his choice to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Why does he still use a translator? Quite amazing that this question still comes up on this forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Why does he still use a translator? Job creation scheme in the provinces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Quite amazing that this question still comes up on this forum... What is the answer? I must have missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 If MP gets an offer and decides to go, why would that be such a huge failure from the board. They obviously want to keep him, it'd be his choice to leave.because their ambition is less than his own, that the were not offering a better package, they were going back on their word about giving him say who should leave,etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 because their ambition is less than his own, that the were not offering a better package, they were going back on their word about giving him say who should leave,etc You know all of that has happened? No, didn't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Suhari Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 ...and why it was difficult to be totally confident in the new board whe they tookl over, despite those that were 'going wilde' that their nemesis NC had departed... and there in lies the problem. There are just too many similarities with the Wilde/Crouch, well intentioned, fan friendly but as without means, totally out of their depth in developing a strategy for the at that time. KL has the means, but its clear doesn not want to invest any more. That is her right and we can not hold that agaisnt her. However, I would question why she might not see the benefit of providing some funds for infrastructure that would allow the commercial revenue streams to be prioritised for the sporting side within the FFP regs.... beacsue the potential of this side to do even better is there - and that would in turn increase the value of her asset. It suggests that either they are not taking the advice from those who know this, dont believe it, or are simply not interested in the supporting that strategy... which is so frustrating given how obvious the potential for 2 or 3 years of continued progress is... IF we lose MP, Adam and Luke, we will lose ALL the momentum we have established and that is the biggest shame. As mentioned on the other thread, if we did not have the talent we do, or the potential, we could argue that 15th and above is great and we would all be happy... but we have shown much more than that, with more to come with the right yet mmodest investment... board need to show their mettle now and do what is right for the club... see the potential for progress lies with teh set up and players we have... not starting again Where specifically has this been made clear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 What a load of old cobblers. So should we pay MP 200K per week just to keep him? And anyone who believes the club can stop anyone leaving who really wants to leave is naive at best and stupid at worst. We are not a top, top side and if players want to leave they will: Ronaldo left Man U despite man U wanting to keep him, Everton have lost key players like Felliani, Rodwell, Rooney, etc. so to think we can simply say we should be in a position to keep all our players is ridiculous. It is a sign of how far we have come that so many top clubs want our players. And the same people who were complaining about how the Skates got away with it re. their overspend are now seriously suggesting we should break the bank or we "lack ambition". You couldn't make it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Next few weeks will be crucial for this club and will show where we are aiming to be in the next few years. Can't help but think if Cortese was still at the helm this would not have been left to the last minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Can't help but think if Cortese was still at the helm this would not have been left to the last minute. But he isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 You know all of that has happened? No, didn't think so.if he leaves then there is a pretty fair chance that is the case. Balligue who is a friend of MP has basically said it as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Why does he still use a translator? You'll have to ask him although Ballague said it was to keep a level of distance between him and reporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 What a load of old cobblers. So should we pay MP 200K per week just to keep him? And anyone who believes the club can stop anyone leaving who really wants to leave is naive at best and stupid at worst. We are not a top, top side and if players want to leave they will: Ronaldo left Man U despite man U wanting to keep him, Everton have lost key players like Felliani, Rodwell, Rooney, etc. so to think we can simply say we should be in a position to keep all our players is ridiculous. It is a sign of how far we have come that so many top clubs want our players. And the same people who were complaining about how the Skates got away with it re. their overspend are now seriously suggesting we should break the bank or we "lack ambition". You couldn't make it up!people to my mind are not saying break the bank, but if we sell 2 players for £50 it would be ptretty fair to expect the board to back MP with half minimum. Iam used to selling our best players/my heroes since i saw Mick Channon all those years ago. I only ask that a fair amount is reinvested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 You'll have to ask him although Ballague said it was to keep a level of distance between him and reporters. Fair enough, seems a bit pointless doing it every week if his English is fine though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 So if the manager leaves to go to a much bigger, more glamorous club than ours DESPITE being offered a contact we can afford then our board lacks ambition? If players leave to play for some of the biggest clubs in the world then it's the boards fault? Thank f**k none of you are in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rees Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 What page do we reckon this thread will get to before his future is decided either way? I'm going with 36, new contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Fair enough, seems a bit pointless doing it every week if his English is fine though. but Mash as its his second language the reporters can easily twist his words, this way he has time to think about his answer. Anyway do managers really tell the truth? they normally put a positive side to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 But he isn't. Exactly, which to me suggests our current board are not tying things down at the speed they maybe should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 people to my mind are not saying break the bank, but if we sell 2 players for £50 it would be ptretty fair to expect the board to back MP with half minimum. Iam used to selling our best players/my heroes since i saw Mick Channon all those years ago. I only ask that a fair amount is reinvested. 2 players for 50 million plus Osvaldo and perhaps Gaston. That would give us pushing nigh on 65 million in transfer fees received (i've taken off Bompey's cut) plus 82 million PL revenues plus 20 odd million ticket sales plus odds and ends from the commercial side. So all told 180 million or so in revenue one way or another, what do they intend to do with all of that if there's not much of an incoming transfer budget then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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