Goatboy Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 None. Although we let Butterfield go on a free. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Thanks. No worries. MLG should be able to provide us with the date. Always better to get the sales done early on IMO like we have (Lovren aside). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 None. Although we let Butterfield go on a free. Does that balance out Guly leaving even. All I know is that since the new team have been in place we have sold or let go Fox,Guly,Shaw,Lambert and Lallana, Osvaldo is nowhere to be seen, plus we have our best striker from last season on long term injury and we've signed 2 unknowns from Holland. They might prove to be great players for us but right now we're short at least one left back, probably 2 and have not strengthened the squad in any other position. We have a bit less than a month before we turn out at Anfield so time is now of the essence because frankly we are seriously short of a starting XI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Does that balance out Guly leaving even. All I know is that since the new team have been in place we have sold or let go Fox,Guly,Shaw,Lambert and Lallana, Osvaldo is nowhere to be seen, plus we have our best striker from last season on long term injury and we've signed 2 unknowns from Holland. They might prove to be great players for us but right now we're short at least one left back, probably 2 and have not strengthened the squad in any other position. We have a bit less than a month before we turn out at Anfield so time is now of the essence because frankly we are seriously short of a starting XI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 not really panicking...just stating some facts we are in for a really tough season, IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 (edited) Agree. Still need a GK, CB (2 if Lovren goes), LB, Winger, Striker. Probably won't have them all for the first game, but some more important than others. CB and LB would be priorities for me. Good news is we still have loads of the cash Reed said we would spend. Could buy the 6 without evening putting any of our original budget towards it, which was possibly the plan. Plenty of teams have signed 4 or 5 players and not lost anyone of significance so we are behind the pace so far. Edited 17 July, 2014 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 not really panicking...just stating some facts we are in for a really tough season, IMO IMO we're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 not really panicking...just stating some facts we are in for a really tough season, IMO You should know by now DD that facts are unacceptable on this forum if they point out anything untoward. As John Major said, it's no point good waving your arms about and living in Dumbdisneyland, these are the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 What was Guans panda all about? Was he misinformed? Nope, he will be the new left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 not really panicking...just stating some facts we are in for a really tough season, IMO I don't see being 2 players off (Shaw & Jrod) as "seriously short of a starting XI". That does smack of hyperbole to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 I don't see being 2 players off (Shaw & Jrod) as "seriously short of a starting XI". That does smack of hyperbole to me. if we sign no one else, we will struggle like fuk next season the premier league is relentless and we will not have he squad to deal with it thankfully, I can see us signing more players, just feel way too many ins/outs of a very successful team will harm us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 if we sign no one else, we are struggle like fuk next season Errrm ok. I don't see that being that likely. We wouldn't have a good season in that scenario, but I don't think we'd go down (on the assumption no one else leaves). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 "seriously short of a starting XI" Boruc, Chambers, Lovren, Fonte, Targett Wanyama, Scneiderlin, Tadic, Ward-Prowse, Ramirez Pelle bench: Kelvin, Yoshi, Gallagher, Cork, McQueen etc One man's fact is another man's left bollock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 "seriously short of a starting XI" Boruc, Chambers, Lovren, Fonte, Targett Wanyama, Scneiderlin, Tadic, Ward-Prowse, Ramirez Pelle bench: Kelvin, Yoshi, Gallagher, Cork, McQueen etc One man's fact is another man's left bollock. Windows in being excessively downbeat shocker. As the squad stands though, I'd probably have Clyne in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 "seriously short of a starting XI" Boruc, Chambers, Lovren, Fonte, Targett Wanyama, Scneiderlin, Tadic, Ward-Prowse, Ramirez Pelle bench: Kelvin, Yoshi, Gallagher, Cork, McQueen etc One man's fact is another man's left bollock. Good team that, although Davis in for JWP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 "seriously short of a starting XI" Boruc, Chambers, Lovren, Fonte, Targett Wanyama, Scneiderlin, Tadic, Ward-Prowse, Ramirez Pelle bench: Kelvin, Yoshi, Gallagher, Cork, McQueen etc One man's fact is another man's left bollock. Depends if you believe that Targett is good enough yet for the PL; I personally don't.Schneiderlin will be sold so will Lovren.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Good team that, although Davis in for JWP oops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Agree, would be a massive blow to lose cork IMO. I rate Jack Cork and he was brilliant for us last season when Big Vic got injured and I think he is a quality holding midfielder. However I would not offer Jack an extension as he is not a starter for the team when all are fit (Big Vic/Morgan) and I feel both Harry Reed and JWP can fill his role in the squad and more importantly could score goals, something that Jack is never going to do. If we weren't massive proponents of youth and giving them opportunity I would say sign him up but I feel that having Jack as a squad player if just depriving a younger player of that chance, a younger player who is also more inclined to bide his time on the bench, something Jack himself stated was frustrating in the first few months of the season. Jack deserves to play every week and would be an excellent player for someone like Palace/Villa/WBA etc etc but I can imagine him becoming more and more frustrated as the season progresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 "seriously short of a starting XI" Boruc, Chambers, Lovren, Fonte, Targett Wanyama, Scneiderlin, Tadic, Ward-Prowse, Ramirez Pelle bench: Kelvin, Yoshi, Gallagher, Cork, McQueen etc One man's fact is another man's left bollock. targett...why is it assumed he is good enough? why didnt he get minutes last season if he was good enough? morgan wants out tadic we have no idea if he will flourish or flop, same for pelle JWP was a squad player last season and failed to impose himself on any game of note ramirez, see above kelvin...? sweet god gallagher being the back up striker is madness and mcqueen? see target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Depends if you believe that Targett is good enough yet for the PL; I personally don't. You have never, not once, seen him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Depends if you believe that Targett is good enough yet for the PL; I personally don't.Schneiderlin will be sold so will Lovren.. So, is it a FACT that we are "seriously short of a starting XI" or are you being just a tad melodramatic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Yes it is irrelevant about what players cost, but for a club that has massive funds have at 3 players gone and perhaps more, that already needed players in some crucial positions it does seem a little complacent not to have been very active. I know we dont need to rush in 'buy in haste and repent at leisure' and all that but it seems clear to the outsider that we would have known players were leaving and so our team of experts should have lined up new players. You seem content with the situation, i respect that, but excuse me if Iam suspicious/underhelmed by the new boards actions. By all means be underwhelmed if you're impatient for news of signings to replace players departed/yet to depart/those not good enough. It's not unnatural for fans to be impatient, to be nervous of the ambitions of the owner, unsure of the abilities of a new foreign manager to be successful in the Premier League, indeed, unsure of the ability of new players to play in this division when they previously played in what was deemed to be at an inferior level. I'm not content with things yet, or complacent, I doubt that many are. Those are the wrong words. The correct word is patient; happy to wait and see how it all pans out, optimistic that the club has everything in hand, that they will spend that money raised by the sale of those players on quality replacements. There is still time to buy those players before the start of the season and these things can't be rushed. Even if we had anticipated the departures of those players, there are other factors to take into consideration. We are urged to not sell players until we have in place replacement players, and yet presumably we don't expect the selling club to do the same. If they wait until they have replacements signed up before they sell, then logically it means delays, doesn't it? The World Cup has been a fly in the ointment. Some of the players from the latter stages aren't even back at their clubs yet. If we want the better players that you would wish us to sign, then we have to wait and see whether the glory clubs are after them too. If so, our chances of signing them are diminished. But they can only sign so many players for their squads and we are the next level down. As has been hinted, we have players on our radar that may have escaped the attention of other clubs. It is all in the lap of the Gods. But it is still far too early to make rash judgements about the board and their intentions or ambitions. Their actions in replacing Pochettino with Koeman and in turn the level of player he has brought in, is suggestive of ambition, of investment in quality to bring us success, a continuation of the upwards trajectory of our progress. If you can identify anything that you deem to be indicative of a lack of ambition so far, then tell us what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 You have never, not once, seen him play. that is because, he hasnt played really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 You have never, not once, seen him play. I did in fact seee him in an Unders International earlier this summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 that is because, he hasnt played really Exactly. Ive never seen him either. Seems a bit of a gamble to me if true, but then people thought that about Shaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Exactly. Ive never seen him either. Seems a bit of a gamble to me if true, but then people thought that about Shaw. shaw had minutes that season. he never went from nowhere to starting granted he had fox ahead of him. but he was an experienced pro, crap but experienced. I would be amazed if we dont get another in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Exactly. Ive never seen him either. Seems a bit of a gamble to me if true, but then people thought that about Shaw. Exept that with Shaw we still had Fox, not a lot I know but better than diddly squat which is where we are right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Exept that with Shaw we still had Fox, not a lot I know but better than diddly squat which is where we are right now. If only we had, I dunno, like a month to sign a LB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 No idea whats in his mind, obviously, but he is entering the last year of his contract so unless thats resolved very soon presumably he'll be leaving. When you move in the last year of your contract the club gets a lower fee but the player usually gets bigger wages. We probably don't want to meet his wage demands if they are significantly higher than what we have already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Monkey Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 SSN: Palace agree deals for frazer Campbell and gylfi sigurdsson. I'd have loved Sigurdsson here. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokingFun Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 not really panicking...just stating some facts we are in for a really tough season, IMO Every season is a tough season. This is the Premier League. If anyone thinks it will be easy then they are mistaken. At the moment we are slightly weakened but it does seem that the board are on the case with the new additions and some of Guan's comments. Trouble is at this time of year every team is looking for quality and / or trying to secure best buy / sell price / player terms etc. It really is not as simple to get talent as people presume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Just to clarify, you think Fox is better at LB than Clyne? Probably yes. That's not the point though, we need Clyne at RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Pulis knows what he is doing. Doubt Palace will go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Probably yes. That's not the point though, we need Clyne at RB. Well, I'm mighty glad we made Koeman our manager, not you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 No question Clyne is far less effective at LB than RB. Ok in an emergency but not as a regular thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Just to clarify, you think Fox is better at LB than Clyne? Probably yes. I don't even know where to start with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Probably yes. That's not the point though, we need Clyne at RB. I think you may as well give up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroid Saint Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 no one can be told what the red panda really is. You have to see it for yourself, like the Matrix. You've gone and done it now; everyone will be waiting for Guan to post a picture of a blue panda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Probably yes. That's not the point though, we need Clyne at RB. I thought you'd be happy. You wanted a new left-back anyway, Shaw wasn't good enough defensively apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 nick powell told he can leave man utd would he be worth a punt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 nick powell told he can leave man utd would he be worth a punt? rather Jesse Lingard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Southamptons official twitter is recently following theo Walcott, 2+2=5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Southamptons official twitter is recently following theo Walcott, 2+2=5 Spider interesting the Arse + 'sensitive' transfer comments from ITKs + the above = 47.3?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Spider interesting the Arse + 'sensitive' transfer comments from ITKs + the above = 47.3?? Why would theo want to come here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Why would theo want to come here? His spiritual home... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Why would theo want to come here? Spiritual home? Local connections? Unfinished business? Lovren hot tub? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 I'd imagine he'd miss his £100,000 p/w contract and Champions League football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Detailed article in the Telegraph yesterday about how Sanchez would replace Walcott., not complement him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Spiritual home? Local connections? Unfinished business? Lovren hot tub? First reason is nonsense, he may know some people but doubt that would make him want to come here when he could play for top clubs, not sure what you mean by u finished business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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