Viking Warrior Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 (edited) This has to be one of the most grotesque payouts ever. I feel very sad for the Dowlers and the other families lives he has ruined . Edited 4 April, 2014 by Viking Warrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 I've got absolutely no idea what the specifics of this story is.....but.....you can't have a situation where someone is attacked in prison and there is no punishment....no matter who the victim is, or what they've done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 The point is that he was COMPENSATED for being attacked in prison. Not condoning violence to anyone, but when did Bellfield compensate the Dowlers for the crime/harm he carried out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 ^ perfectly sums up the compensation culture. Can't blame Bellfield for this payout, he didn't decide the amount..... We've got ourselves in this situation, as wrong as it clearly is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 I've got absolutely no idea what the specifics of this story is.....but.....you can't have a situation where someone is attacked in prison and there is no punishment....no matter who the victim is, or what they've done Why am i always the one paying for it tho? Why can't the crims what duffed him up pay for it, or the prison guard what turned the blind eye, or whatever? I want my taxes used to pay for things that are important like nhs boob jobs, not greasing out serial killers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 You pay tax bear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 Being a c**t doesn't stop you having human rights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 Being a c**t doesn't stop you having human rights There is no such thing as a natural 'right'. In society these have to be earned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 You pay tax bear? erm stop trolling pls tokyos the topic at hand is bout this crim getting his hands on my dollar! Does anyone think it's a bit risky giving this guy £4500 when he's still in prison tho? I mean word will pretty soon get round that he's got all that money in his cell, and given that you tend to get quite a lot of criminals in prison it's only a matter of time before someone does a B & E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 There is no such thing as a natural 'right'. In society these have to be earned. Well if we're being picky, there is the Universal Declaration of Human Rights... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 Well if we're being picky, there is the Universal Declaration of Human Rights... Hmm, doesn't apply everywhere does it so it's not exactly 'universal'. It's easy for a load of do-gooders to make such declarations but did they include the bad guys in the discussions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 There should be a routine court order in cases like this that if the perpetrator ever wins the lottery, gets compensation, get left money etc then the cash should go to his victims family / charity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 There is no such thing as a natural 'right'. In society these have to be earned. Thank you. Just being human doesn't give you the right to anything, despite the bleating from ineffectual bodies such as the UN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 Thank you. Just being human doesn't give you the right to anything, despite the bleating from ineffectual bodies such as the UN. hmm i dunno, e.g. I think that all humans have the right not to be bum-raped as babies. No exceptions! I dunno how you could argue contrary, but i would be interested to hear about the babies you think should not be afforded this basic privilege. Once we have established the principal of human rights we can discuss extending them to include things like free school dinners & not getting duffed up in prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 There is no such thing as a natural 'right'. In society these have to be earned. And who decides whether someone has earned one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 The liberal elite strike again, there should have been punishment for those responsible but compensation from whom? The state? The taxpayer? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 Levi Bellfield convicted of 3 murders and 1 attempted murder. His victims were 13, 19 and 22 and the woman who survived was 18. His sole motive for at least one of these attacks was because the victim rejected his advances and this is likely to be the same for the other cases. Has also stood trial for the abduction and false imprisonment of a 17 year old female and the attempted murder of a 34 year old female. Also thought to have raped at least 2 women (1 of them twice) and seriously assaulted another 2 women. Is thought to have attempted to entice an 11 year old into his car the day before Milly Dowler disappeared and whilst under police surveillence was repeatedly seen talking to young girls at bus-stops. Also has convictions for assaulting a police officer and burglary. Possibly murdered a 14 year old girl in 1980 when he was 12 years old. Considered psychopathic, sociopathic, and an egomaniac. By law he's still entitled to the same legal rights as other Category A prisoners, and he's the type of person who'll look for any and every opportunity if those rights aren't met. Emotional hatred of people like him has no place in law, like it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 Emotional hatred of people like him has no place in law, like it or not. No reason why not, just needs a bit of common sense applying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 Human rights? Some of you loony liberals are nuts. He sacrificed his human rights the day he decided to kill innocent young girls for no reason other than he could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 Levi Bellfield convicted of 3 murders and 1 attempted murder. His victims were 13, 19 and 22 and the woman who survived was 18. His sole motive for at least one of these attacks was because the victim rejected his advances and this is likely to be the same for the other cases. Has also stood trial for the abduction and false imprisonment of a 17 year old female and the attempted murder of a 34 year old female. Also thought to have raped at least 2 women (1 of them twice) and seriously assaulted another 2 women. Is thought to have attempted to entice an 11 year old into his car the day before Milly Dowler disappeared and whilst under police surveillence was repeatedly seen talking to young girls at bus-stops. Also has convictions for assaulting a police officer and burglary. Possibly murdered a 14 year old girl in 1980 when he was 12 years old. Considered psychopathic, sociopathic, and an egomaniac. By law he's still entitled to the same legal rights as other Category A prisoners, and he's the type of person who'll look for any and every opportunity if those rights aren't met. Emotional hatred of people like him has no place in law, like it or not. I fully understand that, it does not make it right gets compensation when a punishment is correct for the offenders, why should he get money for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 4 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 4 April, 2014 The human rights act was brought in for specific reasons to protect people from scum like him . Not reward them. What compensation did the families of his victims get . Nothing . I blame Blair for not carefully looking at the impact of the human rights act . Yes it's there to protect people but surely not arseholes like this . Are the courts always going to be sympathetic to the likes of him and the savilles of this world ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 Tear it up and make our own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 hmm i dunno, e.g. I think that all humans have the right not to be bum-raped as babies. No exceptions! I dunno how you could argue contrary, but i would be interested to hear about the babies you think should not be afforded this basic privilege. Once we have established the principal of human rights we can discuss extending them to include things like free school dinners & not getting duffed up in prison. Worryingly I was about to give a similar example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 Human rights? Some of you loony liberals are nuts. He sacrificed his human rights the day he decided to kill innocent young girls for no reason other than he could. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 As I understand it when he was attacked he was on remand awaiting trial. In the eyes of the Law at that moment he was officially not guilty. Anyone who is on remand is entitled to be safe and to not be attacked hence this compensation. HOWEVER as far as I am concerned once a scumbag is found guilty of an offence like he was then he takes his chances like everyone else and no compo should be given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoPints Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 If he's been awarded compensation for getting a kicking in prison then any compensation he received should immediately be paid to the families of the victims of his crimes. That'll either stop him claiming or ensure he gets more kickings. Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 whats he going to do with the money anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 whats he going to do with the money anyway http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/36210420-20M-Portable-Emergency-Fire-Rescue-Escape-Safety-Nylon-Rope-Ladder-/291065147728?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item43c4d5b150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/36210420-20M-Portable-Emergency-Fire-Rescue-Escape-Safety-Nylon-Rope-Ladder-/291065147728?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item43c4d5b150 I'm relieved. That could have been so much worse taste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 4 April, 2014 Share Posted 4 April, 2014 I'm relieved. That could have been so much worse taste First bottle of wine thank the lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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