Chewy Posted 24 March, 2014 Share Posted 24 March, 2014 Because we've squandered our best chance since Hoddle quit for a much higher finish. But hoddle never got us to finish 8th? Sorry, most confused by the relevance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 24 March, 2014 Share Posted 24 March, 2014 Games consist of 2 halves of 45mins each. Over the 90mins we were the second-best. Yes but you didn't see the first half hour. You couldn't have, you only started contributing to the match thread once we conceded the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 24 March, 2014 Share Posted 24 March, 2014 Nothing to consider. He is doing a great job and has improved some of our players immeasurably. If he goes at the end of the season it will be our loss and anyone who can't see that IMO is clueless. We are where we deserve to be. We dont have players as good as those above us. Saint Charlie, thanks for these comments; they fit my ideas too. MP has done a great job with a squad which is lacking in depth. If he wants to stay and isn't given the chance I'd be astonished a nd seriously ****ed off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 24 March, 2014 Share Posted 24 March, 2014 We are where we deserve to be. We dont have players as good as those above us. Yet those above us want our players? Lovren (man u) wanyama (man c) shaw (everyone) chambers (arsenal) gallagher (chelsea) lallana (man u) mopo (spurs) morgan (arsenal) jay rod (liverpool) ramirez (inter milan and juventus) reed (man u) isgrove (man u) clyne (arsenal) Osvaldo (Juventus) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 24 March, 2014 Share Posted 24 March, 2014 But hoddle never got us to finish 8th? Sorry, most confused by the relevance. Yes but you didn't see the first half hour. You have a very odd way of looking at things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 24 March, 2014 Share Posted 24 March, 2014 Despite his weak points - essentially not being able to react tactically too well to game-changing moments - I'd be very disappointed if we lost him. And would kick the cat if i had one if he went to the odious north London yobbos at Tottenham 'we steal everything including club songs' Hotspur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 24 March, 2014 Share Posted 24 March, 2014 Games consist of 2 halves of 45mins each. Over the 90mins we were the second-best. Not sure about that. A draw would have been as much as both teams deserved. But regardless of that, when you consider Pochettino's body of work after 14 months in the job, is there any way that you could think he hasn't been a great Manager for us thus far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 24 March, 2014 Share Posted 24 March, 2014 Saint Charlie, thanks for these comments; they fit my ideas too. MP has done a great job with a squad which is lacking in depth. If he wants to stay and isn't given the chance I'd be astonished a nd seriously ****ed off Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 24 March, 2014 Share Posted 24 March, 2014 You have a very odd way of looking at things. Says the pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 24 March, 2014 Share Posted 24 March, 2014 It is vital that he stays. I'm slightly concerned by his pre and post match comments though, which often came across like a public interview for the Tottenham position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 24 March, 2014 Share Posted 24 March, 2014 I'm a bit ambivalent about him at this stage of the season, a little disappointed that we aren't already one or two positions higher after such a fine start to the season. OK, injuries to the likes of Lovren and Wanyama didn't help, but last season we beat the likes of Man City, Chelsea and Liverpool, but suffered defeats against one or two of the lower teams. Whereas we have performed better against those lower teams, we have not been anywhere near as convincing against the top 10 teams. Pochettino had an obligation to have strengthened us since the close of last season and the lack of strength in depth that has hindered us is a shortcoming. Yes, Osvaldo was a disappointment and could have made a difference had he performed to expectations, but ultimately Pochettino thought he could get him to behave himself and couldn't, therefore his error of judgement. I question his motivational powers and his seeming lack of an alternative strategy to play teams with different strengths by varying our team selection to counter them. The Spurs match was the second in a row where having obtained a comfortable lead, we fell to pieces in the second half. Our play is too one dimensional and the more canny managers of the top teams and even those like Allardyce long ago sussed out how to play us and neutralise our high pressing game. Even rookies like Sherwood had got it figured out and changed their tactics to win the second half, closing down our players in midfield to dry up our supply to the front and pressing us back high up the pitch themseves. And look at the number of goals we have conceded to longer range strikes from outside of our box, whereas when was the last time we scored a goal like that? It is almost as if our players lack the confidence to have a go, preferring rather to try and pass the ball into the net. And look at the number of times we have put pressure onto ourselves by faffing about playing out from the back when, when it became clear that we were being closed down and inviting an error which would punish us. Excuses are made to cover this sort of error; the players are young and need to learn from their experiences. Really? Most of the academy players have been here since they were eight and the team comprises professionals who should take on board the consequences of different actions by being coached about them, or seeing for themselves by studying videos, rather than having to learn by making those mistakes themselves. We see us concede goals on Match of the Day where the pundits show 6 different opportunities to have cleared the danger, hoofing upfield, passing early to a collegue, putting the ball out for a throw, or even a corner kick and taking none of them, the player is robbed and a goal scored. If Pochettino left, I would be disappointed, as I would like to see how he progresses with new signings in the Summer and it would be interesting to see how long it takes to conduct post match interviews in English. But as has already been pointed out, we replaced Pardew and Adkins when there were dire forecasts of how their successors would fare and improved both times. I don't believe for one minute that Pochettino is the best that we could possibly have at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 March, 2014 Share Posted 24 March, 2014 I like Mauricio's style and hope that he decides to stay on but I don't want to see him having to do it with the weak squad that we have now. It will just go tits up eventually and that would be a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 March, 2014 Share Posted 24 March, 2014 Yet those above us want our players? Lovren (man u) wanyama (man c) shaw (everyone) chambers (arsenal) gallagher (chelsea) lallana (man u) mopo (spurs) morgan (arsenal) jay rod (liverpool) ramirez (inter milan and juventus) reed (man u) isgrove (man u) clyne (arsenal) Osvaldo (Juventus) Not won a game with Hooiveld playing. Gazzaniga not up to it. Ditto Davis.Don't see you linking them with anyone. We have some superb players, but the sum of the squad isnt better than Spurs, Utd, Everton etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 24 March, 2014 Share Posted 24 March, 2014 Is anyone off here going to the Guillem Balague event in Southampton in a couple of weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 24 March, 2014 Share Posted 24 March, 2014 Is anyone off here going to the Guillem Balague event in Southampton in a couple of weeks? First I've heard. What is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 24 March, 2014 Share Posted 24 March, 2014 I'd keep him tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 24 March, 2014 Share Posted 24 March, 2014 Is anyone off here going to the Guillem Balague event in Southampton in a couple of weeks? Heard him mention it on his twitter a few times. Would be good I think. Clearly knows a lot about Poch too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 24 March, 2014 Share Posted 24 March, 2014 First I've heard. What is it? http://www.guillembalague.com/en/events/39-an-evening-with-guillem-balague#.UzCdIcZAFE9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 24 March, 2014 Share Posted 24 March, 2014 http://m.seetickets.com/event/an-evening-with-guillem-balague/waterstones/771053 What's Waterstone's like as a venue? Is it loads of seats or just standing areas?! Tempted to pop down for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 24 March, 2014 Share Posted 24 March, 2014 http://www.guillembalague.com/en/events/39-an-evening-with-guillem-balague#.UzCdIcZAFE9 Ta. £10 eh, do you get the book thrown in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 24 March, 2014 Share Posted 24 March, 2014 Ta. £10 eh, do you get the book thrown in? No idea. Assume he may touch on a fair bit of Saints/MP related stuff as I think he knows him fairly well and I assume he's chosen Southampton for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 24 March, 2014 Share Posted 24 March, 2014 Nothing to consider. He is doing a great job and has improved some of our players immeasurably. If he goes at the end of the season it will be our loss and anyone who can't see that IMO is clueless. We are where we deserve to be. We dont have players as good as those above us. We have a first eleven as good as those above us but not a squad that is our main downfall this season and on Sunday, without two midfield powerhouses we looked a little weak and lost in midfield, we also played our best centre when clearly not match fit as the options below are not good enough. we need another 3 or 4 players that are Lovren, Wanyama level, then we will see more games out and win more often with a few injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 24 March, 2014 Share Posted 24 March, 2014 I cant be bothered to read the whole thread, this might have been said, but hope MP stays for a long time. He might have made some mistakes etc, but we have changed managers to often the last few years. With MP we have a good young manager and with a manager in charge for a while, he can build a strong squad. The players also seem to like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 @alex_crook: Poch now linked with Marseille in French press. Somebody is working overtime to get his name out there #saintsfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 @alex_crook: Poch now linked with Marseille in French press. Somebody is working overtime to get his name out there #saintsfc Poch's agent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 Poch's agent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 There are a lot of clubs he is being linked with. It definitely feels like someone is doing this on purpose - just need to work out who now and why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 @alex_crook: Poch now linked with Marseille in French press. Somebody is working overtime to get his name out there #saintsfc tbh I told you all that 2 weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 25 March, 2014 Share Posted 25 March, 2014 We have a club and a team in harmony so why do we need to change a winning formula ? Would you rather have moyes instead if mp? The only thing that is not in harmony are the moaners and negative minority on the SWF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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