Olallana Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 Annual bed wetting season I think Poch will at least honour his final year Of his contract. With all the doom and gloom merchants on here Just answer me a question Can you remember 5 years ago? Saints almost out of business - no club Let's get real Players and Managers come and go It's part of the game We will always be Saints fans Great years, but lets make some new history instead of looking back at old history.
Sour Mash Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 Agree with Adam re the holding the cards aspect. The Board could easily have put more public pressure onto Poch. Everytime he put it onto them they seemed to get in a flap and there were a number of inconsistent statements. Stupid too that contracts havent seen sorted for the likes of Cork and Fonte, both of whom would love to stay.Not exactly an easy thing to do though. I'm trying to think of the wording of such a statement that wouldn't make MP's position untenable, yet put some kind of pressure on him? Difficult one that. Agree, re Cork and Fonte, they should be easy ones to sort out.
revolution saint Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 Annual bed wetting season I think Poch will at least honour his final year Of his contract. With all the doom and gloom merchants on here Just answer me a question Can you remember 5 years ago? Saints almost out of business - no club Let's get real Players and Managers come and go It's part of the game We will always be Saints fans I hate this modern poetry lark - that doesn't rhyme at all!
Kingsland Red Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 I think MP should go if Shaw and Lallana go. He'd have to do fantastic work in the transfer window just to replicate this season then. Hardly helps him does it. I thought that was the manager's role in a football club. The present Saints fans' idea that only an improvement in the league position is acceptable and never consolidation, is only because of our last 'project' which was needed to get us back to where we were when Strachan left. Like Charlton Athletic under Curbishley, when the fans wanted change, be careful what you wish for.
Bad Wolf Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 Call me naive but if Spurs were that interested in landing him, wouldn't they have made an official approach by now? I wish this whole situation would just be sorted soon, whatever the outcome.
yorkshiresaint Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 Call me naive but if Spurs were that interested in landing him, wouldn't they have made an official approach by now? I wish this whole situation would just be sorted soon, whatever the outcome. This
angelman Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 Aye, it seems to be one of Levy's little games but the worst of it is that Saints are being made to look Mickey Mouse.
Viking Warrior Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 Angelman whose making the club look like Micky mouse The impatient forum members or the media . I still very optimistic about the future of the club even if we lose two players
Heisenberg Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 How would we feel if Tottenham appoint say Frank De Boer or Roberto Mancini and only then Mauricio agrees a new contract with us? I believe some would feel like we were simply a second choice for him? The timing of events is key and perhaps Pochettino underestimates that?
Viking Warrior Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 Angel How do you know he is . Are you basing this on media speculation . I think levy is- somewhat Micky mouse chairman . How many managers has he been through . What spurs need is stability not constant change. Levy doesn't know the meaning of stability . Had Adam and Luke been playing for spurs They would definately have moved from them by now
Bucks Saint Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 How would we feel if Tottenham appoint say Frank De Boer or Roberto Mancini and only then Mauricio agrees a new contract with us? I believe some would feel like we were simply a second choice for him? The timing of events is key and perhaps Pochettino underestimates that? Well apart from never knowing if this would be the only reason Mopo agreed, do you think Liverpool fans give a monkeys that Suarez was very keen to talk to Arsenal a year ago and he only did a U turn when it was clear that Liverpool were not budging?
Window Cleaner Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 How would we feel if Tottenham appoint say Frank De Boer or Roberto Mancini and only then Mauricio agrees a new contract with us? I believe some would feel like we were simply a second choice for him? The timing of events is key and perhaps Pochettino underestimates that? Well I personally think that Mauricio would have achieved his aims. He's got a year left, he doesn't want to be landed with a crap team next season. He's never spoken publicly about Tottenham either way. If he signs a new contract then you have to assume it was better than the old one and he'd had his say on team strengthening.
angelman Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 Angel How do you know he is . Are you basing this on media speculation . I think levy is- somewhat Micky mouse chairman . How many managers has he been through . What spurs need is stability not constant change. Levy doesn't know the meaning of stability . Had Adam and Luke been playing for spurs They would definately have moved from them by now Vik What I mean is that it appears that the whole of Saints' progress is hinging on Levy's decision. Call it hysteria, players' comments, press speculation, bookies odds, what ever (and there's so much smoke that I would be surprised if there was no fire at all) the fact remains that we seem to be dancing to Levy's tune. Once Levy makes his mind up with who he wants, then we can proceed. As you point out, Levy has an itchy finger.
DuncanRG Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 How would we feel if Tottenham appoint say Frank De Boer or Roberto Mancini and only then Mauricio agrees a new contract with us? I believe some would feel like we were simply a second choice for him? The timing of events is key and perhaps Pochettino underestimates that? I'd think 'fair enough, thanks for staying'. He's great and Southampton is no manager's dream. As long as he's committed to the job - which he is - then we should be happy if he stays regardless of what he thinks about other clubs.
PokingFun Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 I think a lot of people forget that players and managers probably see their football careers as no different to how people in other walks of life see their own careers. If opportunities come along, then they assess whether such opportunity provides an enhancement to their life and decide accordingly. Personally, I have no problem at all with that as it is simply life. If MP is not approached by another club with a better offer than we can match either financially or from a quality perspective then I suspect he will stay. If he does get a better offer he will go. If Spurs go for someone else and he stays then that is fine as it is his job and he strikes me as a person that is committed to his job. Does that mean he will stay forever and turn down better offers in the future? No, of course not. Fans are quick enough to 'sack the manager' in times of trouble but cannot expect said managers to hang around if better is available to them in their field. It's the way things work.
Viking Warrior Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 (edited) Apparently it's been on Facebook that MP met MLT in macdonalds in Tottenham court road to day. I suspect t it's a total wind up I 64. Benali yesterday and MLT today Edited 21 May, 2014 by Viking Warrior
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 Apparently it's been on Facebook that MP met MLT in macdonalds in Tottenham court road to day. I suspect t it's a total wind up I 64. Benali yesterday and MLT today Either way Tottenham Court Road aint anywhere near Tottenham...
Viking Warrior Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 I agree totally with Jeff . Just goes to prove some of the crap that is spouted . Ps great positive post on another thread jeff
Kingsland Red Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 Either way Tottenham Court Road aint anywhere near Tottenham... I'm with MLT later at a charity function, I will ask !
sydneysaint17 Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 Looks like Spurs decided to hire RK instead of Poch.
austsaint Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 Looks like Spurs decided to hire RK instead of Poch. pure gold.
Huffton Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 Apparently it's been on Facebook that MP met MLT in macdonalds in Tottenham court road to day. I suspect t it's a total wind up I 64. Benali yesterday and MLT today Bless, maybe they were going to see a show together?
John Boy Saint Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 43 posts away from some wag saying that this thread will reach page 44 before an announcement will be made regarding MP.
brett24 Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 He is waiting for Cortese to turn up at Villa or somewhere like that and then he will join him. According to one Spurs ITK they have not interest in Pochettino, he will not be approached. Kind of makes sense, if he was first choice wouldn't they have approached him by now.
angelman Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 He is waiting for Cortese to turn up at Villa or somewhere like that and then he will join him. According to one Spurs ITK they have not interest in Pochettino, he will not be approached. Kind of makes sense, if he was first choice wouldn't they have approached him by now. Talk****e were saying that Spuds were waiting until after CL Final, which I guess means that they might want Simeone. Not sure how likely that is, but I do love the way that some in the EPL think that they can go in and get who ever they want. A lot of players and managers are shunning EPL for the other big leagues (Germany, Italy Spain).
Kingsland Red Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 For once I appear to be ITK. (At a charity meal last night at St Marys with various inc MLT). Apparently no approach for Poch as yet and he is working with Les Reed on the squad for next season.
thorpie the sinner Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 For once I appear to be ITK. (At a charity meal last night at St Marys with various inc MLT). Apparently no approach for Poch as yet and he is working with Les Reed on the squad for next season. My bosses were at same doo, will see what their thoughts were this morning!
angelman Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 For once I appear to be ITK. (At a charity meal last night at St Marys with various inc MLT). Apparently no approach for Poch as yet and he is working with Les Reed on the squad for next season. If that is the case, WTF has the club not alluded to that but let speculation run unchecked? I know that no one is beholden to say anything, but.....
shirleysfc Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 If that is the case, WTF has the club not alluded to that but let speculation run unchecked? I know that no one is beholden to say anything, but..... Other than Les Reed's statement that said they were working together, planning for next season? What do you want, weekly updates?
angelman Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 yes if need be. Having spent £1500 recently it would be nice to know what I spent it on.
Olallana Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 In may no club really know what they offer their fans in august though...
Charlie Wayman Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 MP has stated consistently that he has one year left on his contract and is not concerned that a new deal has not being hastened. Two years probably suited everyone at the time of his arrival as both sides were unknown quantities to the other. If he honours that contract and we have no reason to suppose that he won't then he'll be here for one more year and it may still suit both sides to leave it that way. MP's stock is growing but not yet assured after only one season in the PL, if the success continues he will be in much greater demand from genuinely BIG international clubs but if everything stalls - as at Swansea - then we might want to move on. So doing nothing now actually may not be a bad option all round. If greater success does follow current success the chances are he may actually want to commit his future to us anyway without prompting.
angelman Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 In may no club really know what they offer their fans in august though... That is very true, but not sure when the last time was that a club, who hadn't been relegated, had the threat (if newspaper tittle tattle is to be believed - and yes, that's a very big "if") of losing 4 of their back five who played this season, all of their midfield bar one, their main two strikers and let's not forget the manager and his assistants.
Olallana Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 That is very true, but not sure when the last time was that a club, who hadn't been relegated, had the threat (if newspaper tittle tattle is to be believed - and yes, that's a very big "if") of losing 4 of their back five who played this season, all of their midfield bar one, their main two strikers and let's not forget the manager and his assistants. I´m also not sure over the ambition of the board at the moment but cant see that more than 2-3 players and (possibly) manager would leave which would be devastating as f*ck but I also dont think they should get played by medias fiddle. Any comments without really news at this stage would only increase speculations imo.
Charlie Wayman Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 That is very true, but not sure when the last time was that a club, who hadn't been relegated, had the threat (if newspaper tittle tattle is to be believed - and yes, that's a very big "if") of losing 4 of their back five who played this season, all of their midfield bar one, their main two strikers and let's not forget the manager and his assistants. That's a pretty pessimistic view of things. Surely the club would only sanction players to break contracts if it suits ten and the money is deemed essential for improving the squad, one maybe two might want out strongly enough for the club to realise there is no point in holding them against their will but Suarez was forced to stay at Liverpool and subsequently played well for them. Unlike you I have yet to renew. If a mass exodus was really to occur then of course I would not renew and there will be many of similar ilk.
SaintRichmond Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 That's a pretty pessimistic view of things. Surely the club would only sanction players to break contracts if it suits ten and the money is deemed essential for improving the squad, one maybe two might want out strongly enough for the club to realise there is no point in holding them against their will but Suarez was forced to stay at Liverpool and subsequently played well for them. Unlike you I have yet to renew. If a mass exodus was really to occur then of course I would not renew and there will be many of similar ilk. And that's it in a nutshell really The Club talk about the future as " A New Project " What is it ?? Existing Season Ticket holders have until 30th May (EIGHT days) to renew, but have NO idea what "The Project" will be Would you buy tickets for a Cinema or Theatre without knowing what was on, and who was in the production ??? Of course not I agree many would not renew if Manager and Players left, but, are we likely to be told BEFORE the 30th May deadline Of course not
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 And that's it in a nutshell really The Club talk about the future as " A New Project " What is it ?? Existing Season Ticket holders have until 30th May (EIGHT days) to renew, but have NO idea what "The Project" will be Would you buy tickets for a Cinema or Theatre without knowing what was on, and who was in the production ??? Of course not I agree many would not renew if Manager and Players left, but, are we likely to be told BEFORE the 30th May deadline Of course not Do you support your cinema in the same way that you do your football club? Of course not.
Wurzel Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 yes if need be. Having spent £1500 recently it would be nice to know what I spent it on. Guaranteed admission for 19 home Premier League matches. Nothing more. Nothing less. Same as every season.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 And that's it in a nutshell really The Club talk about the future as " A New Project " What is it ?? Existing Season Ticket holders have until 30th May (EIGHT days) to renew, but have NO idea what "The Project" will be Would you buy tickets for a Cinema or Theatre without knowing what was on, and who was in the production ??? Of course not I agree many would not renew if Manager and Players left, but, are we likely to be told BEFORE the 30th May deadline Of course not What Cinema season-tickets or memberships? Nah, no one in the world buys them.
angelman Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 Guaranteed admission for 19 home Premier League matches. Nothing more. Nothing less. Same as every season. Ah but that's the foolish attitude and one that presumes that I will be happy year on year to spend this amount in an unquestioning manner. Business is business. You **** off your customers and they might not come back (not that I am ****ed off). You may be able to replace them and then that's all well and good.
SaintRichmond Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 Do you support your cinema in the same way that you do your football club? Of course not. You are (again) missing my point If you went to the cinema TODAY, you would know what film is on On 30th May, will you know what SFC's " New Project " is ?? Doesn't look like it Blind Faith is one thing, but, to me £700+ is a lot to pay out before being told what's on the menu You obviously have no money worries and are more than happy to take Pot Luck
ecuk268 Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 The Evening Standard, which for some time has been saying that MP is a certainty for the Spurs job, now appears to be backtracking somewhat suggesting that there are differences in the Spurs camp over the new appointment. As well as De Boer, Benitez has been mentioned and even Ancelotti if Real Madrid lose in the CL final. http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/mauricio-pochettino-is-no-certainty-as-tottenham-hope-to-install-new-boss-next-week-9416156.html
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 You are (again) missing my point If you went to the cinema TODAY, you would know what film is on On 30th May, will you know what SFC's " New Project " is ?? Doesn't look like it Blind Faith is one thing, but, to me £700+ is a lot to pay out before being told what's on the menu You obviously have no money worries and are more than happy to take Pot Luck But surely, you buy 19 tickets to see Southampton FC? You will be guaranteed 19 tickets to see Southampton FC. So you do know what you will be buying. It's more like paying to see a film, without knowing all the characters, plot-twists etc. There's always a chance the team are going to have a bad year.
Toon Saint Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 But surely, you buy 19 tickets to see Southampton FC? You will be guaranteed 19 tickets to see Southampton FC. So you do know what you will be buying. It's more like paying to see a film, without knowing all the characters, plot-twists etc. There's always a chance the team are going to have a bad year. The last film I watched where I hadn't read a review beforehand was 'Salmon Fishing in the Yemen', recommended by my girlfriend's mother. I'll never get those two hours back.
Big Bad Bob Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 Ah feck, he's off to Celtic now :- Sky Sports News @SkySportsNews 1m BREAKING NEWS: Celtic part company with manager Neil Lennon #SSN
angelman Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 You are (again) missing my point If you went to the cinema TODAY, you would know what film is on On 30th May, will you know what SFC's " New Project " is ?? Doesn't look like it Blind Faith is one thing, but, to me £700+ is a lot to pay out before being told what's on the menu You obviously have no money worries and are more than happy to take Pot Luck I guess that's what it means to be a customer of a football club. We can be fed all sorts of ****, yet we will come back for more. It's not like most are going to get so discontented that they are going to go down the road and support some other team (well, you never know these days!), so we are a captive audience.
Big Bad Bob Posted 22 May, 2014 Posted 22 May, 2014 The last film I watched where I hadn't read a review beforehand was 'Salmon Fishing in the Yemen', recommended by my girlfriend's mother. I'll never get those two hours back. My missus choose The River Wild when it was at the cinema, I spent the whole film looking at close ups of Meryl Streep's face thinking "God she's ugly". I now have autonomous film choice in our household.
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