Window Cleaner Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 I don't think you were supposed to: a) remember this b) believe this I would be shocked if we spent more than 50% of the money earned through sales. What not believe our star ITK... you jest sire.
Batman Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 Its a combination of factors... a big pay rise, playing for one of the biggest clubs in World football and Champions League football. Really not sure why you keep using it time after time as a stick to beat Saints with. How come you used to be quite convinced we could challenge for champions league If all it took was for a glory club to show interest to lose players, how on earth did you think we could do it?
Smirking_Saint Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 Its a combination of factors... a big pay rise, playing for one of the biggest clubs in World football and Champions League football. Really not sure why you keep using it time after time as a stick to beat Saints with. Its not a stick to bash saints with you pleb, though Im not entirely sure you'll ever get it, regardless of anything that ever happens your outlook is cringingly optimistic towards the saints regardless if it changes your overall opinion. It was only a few months ago you were banging the drum over and over again about Saints being the kings of europe and the 100k seater superdome You seriously are the ying to alpines yang
Matthew Le God Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 How come you used to be quite convinced we could challenge for champions league If all it took was for a glory club to show interest to lose players, how on earth did you think we could do it? Did I? I don't remember being "convinced", I think you are twisting my words somewhat out of context.
UpweySaint Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 I won't be smug at all. Looking on the bright side, maybe it is best to hold on to our money, take a chance. If we get relegated buy good quality young players in the Championship, possibly League 1 and bring through academy players, and in two or three seasons go up again. Have a couple of good premier years, sell again, take a chance on relegation and if necessary start the process again ! We could find our niche in the football world as well as being wealthy and avoiding debt. Yawn. Bore off.
Matthew Le God Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 Its not a stick to bash saints with you pleb, though Im not entirely sure you'll ever get it, regardless of anything that ever happens your outlook is cringingly optimistic towards the saints regardless if it changes your overall opinion. It was only a few months ago you were banging the drum over and over again about Saints being the kings of europe and the 100k seater superdome You seriously are the ying to alpines yang When you claim I said things like this it hard to have a discussion with you. Like with Batman you are twisting, taking out of context and exgarerating what I've previously said and seemingly convinced yourselves I actually said it like you now claim.
Dalek2003 Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 Yawn. Bore off. Say what you like, read my post again, because that is the scenario I see us facing. So make the most of it and stop being a plastic.
Batman Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 Did I? I don't remember being "convinced", I think you are twisting my words somewhat out of context. You used to try and convince us that it possible. Even posting pictures of a fantasy stadium and updates on the training ground
Bearsy Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 Did I? I don't remember being "convinced", I think you are twisting my words somewhat out of context. He's using it as a stick to beat you with! Beware smirkings bearing sticks! Are you ok with selling every bro that wants to go, MLG? Where would you draw the line? Just the 3 first teamers like now or are you ok with a couple more?
shirleysfc Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 What not believe our star ITK... you jest sire. Has Guan ****ed your missus or something? You're starting to sound bitter.
Goatboy Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 Say what you like, read my post again, because that is the scenario I see us facing. So make the most of it and stop being a plastic. Maybe we should have a Dalek thread where you can say the same things as last season (and the one before) over and over again. It will save spamming up every other thread with your yo-yo/17th/18th/relegation/Hoddle posts. Just an idea.
Window Cleaner Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 He's using it as a stick to beat you with! Beware smirkings bearing sticks! Are you ok with selling every bro that wants to go, MLG? Where would you draw the line? Just the 3 first teamers like now or are you ok with a couple more? It's not 3 though, it's 5,6,7 the exact number remains to be seen.
Smirking_Saint Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 When you claim I said things like this it hard to have a discussion with you. Like with Batman you are twisting, taking out of context and exgarerating what I've previously said and seemingly convinced yourselves I actually said it like you now claim. MLG its pretty hypocritical saying to anyone else on this forum they are hard to have a discussion with, you are genuinely relentless. As per the threads, everyone knows they happened
Killers Knee Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 What not believe our star ITK... you jest sire. I think that's a rehash of a quote from Les saying money from player sales will be reinvested in the squad.
Goatboy Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 He's using it as a stick to beat you with! Beware smirkings bearing sticks! Are you ok with selling every bro that wants to go, MLG? Where would you draw the line? Just the 3 first teamers like now or are you ok with a couple more? Get rid of em all. It's like real life FM14!
Heisenberg Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 When players we want to keep get transfers to Stoke, Hull and Villa it's time to worry. Whilst they are moving to genuine top sides you can't grumble too much.
Matthew Le God Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 You used to try and convince us that it possible. Even posting pictures of a fantasy stadium and updates on the training ground MLG its pretty hypocritical saying to anyone else on this forum they are hard to have a discussion with, you are genuinely relentless. As per the threads, everyone knows they happened Posting pictures of commissioned stadium design and training ground updates is not in itself evidence of me being "convinced" we could challenge for the Champions League. You are jumping to the conclusions you want there to be from that. As I said before... twisting, taking out of context and exaggerating.
Smirking_Saint Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 When players we want to keep get transfers to Stoke, Hull and Villa it's time to worry. Whilst they are moving to genuine top sides you can't grumble too much. You can when its half the first team
Bearsy Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 It's not 3 though, it's 5,6,7 the exact number remains to be seen. 1 per window would be my policy. Shaw would have won the lucky ticket out of Southampton this summer, cos that seems the best deal & he is, after all, only a left back. Every other bro would have to suck it, if I was Chairman!
Matthew Le God Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 When players we want to keep get transfers to Stoke, Hull and Villa it's time to worry. Whilst they are moving to genuine top sides you can't grumble too much. Exactly, but only if the club recruits their replacements well and invests the money back into the team. Heisenberg >>> Glasgow_Saint
Smirking_Saint Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 Posting pictures of commissioned stadium design and training ground updates is not in itself evidence of me being "convinced" we could challenge for the Champions League. You are jumping to the conclusions you want there to be from that. As I said before... twisting, taking out of context and exaggerating. I remember the comparisons between us, Everton, Spurs etc
sadoldgit Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 I didn't say I think what the board is doing is correct. I think they're f#cking sh#te Stop sitting on the fence and tell us what you really think Seriously, with "fans" like you if I were KL I'd sell up and run!
Batman Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 We all know your stance last year when you were very pro saints getting into the top 4. When others times it down you were not Now, all it needed was a glory club to click their fingers and it's over. Why wasn't that the case with you 12 months or so ago. Same with WES and his man on the moon tripe
Goatboy Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 Exactly, but only if the club recruits their replacements well and invests the money back into the team. Heisenberg >>> Glasgow_Saint Agree:scared:
Batman Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 I remember the comparisons between us, Everton, Spurs etc Everton was deffo a favourite of his. We had a better squad and attendances in why we can challenge top 4 if they can
View From The Top Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 When players we want to keep get transfers to Stoke, Hull and Villa it's time to worry. Whilst they are moving to genuine top sides you can't grumble too much. Totally.
Brave Sir Robin Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 I would do the quoting malarkey but it's fiddly on my phone, so in reference to the above: +1 to what Barcelona said. In reply to those saying he's got it wrong and KL has reversed her father's ambitions for the club, I can clearly remember reading an interview with ML & NC not long after promotion to the Championship, in which they were asked about long term ambitions. ML replied he wanted the club to establish itself in mid table premier league and be self sustainable there, NC said he wanted to get them to the Champions League, then they both laughed and ML said something along the lines of "well who knows?! But we can discuss that after we get to the premier league!". So as I see it, KL is absolutely carrying on her father's work where he left off. NC was always going to leave once we reached the brink of Europe and he asked for enough funding to challenge the top four rather than rest on our laurels. It doesn't mean we're going to be relegated. It just means we'll continue to hover around mid table for years, with an effective conveyor belt of good players coming through our academy, playing for a year or two and helping us maintain our position before leaving for a profit to larger clubs. If anything has gone wrong, it's that the board weren't able or weren't sure whether to reign in NC when he effectively mislead potential signings about the clubs ambitions. Thing is, if he hadn't, we wouldn't have got them, so that's a tricky one... In the meantime, on paper at least, the board are doing a good job of the damage limitation of NC's departure fallout, with a good manager and departing players replaced with equally skilled newcomers, a state of the art training ground and a return to stripes. I'm confident we'll have a couple more decent signings soon, and that one or two academy graduates will make the step up and impress, and that we'll finish mid table, which I and most other Saints fans will be very happy with.
Matthew Le God Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 Everton was deffo a favourite of his. We had a better squad and attendances in why we can challenge top 4 if they can Utter nonsense, I've never said that. You've made it up.
Goatboy Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 I would do the quoting malarkey but it's fiddly on my phone, so in reference to the above: +1 to what Barcelona said. In reply to those saying he's got it wrong and KL has reversed her father's ambitions for the club, I can clearly remember reading an interview with ML & NC not long after promotion to the Championship, in which they were asked about long term ambitions. ML replied he wanted the club to establish itself in mid table premier league and be self sustainable there, NC said he wanted to get them to the Champions League, then they both laughed and ML said something along the lines of "well who knows?! But we can discuss that after we get to the premier league!". So as I see it, KL is absolutely carrying on her father's work where he left off. NC was always going to leave once we reached the brink of Europe and he asked for enough funding to challenge the top four rather than rest on our laurels. It doesn't mean we're going to be relegated. It just means we'll continue to hover around mid table for years, with an effective conveyor belt of good players coming through our academy, playing for a year or two and helping us maintain our position before leaving for a profit to larger clubs. If anything has gone wrong, it's that the board weren't able or weren't sure whether to reign in NC when he effectively mislead potential signings about the clubs ambitions. Thing is, if he hadn't, we wouldn't have got them, so that's a tricky one... In the meantime, on paper at least, the board are doing a good job of the damage limitation of NC's departure fallout, with a good manager and departing players replaced with equally skilled newcomers, a state of the art training ground and a return to stripes. I'm confident we'll have a couple more decent signings soon, and that one or two academy graduates will make the step up and impress, and that we'll finish mid table, which I and most other Saints fans will be very happy with. Good post
latter day saint Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 Ah, i see the usual tactic of bringing up past arguements against posters to belittle them rather than stick to actual facts is still popular
goneawol Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 Bentancur also adjudicates on Gaston Ramirez. "The coach wants to evaluate, there are no particular news. If the coach does not want it, we can talk about a return to Italy. There are no more Cortese and Pochettino. we'll see what the coach thinks." http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/serie-a/esclusiva-tmw-bentancur-palermo-hernandez-via-con-offerta-modena-su-lores-576137
shurlock Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 (edited) I would do the quoting malarkey but it's fiddly on my phone, so in reference to the above: +1 to what Barcelona said. In reply to those saying he's got it wrong and KL has reversed her father's ambitions for the club, I can clearly remember reading an interview with ML & NC not long after promotion to the Championship, in which they were asked about long term ambitions. ML replied he wanted the club to establish itself in mid table premier league and be self sustainable there, NC said he wanted to get them to the Champions League, then they both laughed and ML said something along the lines of "well who knows?! But we can discuss that after we get to the premier league!". So as I see it, KL is absolutely carrying on her father's work where he left off. NC was always going to leave once we reached the brink of Europe and he asked for enough funding to challenge the top four rather than rest on our laurels. It doesn't mean we're going to be relegated. It just means we'll continue to hover around mid table for years, with an effective conveyor belt of good players coming through our academy, playing for a year or two and helping us maintain our position before leaving for a profit to larger clubs. If anything has gone wrong, it's that the board weren't able or weren't sure whether to reign in NC when he effectively mislead potential signings about the clubs ambitions. Thing is, if he hadn't, we wouldn't have got them, so that's a tricky one... In the meantime, on paper at least, the board are doing a good job of the damage limitation of NC's departure fallout, with a good manager and departing players replaced with equally skilled newcomers, a state of the art training ground and a return to stripes. I'm confident we'll have a couple more decent signings soon, and that one or two academy graduates will make the step up and impress, and that we'll finish mid table, which I and most other Saints fans will be very happy with. Er...ML passed away one season before we got promoted to the championship. Apologies for not reading beyond that point. Edited 21 July, 2014 by shurlock
Wiggles31 Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 Bentancur also adjudicates on Gaston Ramirez. "The coach wants to evaluate, there are no particular news. If the coach does not want it, we can talk about a return to Italy. There are no more Cortese and Pochettino. we'll see what the coach thinks." http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/serie-a/esclusiva-tmw-bentancur-palermo-hernandez-via-con-offerta-modena-su-lores-576137 This is a thread for pointless arguments about nothing not actual transfer news.
derry Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 Lovren - No bids apart from one over three weeks ago which was nowhere near enough, turned down and haven't been in contact since, (sky from Swindon)
Wiggles31 Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 Seriously though can we stick to the topic of 'transfer rumours' and not all this debate about the board etc. Kills me when I see 2-3 new pages and I'm expecting Ronaldo is being linked then its just a load of drivel.
Brave Sir Robin Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 Er...ML passed away one season before we got promoted to the championship. Apologies for not reading beyond that point. ok, so maybe it was before that, but I remember the interview, and I'm sure others will too
Saintletiss Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 This! Start another thread for pointless he said / she said, can we use one for transfer rumours?? Wading through 3 pages of bilge looking for an update with a potential signing is taking forever on here....
Gordon Mockles Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 I don't think Pelle looks anything special but he's still clearly an upgrade on Lambert. Lamberts finished, I thought he was complete garbage last season. Tadic is admittedly probably a fairly big step down from Lallana of last season, but Ramirez is a better player then Lallana when he gets a run in the side Wow! What a myopic, harsh, discourteous & deluded view you have on Lambert, a true Saints legend. I'd hate to see how you spoke on your enemies. Lambert was garbage, finished. You would think he scored no goals or had why assists in your dystopian world. That's why Liverpool bought him eh? Tadic a step down? Lallana is not that special & some forget his p*ss weak shot & lack of power mixed with questionable stamina to last 90+ mins. Looking at Tadic stats, I was hoping he may be a very shrewd bit of business & a cheaper upgrade but who knows how he will adapt but I am quietly confident. Clearly not a view you share but other opinions are clearly avsilable. You don't think Pelle looks anything special?! Have you seen him in many competitive games then? Wow! Giving him a chance then although, according to your logic system, he's an apparent upgrade on our previous, "garbage" consecutive top scorer, 100% penalty taking record striker with a strong free kick, powerful shot, great assist record & hold up play, strong as an Ox in the box & good in the air who was instrumental in 3 promotions. I don't know how Koeman will manage to attract the calibre of player you fawn for &, if he did, would you even notice them playing well?! :/
Goatboy Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 You are making the mistake of thinking that PP knows anything whatsoever about football.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 Lallana is not that special & some forget his p*ss weak shot & lack of power [video=youtube_share;K2bPwKckljE]
Brave Sir Robin Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 BBC and my "fotmob audio news" android app (!) reporting we've softened our stance with Liverpool, and a move for Lovren is close. Koeman quoted as saying he'd like Vlaar to replace him, but he will be expensive right now. Fingers crossed both happen as far as I'm concerned!
Gordon Mockles Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 I don't think Pelle looks anything special but he's still clearly an upgrade on Lambert. Lamberts finished, I thought he was complete garbage last season. Tadic is admittedly probably a fairly big step down from Lallana of last season, but Ramirez is a better player then Lallana when he gets a run in the side Wow! What a myopic, harsh, discourteous & deluded view you have on Lambert, a true Saints legend. I'd hate to see how you spoke on your enemies. "Lambert was garbage, finished?!" You would think he scored no goals or had any assists in your dystopian world. That's why Liverpool bought him eh? Tadic a step down? What helped shape this sweeping assumption? Lallana is not that special & some forget his p*ss weak shot & lack of power mixed with questionable stamina to last 90+ mins. Looking at Tadic stats, I was hoping he may be a very shrewd bit of business & a cheaper upgrade but who knows how he will adapt but I am quietly confident. Dutch friends speak very highly of him indeed. First based fan opinion rather than media or agent agenda drivel. Clearly not a view you share but other opinions are clearly available. You don't think Pelle looks anything special?! Have you seen him in many competitive games then? Wow! Giving him a chance then although, according to your logic system, he's an apparent upgrade on our previous, "garbage" consecutive top scorer, 100% penalty taking record striker with a strong free kick, powerful shot, great assist record & hold up play, strong as an Ox in the box & good in the air who was instrumental in 3 promotions. I don't know how Koeman will manage to attract the calibre of player you fawn for &, if he did, would you even notice them playing well?! :/
westmidlandsaint Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 Wow logged on and thought that's a few new pages since lunch time there must be rumours of in comings ......... But no just the same old posters having the same old arguments. I suppose it is a forum maybe you could start a 'I want an argument thread' so those logging in on to see if there is any transfer news don't have to scroll through so much crap
scotty Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 Wow! What a myopic, harsh, discourteous & deluded view you have on Lambert, a true Saints legend. I'd hate to see how you spoke on your enemies. "Lambert was garbage, finished?!" You would think he scored no goals or had any assists in your dystopian world. That's why Liverpool bought him eh? Tadic a step down? What helped shape this sweeping assumption? Lallana is not that special & some forget his p*ss weak shot & lack of power mixed with questionable stamina to last 90+ mins. Looking at Tadic stats, I was hoping he may be a very shrewd bit of business & a cheaper upgrade but who knows how he will adapt but I am quietly confident. Dutch friends speak very highly of him indeed. First based fan opinion rather than media or agent agenda drivel. Clearly not a view you share but other opinions are clearly available. You don't think Pelle looks anything special?! Have you seen him in many competitive games then? Wow! Giving him a chance then although, according to your logic system, he's an apparent upgrade on our previous, "garbage" consecutive top scorer, 100% penalty taking record striker with a strong free kick, powerful shot, great assist record & hold up play, strong as an Ox in the box & good in the air who was instrumental in 3 promotions. I don't know how Koeman will manage to attract the calibre of player you fawn for &, if he did, would you even notice them playing well?! :/ Dont take pastor patron too seriously, he usually just trolls for bites.
CB Saint Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 See that nothing has changed today, neither in terms of our team or the hysteria on here.
View From The Top Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 Dont take pastor patron too seriously, he usually just trolls for bites. He was always better at it as Dune.
Toadhall Saint Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 He was always better at it as Dune. Penny has just dropped. Cheers
derry Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 BBC and my "fotmob audio news" android app (!) reporting we've softened our stance with Liverpool, and a move for Lovren is close. Koeman quoted as saying he'd like Vlaar to replace him, but he will be expensive right now. Fingers crossed both happen as far as I'm concerned! Sky, BBC South, Saints and Liverpool confirm tonight one bid turned down over three weeks ago and NO contact since.
scotty Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 He was always better at it as Dune. Not sure about that myself, but who can tell.
Pastor Patrón Posted 21 July, 2014 Posted 21 July, 2014 if I were KL I'd sell up and run! Don't you mean waddle? I don't think KL will be running anywhere anytime soon.
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