warsash saint Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 Your comment about Gashy is just funny. So the Troll from the Tirol crys fail everytime anyone dares to question his predicatble bedwetting rants after every defeat...... YET has a dig for someone having a different view to Ramirez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 (edited) So the Troll from the Tirol crys fail everytime anyone dares to question his predicatble bedwetting rants after every defeat...... YET has a dig for someone having a different view to Ramirez! Did i have a dig ? I thought I just inferred I found his opinion hillarious. And I dont "cry fail" about anyone questioning my posts - just the inveitable personal abuse that goes with it, which you have admirably illustrated again. Btw, I am not from Tirol. I am from Southampton but live in one of the other counties of Austria. Fail again. I could describe you as "W++ker from Warsash", but I wont. Edited 25 March, 2014 by alpine_saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 Did i have a dig ? I thought I just inferred I found his opinion hillarious. And I dont "cry fail" about anyone questioning my posts - just the inveitable personal abuse that goes with it, which you have admirably illustrated again. Btw, I am not from Tirol. I am from Southampton but live in one of the other counties of Austria. Fail again. What's the weather like there? Gloomy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 I prefer a CEO that is quiet. Better than an egomaniac who loves being on telly or in the papers. This. Let's hope our new man spends less time cosying up to his chums from Sky Sports and the Daily Mail and more time securing commercial sponsorships that are a wee bit less pitiful than the previous suit saddled us with. When WBA have a shirt sponsorship deal worth of 5 times ours, something is seriously lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 Good. Appointment from within, knows the players, the staff, will help our new external chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 Good. Appointment from within, knows the players, the staff, will help our new external chairman. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 I'm looking forward to seeing his airbrushed picture on the cover of the Newcastle programme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 Until he's pictured in his own personalised tracksuit in the pre-season squad photo, I won't be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 It all sounds great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 So useful he's started...lets see...how many times ? I havent written off my chances of knobbing the big-boobed red-head from Mad Men, but its not likely.... I would imagine you'd struggle to get even a w*nk from Dot Cotton. Lower your expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 What's the weather like there? Gloomy? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 I would imagine you'd struggle to get even a w*nk from Dot Cotton. Lower your expectations. I suspect he uses the DIY version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 Any rumours as to why Mr Williams didn't get the job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 What does a CEO do, compared to a Chairman? A CEO manages the day to day activities of a company, a chairman overseas and regulates the way the company is managed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 If Juve pick up the option, and we dont have to find another club. Looking at his track-record so far, I find that unlikely. Your comment about Gashy is just funny. No he's right. Good player, if lallana & jay rod hadn't been in such good form he would be player. Looked effective every time I've seen him this season - before & after injury. Being kept out of side doesn't make him a waster any more than Cork being third choice. I think he would fetch decent price but prefer to keep him. Also greate to watch, have you ever seen him play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 When WBA have a shirt sponsorship deal worth of 5 times ours, something is seriously lacking. CB, could you let those of us ignorant of what went wrong, facts kind know, so that we don't blindly follow.... After I understand that our deal was done in the championship v WBAs prem deal, but we had an opportunity to have a new sponsor if they were prepared to buy out aap3s contract... Heard we were close, but could not get a final deal deal signed by deadline, as is quite common in business... So why did this occur... Please provide details and sources as it's an important point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 CB' date=' could you let those of us ignorant of what went wrong, facts kind know, so that we don't blindly follow.... After I understand that our deal was done in the championship v WBAs prem deal, but we had an opportunity to have a new sponsor if they were prepared to buy out aap3s contract... Heard we were close, but could not get a final deal deal signed by deadline, as is quite common in business... So why did this occur... Please provide details and sources as it's an important point.[/quote'] So to summarise. There was an opportunity to buy out AAP and bring in someone at PL payment rates - at least five times the money - but it was mishandled and not completed. Thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 CB' date=' could you let those of us ignorant of what went wrong, facts kind know, so that we don't blindly follow.... After I understand that our deal was done in the championship v WBAs prem deal, but we had an opportunity to have a new sponsor if they were prepared to buy out aap3s contract... Heard we were close, but could not get a final deal deal signed by deadline, as is quite common in business... So why did this occur... Please provide details and sources as it's an important point.[/quote'] Too add to buctotims post seeing as how we were 'shooting for the moon' and aiming for the premier league then the champions league when the deal was agreed, don't you think a CEO with the vision and drive you've often attributed to our glorious ex leader might have negotiated a couple of clauses in the deal whereby the value of it goes up not if but when we achieve our stated aims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 So to summarise. There was an opportunity to buy out AAP and bring in someone at PL payment rates - at least five times the money - but it was mishandled and not completed. Thanks for that. Was this like the host of world renowned brands we were assured were queuing up to sponsor us just before they AAP3 deal was announced, when cortese being the great guy he is gave the all the Spanish archer and opted for the biggest IT company in chilworth instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 Was this like the host of world renowned brands we were assured were queuing up to sponsor us just before they AAP3 deal was announced, when cortese being the great guy he is gave the all the Spanish archer and opted for the biggest IT company in chilworth instead? My favourite bit was when it was let known that global giants Mercedes were going to be sponsoring us. Turned out to be the local dealer giving a minibus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 A CEO manages the day to day activities of a company, a chairman overseas and regulates the way the company is managed. is he going to be telecommuting then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 You only have to look at our sponsorship deal to actually see where we are compared to the others we are supposed to overtake for Champions League glory, its as funny as it is sad and delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 You only have to look at our sponsorship deal to actually see where we are compared to the others we are supposed to overtake for Champions League glory, its as funny as it is sad and delusional. Not great according to this. http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2013/08/20/premier-league-shirt-sponsors-pour-record-166m-into-top-flight-bank-accounts-200801/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 Not great according to this. http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2013/08/20/premier-league-shirt-sponsors-pour-record-166m-into-top-flight-bank-accounts-200801/ Quite amazing that recently promoted teams have less substantial deals eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 On the surface it appears to be a pretty smalltime appointment but I'm quite happy to give them the benefit of the doubt and see how it goes. Katherina has done and said all of the right things so far so I'm willing to see how this goes too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 Quite amazing that recently promoted teams have less substantial deals eh? Newcastle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 Quite amazing that recently promoted teams have less substantial deals eh? Clearly the sponsors didn't buy into the brash champions league brags, this is reflected in the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 Not great according to this. http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2013/08/20/premier-league-shirt-sponsors-pour-record-166m-into-top-flight-bank-accounts-200801/ Not 5 times less than West Brom's though is it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 (edited) Not 5 times less than West Brom's though is it ? Five times less than Fulham, Aston Villa and Sunderland. One third of West Ham and Stoke. Not sure why anybody is arguing against this - its been obvious for ages we've under performed on the commercial side - both hospitality and sponsorship - and now the new Chairman has confirmed it is his most urgent priority. Edited 25 March, 2014 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 But we are massive and we spent so much money on players there must be a mistake, surely big business can see we are the real thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 can't believe sunderland rinsed the poor Africans for £20m. No wonder they're all running round barefoot, wasting all their dollars on dumb mackem football sponsorships Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 Newcastle? Promoted in 2010? How long have they been graced with the glory of Wonga? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 Five times less than Fulham, Aston Villa and Sunderland. One third of West Ham and Stoke. Not sure why anybody is arguing against this - its been obvious for ages we've under performed on the commercial side - both hospitality and sponsorship - and now the new Chairman has confirmed it is his most urgent priority. I'm not arguing, just thought I saw a reference to West Brom's shirt sponsorship bringing in 5 times the amount of ours. It's certainly an area we can do far,far better in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 Barry, do you think our next sponsorship deal will be better? Will we close the gap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 Are there rumours on sponsorship? Outside the top clubs, Saints are the most talked about right now, increasingly famous faces, International exposure and top players. Surely that's a big draw for sponsors. I'd prob hold off negotiations till after Rickie scores winning goal in world cup final from Lallana cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 I'd prob hold off negotiations till after Rickie scores winning goal in world cup final from Lallana cross. then we'll be getting 25p from Jake's Corner Chipie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 Barry, do you think our next sponsorship deal will be better? Will we close the gap? To whom though? Please tell me where you think we shall be on the scale? Next to Arsenal or more like West Ham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 Are there rumours on sponsorship? Outside the top clubs, Saints are the most talked about right now, increasingly famous faces, International exposure and top players. Surely that's a big draw for sponsors. You writing surely on the internet does not make it fact, more like hopeful speculation, lets just see shall we? Surely thats the wisest way to proceed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 How much is our kit sponsorship? Liverpools is £25 Million and United is £23 Millions, how much is ours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 To whom though? Please tell me where you think we shall be on the scale? Next to Arsenal or more like West Ham? You are the one being sarcastic about how 'big' we see ourselves as a club and how potential sponsors perceive our value. We are where we are and should aim to approve in ALL areas. Sponsorship? That's up to the new board. I am sure they will push for a good deal following a good season. You appear to take delight in our poor sponsorship deal. Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 (edited) You are the one being sarcastic about how 'big' we see ourselves as a club and how potential sponsors perceive our value. We are where we are and should aim to approve in ALL areas. Sponsorship? That's up to the new board. I am sure they will push for a good deal following a good season. You appear to take delight in our poor sponsorship deal. Why is that? I take huge delight not in our size but at the cherubs on here who believe we are worth (size, value) more than we are, something is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it? Obvious right? Edited 25 March, 2014 by Barry Sanchez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 I take huge delight not in our size but at the cherubs on here who believe we are worth (size, value) more than we are, something is only worht what someone is prepared to pay for it? Obvious right? So, regardless of where we are on the scale, we are worth much more now then when we signed the last shirt deal yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 So, regardless of where we are on the scale, we are worth much more now then when we signed the last shirt deal yes? One would imgaine yes, what is your opinion on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 One would imgaine yes hopeful speculation, lets just see shall we? Surely thats the wisest way to proceed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 One would imgaine yes, what is your opinion on it? I'm actually fairly interested to see how this one plays out. With RK stating the significance of improving our corporate revenue I think this could be a good indicator of how well the new board is working. What should we be aiming for? £8m/year? What do I think we'll get? £5m max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 hopeful speculation, lets just see shall we? Surely thats the wisest way to proceed? I wholeheartedly agree, lets wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 I'm actually fairly interested to see how this one plays out. With RK stating the significance of improving our corporate revenue I think this could be a good indicator of how well the new board is working. What should we be aiming for? £8m/year? What do I think we'll get? £5m max. Thats sponsorship brand, what about the kit sponsorship? Thats where the money is and also a true reflection of where we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2232721/Liverpool-expect-improve-shirt-sponsorship-deal.html This when they were doing crap I will add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 Thats sponsorship brand, what about the kit sponsorship? Thats where the money is and also a true reflection of where we are. The figures in that list are for shirt sponsorship no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 I'm actually fairly interested to see how this one plays out. With RK stating the significance of improving our corporate revenue I think this could be a good indicator of how well the new board is working. What should we be aiming for? £8m/year? What do I think we'll get? £5m max. £5m seems achievable, maybe more linked to over performance. Depends to some extent how much we give away - eg just a shirt sponsor or throw in stadium naming, free boxes etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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