Saint_Tony Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 I don't know, I think he was really pushing for it. What's the alternative? Well****. And he's not scoring goals, again - no ****. I think he had a real chance and I'm devastated for him, the horrible thing with ACL injuries - unless they are treated very well - they do seem to hang around for the career, and continuous knee knocks seem to be the effect of that. Lets hope he gets the best of care, treatment and rehab. It's a long road back for him though. Think he would have made the 30 amd then been dropped. He's had a far better season and is a better player but Roy was always going to take the safe option of Welbeck, even if J Rod went on to score 20 goals. Welbeck is average at best, but has played at a tournament and scored for England. He will only take 4 strikers, it'll be Rooney, Sturridge, Welbeck and one of Carroll or Lambert. It's awful news for him, but at least it makes things easier for Hodgson, who can now pretend he was considering him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Sorry to hear that Jay :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Cuadrado a good makeshift? Or will he cost too much? Or will he fail because he is from Italy? We'll need someone until Jay finds his feet... Gutted for the lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Redmayne is not fit to lace Rodrigaynes boots I think he means Eddie Redmayne. Due to play Steven Davis in Saints-The Movie. Gutted For JRod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 I find it difficult to find anything positive with this news. Forget England or Saints. I'm not sure if his careers isn't over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Any good examples of recent recoveries from ACL injuries? Ruud Van Nistelrooy did alright after doing his whilst at PSV. Alan Shearer is another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 I find it difficult to find anything positive with this news. Forget England or Saints. I'm not sure if his careers isn't over. He's not the first player to suffer this sort of injury. He's still a good age and he has a great future ahead of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M271 Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 So sorry for him, he's pushed on and reached another level this season. He, Ricky and Adam have struck up a really good understanding which reached new heights recently and especially in the Newcastle match last week, typical Saints luck that so soon after that game they will not now play together again until the back end of the year. Still it is up to some players in the squad to step in and make a name for themselves and it gives the Club plenty of time to decide on the best way forward with transfer strategy. All the best Jay hope the time out is not as long as predicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Ok I've read up a little bit more and feel more positive. Good luck Jay the road to recovery has begun. I will expect you back stronger than ever in 6 Months time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 He was improving every game so as to get on that plane. Very disappointed for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Come on Jay Rod..You can do it. Very sad news...Good luck to the lad .. Hopefully a speedy recovery... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Like everyone, gutted for him. I don't know whether he'd have gone to Brazil, if he'd carried on scoring would have been hard to ignore, but we will never know now. Hope he makes a full and speedy recovery. The silver lining is that our seasons finished anyway, so he's only going to miss about 2-3 months of serious football and in the final few games there'll be chances for gaston to get a sustained run, and maybe some game time for Gallagher or one of the other youngsters. And hopefully it forces the club to look for a serious option up front. But that's not to understate how bad a piece of news this is. Best of luck Jrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSparky Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 So sorry to hear that such an innocuous incident has caused such an injury for Jay; I really feel for him especially missing the opportunity to compete for a place in the England squad for the World Cup Finals. I've already received messages from non-Saints supporters offering their best wishes for Jay's recovery and indicating that they thought he was in with a very good chance of making the final 23. Good luck with your recovery Jay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Get Well Soon Jay. Keep taking the tablets and we'll see you back at St.Marys soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Ruud Van Nistelrooy did alright after doing his whilst at PSV. Alan Shearer is another one. Both excellent strikers, well, the best obviously, and good examples, but one thing they have in common is that neither were the type of striker that relied on having a burst of pace quite like Jay has, or am I remembering them wrongly? I hope this doesn't affect his pace and acceleration too much, he's not really the big bustling striker type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Miserable news both for JRod, the club, and we fans. With the benefit of modern surgical techniques combined with the top class rehabilitation this club will doubtless insist on I see no reason to believe that this fine young player should not make a full recovery - in time. None of that however means that the need for at least one (possibly two) new strikers this summer is not now pressing. Surely the prospect of starting the new season with just SRL and young Gallagher as our only available strikers is unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Both excellent strikers, well, the best obviously, and good examples, but one thing they have in common is that neither were the type of striker that relied on having a burst of pace quite like Jay has, or am I remembering them wrongly? I hope this doesn't affect his pace and acceleration too much, he's not really the big bustling striker type. No, you're right, that is that is my worry. A big part of his game is pace and running hard, so hopefully it won't effect his game too much. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Both excellent strikers, well, the best obviously, and good examples, but one thing they have in common is that neither were the type of striker that relied on having a burst of pace quite like Jay has, or am I remembering them wrongly? I hope this doesn't affect his pace and acceleration too much, he's not really the big bustling striker type. That's how I see it as well Norway Saint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 gutted for J-Rod. He was flying, as the presence of Woy at another of our games proves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Probably need to sign 2 strikers then. Nightmare, hope he recovers well and we see him back before Christmas. Go go and sign Welbeck. I've been critical of Welbeck in the past, but I do reckon he would do well in our set up. Absolutely gutted for Jay. Hope for a speedy recovery. And to think, the experts here were telling us he was a failed signing, and not worth half what we paid for him this time last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Ruud Van Nistelrooy did alright after doing his whilst at PSV. Alan Shearer is another one. Cheers. Just have to wait and see then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Feel so sorry for the bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Terrible news, he must be devastated right now, not only for the injury itself, but coming when it has with the WC around the corner. I hope he can come back from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Heartbreaking for him. As important as pace is to his game at the moment I honestly think he has the talent to adapt if he comes back a little slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Also gutted for him. Get well soon, Jay, we need you. Osvaldo is a c**t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downthe36 Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 No, you're right, that is that is my worry. A big part of his game is pace and running hard, so hopefully it won't effect his game too much. Fingers crossed. It will be interesting to see how Walcott comes back from his ACL injury, as pace pretty much IS Theo's game, I guess Walcott should be ready to start the season in August so will give us a bit of hope if he comes back strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Very very sad news. Get better v.soon Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M271 Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Theo also suffered Anterior Ligament Damage in early January, this article was written 7/8 weeks later. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/10669312/Im-learning-to-walk-again-says-Arsenals-Theo-Walcott.html Latest news from yesterday is that Theo hopes to join some pre-season training, so for him will be 6 1/2 months after his injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Osvaldo is a c**t. Bit of a weird thing to say, did Osvaldo stab Jay in the knee or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 A bit of good news perhaps is that the injury was on his right leg. Studies show that footballers who undergo ACL surgery on their nondominant limb have a higher future rate of ACL surgery on their other limb than those who initially have surgery on their dominant limb. Can the experts confirm? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23002201/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 My dominant limb has no acl;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Alpines very brave . I bet you wouldn't call osvaldo a **** to his face . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Poor bastard, i really feel for him. It's just not fair. Hell be 29 the next time around, still young enough for 1 world cup. All the best Jay Rod, get well soon mate. 28 actually, and at 32 for 2022 he would still be younger than Rickie is now depending on when it is actually played. Bad news for the lad, although I honestly think he would not have made the final 23, it would still have been great to have been in the mix for selection. I guess now we need to sign 3 strikers in the summer, assuming one is to replace Osvaldo, we needed another one anyway and now we need to cover for JRod being out for most of the first half of the season. Shows how thin our squad really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Really sad news - he has been getting better and better and now this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Theo also suffered Anterior Ligament Damage in early January, this article was written 7/8 weeks later. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/10669312/Im-learning-to-walk-again-says-Arsenals-Theo-Walcott.html Latest news from yesterday is that Theo hopes to join some pre-season training, so for him will be 6 1/2 months after his injury. Long winded bare with me My dad's sale's guy went to a house the other day to see a gent about some windows etc Gent turns around "my grandsons paying for these for me he's a really good footballer" Sales guy " really I ve played abit " Gent" here he is now" Black range rover turns up done up to the 9's Theo hops out with padding all round his leg. Sales guy sits down and has a chat with him and get his autograph, all the time his leg is being bent up and down by this electric padded brace That was 3 weeks ago so not looking good for jrod He said theo was a gent I am itk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Gutted for Jay, his confidence has been growing and looking more & more comfortable at this level. I just hope he makes a full recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 He'll be back for next season's FA Cup run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 What a crying shame he certainly was pulling himself to the front of the plane. Get well soon Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Alpine also the wrong thread to put comments on here about osvaldo . This thread is about JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Ruud Van Nistelrooy did alright after doing his whilst at PSV. Alan Shearer is another one. Gutted for Jay. Hope he recovers quickly and fully. The way he got the injury reminded me of how RVN did his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Hope he pushes himself into contention for the Euro 2016. He deserves another chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Wonder how this affects his contract talks. Potentially he will only have a year and a half left when he returns which is not ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAY-Z Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Any good examples of recent recoveries from ACL injuries? Unfortunately this is quite a common injury in Australian rules football There are plenty of players who recover fully and continue to play great football for a long period of time. There are also a few who seem to never fully recover and get this injury repeat a few times, but there would be many more successes than failures. The thing that concerns me is they are looking at a 6 month recovery, in AFL they take a minimum 12 months before players play again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 So sad for Jay. Now we really can appreciate what a massive impact he has been having on our play, being without him. I wouldn't be surprised that his name might be high up on Saints Player of the Year list on the other thread. And that really would be massive because Adam's play has been quite mesmerizing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Wonder how this affects his contract talks. Potentially he will only have a year and a half left when he returns which is not ideal. Bet you he signs a contract extension whilst injured "club are standing by him" etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 (edited) Unfortunately this is quite a common injury in Australian rules football There are plenty of players who recover fully and continue to play great football for a long period of time. There are also a few who seem to never fully recover and get this injury repeat a few times, but there would be many more successes than failures. The thing that concerns me is they are looking at a 6 month recovery, in AFL they take a minimum 12 months before players play again In the NFL, Adrian Peterson's recovery (9 months) stands out as the most freakish - his position depends almost entirely on burst and acceleration. Good article on how advances in rehab make full recovery more likely. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl---adrian-peterson-effect--leaves-doctors-in-awe-and-players-rushing-to-return-031136811.html Edited 7 April, 2014 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Dreadful news for the club and Jay. I can see him taking a full 12 months to recover both his fitness and form and then reclaim his place. We cannot be without a key striker for that period of time, so I would expect some movement in the summer now. There is no other player in the club that could perform in Jay's position and at the same level as he has - however, we'll almost certainly see Ramirez step up now...it would appear to be a big chance for him to impress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Just saw the news now, gutted for Jay. I still don't think he would've made Hodgson's final squad though, although I'm sure he would've been in the 30. He's had a great season and was in a really amazing run of form recently, but I still think the World Cup was coming a touch too soon. I always got the impression Hodgson was desperately trying to work out how he could take him ahead of Wellbeck. I think it took a while for him to really get a handle on how Jay plays and what he does for the team. Hodgson has watched Saints play so often recently though, that I think he eventually got a real understanding of how Jay works - especially alongside Lallana and Lambert. Obviously the injury is going to hold up his progress a bit, but I always felt like Euro 2016 would be a more likely shout for Jay if he continued improving at the rate he was doing. He's young and hopefully can come through his recovery strongly and emerge with no lasting damage, at the next world cup he should be in his prime. Get well soon Jay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoPints Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Just caught up with this news. Gutted for him. It must be devastating at any time in a footballers career but when he had a chance of getting to the world cup... utter nightmare. Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 8 April, 2014 Share Posted 8 April, 2014 Hugely disappointed for him but it looked bad from where we were stood at the game - he will be back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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