Colinjb Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 He shows flashes of ability at times but at his age you would hope to see some signs of consistent composure, decision making and command of his area. Sadly I don't believe he is good enough to even be our back-up.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 5 April, 2014 Author Posted 5 April, 2014 Keepers get better with age. Gazza will come good, just needs our support
Badger Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 I'd rather have Bartosz Bialkowski back. . No. Our worst keeper since tommy forecast ! You're forgetting Bialkowski, and in particular his show at home to Blackpool ?
irene Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Gazza needs to go out on loan and learn his trade or he never will be even a decent back up
CB Saint Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Keepers get better with age. Gazza will come good, just needs our support Trouble is he will be about fifty before he reaches the standard required
Minty Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Keepers get better with age. Gazza will come good, just needs our support Before you could possibly get away with it, but this so clearly WUM material it's not even funny.
Saints foreva Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Feel sorry for the lad, but he shouldn't be at this level. He lacks the basic instincts and attributes to be a top level goal keeper and that isn't going to change. Why? He's making huge ££ per week despite being utter ****e at his job. He is by far the worst goalkeeper to play in the Premier League this season.
Badger Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Gazza needs to go out on loan and learn his trade or he never will be even a decent back up That's far too sensible a suggestion , it will never catch on.
Golac's Iron Gonads Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 I'm still a huge fan! Go on Gazza son! Have a rest Boruc.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 5 April, 2014 Author Posted 5 April, 2014 Before you could possibly get away with it, but this so clearly WUM material it's not even funny. Eh? Saints fan supporting his young keeper, is a WUM? Youre obsessed mate
Minty Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Youre obsessed mate I'm really not. And I'm certainly no knee-jerker either, but I honestly do believe that most people will agree that if we're serious about out continuous improvement, into the Top 10 of the Premier League, then Gazza is not, sadly, good enough to remain with us.
S-Clarke Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 I'm really not. And I'm certainly no knee-jerker either, but I honestly do believe that most people will agree that if we're serious about out continuous improvement, into the Top 10 of the Premier League, then Gazza is not, sadly, good enough to remain with us. Please don't give him the honour of a serious and sensible reply.
irene Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 That's far too sensible a suggestion , it will never catch on. Ha, your probably right
Glasgow_Saint Posted 5 April, 2014 Author Posted 5 April, 2014 I'm really not. And I'm certainly no knee-jerker either, but I honestly do believe that most people will agree that if we're serious about out continuous improvement, into the Top 10 of the Premier League, then Gazza is not, sadly, good enough to remain with us. Time will tell. Is he good enough right now - no Will he be - yes (imho) Look at the way Adam, Luke, Jay, Morgan have all improved under mopo. Is it impossible for Gazza to improve the same way?
Clunge Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Awful goalkeeper, with any luck he'll retire while he is at the peak of his career!
irene Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Time will tell. Is he good enough right now - no Will he be - yes (imho) Look at the way Adam, Luke, Jay, Morgan have all improved under mopo. Is it impossible for Gazza to improve the same way? He's only improving if he gets loaned out and learns how to be a goalkeeper which is not going to happen sitting on our bench. He needs to play so he learns how to make decisions and position himself correctly. If they arent going to loan him out then he has to go and a new back up brought in. Boruc has spent most of this year playing not fully fit because how bad the back up goalie is
Minty Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Please don't give him the honour of a serious and sensible reply. I'm trying to drag him, unsuspecting, into the realms of serious conversation. Shush, don't give it away.
Whitey Grandad Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Gazza needs to go out on loan and learn his trade or he never will be even a decent back up Can't we loan him to Portsmouth?
Dellman Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 What's wrong with Boruc? surely we won't have Gazza again next week?
Webby Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 (edited) Gazza is not a bad shot stopper - its his decision making and indecisiveness that makes him a decidely average keeper People say this about many keepers, including Davis, but most keepers are good shot stoppers, else they wouldn't be keepers. It's the other stuff that makes them good, or even great keepers. Edit: So, in conclusion, I agree. Edited 5 April, 2014 by Webby
Georgie Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 What's wrong with Boruc? surely we won't have Gazza again next week? Slight back injury according to saints. Take an injection and get on with it!! Seriously though really hope he's back next week, there is just no confidence in Gazzaniga whatsoever. If he has to play I would play Wanyama to give more protection to the back four.
Monk Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Not sure a thread is relevant or constructive regarding Gazzaniga. It will just turn into who can conjure up the best combination of metaphors and witty remarks to slate him. We ALL agree he isn't very good (generously) but remember he is one of OURS.....for now.
Minty Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Not sure a thread is relevant or constructive regarding Gazzaniga. Look who started it and you soon work out how 'relevant or constructive' it is. That said, if he hadn't before the game, someone would've after...
Window Cleaner Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Not sure a thread is relevant or constructive regarding Gazzaniga. It will just turn into who can conjure up the best combination of metaphors and witty remarks to slate him. We ALL agree he isn't very good (generously) but remember he is one of OURS.....for now. True, we shouldn't even be having this discussion........ because the bloke shouldn't even be here.
Monk Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Look who started it and you soon work out how 'relevant or constructive' it is. That said, if he hadn't before the game, someone would've after... I really do appreciate your desire to defend one of our own having read a number of your posts regarding Paulo but I am starting to think if you are in fact the lad himself? (After all it'll explain where he was for ninety minutes between 12:45 -14:15)
igsey Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Taters today said that Boruc is expected back next week.
Saint Garrett Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 He is a fcking appalling keeper let's be honest.
Minty Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 I really do appreciate your desire to defend one of our own having read a number of your posts regarding Paulo but I am starting to think if you are in fact the lad himself? (After all it'll explain where he was for ninety minutes between 12:45 -14:15) If you see all my posts today, you'll see that although I am not as sure as you that he was as clearly at fault for the third as you think, I am in no doubt that he's not good enough for us or the PL, make no mistake. My point about this thread was that Glasgow started it, and IMO he was clearly setting bait for what might have been about to occur. If he played well, he could say 'I told you so', and if he didn't (and he didn't) it just stirs things up.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 5 April, 2014 Author Posted 5 April, 2014 He is a fcking appalling keeper let's be honest. Really poor post See post 64
Monk Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 If you see all my posts today, you'll see that although I am not as sure as you that he was as clearly at fault for the third as you think, I am in no doubt that he's not good enough for us or the PL, make no mistake. My point about this thread was that Glasgow started it, and IMO he was clearly setting bait for what might have been about to occur. If he played well, he could say 'I told you so', and if he didn't (and he didn't) it just stirs things up. So basically your suggesting that Glasgow is a ballbag?
Convict Colony Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Can we loan him off for 3yrs to the champs (a la Courtois) and and wait until he bulks up and has dealt with the physical side of the game, think his reflexes and ground work is ok and kicking ok as well he just needs hard ugly forwards, defenders in his face week in and out.
Huffton Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Whilst he shows some flashes of ability he really hasnt improved since we bought him. Not good enough and never likely to be, get rid in the summer.
Noodles34 Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Really poor post See post 64 Jesus, you're such a skate I can smell you from here.
Gorgiesaint Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Whilst he shows some flashes of ability he really hasnt improved since we bought him. Not good enough and never likely to be, get rid in the summer. Would agree with that. He showed some ability whilst at Gillingham and as a young keeper, he was worth taking a gamble on. Whether it's a lack of ability or the way we've trained him, he hasn't trained on as we would have hoped and certainly doesn't look likely to reach the potential he showed. He, like Bart before him, probably needs a change of scene to refresh his career and give him a chance to get back on track. I'm not sure if this is part of a bigger problem. We've had a number of very promising young keepers who have struggled to step up to the Premier League - going right back to Neil Moss, then Alan Blayney, Paul Smith, Bart and now Gazza. I would say Gazza has had more chance than most before him, especially at the start of last season. Do we need to do something different with our young keepers e.g. give them a couple of seasons loan in L1 & then the Championship, or is it just that hard trying to find a young goalkeeper as they tend to develop later than most other positions?
Saint Martini Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 We should sign Stekelenburg from Fulham. Should be available on the cheap and has proven in the past he is a good goalkeeper. Besides that he is quite good with his feet from his time at Ajax.
S-Clarke Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 We should sign Stekelenburg from Fulham. Should be available on the cheap and has proven in the past he is a good goalkeeper. Besides that he is quite good with his feet from his time at Ajax. We need someone to replace Boruc as a first choice keeper, not to provide back up to him. And that's all that Stekelenburg would do. He can't even get into the Fulham side.
Dr. Kucho Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 We need someone to replace Boruc as a first choice keeper, not to provide back up to him. And that's all that Stekelenburg would do. He can't even get into the Fulham side. In his time at Ajax Stekelenburg was a very good keeper, however he seems to have stalled in his progress. I Agree with Martini that we should go for him, with a bit of confidence and a solid back 4 he could return to his previous best.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 5 April, 2014 Author Posted 5 April, 2014 Jesus, you're such a skate I can smell you from here. Defending a (young) SAINTS player, makes me a "skate"? Only on SWF :lol:
BotleySaint Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Anyone who would rather have Bart back in goal - I just saw Brentford Vs Notts County and I can safely say we are better off with Gazza.
gammon cheeks Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 In his time at Ajax Stekelenburg was a very good keeper, however he seems to have stalled in his progress. I Agree with Martini that we should go for him, with a bit of confidence and a solid back 4 he could return to his previous best. watched juve v lyon the other night and thought the Lyon keeper looked good ( f nose what his name was but he looked young and commanding)
Saint Fan CaM Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Feel sorry for the lad, but he shouldn't be at this level. He lacks the basic instincts and attributes to be a top level goal keeper and that isn't going to change. He'd be a decent keeper at L1 or L2 level I imagine, but he's got to go. It's not good enough for a club in our position league wise to have someone of his quality as backup. This ^ completely.
Clunge Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Saying he decent league 1 or 2 goalkeeper is just disrespectful of those leagues, he is truly atrocious as his job, to think he is premiership goalkeeper is unbelievable in all honesty!
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Saying he decent league 1 or 2 goalkeeper is just disrespectful of those leagues, he is truly atrocious as his job, to think he is premiership goalkeeper is unbelievable in all honesty! I would rather we had an Ant in goal
Wade Garrett Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 If you see all my posts today, you'll see that although I am not as sure as you that he was as clearly at fault for the third as you think, I am in no doubt that he's not good enough for us or the PL, make no mistake. My point about this thread was that Glasgow started it, and IMO he was clearly setting bait for what might have been about to occur. If he played well, he could say 'I told you so', and if he didn't (and he didn't) it just stirs things up. If you think this, then why say a post of mine about how poor a keeper is is silly? Seriously, I played a decent standard of football, and am not some fat keyboard warrior who has probably never played the game (although to be fair, I'm not exactly slim). If I played like he has this season, I would have been turfed out of even the Southern League. I've seen outfield players have to go between the sticks and do a better job than him. We had a 2 goal handicap today, against one of the best teams in the league. I feel sorry for the lad, but he is crap.
Noodles34 Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 Defending a (young) SAINTS player, makes me a "skate"? Only on SWF :lol: Yeah, keep the laughing icons going like your other mate. And the face palm, haha, I will give it to you, you can certainly corrupt a forum, that's for sure.
Noodles34 Posted 5 April, 2014 Posted 5 April, 2014 If you think this, then why say a post of mine about how poor a keeper is is silly? Seriously, I played a decent standard of football, and am not some fat keyboard warrior who has probably never played the game (although to be fair, I'm not exactly slim). If I played like he has this season, I would have been turfed out of even the Southern League. I've seen outfield players have to go between the sticks and do a better job than him. We had a 2 goal handicap today, against one of the best teams in the league. I feel sorry for the lad, but he is crap. I don't think you can be fairer than that, its not about getting at him, its about him not being good enough.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 5 April, 2014 Author Posted 5 April, 2014 Yeah, keep the laughing icons going like your other mate. And the face palm, haha, I will give it to you, you can certainly corrupt a forum, that's for sure. Gangs? Corrupting forums? Skate? You're funny mate :lol:
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