Saint Charlie Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 Sky woman on Twitter @SkySportsAmy I'm told Koeman will be handed up to £70m to spend on transfers by Southampton who expect to raise up to 90m if they sell star players
hypochondriac Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 Sky woman on Twitter @SkySportsAmy I'm told Koeman will be handed up to £70m to spend on transfers by Southampton who expect to raise up to 90m if they sell star players Is that on top of player sale money or not I wonder.
Saint Charlie Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 Is that on top of player sale money or not I wonder. Almost certainly its having factored in player money. Would mean a trading profit.
Saint_Abroad Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 Sky woman on Twitter @SkySportsAmy I'm told Koeman will be handed up to £70m to spend on transfers by Southampton who expect to raise up to 90m if they sell star players That's some serious Swiss cheese.......
Saint Charlie Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 That's some serious Swiss cheese....... True, although replacing the quality of outgoings will cost a lot. Should be interesting. Also Clubs will know we quite a bit of cash if those sales do happen.
Window Cleaner Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 That's some serious Swiss cheese....... And twice the figure that our revered source Guan gave us...
hypochondriac Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 Almost certainly its having factored in player money. Would mean a trading profit. Would make it difficult to replace Rickie, Adam, lovren and Shaw plus reinforcements. I would say at least 7 players needed if those lot all go.
Saint Charlie Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 And twice the figure that our revered source Guan gave us... Would imagine the expected sales have changed things as we need to replace those players too. In the end we could well spend a lot this summer without putting any of our own money in.
shurlock Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 Almost certainly its having factored in player money. Would mean a trading profit. Then it depends how many sales are factored in -Shaw, Lallana, Lovren, Schneiderlin. More than £70m there alone.
Window Cleaner Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 Would imagine the expected sales have changed things as we need to replace those players too. In the end we could well spend a lot this summer without putting any of our own money in. We shall see, not expecting anywhere near as much to be spent myself, to me 35 million would be a decent figure, depends who we sell, really can't see a mass exodus. Morgan and Dejan of the "good" players, Osvaldo on loan and Gaston of the others. Can't see anyone paying the ridiculous fees for Shaw or Lallana so unless we're going to back down on that it won't happen.
Saint_Abroad Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 Then it depends how many sales are factored in -Shaw, Lallana, Lovren, Schneiderlin. More than £70m there alone. Assuming what Ms Amy said is true, I read it as £70M before player transfers but that is also contrary to rumors that all player sales will go into the transfer budget (the £90M bit).
Saint Charlie Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 Then it depends how many sales are factored in -Shaw, Lallana, Lovren, Schneiderlin. More than £70m there alone. Depends who actually goes I guess. Agree with Hypo we could well need up to 7 and Reed did say sales money would be reinvested but no way its 70m plus the sales money on top - Krueger talked about sustainability etc so that wouldnt add up. As long as we spend enough to compensate for any departures and improve last seasons weak backup areas then that will do. Easier said than done though.
Saint Charlie Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 Assuming what Ms Amy said is true, I read it as £70M before player transfers but that is also contrary to rumors that all player sales will go into the transfer budget (the £90M bit). Not a chance in hell that we would have spent 70m this summer if we retained all current players. Where would this money come from? Remember the TG and existing transfer costs too, that would be well over £100m. Could only have an outlay like that if we have big money coming in.
SuperSAINT Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 Sky woman on Twitter @SkySportsAmy I'm told Koeman will be handed up to £70m to spend on transfers by Southampton who expect to raise up to 90m if they sell star players I predict an Alex Crook story to break about this later on today...
Secret Site Agent Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 I've been trying to post for 4 hours, it's annoying working off of a dongle. According to my source, Lucius, (yes, we'll call him that today), Man U put in a 30 mill offer for Luke Shaw. They were met with a curt, fargoff. raised it to 32 Still fargov Suggested 37 Told to go away as staff are preparing for the England game tonight. BUT, Lucius has some paperwork to ponder over regarding four of our players if the offer is acceptable, but nothing will supposedly happen for at least two weeks, if not longer. But the prices of some will go through the roof. On the table, three at the back, three in the middle, two up the front have all had speculation around them, but had big fat 'thanks for asking, not at this time' thrown back to the clubs.
Saint_Abroad Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 (edited) Not a chance in hell that we would have spent 70m this summer if we retained all current players. Where would this money come from? Remember the TG and existing transfer costs too, that would be well over £100m. Could only have an outlay like that if we have big money coming in. Kat's personal motto is "balls to the wall." She'll sell a few of those big dump trucks her family makes and before you know it Cristiano Ronaldo will be looking for a house in Hampshire. Edited 24 June, 2014 by Saint_Abroad
WATERSIDEIFASAINT Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 Maybe KL is so pi**ed off with MP and NC that she has decided to invest more in the transfer budget to try to get us to the next level and compete with Spurs and is not worried of overspending this summer. If Lovren, Shaw and Lallana all leave this summer it would not surprise me if we end up spending £100 million+ on 7 new players
buctootim Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 On the table, three at the back, three in the middle, two up the front have all had speculation around them Seems odd. We havent got two front players who are fit and who we wouldn't want to sell. Gallagher possibly, but no-one is going to buy Rodriguez atm and we'd say "yes, please, now" to any enquiries for Osvaldo, Mayuka or Sharp.
Bearsy Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 I've been trying to post for 4 hours, it's annoying working off of a dongle. 4 hours is outside limit for effects of viagra, did you exceed recommended dosage 25-100mg? #doctorbrianearsy
Secret Site Agent Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 4 hours is outside limit for effects of viagra, did you exceed recommended dosage 25-100mg? #doctorbrianearsy I'm sorry, Doctor Bearsy, I bought the stuff off of the tinternet @ £3, tab.
Heisenberg Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 We need to ramp up our expectations on this thread. According to MLG we have £160m to spend this summer!!!! #Itshappening #newmancity
Saint Charlie Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 We need to ramp up our expectations on this thread. According to MLG we have £160m to spend this summer!!!! #Itshappening #newmancity Will Jay Rod be able to get in the team ahead of Robben when he returns from injury?
Saint Charlie Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 (edited) Anyway, a proper story: Saints in for Paulinho from Livorno according to the very well connected Di Marzio: http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/calciomercato/southampton-pursues-livornos-paulinho-the-situation/ Edited 24 June, 2014 by Saint Charlie
Window Cleaner Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 I've been trying to post for 4 hours, it's annoying working off of a dongle. According to my source, Lucius, (yes, we'll call him that today), Man U put in a 30 mill offer for Luke Shaw. They were met with a curt, fargoff. raised it to 32 Still fargov Suggested 37 Told to go away as staff are preparing for the England game tonight. BUT, Lucius has some paperwork to ponder over regarding four of our players if the offer is acceptable, but nothing will supposedly happen for at least two weeks, if not longer. But the prices of some will go through the roof. On the table, three at the back, three in the middle, two up the front have all had speculation around them, but had big fat 'thanks for asking, not at this time' thrown back to the clubs. So we have 4 players that we actually want to sell (or even loan out) if the terms are right and a whole lot that we don't. Don't need to be a genius to know we want to get shot of Osvaldo,Sharp,Jos and Mayuka really.
Restark19 Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 Will Jay Rod be able to get in the team ahead of Robben when he returns from injury? I see our front 4 something like this --------Agüero Jrod--Mueller---Robben
Restark19 Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 Obv the 3 behind the striker will interchange as in our current formation. although Isgrove will start in Jays position before he returns from injury
Badger Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 Anyway, a proper story: Saints in for Paulinho from Livorno according to the very well connected Di Marzio: http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/calciomercato/southampton-pursues-livornos-paulinho-the-situation/ A South American playing in Serie A ? Think I'd pass on that one from our previous experience. Especially the tatooed ponytailed variety.
Window Cleaner Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 A South American playing in Serie A ? Think I'd pass on that one from our previous experience. Especially the tatooed ponytailed variety. A complete non-starter, doesn't seem to be a dual national, doesn't seem to be a Brazil regular, doesn't seem to be very good...thus won't get a work permit. Italian agent bolloaks...move on.
trousers Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 A complete non-starter, doesn't seem to be a dual national, doesn't seem to be a Brazil regular, doesn't seem to be very good...thus won't get a work permit. Italian agent bolloaks...move on. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulo_S%C3%A9rgio_Betanin He also holds Italian passport through Venetian descent. Agree with your other observations though
Saint Charlie Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 Italian Journo: Good player, great fighter, can score in different ways, also from outside of the box. Not top-tier talent, probably 12-15 goals. I would say he is worth 7-8m, 10m a bit high. I think he can adapt, very physical Di Marzio links usually pretty reliable, he was the first to report all the Osvaldo and Ramirez movements so wouldnt write off as agent talk.
Window Cleaner Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 Italian Journo: Good player, great fighter, can score in different ways, also from outside of the box. Not top-tier talent, probably 12-15 goals. I would say he is worth 7-8m, 10m a bit high. I think he can adapt, very physical Di Marzio links usually pretty reliable, he was the first to report all the Osvaldo and Ramirez movements so wouldnt write off as agent talk. In fact it's exactly the sort of crap selling plater we do need to be writing off, let him go to the UAE or wherever it is that they want to pay 10 million€ for him, will do nothing in the PL, I thought we'd have learned our lesson by now. We do not need to be paying 7 million£ for Italo-Brazilian no hopers. FFS
Saint Fan CaM Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 Anyone considered that quoted £70m might include monies to keep Lallana, Shaw and Lovren here?
Toon Saint Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 A South American playing in Serie A ? Think I'd pass on that one from our previous experience. Especially the tatooed ponytailed variety. I think Kat has a 'type'.
Downthe36 Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 Anyone considered that quoted £70m might include monies to keep Lallana, Shaw and Lovren here? Erm...pretty sure that the only way we get that £70m is if those players leave.
Dig Dig Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 Anyone considered that quoted £70m might include monies to keep Lallana, Shaw and Lovren here? How does that work?
Saint Fan CaM Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 New improved contracts etc Exactly. Just as likely as any other scenario when one considers Saints spunking £70m.
Dig Dig Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 Well we simply won't have 70M to spend without selling players. My guess is that they plan to lose one of the big guns and add to the 35M chest we reportedly have.
Olallana Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 Maybe the Veho contract is bigger than people think....
WATERSIDEIFASAINT Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 linked with Valencia striker Jonas in the sun( just seen on twitter). Don't know enough about him but see he is aged 30
SuperSAINT Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2668367/Dusan-Tadic-Southamptons-radar-boss-Ronald-Koeman-eyes-reinforcements.html
Saint Charlie Posted 24 June, 2014 Posted 24 June, 2014 (edited) Also linked with 20 year old Dundee Utd left back Andy Robertson. I know its only the SPL but he looks to be a player of huge potential. http://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/sport/dundee-united/southampton-weigh-up-bid-for-dundee-united-star-andrew-robertson-1.436552 Edited 24 June, 2014 by Saint Charlie
Bakovnetski Posted 25 June, 2014 Posted 25 June, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2668367/Dusan-Tadic-Southamptons-radar-boss-Ronald-Koeman-eyes-reinforcements.html
SuperSAINT Posted 25 June, 2014 Posted 25 June, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2668367/Dusan-Tadic-Southamptons-radar-boss-Ronald-Koeman-eyes-reinforcements.html ^ 3 posts up
saint_ed Posted 25 June, 2014 Posted 25 June, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2668367/Dusan-Tadic-Southamptons-radar-boss-Ronald-Koeman-eyes-reinforcements.html Now this is one I would like, with or without Lallana. He is a top talent IMO.
Bewildered Posted 25 June, 2014 Posted 25 June, 2014 http://www.vi.nl/nieuws/southampton-en-sevilla-melden-zich-voor-tadic.htm The well respected Voetbal International also believe we want Tadic, but face competition from Sevilla, who want him as a replacement for Rakitic. Howver Sevilla won't meet the 12 million Euro valuation. At least that is what I gathered from this google translation Play around Dusan Tadic starts to get going. Southampton and Seville are still the most serious candidates to buy. 25-year-old star striker of FC Twente The club from the Premier League next season which is trained by Ronald Koeman, volunteered last week through an intermediary in the management of Tadic. Thereby was discussed conditions under which the international of Serbia can be taken over. FC Twente requests a transfer fee of more than twelve million Tadic, who this season in the Eredivisie was good for sixteen goals and fourteen assists. That amount is still too much for Seville, which he has in mind as a replacement for the Barcelona attracted by Ivan Rakitic. A financial arrangement with the Doyen Sports Group to make the transfer of Tadic to La Liga still possible. The investment company recently signed a partnership with the Enschede and this season was also a sponsor of Seville. As part of the agreement with FC Twente is a portion of future income transfers administered by Doyen.
SuperSAINT Posted 25 June, 2014 Posted 25 June, 2014 Livermore to Hull 8m ! I like Livermore - Solid player, but when you consider Coutinho was around the same price
Saint Charlie Posted 25 June, 2014 Posted 25 June, 2014 Diego Poyet is on the move and fits our profile.
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