Saint-Armstrong Posted 29 March, 2014 Posted 29 March, 2014 The boy has well and truly come good, and I think he can get even better if he stays with us and with this group and manager.
laughba Posted 29 March, 2014 Posted 29 March, 2014 Been good this season, but for the amount of chances he always gets he could and should be higher up on that list. However take nothing away from the fact he is able to get into those goal-scoring position due to his athleticism, work ethic and off the ball movement. Just needs to be more clinical.
Mattio Posted 29 March, 2014 Posted 29 March, 2014 His accuracy seems to have improved a lot in the last few games but I agree with the above, it is something that can be worked on and with his confidence growing game on game it's going to happen.
John Boy Saint Posted 29 March, 2014 Posted 29 March, 2014 He seems to have rediscovered the edge he had at Burnley, and reason why we bought him.
Wiggles31 Posted 29 March, 2014 Posted 29 March, 2014 Has been brilliant this season and has even more potential. Has to be on the plane.
ottery st mary Posted 29 March, 2014 Posted 29 March, 2014 Jay Rod on his way to Rio with Lambert , Lallana and Shaw..:):)
hypochondriac Posted 29 March, 2014 Posted 29 March, 2014 Has been brilliant this season and has even more potential. Has to be on the plane. Quite unlikely I would have thought. Lambo will be in before him and then it will be sturridge, welbeck and rooney.
Wiggles31 Posted 29 March, 2014 Posted 29 March, 2014 Quite unlikely I would have thought. Lambo will be in before him and then it will be sturridge, welbeck and rooney. 15 goals and playing on the left. He is a million miles better than Welbeck.
hypochondriac Posted 29 March, 2014 Posted 29 March, 2014 15 goals and playing on the left. He is a million miles better than Welbeck. Where did I dispute that view? Fact is that barring injuries that is what is most likely to happen.
Rasiak-9- Posted 29 March, 2014 Posted 29 March, 2014 He makes his own chances though. Thats whats so great about him. The toe-poke into the side netting? Good ball over the top but he needed pace, strength and power to shrug off Williamson, good ball but a lot of strikers still wouldn't have managed to do anything with that. The header into the side netting? Again; good ball from Chambers but Rodriguez leapt up to ~8 feet in the air to win a contested header and bullet it down. No way was that a 'should have scored'. Was like watching Ronaldo that.
Lighthouse Posted 29 March, 2014 Posted 29 March, 2014 15 goals and playing on the left. He is a million miles better than Welbeck. Yes but Welbeck plays for Man Utd, so obviously he is a much better player. I'm taking the p*ss but rather tragically I think most of the England management believe this. JRod has got to be on the plane IMO but he wont be. Let's just hope Welbeck gets injured.
CityRanger Posted 29 March, 2014 Posted 29 March, 2014 Roy Hodgson made a point that JRod was in for and competing with Welbeck when he first called him up. Our man is improving every week whilst Welbeck has gone backwards. Interesting call...
igsey Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 Could be an interesting last day of the season... our team spirit is widely known and it doesn't look like Fonte will be going to Brazil, hopefully he'll do everything he can to get his mate Jay there in his place by taking out Welbeck!
Goatboy Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 I'm hoping Hodgson takes 5 forwards: Rooney, Sturridge, Welbeck, Lambert and Rodriguez. If it was my choice as to who misses out? Either Glass Jack Wilshere, Sterling or Barkley.
saintadjg Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 Personally I think Roy wants to take JRod. He's a better version of Wellbeck
Frank's cousin Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 I'm hoping Hodgson takes 5 forwards: Rooney, Sturridge, Welbeck, Lambert and Rodriguez. If it was my choice as to who misses out? Either Glass Jack Wilshere, Sterling or Barkley. Sadly don't think we will see more than 2 Saints in the final Squad, Lambert and Lallana. Lambert because he deserves to - he may not have scored as many this year but he contributes so much more... In addition he has that boyish infectious enthusiasm that makes a real difference in a squad. Adam is now a shoe in..... But inevitably, Welbeck, Sturridge and Rooney will be the other 3 strikers... Think Sturridge will do well, but most likely we will see the same Rooney.... Bad first game and then in a huff for the remainder of the tournament, trying to do everything himself and forgetting football is a team game.... And for some strange reason, Milner will go.... Shaw, I think will also miss out as Roy gives Cole a last ego trip... JRod, should go IMHO, but will miss out Shaw, as Roy suggests they are too young and their time will come.... Just wish he would see benefit of talking them all, they play together, are on form and have the spirit that can take you a long way in tournaments - something we always lack with the 'golden' spoilt, rich generation that never seemed interested...
Goatboy Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 Sadly don't think we will see more than 2 Saints in the final Squad, Lambert and Lallana. Lambert because he deserves to - he may not have scored as many this year but he contributes so much more... In addition he has that boyish infectious enthusiasm that makes a real difference in a squad. Adam is now a shoe in..... But inevitably, Welbeck, Sturridge and Rooney will be the other 3 strikers... Think Sturridge will do well, but most likely we will see the same Rooney.... Bad first game and then in a huff for the remainder of the tournament, trying to do everything himself and forgetting football is a team game.... And for some strange reason, Milner will go.... Shaw, I think will also miss out as Roy gives Cole a last ego trip... JRod, should go IMHO, but will miss out Shaw, as Roy suggests they are too young and their time will come.... Just wish he would see benefit of talking them all, they play together, are on form and have the spirit that can take you a long way in tournaments - something we always lack with the 'golden' spoilt, rich generation that never seemed interested... I may well be overly optimistic but I think Hodgson will see this benefit and will pick at least three Saints. The only one who may miss out for me is Shaw.
Convict Colony Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 What did Einstein say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. I think we are doing Roy a disservice, if I was him I would be using the heat and humidity angle to drop these older players like Lampard/Cole etc and promote youth into this world cup. We did after all see the effect the young german team had in the last world cup where as against Algeria we were awful. If Hoddle can drop Gazza then Roy can dump Welbeck.
S-Clarke Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 I'm of the belief that we have near on no chance of doing anything at this world cup, so why waste the world cup with has-beens and players who won't be around for the next one? Use it as an opportunity to hand the likes of Adam, Jay, Barkley, Shaw, Chamberlain tournament experience. It's utterly pointless taking the likes of Cole, Lampard, Barry etc. It's a chance to blood some youth in one of the most anticipated world cups in decades, let's hope they see it the same way.
nta786 Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 Jay Rodriguez- surely contender for player of the month? I don't think he'll win it, and apart from Liverpool game, goals against CP, Norwich, Spurs and Newcastle might make him a contender? 5 goals this month, all coming in those last four games
Lighthouse Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 Welbeck has been good for England. He didn't earn his chance initially, but he did take it. Be odd to leave him out. Think he needs a new club though, should be playing every week and improving not getting rusty on the bench. Wonder if he'd come here, unite the young England attackers. He and JRod could either play left on through the middle or switch. Could work very well. I wouldn't say he has done enough to warrant a place in the squad in spite of players doing more at club level. He has 8 goals, half of which came against Moldova and San Marino. Take a look at his goals this season. He has one against teams in the top half of the Prem all season, against Spurs. http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=48971
Rasiak-9- Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 Sadly don't think we will see more than 2 Saints in the final Squad, Lambert and Lallana. Lambert because he deserves to - he may not have scored as many this year but he contributes so much more... In addition he has that boyish infectious enthusiasm that makes a real difference in a squad. Adam is now a shoe in..... But inevitably, Welbeck, Sturridge and Rooney will be the other 3 strikers... Think Sturridge will do well, but most likely we will see the same Rooney.... Bad first game and then in a huff for the remainder of the tournament, trying to do everything himself and forgetting football is a team game.... And for some strange reason, Milner will go.... Shaw, I think will also miss out as Roy gives Cole a last ego trip... JRod, should go IMHO, but will miss out Shaw, as Roy suggests they are too young and their time will come.... Just wish he would see benefit of talking them all, they play together, are on form and have the spirit that can take you a long way in tournaments - something we always lack with the 'golden' spoilt, rich generation that never seemed interested... I wouldn't take Lambert as I'm afraid he's more of a deep-lying support striker than the target-man people seem to think he is. As such I don't think he'd be able to add anything really against decent opposition at international level. Rodriguez on the other hand should be third in the pecking order behind only Rooney and Sturridge.
Saint Charlie Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 Hope we sort Jay's contract out soon. He has played the required number of games to trigger a new one.
mitch01 Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 Not sure there's room for Rodriguez and Lambert. If thats the case, whoever doesn't make it can consider themselves incredibly unlucky. Rodriguez was fantastic vs Norwich and again yesterday, he's such a threat now.
Saint_Tony Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 This will sound harsh, but with the amount of chances he misses, he should have a lot more goals. Easily our most improved player this season, and the way he's been playing there's no reason he can't get to the 20 goal mark
Badger Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 Personally I think Roy wants to take JRod. He's a better version of Wellbeck I'm not a fan of Wellbeck and find watching him play for England frustrating. He always seems to play in clown's shoes, and spend much of the time falling on his arse. That said, from Hodgson's perspective, Wellbeck has to some extent established himself in the squad, played in a tournament before, and in the Champions League level for his club. Rodriguez on the other hand made one indifferent appearance for England, and probably represents a greater gamble.Unfortunately I expect Woy will take the safer option of Wellbeck, if Rodriguez went to Brazil and "froze" the press would have a field day. . This will sound harsh, but with the amount of chances he misses, he should have a lot more goals. Easily our most improved player this season, and the way he's been playing there's no reason he can't get to the 20 goal mark Totally agree, there have been many occasions where he has tried to stroke the ball into the net, and even yesterday he probably could have had a hat trick before he eventually scored his first. I expect Rodriguez will play for England many times in the future, but he seems more likely to be another Alan Smith (ex Arsenal) striker, than another Alan Shearer.
rick1976.4.38 Posted 30 March, 2014 Posted 30 March, 2014 15 goals and playing on the left. He is a million miles better than Welbeck. he is in the premiership a better player but welbeck when playing for England hasn't been bad think hodgson will take welbeck for this reason
lickierambert Posted 31 March, 2014 Posted 31 March, 2014 What excites me most is he can get so, so much better. He still misses loads of sitters Don't think he'll go to the World Cup, though. Only 1 of Welbeck or him will go and we know which one Hodgson prefers...
DT Posted 31 March, 2014 Posted 31 March, 2014 I'm of the belief that we have near on no chance of doing anything at this world cup, so why waste the world cup with has-beens and players who won't be around for the next one? Use it as an opportunity to hand the likes of Adam, Jay, Barkley, Shaw, Chamberlain tournament experience. It's utterly pointless taking the likes of Cole, Lampard, Barry etc. It's a chance to blood some youth in one of the most anticipated world cups in decades, let's hope they see it the same way. Couldn't agree more. Take a team based on youth. Not sure it will include Jay Rod though.
Saint_Tony Posted 31 March, 2014 Posted 31 March, 2014 Even if he gets to the 20 goal mark, I don't think Roy will have space for him in the final 23 unless Welbeck gets injured.
Lets B Avenue Posted 31 March, 2014 Posted 31 March, 2014 Even if he gets to the 20 goal mark, I don't think Roy will have space for him in the final 23 unless Welbeck gets injured. Better get Tahar El Khalej back to do a "Keiron Dyer" in the final game.
DuncanRG Posted 31 March, 2014 Posted 31 March, 2014 You couldn't ignore 20 league goals, and you really couldn't ignore them if two of his attacking partners were already in the squad. He'd do incredibly well to reach it with six games to go though.
Gemmel Posted 31 March, 2014 Posted 31 March, 2014 I'm of the belief that we have near on no chance of doing anything at this world cup, so why waste the world cup with has-beens and players who won't be around for the next one? Use it as an opportunity to hand the likes of Adam, Jay, Barkley, Shaw, Chamberlain tournament experience. It's utterly pointless taking the likes of Cole, Lampard, Barry etc. It's a chance to blood some youth in one of the most anticipated world cups in decades, let's hope they see it the same way. There is a lot of truth in what you say, but that's not Hodgson's remit..... he will be gone either after the world cup or after the euro's so there is nothing in it for him to do that.
Saint_Tony Posted 31 March, 2014 Posted 31 March, 2014 He'll play it safe and overload the squad with central midfielders like Lampard and only take 4 strikers. Complete waste of time
Saint137 Posted 31 March, 2014 Posted 31 March, 2014 Big, powerful, fast, brilliant close control. Agree with others, if he took more of his chances he'd be in with more of a chance. Also I don't think the way England play suits his style, he's best running on to long passes rather than the short range pinging about we seem to do. Getting better and better though. If he gets another 4 or 5 before the end of the season, and/or plays well against Citeh & Utd he might just edge out Welbeck (still think Roy will take him as for all his ****eness at club level he's been pretty good for England). Having said that, can't underestimate the advantage playing three club mates who instinctively know each others games would bring.
trousers Posted 1 April, 2014 Posted 1 April, 2014 Footy Paraphernalia @newsmogsy Jay Rodriguez is in the European team of the week from the top 5 leagues via @WhoScored #saintsfc @SaintsfcViews pic.twitter.com/sQsZVmRMM5
Bearsy Posted 1 April, 2014 Posted 1 April, 2014 you'd think missing the target with 5 chances in the first 20 mins would impact on ur ability to score a 10.0. I like the all Rod look to left wing tho.
Minty Posted 1 April, 2014 Posted 1 April, 2014 The thing that I love most about Rodriguez is that he is far from the finished article. He's good already, getting better all the time, and could be frightening in a year or two. Think how good he could become. That is exciting.
The Kraken Posted 1 April, 2014 Posted 1 April, 2014 you'd think missing the target with 5 chances in the first 20 mins would impact on ur ability to score a 10.0. I like the all Rod look to left wing tho. Rod Rodriguez is a good left back, we should sign him if Shaw leaves.
Giordano Posted 1 April, 2014 Posted 1 April, 2014 I'm sorry for being unsporting and all that but i'm desperately hoping that Welbeck picks up a knock as does Cole. Nothing serious mind, just enough to rule them out, sprained ankle will do. If so Luke and Jrod are next in line. I think Ads and Rickie are going to Brazil whatever. Rickie is way different to the other strikers and Adam is just in a purple patch playing his best ever footie...just keep it going son in the Brazilian sunshine and make us proud out there!
Window Cleaner Posted 1 April, 2014 Posted 1 April, 2014 Rod Rodriguez is a good left back, we should sign him if Shaw leaves. Far too good for a pile of crap like Wolfsburg that's for sure.
The Kraken Posted 1 April, 2014 Posted 1 April, 2014 Far too good for a pile of crap like Wolfsburg that's for sure. I genuinely have no clue who he is, or if his name is Rod. I hope it's Rod.
Window Cleaner Posted 1 April, 2014 Posted 1 April, 2014 I genuinely have no clue who he is, or if his name is Rod. I hope it's Rod. Ricardo I think and he is bloody good, better than Shaw now, maybe not when Shaw is 21 though. Great crosser, lovely free kick artist.
Berudenot2 Posted 1 April, 2014 Posted 1 April, 2014 I'm of the belief that we have near on no chance of doing anything at this world cup, so why waste the world cup with has-beens and players who won't be around for the next one? Use it as an opportunity to hand the likes of Adam, Jay, Barkley, Shaw, Chamberlain tournament experience. It's utterly pointless taking the likes of Cole, Lampard, Barry etc. It's a chance to blood some youth in one of the most anticipated world cups in decades, let's hope they see it the same way. This. Tournament experience with Euro 2016 in mind as we won't get beyond the group stage at this WC IMHO.
Bearsy Posted 1 April, 2014 Posted 1 April, 2014 i reckon we're gonna win world cup + when we do the likes of S-Clarke & Berudenot2 will not be permitted to enjoy it because of their harsh words + pessimisms. They will be in football jail for crimes against ENGLAND
Window Cleaner Posted 1 April, 2014 Posted 1 April, 2014 Jay Rod wont be going I'm afraid Can't rule it out completely though. Welbeck still has about 10 matches to get through. All of our hopefuls will need to turn in a good performance next Saturday though.
Bearsy Posted 1 April, 2014 Posted 1 April, 2014 Can't rule it out completely though. Welbeck still has about 10 matches to get through. All of our hopefuls will need to turn in a good performance next Saturday though. i dunno that Jay is really battling with Wellbz. Wellbz is going no matter what IMO, barring injure. I reckon if Jay is battling at all, he is battling with Sterling + Townsend for a squad place. Prob Sterling will get it tho.
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