pap Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 The claim that internet forums are serious business is one that is frequently made here, albeit mostly in jest, and mostly aimed at wordy bastards like me that take a dictionary to the crapper. Leaving aside the fun and games aspect, are internet forums really serious business? If one looks at the substance of cryptome's "Gentleperson's Guide to Forum Spies" with any degree of credibility, looks like it just might be. http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm Would like some opinions, of course. However, I invite anyone who wants to be less than serious to play disinfo bingo instead ( ascribe the listed traits in the link to TSW posters for fun, etc ). Internet forums. Serious business? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 i got Told Off yesterday for ruining a thread about stock levels of saints branded babygrows. I spose I was being Topic Dilution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2014 i got Told Off yesterday for ruining a thread about stock levels of saints branded babygrows. I spose I was being Topic Dilution Stopping humanity from having a discussion to promote the interests of bear-kind, eh? You bastard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 yeah i spose, we may never find out why there is insufficient babygrows to fulfil market demands and it's All My Fault. I am v.quick to apologise when someone is angar bout my trolling tho, and i generally leave them alone after that! I mean, secretly I think they're a bit precious but i don't ever say nothing bout it. I like to think I'm Mostly Harmless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2014 Sorry bear. I'm now very disappointed. I was in love with the idea that you might be a furry 007. I know find that much like myself, you're doing this for lols and personal satisfaction. I presume there is no Bear Intelligence 6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 i have license to kill threads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 I've always though bear was harmless,useless, meaningless and worthless poster. I therefore get very angry when main boarders bully him like he is some little spotty geeky weakling. He can't help it yo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2014 i have license to kill threads Yes, well this one is just getting going. I feel you need to put the cat amongst the pigeons and name a potential spy ( e.g. Sarb is here on behalf of Evil Landlords Association, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 i have license to kill threads how dare you ruin a serious thread concerning my unborn twins. if you're going to post in the saintsweb main board, please confine yourself to: 1 wishing me luck 2 mentioning how quickly my precious unborn twins will grow up 3 welcoming southampton's newest (and most precious) fans into this cruel, miserable world. rant over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 How quickly do unborn twins grow up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2014 how dare you ruin a serious thread concerning my unborn twins. if you're going to post in the saintsweb main board, please confine yourself to: 1 wishing me luck 2 mentioning how quickly my precious unborn twins will grow up 3 welcoming southampton's newest (and most precious) fans into this cruel, miserable world. rant over Topic Dilution, right there. Stooge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 tokyos isn't a real saints fan. Tokyos favourite team is Man City. He heard about Man City when he was a kid struggling with his sexuality and he thought omg i would love to live in Man City, it sounds awesome! pap pls can you confirm which type of troll i'm doing here pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 I don't even like football bear. I often find it a strange coincidence that most people on here not only seem to like football but also mostly like the same team (cept Barry and you of course). This is the strangest religious forum I post on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 Topic Dilution, right there. Stooge classic distraction tactic, stooge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2014 tokyos isn't a real saints fan. Tokyos favourite team is Man City. He heard about Man City when he was a kid struggling with his sexuality and he thought omg i would love to live in Man City, it sounds awesome! pap pls can you confirm which type of troll i'm doing here pls I think we've been missing this one since ol' Verbal got de-fanged. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues. Can you oblige? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2014 This is about spies, bTripz. Your video is amusing, but is it relevant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 (edited) This is about spies, bTripz. Your video is amusing, but is it relevant? Sorry, just saw Fred's name and didn't read any of it....let me do that just now -- Ah sorry, consider it a diversionary tactic whilst I subvert Toke's sexuality and groom him for acceptance into the Citeh school of Religion Anyway what's it got to do with you you undercover beatnik, wannabe Scouse ****.. Edited 3 April, 2014 by Big Bad Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 I get accussed of taking the forum too serious, I am trying to be more light hearted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2014 Ah sorry, consider it a diversionary tactic whilst I subvert Toke's sexuality and groom him for acceptance into the Citeh school of Religion Anyway what's it got to do with you you undercover beatnik, wannabe Scouse ****.. This thread is really a primer for future replies, bTripz. In my many ding-dongs with people on this site, I've observed quite a few of these tactics being employed. Sometimes, I even bother pointing it out. Now, I'm not necessarily saying these people are forum spies, but if they're not, they should probably consider taking it up as an option. Why not get paid for something you're doing anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 Glasgow you need counselling as you have been scarred for life I get accussed of taking the forum too serious, I am trying to be more light hearted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2014 Glasgow you need counselling as you have been scarred for life I get accussed of taking the forum too serious, I am trying to be more light hearted Is this an invocation of mighty number 17, Viking Warrior? 17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues. I'm going to play along. Yes, the topic should be about Glasgow. Too few threads feature a discussion of his qualities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 Glasgow_saint = serious business? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2014 A fan of number 13, Glasgow? 13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards or with an apparent deductive logic which forbears any actual material fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 I invite anyone who wants to be less than serious to play disinfo bingo instead ( ascribe the listed traits in the link to TSW posters for fun, etc ). Would be quicker to list the traits that don't apply to certain posters on TSW.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 Would be quicker to list the traits that don't apply to posters on TSW.... honesty, intelligence + heterosexuality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 honesty, intelligence + heterosexuality I'm here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2014 Would be quicker to list the traits that don't apply to certain posters on TSW.... Almost certainly, but then none of us are here because we're time poor Besides, I have a highly transparent agenda to prosecute here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2014 Serious business: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/9845442/EU-to-set-up-euro-election-troll-patrol-to-tackle-Eurosceptic-surge.html The EU is setting up a war chest to debate Eurosceptics online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 yeah i spose, we may never find out why there is insufficient babygrows to fulfil market demands and it's All My Fault. I am v.quick to apologise when someone is angar bout my trolling tho, and i generally leave them alone after that! I mean, secretly I think they're a bit precious but i don't ever say nothing bout it. I like to think I'm Mostly Harmless. Respect. I for one admire people who don't stoop so low that they post their private opinions about other people on public internet forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2014 Respect. I for one admire people who don't stoop so low that they post their private opinions about other people on public internet forums. You've picked the wrong example there, bro. Bearsy called me díck once. He's not wrong, like - but there it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 (edited) Respect. I for one admire people who don't stoop so low that they post their private opinions about other people on public internet forums. i would never publicly criticise someone. People who do that, like e.g. Tokyo-Saint are f*cking w*nkers - what a prat he is yo! Ugly too, v.ugly he makes me sick + I mostly only look at him from behind. I pity the fool that is have to look at his dumb face. C*nt. Edited 3 April, 2014 by Bearsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 i would never publicly criticise someone. People who do that, like e.g. Tokyo-Saint are f*cking w*nkers - what a prat he is yo! Ugly too, v.ugly he makes me sick + I mostly only look at him from behind. I pity the fool that is have to look at his dumb face. C*nt. Is that when your, ahemm, walking your "dogs" together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 This is the only dog bear walks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 Oh sorry mods. Thought this thread was in the muppet show. It should be really. You should be moding it better to make sure stuff like this is in the correct forums. Maybe you should be apologising to us for that. Anyway, sorry. I very rarely post dog like gimp photos in the lounge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2014 A-ha! Do I spot number 18? 18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2014 Oh sorry mods. Thought this thread was in the muppet show. It should be really. You should be moding it better to make sure stuff like this is in the correct forums. Maybe you should be apologising to us for that. Anyway, sorry. I very rarely post dog like gimp photos in the lounge. To be fair Tokes, the thread is trying to determine whether the Internet is serious business. Blame Bearsy for early muppetisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 3 April, 2014 Share Posted 3 April, 2014 Blame Bearsy That seems to be the stock response round here lately + I'm sick of it! How is you dare! (this is rule #2 i think) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2014 That seems to be the stock response round here lately + I'm sick of it! How is you dare! (this is rule #2 i think) Indeed. People have thrown #2 my way several times. It's shít. 2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the 'How dare you!' gambit. I'm not sure on reputation points protocol away from home, Bear - but if it were down to me, this fine on-topic contribution would net you some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpbury Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Interesting read, written really badly and with bad grammar. (Topic dilution). What it says is THE MAN wants us all to be like the elite classes in Hunger Games, endlessly discussing completely vacuous subjects, or esle slaves. That's what the stooge mods are working towards on every forum, everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 7 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Interesting read, written really badly and with bad grammar. (Topic dilution). What it says is THE MAN wants us all to be like the elite classes in Hunger Games, endlessly discussing completely vacuous subjects, or esle slaves. That's what the stooge mods are working towards on every forum, everywhere. If I'm being perfectly honest, half the reason I started this thread was to have a snipe at some of my semi-regular correspondents. In doing that, and especially in playing with the Bear, I've probably done the topic something of a disservice. If Snowden is to be believed, the Internet is serious business. Turkey suspended Twitter for weeks recently after some tweets linked a leaked transcript of Turkish commanders ostensibly planning a false flag attack in Syria. The US government also recently setup a Cuban variant of Twitter for disinformation and propaganda purposes. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/07/us-cuba-usa-idUSBREA350MO20140407 In terms of bang for your buck, opinion formers on the Internet are worryingly cost-effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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