saint_ed Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Out of curiousity since I haven´t seen any more links now, what players from Holland are we really linked with now after Pelle and Tadic has arrived? I see links to Redmond, Caulker, Ings, Wickham, Forster and Van Dijk if you stretch it... Loosely De Vrij and Blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Bit weird how Reed was talking about our scouting network and all the targets we are working on before we appointed Koeman yet we have signed and are mostly linked with players from Holland. Reed was working on the "targets" , and achieved them He got rid of Lambert, Shaw and Lallana Job done, apart from Lovren and Schneiderlin of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Loosely De Vrij and Blind. More fans wishes (and mine too) rather than actual links in the media, or have I missed it..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Bit disillusioned. We have been apparently working incredibly hard on transfers yet the only two we have got so far have been because of the new manager, We need to get a few in soon to prove that we are making the right moves and show our ambition to the wantaway players. Best of luck with that then. Katharina HAS spelt out her "ambition". It works out about 25% of what her Father's ambition was So the want away players already know ....... that's why they want away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Best of luck with that then. Katharina HAS spelt out her "ambition". It works out about 25% of what her Father's ambition was So the want away players already know ....... that's why they want away Yawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Best of luck with that then. Katharina HAS spelt out her "ambition". It works out about 25% of what her Father's ambition was So the want away players already know ....... that's why they want away Why dont you and St Charlie want away? Why you still hanging around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob40 Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Reed was working on the "targets" , and achieved them He got rid of Lambert, Shaw and Lallana Job done, apart from Lovren and Schneiderlin of course + Fonte and Cork......so basically a large part of the team that finished 8th last year.....we will become the new Newcastle but with clogs on and will finish nowhere near 8th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 So we made £25m more than NUFC in the past year. Over the past three years, our outgoings have also been a lot higher. I think NUFC are up about £25m, while we are down by about the same amount. Then let's not forget gate receipts. NUFC probably take £11m than us in gate receipts every season (just averaging their 20k more supporters per game at £30 a ticket over 19 games, so the reality might be very different). Sponsorship also brings in more for NUFC. They also are on TV more and get more from that than us. They are a bigger club than us - 2012/3 their turnover was £95.9m which was 34% more than ours. That they aren't always doing very well on the pitch is something different. Are you seriously telling me you don't think we can compete with Newcastle when it comes to signing players!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Bit weird how Reed was talking about our scouting network and all the targets we are working on before we appointed Koeman yet we have signed and are mostly linked with players from Holland. Players and their agents have choices though. Caulker is an example of that. He's had definate offers from 2 clubs but is waiting to see who else wants him and what they offer. Bony at Swansea is another one doing that. The longer an in demand player holds out, the better the deal they'll get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 More fans wishes (and mine too) rather than actual links in the media, or have I missed it..? There's been one or two hence the 'loosley' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Best of luck with that then. Katharina HAS spelt out her "ambition". It works out about 25% of what her Father's ambition was So the want away players already know ....... that's why they want away Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Why dont you and St Charlie want away? Why you still hanging around? You write mote posts about me than you do about Saints! Bless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Bit weird how Reed was talking about our scouting network and all the targets we are working on before we appointed Koeman yet we have signed and are mostly linked with players from Holland. I totally agree. And whats more, not only have those two new players arrived c/o Koeman ie nothing to do with our superb scouting network reg trademark but seemingly only dutch players fit the bill plus 2 players who scored against Saints last year in Redmond and Ings and two who stopped us in Marshall and caulker. Now forgive me for staying the obvious but to me it does seem like that bunch of buttons the analysts press every game to denote who did what and when must give one hell of a brucey bonus to whoever scores against at us or stopped us scoring. I could have told you that a guy who scores against us might be worth looking at and vice versa without analysis. I reckon all those video all those sheets of analysis are a very good fun job for saints enthusiasts to make some kind of a living from but on terms of delivering the right players - i reckon the way its set up favours whoever plays well against us on the basis that we are great. But we are not all That great. So it will deliver a list of the top twenty EPL players last year. Just like we could do. Are they available? How much? Will they join! Can the gaffer swing it with his reputation? All these are as important. And u reckon up until Koeman starting its why we were shut at buying good players. Good videos mean diddly squat frankly. If Koeman wants his old 37 CB here at SFC he will but him no matter if the vid says he's a donkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 You write mote posts about me than you do about Saints! Bless. Innumerate as well as dull. Way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Wow - i'd still give them a bit of time to wrap things up...! Fingers crossed a few more in by the start of next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Wow... So we think so little of our scouts that there is no way we would be targeting top players in the dutch league before Koemans arrival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Bit weird how Reed was talking about our scouting network and all the targets we are working on before we appointed Koeman yet we have signed and are mostly linked with players from Holland. What would be "weird" is a club with no flexibility in its transfer policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 I see a few days without a signing, has bought the doom-sayers out again, wums and trolls, the lot of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Are you seriously telling me you don't think we can compete with Newcastle when it comes to signing players!? NO, I never said that. You seem to think that Newcastle shouldn't have an appeal that might be greater than us. I merely pointed out that they were a bigger club and had more resources than we do, which for some reason you fail to acknowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Would be nice to see LB replacement and another striker addressed in the next few days; then we can at least we can argue we are at the same stength as just before J-Rod got injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 It's interesting that Koeman said he wants to play wingers, considering we have none. Midfield is our only well stocked position but now were short there too. We really are going to have to speed things up because I can see us taking too long and doing some last minute signings who aren't up to scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 It's interesting that Koeman said he wants to play wingers, considering we have none. Midfield is our only well stocked position but now were short there too. We really are going to have to speed things up because I can see us taking too long and doing some last minute signings who aren't up to scratch Fits in with the reports that were after Nathan Redmond. Would really suit our target system and style. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Harry Redknapp has made Aston Villa centre-half Ron Vlaar, 29, a £4m target for QPR. Birmingham Mail Surely we can offer a better deal than 'arry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Bit weird how Reed was talking about our scouting network and all the targets we are working on before we appointed Koeman yet we have signed and are mostly linked with players from Holland. Yeah is a bit. He made a point of saying how hard they were all working yet it seems like most of the players we are going for are linked to the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Best of luck with that then. Katharina HAS spelt out her "ambition". It works out about 25% of what her Father's ambition was So the want away players already know ....... that's why they want away Oh do give it a rest you tiresome bore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 It's interesting that Koeman said he wants to play wingers, considering we have none. Midfield is our only well stocked position but now were short there too. We really are going to have to speed things up because I can see us taking too long and doing some last minute signings who aren't up to scratch Winger area is the weakest aspect of our squad because for two years we didn't play with them. Could argue the only positions we are ok in currently are RB and central midfield. Will certainly need to accelerate our signings as currently are netting at minus two in the squad versus last season with two in and four first team squad members out. Plus Jay Rod who will miss at least 3 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Yeah is a bit. He made a point of saying how hard they were all working yet it seems like most of the players we are going for are linked to the manager. Does Koeman have multi nationality because in the last 2 weeks I have seen Greek, Iranian, Argentinian, English and Scottish still whatever floats your boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 It's interesting that Koeman said he wants to play wingers, considering we have none. Midfield is our only well stocked position but now were short there too. We really are going to have to speed things up because I can see us taking too long and doing some last minute signings who aren't up to scratch Really? We only lost Lallana and have replaced him with Tadic. Unless we lose Schneiderlin, we have him, Cork, Wanyama, Davis, Ward-Prowse, Gaston and back up with the likes of Reed coming through. How many midfielders do we need? If we play wingers, then Rodriguez when he's fit, Isgrove, Mayuka are possibilities out wide, but then we are probably scouting fast wide players anyway to suit Koeman's style of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trout-Tickler Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Harry Redknapp has made Aston Villa centre-half Ron Vlaar, 29, a £4m target for QPR. Birmingham Mail Surely we can offer a better deal than 'arry? In the last year of his contract according to that so Villa might be willing to cash in and avoid losing him for nothing. Certainly had a good World Cup...coming here to work with a Dutch legend might be appealing to him. At £4m surely worth a punt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Does Koeman have multi nationality because in the last 2 weeks I have seen Greek, Iranian, Argentinian, English and Scottish still whatever floats your boat Linked to at least 6 (possibly 7) from the Dutch league recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 It's interesting that Koeman said he wants to play wingers, considering we have none. Midfield is our only well stocked position but now were short there too. We really are going to have to speed things up because I can see us taking too long and doing some last minute signings who aren't up to scratch As I understand it TADIC can play out wide, similar to Lallana last year plus he is a better passer / crosser alledgelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 NO, I never said that. You seem to think that Newcastle shouldn't have an appeal that might be greater than us. I merely pointed out that they were a bigger club and had more resources than we do, which for some reason you fail to acknowledge. What I was saying was that the supposed Itk'er said we lost out on Janmaat because the cost and wages was too much for us to afford I was merely pointing out that if we wanted to we could have !? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 £10 million for Pelle though? I'm not convinced he will be successful at all. So it seems Ronald will try and bring in a few lower profile signing, hope he's aware of the meltdown thar will cause on here But RK is convinced, and presumably Reed etc, so thats what matters. You retain the absolute right to shout at RK all you like if he gets it wrong, or you can cheer Pelle to the roof and sing his name while forgetting your past concerns - thats how it works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Linked to at least 6 (possibly 7) from the Dutch league recently. So you are saying we dont have 20 scouts in different countries now just ones in the Netherlands because we have a Dutch manager.... Reed was lying nice one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Harry Redknapp has made Aston Villa centre-half Ron Vlaar, 29, a £4m target for QPR. Birmingham Mail Surely we can offer a better deal than 'arry? Maybe but let's not get greedy. If Harry has turned his attention to Vlaar it probably means we have jumped into pole position for Caulker.. Can't have both (esp if Lovren stays). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Harry Redknapp has made Aston Villa centre-half Ron Vlaar, 29, a £4m target for QPR. Birmingham Mail Surely we can offer a better deal than 'arry? So will lots of other clubs. He'll have his pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 As I understand it TADIC can play out wide, similar to Lallana last year plus he is a better passer / crosser alledgelly And he can play for the full 90mins So we get 20mins extra for starters Can't be bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Oh do give it a rest you tiresome bore. The truth hurts don't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Express Football @ExpressFootball 11m Clement Grenier waiting on Arsenal bid despite Everton, Newcastle and Southampton interest http://dexpr.es/1mXlLwB Players in deciding where they want to go shocker.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 The truth hurts don't it It certainly is true that you are a tiresome bore! Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 The truth hurts don't it The ball aching repetitiveness based on nothing hurts more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 So you are saying we dont have 20 scouts in different countries now just ones in the Netherlands because we have a Dutch manager.... Reed was lying nice one. No I wasn't saying any of that. You just invented it. I would have expected us to make a signing or two that isn't linked to the new manager by now if they were working as hard as they said they were behind the scenes for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 The ball aching repetitiveness based on nothing hurts more. 20,860 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 As things stand Saints HAVE NOT made a bid for Caulker. The only club to have met the release clause is QPR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 No I wasn't saying any of that. You just invented it. I would have expected us to make a signing or two that isn't linked to the new manager by now if they were working as hard as they said they were behind the scenes for so long. You point is fair. For some reason people think when you suggest something at Saints isnt perfect that you are a bedwetter, or are totally wrong etc. Do not see what is wrong with the point you are making. We clearly have a very advanced acouting system, however its clear that Pelle and Tadic (whilst we may have been looking at them anyway) were firmly Koeman's choices. Nothing wrong with that, nothing wrong with saying that. Surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Bit of a log-jam in the market around a small group of CBs. Lovren seems to be the key to it - players are therefore keeping their options open as some of Liverpool's targets are probably also Saints's. Would Vlaar consider QPR or Saints a step up though from Villa? I know they are stagnating until Lerner gets what he wants in terms of selling the club but I didn't get the impression he (Vlaar) was unsettled there. I suppose a healthy post-WC signing on fee wouldn't hurt his bank balance but Villa are a historically big club. I've always said we need another CB anyway regardless of whether Lovren goes or not so if he does, make that two new CBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 (edited) Obviously any signings need both the transfer committee agreeing on targets and them being willing to join. The Dutch ones were first to sign because of Koeman's reputation and the fact the he knew of interest beforehand. In the Pelle interview he acknowledged he had had some kind of discussion before RK even left Feyenoord. That doesnt mean most of our targets are Dutch. Edited 17 July, 2014 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 It's not a transfer window without a fresh Banega link: https://www.clubcall.com/southampton/koeman-considers-valencia-return-1733371.html? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 I didn't get the impression he (Vlaar) was unsettled there. I suppose a healthy post-WC signing on fee wouldn't hurt his bank balance but Villa are a historically big club. No idea whats in his mind, obviously, but he is entering the last year of his contract so unless thats resolved very soon presumably he'll be leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 youre STILL persisting with the generic troll defence when 5 minutes on any football forum will show even the simplest mind that the majority of football fans in this country are negative and fear the worst. 'Of course, club x, y z never does it the easy way'. Every forum. But reality doesn't help your posts does it Seems to be an epidemic of these discussions. Please bear in mind that nobody else cares about your conversation. Perhaps PM is a more appropriate way to continue it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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