Saint-Armstrong Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Video of part of his post-match press conference here: http://sport.bt.com/video-01363814401986?videoid=3434865167001 From 1:08 onwards he is quite amusing, and clearly very angry. What's people's views on this? Should he just keep quiet, or is he right in your eyes to vent his anger? Pochettino on the offside decision for MCFC's 2nd goal: “It was not clear, it was just offside, just one centimetre. It seemed like a type of game that you play at school, where you get these dumb refereeing decisions." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Codger Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 The failure of the match officials to give offside was so dreadful MP has every right to shout his anger from the hilltops - fat lot of good it will do him and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a fine for doing so. However, yesterday's fiasco highlights a huge problem. When everyone in the stadium and at home can see a ridiculous error (Lallana said in his post-match interview he could see the replay on the Big Screen) then why can't the incident be investigated and amended there and then? Chris Foy has the whistle, he should have consulted with his lino and done the correct thing. What galls further is the apparent lack of interest in some of the match reports. See the report on the BBC website STARTS A delightful move involving Toure, Dzeko and David Silva presented Nasri with the easiest of finishes, though City could count themselves fortunate given Silva was offside when he provided the assist. ENDS "City could count themselves fortunate" ?? !! Had that decision been the other way and it was a goal for Saints today's press would be howling for justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Given the fitness levels of players these days, and thus the pace of the game, quite often it's very difficult for officials. This, however, was not one of those occasions. MP's quite right to voice his displeasure. Shocking decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 (edited) It's a pity that we have not heard from the ref or the lino after the game, the least they could do (and as a matter of courtesy!) is to explain why they made the mistake and apologise ! Am not holding my breath, mind, grrr... Edited 6 April, 2014 by eurosaint Spelling ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 It was an unbelievable awful decision, the sort of situation that everybody on the pitch can see clearly. Sunday morning referees who are used to having to manage without a linesman could see that one with their eyes closed. Yes, we all deserve an explanation and a clear apology. Personally I demand a replay, preferably with us awarded a 2 goal start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 I don't know whether this was ever posted on here. It's part of a review of refereeing decisions last season carried out by an Arsenal website. It looks at refereeing of Saints matches. It acknowledges that it's used a relatively small sample. It concludes: "Looking at those numbers I think it is more or less a miracle that they managed to keep themselves in the PL. They sure didn’t get much from the refs to stay in the PL." http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/archives/30374 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 What's people's views on this? Should he just keep quiet, or is he right in your eyes to vent his anger? Ideally, I would prefer the manager to keep his cool and stay classy. But using some of the successful managers as examples (Fergie, Wenger, Mourinho etc.) you could argue that Pochettino is right to vent his anger in order to divert attention away from his team's 4-1 defeat and towards the ref's mistake. It can make him look like a whiner, but I'm quite sure it will help ease pressure off the players - and that's why I applaud his decision to divert attention away from the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Hope Mopo isnt going to moan after every defeat. We were heavily beaten by the better team yesterday, not the ref or lino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Don't see how he can get in trouble. What is he meant to say? The decision is 100% wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Fair play to the city fans for the standing ovation. They've noticed his quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Meant on Rodriguez thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Hope Mopo isnt going to moan after every defeat. We were heavily beaten by the better team yesterday, not the ref or lino Bite potential rating = 7.8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Bite potential rating = 7.8/10 Is this your new Bill Murray thing? It's very hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Lallana pointed out in an interview after the match that they were all disappointed - because the goal was shown on the big screens after it went in. He said everyone could see it was offside from that, including the referee and the lino! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 I say this so often. The game is unbelievably fast these days. Far more so than could ever have been imagined when the game was first conceived, or when referees and linesmen were first introduced. The game has changed, massively. The way the game is officiated needs to change accordingly. This desire to cling on to an outdated mode of officiating this game is frankly bizarre. There are 3 officials (the 4th does nothing in reality) to 22 players. Then look at the size of the pitch, especially somewhere like the etihad or old trafford. Asking referees or there assitants to be able to cover the entire pitch and see everything at the pace the game is played is simply ridiculous. They do not stand a chance, no one would. Factor in the rise in gamesmanship and cheating (yes Toure I am very much looking at you - marvellous player you are, but your behaviour as a captain was disgusting) and three officials, nowhere near as fit as the players (understandably) the job is nearly impossible. It is a modern game, we need modern officiating. It would have taken seconds for an extra official to watch a replay and see that was offside. The argument that technology would slow down the game is absolute nonsense, any contentious decision is argued over anyway. A replay available to the 4th official or a video ref would significantly cut down on this. There needs to be more officials, an assistant in each half on each side (basically 4 lino's instead of 2). How on earth can a lino spot something on the far side, or half way down the pitch on the line? I can't really blame them for getting those sorts of things wrong, it's a nigh on impossible task. But, yesterdays decision (offside) was an utter joke. Sat behind the goal you could see it wasn't even close. Granted it was a quick (and yeah if I'm honest a very good) move, but that was elementary. My gf, who knows sod all about football could see it and was shocked it wasn't given ffs. Pochettino will most likely get a fine, and the assistant will go and award Chelsea or United another ridiculous game changing goal, or penalise the wrong player with no consequence. Change is needed immediately. sorry for the rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Hope Mopo isnt going to moan after every defeat. We were heavily beaten by the better team yesterday, not the ref or lino Whilst we were beaten by the better team who have battered "better teams" than us. Listening to Lallana commenting about J-Rods injury, coupled with the tight bond the players seem to have with each other and looking at the training ground photos Mopo aswell. I wouldn't doubt that he was pretty upset at J-Rods nasty looking injury (for a foreign coach he certainly does appear to take great pleasure from his players breaking into the England team especially) then you get yet another carp decision from the officials like that. The fact that he commented in English alone showed that he was pretty ****ed off at the ineptitude of the match officials. As a team we do play the game with a pretty straight bat, making it very easy on match officials. We don't have players like Suarez who expends so much energy on getting spawny free kicks, or make like they have been taken out by a sniper in the floodlights at the merest breath, yet we get very little in return for such honesty from the match officials. I wouldn't be surprised if he just felt he had to let off some steam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 He has ever right to be fuming. I think everyone accepts that the speed of the modern game means that some borderline decisions go for/against you but yesterdays was so. so obvious that there really is no excuse for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Hope Mopo isnt going to moan after every defeat. We were heavily beaten by the better team yesterday, not the ref or lino He hasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 What really pi..es me off is that on MOTD they had the Man City Captain (Kompany) who 'Always defends his fellow players' even though one of the cheating barstewards get a yellow for a dive, and another was doing a forward roll before Fonte stuck his leg up. Who in their right mind invited him to adjudicate on his own team? Lets have a Player from EVERY team in the Prem adjudicating on MOTD to ensure a 'balanced view' unlike Linnekar et al! MoPo is right. Look back at the number of times we have had decisions against us with the top six!Schoolboys Refs? No! Idiots with whistles! PS.Read League 1 plus 10 blog and check this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Is this your new Bill Murray thing? It's very hilarious. Its not meant to be funny. Its meant to be dull and repetitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_John Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 I believe yesterday joke offside "goal" was missed by Mick McDonough. Now he is a linesman/local referee from Newcastle area, (Denton Burn, 4 miles west of Newcastle). He does a number of games with his fellow Official from that area, namely Mark Clattenburg, and they only live 4.3 miles apart (Denton Burn to Gosforth). i.e. they did the Liverpool v Cardiff League Cup final at Wembley together http://www.football-league.co.uk/capitalonecup/news/20120201/clattenburg-to-oversee-carling-cup-final_2293330_2597351 and they were also together for the "Race Row" game at Chelsea in 2012. I wonder how close they are as friends ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Appalling decision. That would not have been the final result. In my view if that goal had been disallowed, it is probable the next goal wouldn't have been scored in the time left because the flow of the game would have been different, plus the mental approach from both teams would have been different. There would have been no uplift with City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Watching the Liverpool vs Ammers game . The ref and Lino have got the Ammers goal wrong that was a foul on the keeper . and Carroll reminds me of a donkey . He's clumsy and has no finesse or class unlike Rickie lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAS Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Hope Mopo isnt going to moan after every defeat. We were heavily beaten by the better team yesterday, not the ref or linoSo the bad decision had no affect/effect on the game? I thought we were the better team in the first half. Your post doesn't add up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 Hope Mopo isnt going to moan after every defeat. We were heavily beaten by the better team yesterday, not the ref or lino This is ridiculous. We were not beaten by a better team. We have young lads who quickly go from high to low as we all did at that age. Brushing things off and not letting them affect you comes much later in life. That awful mistake by the lino ruined the match as anybody with two eyes could see for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redder freak Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 It's hard to tell which team is better when one team gets a lucky decision that gifts them a goal. A free goal is obviously a huge advantage in football, to any football team. It's like having an unfair handicap in golf or squash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 It's hard to tell which team is better when one team gets a lucky decision that gifts them a goal. A free goal is obviously a huge advantage in football, to any football team. It's like having an unfair handicap in golf or squash. England V Germany in the last World Cup comes to mind as a bad goal decision completely dictating the rest of a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 6 April, 2014 Share Posted 6 April, 2014 (edited) Hope Mopo isnt going to moan after every defeat. We were heavily beaten by the better team yesterday, not the ref or lino [censored] Edited 6 April, 2014 by jasonb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2598362/The-rules-Wild-West-run-run-Premier-League-just-ask-Pochettino-state-football.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Its been a while since one of Samuel's anti Saints 'rants'. One of his better efforts though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 I still don't think it was a pen, and it certainly wasn't a clear pen !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 I still don't think it was a pen, and it certainly wasn't a clear pen !! Our pen or Man C's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 did ponch mention the dumb defending by fonte or the dumb goalkeeping by g-nigga? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2598362/The-rules-Wild-West-run-run-Premier-League-just-ask-Pochettino-state-football.html What is that fat b****rds problem with Saints? Love the brushing off of the impact of the 2nd goal, and just how blatant it was. Also the use of pictures that make it look a lot tighter than it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 oh i dunno, he's being pedantic or whatever but he's right bout what he said. I notice they're selling Shaw, Lallana + Morgan to Man Utd again tho! B*stards! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2598123/Moyes-confident-hell-land-target-Shaw-Saints-27million-hole-finances.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 I think I heard MP say the following on one of his interviews lino era tan ciego como un murciélago y debería haber ido a specsavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Yes, offside. Clear offside, but the lino obviously didn't see the second touch from Dzeko by which point Silva was 4 yards offside. But AL is right - anyone can look up and see the replay on the big screen. The referee can ask for clarification, but they won't. Game changing? Yes, maybe? Jay Rod injury - game changing? Yes definitely. Gazza not claiming the ball for goals 3 and 4 - game changing? Yes, definitely. We move on. Cardiff, 15:07 on Saturday. Really, 15:07? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Yes, offside. Clear offside, but the lino obviously didn't see the second touch from Dzeko by which point Silva was 4 yards offside. But AL is right - anyone can look up and see the replay on the big screen. The referee can ask for clarification, but they won't. Game changing? Yes, maybe? Jay Rod injury - game changing? Yes definitely. Gazza not claiming the ball for goals 3 and 4 - game changing? Yes, definitely. We move on. Cardiff, 15:07 on Saturday. Really, 15:07? http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?49514-Cardiff-game-kicking-off-at-15-07-Hillsborough-memorial#.U0K1fkaPI5s Yes. Really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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