Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 March, 2014 Share Posted 28 March, 2014 According to mopo SOUTHAMPTON boss Mauricio Pochettino believes Luke Shaw is already the best left-back in the world. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/371752/Southampton-boss-Mauricio-Pochettino-thinks-Luke-Shaw-is-the-best-left-back-in-the-world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 28 March, 2014 Share Posted 28 March, 2014 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?49556-Newcastle-build-up-thread/page2&p=1908730#post1908730 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 March, 2014 Author Share Posted 28 March, 2014 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?49556-Newcastle-build-up-thread/page2&p=1908730#post1908730 Deserves its own thread. First time a Saints player has been best in the world for his position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 28 March, 2014 Share Posted 28 March, 2014 He's clearly not the best in the world yet, and MP's statement did not say that either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 28 March, 2014 Share Posted 28 March, 2014 He's not, and it's being said to try and up his price in the Summer. Worth saying imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 March, 2014 Author Share Posted 28 March, 2014 He's not, and it's being said to try and up his price in the Summer. Worth saying imo. Do you think hes the best in England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 28 March, 2014 Share Posted 28 March, 2014 Get ready to write out a £50,000,000 cheque, Roman... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 28 March, 2014 Share Posted 28 March, 2014 He's clearly not the best in the world yet, and MP's statement did not say that either oh yeah i just read the article + ponch didn't say quite what the daily star headline said! Bloody tabloids yo! i think he is quite good tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 28 March, 2014 Share Posted 28 March, 2014 Do you think hes the best in England? He's not better than Baines, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 28 March, 2014 Share Posted 28 March, 2014 He actually said "I don't know that he is not the best in the world, perhaps" but the translator didn't make it particularly clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 March, 2014 Share Posted 28 March, 2014 Glasgow's form has definitely mirrored that of Portsmouth over the past couple of years. He actually used to be a decent WUM and then got drunk of some relative success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 28 March, 2014 Share Posted 28 March, 2014 he was one of my top 5 posters when i joined saintsweb! Glasgow always seemed v.happy + enjoying himself. Lately tho i detect a bitterness of tone, and some of the stuff seems a bit lazy like he's just going through the motions. I hope he is ok srsly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 28 March, 2014 Share Posted 28 March, 2014 Glasgow's form has definitely mirrored that of Portsmouth over the past couple of years. He actually used to be a decent WUM and then got drunk of some relative success. One could say that he's the new Alpine, (who hardly seems to post nowadays...). Not me though, oh dearie me no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 March, 2014 Share Posted 28 March, 2014 he was one of my top 5 posters when i joined saintsweb! Glasgow always seemed v.happy + enjoying himself. Lately tho i detect a bitterness of tone, and some of the stuff seems a bit lazy like he's just going through the motions. I hope he is ok srsly Ditto. Quoting the Daily Star makes me concerned for the lad. He might even slip away to the Ugly Inside soon. Sad to watch over the past year or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 28 March, 2014 Share Posted 28 March, 2014 One could say that he's the new Alpine, (who hardly seems to post nowadays...). Not me though, oh dearie me no. The joy of having them both on ignore, seriously you should try it, it's like a magic formula for improving this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 28 March, 2014 Share Posted 28 March, 2014 (edited) Glasgow's form has definitely mirrored that of Portsmouth over the past couple of years. He actually used to be a decent WUM and then got drunk of some relative success. Like the Skates speculating to accumulate, Glasgow had too many WUM eggs in one basket. The departure of Cortese has hit him hard - God forbid 'MoPo' should do the same. Maybe he can turn it around in the transfer window with his ITK schtick, though the World Cup is going to limit his opportunities. He needs to rediscover his mojo quick. Edited 28 March, 2014 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 March, 2014 Author Share Posted 28 March, 2014 :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 March, 2014 Share Posted 28 March, 2014 :lol: Admitting there is a problem is the first step to recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 28 March, 2014 Share Posted 28 March, 2014 Deserves its own thread. First time a Saints player has been best in the world for his position? Not true, Matt Busby famously said that Big Ron was the best centre forward in the world. Shaw clearly isn't the best LB in the world, probably not even the best in England, but he has potential to be so, especially when he starts scoring goals as well. Is he as good as Baines, or is he as good a LB as Coleman is a RB? Anyway, what is your opinion Toffee Saint? Or in the style of your reference to our manager, my new moniker for you, ToSa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 28 March, 2014 Share Posted 28 March, 2014 Not true, Matt Busby famously said that Big Ron was the best centre forward in the world. Shaw clearly isn't the best LB in the world, probably not even the best in England, but he has potential to be so, especially when he starts scoring goals as well. Is he as good as Baines, or is he as good a LB as Coleman is a RB? Anyway, what is your opinion Toffee Saint? Or in the style of your reference to our manager, my new moniker for you, ToSa. That, sir, is genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedmaul Posted 30 March, 2014 Share Posted 30 March, 2014 For anyone, like myself who thought that Luke was a Chelsea fan and grew up near Cobham training ground and convinced that he'll go in summer ... Had a chat with a school friend of his ... "Given I went to school with him, and knew him well enough (must have mentioned a few times that I used to mark him in training) until a few years ago, Cobham is not where he is from! Cobham's a good 20-30 minutes away (I just want to make sure people know I'm not from a town where Chelsea train)! The too small story is true though, and the family support. However, his Dad is very switched on about what's best career wise, he won't just move to Chelsea because he supports them, he'd only move if he'd be a guaranteed starter. I wouldn't rule out United just yet. Still a god chance he'd spend another season at Soton too, he owes a great deal to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedmaul Posted 30 March, 2014 Share Posted 30 March, 2014 Too small story being Chelsea rejected him as a 13 year old, as being yep too small, Saints stepped in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 30 March, 2014 Share Posted 30 March, 2014 If we can keep this team together for another year we'll be very lucky indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezza Posted 31 March, 2014 Share Posted 31 March, 2014 I am of an opinion that Shaw is as good Baines right now and maybe better at picking when to get forward and not to. I also think both of our right backs are better than Johnson and Walker the two first choices for England, they both have the positional sense of a flip flop and leave the distinctly average England centre halves, whoever plays, exposed. I thought Clyne had the potential to be as good as any full back I had seen for years but Chambers has all the same potential and I am not sure who is best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 31 March, 2014 Share Posted 31 March, 2014 Was a palace fan on TalkSport earlier saying Ward is better than both Walker and Johnson. No idea how they're both shoe ins for the England squad personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 31 March, 2014 Share Posted 31 March, 2014 I've certainly been impressed with Ward this season. More so than either of Walker or Johnson, but they have international experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 31 March, 2014 Share Posted 31 March, 2014 Was a palace fan on TalkSport earlier saying Ward is better than both Walker and Johnson. No idea how they're both shoe ins for the England squad personally One plays for Liverpool, the other for Spurs. Simple really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 31 March, 2014 Share Posted 31 March, 2014 I am of an opinion that Shaw is as good Baines right now and maybe better at picking when to get forward and not to. I also think both of our right backs are better than Johnson and Walker the two first choices for England, they both have the positional sense of a flip flop and leave the distinctly average England centre halves, whoever plays, exposed. I thought Clyne had the potential to be as good as any full back I had seen for years but Chambers has all the same potential and I am not sure who is best Glenn Johnson has done ok this season, and he's playing for a side that look like they could win the league. That said, liverpool's strengths have not really been in defence, and Johnson's best work has (as ever) come when he has been attacking. With England looking likely to be up against it in all group games, having a right back who isn't very good at defending is going to be fun. Kyle Walker has been utterly atrocious this season and taken a real step backwards. If Clyne had kept his place i think he could genuinely have challenged for a spot on the plane, he was definitely in Hodgson's thoughts. But the emergence of Chambers has added a new dimension, and knocked Clyne back in the England reckoning. It's also far too early for Chambers to be getting capped, he's not quite there yet and still got plenty to learn (although hugely impressive so far). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 1 April, 2014 Share Posted 1 April, 2014 I don't think he's at that level yet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 1 April, 2014 Share Posted 1 April, 2014 When Mopo is "quoted" you do realise that it is an interpreted quote? I.e. it has been spoken in Argentinian Spanish and converted to english. There's always going to be something "lost in translation" as they say. FWIW its nonsense to say he is the World's best or even close. He does not even play for England- yet, regularly. Has he played against Messi/Ronaldo/Zlatan in a World Cup or champions league or any European tie? Nope. You can judge it on potential and his EPL performances and 45 minutes at Wembley if you like in which case its a very good and very strong possible with hope for the future ~ but to expand it out from there is silly without him actually doing anything. And Mopo did not even really say that - he intimated that Luke "might" be the best in his position right now for all we know. A mischievous seed of a comment motivated by - well we can all surmise as to the reasons.... My way of judging such questions is to ask the equivalent of "Show me the medals". In England alone, Shaw has nothing, Baines has got a record for taking EPL penalties but not much else whereas Ashley Cole has a museum full. The best current lb in England is Cole by that reckoning. Of course I want Luke to go to Brazil though so I think he should go as understudy to Baines. Cole should retire from internationals with dignity and footballing reputation intact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JN9 Posted 1 April, 2014 Share Posted 1 April, 2014 When Mopo is "quoted" you do realise that it is an interpreted quote? I.e. it has been spoken in Argentinian Spanish and converted to english. There's always going to be something "lost in translation" as they say. FWIW its nonsense to say he is the World's best or even close. He does not even play for England- yet, regularly. Has he played against Messi/Ronaldo/Zlatan in a World Cup or champions league or any European tie? Nope. You can judge it on potential and his EPL performances and 45 minutes at Wembley if you like in which case its a very good and very strong possible with hope for the future ~ but to expand it out from there is silly without him actually doing anything. And Mopo did not even really say that - he intimated that Luke "might" be the best in his position right now for all we know. A mischievous seed of a comment motivated by - well we can all surmise as to the reasons.... My way of judging such questions is to ask the equivalent of "Show me the medals". In England alone, Shaw has nothing, Baines has got a record for taking EPL penalties but not much else whereas Ashley Cole has a museum full. The best current lb in England is Cole by that reckoning. Of course I want Luke to go to Brazil though so I think he should go as understudy to Baines. Cole should retire from internationals with dignity and footballing reputation intact. Ashley Cole should absolutely not retire from international football... As much as i'd like Shaw to go to Brazil I would understand the reasons for taking Cole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 April, 2014 Share Posted 1 April, 2014 Best left back in the world ?? I couldn't say but I saw a young bloke play for the Swiss national side a while back and he as good, bloody good, far better than Shaw in his current state. Strange name for a Swiss though, Rodriguez, think he plays in Germany somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 1 April, 2014 Share Posted 1 April, 2014 his hair tho windows, surely you cannot countenance rodriguez hair-do? His hair is no better than League 1 standard IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 April, 2014 Share Posted 1 April, 2014 his hair tho windows, surely you cannot countenance rodriguez hair-do? His hair is no better than League 1 standard IMO Well in that case Luke's haircut must be about Hampshire League standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 1 April, 2014 Share Posted 1 April, 2014 I dunno you can see that Luke's hair is coming on leaps and bounds, and all credit to Ponch + the coaching team for that. If you look at what he was sporting only a couple of years ago it's clear to me that in a couple of years Shaw could easily have world class hair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 1 April, 2014 Share Posted 1 April, 2014 (edited) Well he must be on the right track as he has just been named left back and the only Englishman in the Best Young Players in the world by Sky Italia :-) like the look of that Mitrovic up front this summer. Edited 1 April, 2014 by Convict Colony included pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 April, 2014 Share Posted 1 April, 2014 Well he must be on the right track as he has just been named left back and the only Englishman in the Best Young Players in the world by Sky Italia :-) like the look of that Mitrovic up front this summer. Simon Peach @SimonPeach #SaintsFC's @LukeShaw3 is the best young left-back in the world, according to @Gazzetta_it. Only Englishman on list pic.twitter.com/OuWHdFVOqo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 1 April, 2014 Share Posted 1 April, 2014 i bought Mitrovic on football manager + he was aces. Hopefully ponch is also playing football manager to keep up with the latest scouting infos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 April, 2014 Share Posted 1 April, 2014 Simon Peach @SimonPeach #SaintsFC's @LukeShaw3 is the best young left-back in the world, according to @Gazzetta_it. Only Englishman on list pic.twitter.com/OuWHdFVOqo Well that's a crock for a start Kurt Zouma is a CB not a RB. NB Rabiot is crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 1 April, 2014 Share Posted 1 April, 2014 i bought Mitrovic on football manager + he was aces. Hopefully ponch is also playing football manager to keep up with the latest scouting infos. The git turned me (Derby) down and went to Athletico, they won the league and he scored 35+ goals. This was a few seasons in, he had already gone to Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 1 April, 2014 Share Posted 1 April, 2014 i was v.lucky, i only bought him cos Arsene Wenger was outbid me on some player called Rondon. Arsene Wenger really loves Rondon, he signs him all the time. Ponch should maybe look at Rondon if our bid for Mitrovic falls through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 1 April, 2014 Share Posted 1 April, 2014 I dunno you can see that Luke's hair is coming on leaps and bounds, and all credit to Ponch + the coaching team for that. If you look at what he was sporting only a couple of years ago it's clear to me that in a couple of years Shaw could easily have world class hair Cant see much improvement in this photo, Bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 1 April, 2014 Share Posted 1 April, 2014 Simon Peach @SimonPeach #SaintsFC's @LukeShaw3 is the best young left-back in the world, according to @Gazzetta_it. Only Englishman on list pic.twitter.com/OuWHdFVOqo Is that Lucas Piazon, the kid at Chelsea? Heard so much about him being a future star but didn't even get a look in there. It's bizarre how not even foreign youngsters who are imported get games there. Let's sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 1 April, 2014 Share Posted 1 April, 2014 Well he must be on the right track as he has just been named left back and the only Englishman in the Best Young Players in the world by Sky Italia :-) like the look of that Mitrovic up front this summer. Seems to be a distinct lack of movement and pace in that team. Only Englishman in the team, I guess that depends on who Januzaj eventually decides to play for doesn't it? Also would not be too happy with a keeper called Scuffet, Boruz' kicking is bad enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 April, 2014 Share Posted 1 April, 2014 A top goalie called Scuffet.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 1 April, 2014 Share Posted 1 April, 2014 A top goalie called Scuffet.... Kelvin could be his kicking coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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