DuncanRG Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Just noticed that the official Twitter feed has swapped the black and silver badge for the traditional colours. Big, obvious stripes on the graphics for the Home and Heart campaign as well. Seems the new board are getting some early crowd pleasing in. Fully expect a traditional kit next year!
shurlock Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Lets see who's playing in our traditional kit next year.
saintmatt Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Lets see who's playing in our traditional kit next year. Indeed. I genuinely believe some fans would prefer be in league one playing in stripes than in the prem playing in all red. We started out with a sash ffs!
BlakeySFC Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Just noticed that the official Twitter feed has swapped the black and silver badge for the traditional colours. Big, obvious stripes on the graphics for the Home and Heart campaign as well. Seems the new board are getting some early crowd pleasing in. Fully expect a traditional kit next year! I wouldn't get your hopes up.
simo Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 I've posted a list of things they can do to improve relations with fans on their Facebook page !
Sour Mash Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Indeed. I genuinely believe some fans would prefer be in league one playing in stripes than in the prem playing in all red. We started out with a sash ffs! What does that have to do with Saints playing in traditional kit? Most Saints fans will think it a good thing anyway
cellone Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 I was hoping for a red shirt with white darts angled down from just under the outside of the pec's towards the sturnam (SP). Would add definition to the physique and be a bit starsky and hutch.
Ajv2809 Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Undoubtedly preferred the monotone silver badge to be honest, the coloured one is rather garish. Likewise with the kit, really hope we don't go back to stripes. Would settle for an Air Florida style one though.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Said on another thread I like the single coloured crest. I'm also not hugely fussed either way on stripes. This years kit has actually grown on me.
Saint George Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Well I guess all that's the end of Cortese's Slick and professional brand building then......Back to the tin pot provincial club, with 1950's deck chairs, no ambition and a crest designed by a 16 year old school kid. This kind of fan pandering scares the **** out of me.....The last few years has been like a new dawn for this life long Saints fan...Going back to the way we were is going to be hard to take...But I guess that's what most Saint's fans seem to be craving for.
Sour Mash Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Well I guess all that's the end of Cortese's Slick and professional brand building then......Back to the tin pot provincial club, with 1950's deck chairs, no ambition and a crest designed by a 16 year old school kid. This kind of fan pandering scares the **** out of me.....The last few years has been like a new dawn for this life long Saints fan...Going back to the way we were is going to be hard to take...But I guess that's what most Saint's fans seem to be craving for. Cortese's brand building excited you that much?
aintforever Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 (edited) Well I guess all that's the end of Cortese's Slick and professional brand building then......Back to the tin pot provincial club, with 1950's deck chairs, no ambition and a crest designed by a 16 year old school kid. This kind of fan pandering scares the **** out of me.....The last few years has been like a new dawn for this life long Saints fan...Going back to the way we were is going to be hard to take...But I guess that's what most Saint's fans seem to be craving for. I thought what he was doing was confusing the brand more than anything. Sure the club was appearing to be more professionally run but the treatment of the crest was clumsy and dicking about with the kit works against the club having a cohesive identity. If you look at the biggest brands in English football like Man U and Arsenal, they all appear modern and professional whilst embracing their tradition and history. Edited 19 March, 2014 by aintforever
Barry Sanchez Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Well I guess all that's the end of Cortese's Slick and professional brand building then......Back to the tin pot provincial club, with 1950's deck chairs, no ambition and a crest designed by a 16 year old school kid. This kind of fan pandering scares the **** out of me.....The last few years has been like a new dawn for this life long Saints fan...Going back to the way we were is going to be hard to take...But I guess that's what most Saint's fans seem to be craving for. We have and we will always be a provincial club, going back to what? I would love to go back to terracing, the Dell and the atmosphere.
Saints foreva Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Well I guess all that's the end of Cortese's Slick and professional brand building then......Back to the tin pot provincial club, with 1950's deck chairs, no ambition and a crest designed by a 16 year old school kid. The gold badge looked ****ing dreadful. Glad the club are hinting that the colour badge will be making a return to the kit.
Saint Garrett Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Actually thought the black and silver badge looked a lot more professional for the website/social networking/tickets etc. But would have but would have the stripes back next season as long as they're not tacky looking. Keegan era for me.
shurlock Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Well I guess all that's the end of Cortese's Slick and professional brand building then......Back to the tin pot provincial club, with 1950's deck chairs, no ambition and a crest designed by a 16 year old school kid. This kind of fan pandering scares the **** out of me.....The last few years has been like a new dawn for this life long Saints fan...Going back to the way we were is going to be hard to take...But I guess that's what most Saint's fans seem to be craving for. Fear not we're going stateside
dubai_phil Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Lets see who's playing in our traditional kit next year. Let's see what our new sponsor will want........... apologies for being cynical but Ralph is all about the money
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Fear not we're going stateside Does it come in red and white stripes? (No smutty jokes please)
Ajv2809 Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Well I guess all that's the end of Cortese's Slick and professional brand building then......Back to the tin pot provincial club, with 1950's deck chairs, no ambition and a crest designed by a 16 year old school kid. This kind of fan pandering scares the **** out of me.....The last few years has been like a new dawn for this life long Saints fan...Going back to the way we were is going to be hard to take...But I guess that's what most Saint's fans seem to be craving for. Agreed.
CB Fry Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Well I guess all that's the end of Cortese's Slick and professional brand building then......Back to the tin pot provincial club, with 1950's deck chairs, no ambition and a crest designed by a 16 year old school kid. This kind of fan pandering scares the **** out of me.....The last few years has been like a new dawn for this life long Saints fan...Going back to the way we were is going to be hard to take...But I guess that's what most Saint's fans seem to be craving for. Spectacular overreaction to the club putting the club crest on their twitter feed. The silver badge was a "new dawn" was it? Diddums. In other news we are currently mid table in the top division, a place we have been many times before with a full colour badge and everything.
hypochondriac Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Indeed. I genuinely believe some fans would prefer be in league one playing in stripes than in the prem playing in all red. We started out with a sash ffs! Or maybe most people realise the two are not mutually exclusive and you can be successful and 'fan friendly?'
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Well I guess all that's the end of Cortese's Slick and professional brand building then......Back to the tin pot provincial club, with 1950's deck chairs, no ambition and a crest designed by a 16 year old school kid. This kind of fan pandering scares the **** out of me.....The last few years has been like a new dawn for this life long Saints fan...Going back to the way we were is going to be hard to take...But I guess that's what most Saint's fans seem to be craving for. Well put. Fan pandering achieves **** all.
Bucks Saint Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 I thought what he was doing was confusing the brand more than anything. Sure the club was appearing to be more professionally run but the treatment of the crest was clumsy and dicking about with the kit works against the club having a cohesive identity. If you look at the biggest brands in English football like Man U and Arsenal, they all appear modern and professional whilst embracing their tradition and history. This 100%
Sour Mash Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Well put. Fan pandering achieves **** all. Why does it need to 'achieve' anything?
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Why does it need to 'achieve' anything? Then why do it?
hypochondriac Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Why does making the crest the traditional colour and maybe having stripes equal destroying what Cortese has built and returning us to a tiny club? What a pathetic point of view.
hypochondriac Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Then why do it? Because I would guess (though have no figures to back it up) that most supporters would prefer it that way. Football fans in general like the history and traditions of their club and sensible owners tend to embrace that and make it part of the club's future (see huge clubs like United, Liverpool and Arsenal for details.) It isn't exactly harming us at any rate, unless you think that the gold and silver crests somehow made us a mint.
Sour Mash Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Then why do it? Do what? What has got you so angry? We've gone back to using our long standing badge, not going to do any harm is it?
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Because I would guess (though have no figures to back it up) that most supporters would prefer it that way. Football fans in general like the history and traditions of their club and sensible owners tend to embrace that and make it part of the club's future (see huge clubs like United, Liverpool and Arsenal for details.) It isn't exactly harming us at any rate, unless you think that the gold and silver crests somehow made us a mint. We could be here all night and this is my last of 3 posts. Not sure Arsenal is a good example - they changed their badge a while back and the fans were in uproar. In my opinion trying to appease fans (if that's what this is) is doomed because they will have such diverse views. A few quick wins might work but after that views will be so different that increasingly large sections will get ****ed off. Far better just to let one person/board just get on making the decisions on what they see fit. Populist approaches just don't work as the mess down the road shows. Sorry I can't contribute further to this.
hypochondriac Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 We could be here all night and this is my last of 3 posts. Not sure Arsenal is a good example - they changed their badge a while back and the fans were in uproar. In my opinion trying to appease fans (if that's what this is) is doomed because they will have such diverse views. A few quick wins might work but after that views will be so different that increasingly large sections will get ****ed off. Far better just to let one person/board just get on making the decisions on what they see fit. Populist approaches just don't work as the mess down the road shows. Sorry I can't contribute further to this. If by populist approach you mean caving in to all the demands of the fans then I agree with you, but I don't think that's what anyone is saying here. When Arsenal designed their new stadium and had motifs of all their old legendary players was that a populist approach? Was it a populist approach when saints had their centenary kit with no sponsor? Is installing bobby Charlton at united a populist approach? When any number of clubs make gestures that recognise their history, it doesn't mean they cave in to every wim of the fans, it means they recognise that respecting history, having a mix of the traditional and the modern is what the majority of fans want. You aren't going to please all fans all of the time of course but doing something to listen to the wishes of the fans is surely better than ignoring fans all together? Or are you saying you support the Hull Tigers idea or the mess that Tan has made over in Cardiff?
Dig Dig Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 The clubs twitter handle looks pretty tin pot now. Disappointed.
Saint George Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 and dicking about with the kit works against the club having a cohesive identity. If you look at the biggest brands in English football like Man U and Arsenal, they all appear modern and professional whilst embracing their tradition and history. I'm sure, when he first saw our abortion of a kids scrap book club crest, his initial reaction would have been to scrap it altogether.....Making it monotone was at least a decent compromise, albeit probably temporary until it could be redesigned properly by a professional.
EBS1980 Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 I prefer the silver logo. The colour one just looks cheap in comparison.
The Kraken Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 I prefer the silver logo. The colour one just looks cheap in comparison. Depends what it's on. The silver on black looks good. The all white on the black of the away kit looks good. The gold on the red home kit looks naff and needs the full colour version.
The Cat Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 I like the new/old logo. When Cortese takes over the club in the summer he can get the fans back on side by changing it to the old/new one.
View From The Top Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Depends what it's on. The silver on black looks good. The all white on the black of the away kit looks good. The gold on the red home kit looks naff and needs the full colour version. Yep.
hypochondriac Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 I prefer the silver logo. The colour one just looks cheap in comparison. Good for you. I don't think it makes any difference financially but I suspect the majority prefer the traditional one so I'm glad it may be changed back.
hypochondriac Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Depends what it's on. The silver on black looks good. The all white on the black of the away kit looks good. The gold on the red home kit looks naff and needs the full colour version. Yep. There is probably room for both versions, as long as the original is still kept and used.
Patrick Bateman Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Depends what it's on. The silver on black looks good. The all white on the black of the away kit looks good. The gold on the red home kit looks naff and needs the full colour version. Agreed. The silver looks much more modern and should definitely be kept for formal literature and branding.
John Boy Saint Posted 19 March, 2014 Posted 19 March, 2014 Yep. There is probably room for both versions, as long as the original is still kept and used. Hooray! Sanity and common sense.
Dan Posted 20 March, 2014 Posted 20 March, 2014 Indeed. I genuinely believe some fans would prefer be in league one playing in stripes than in the prem playing in all red. We started out with a sash ffs! I would. Whats even that good about the PL? Expensive tickets, Sky messing around with kick offs and your surrounded by plastics. I'd take League 1 all day, every day.
Goatboy Posted 20 March, 2014 Posted 20 March, 2014 I would. Whats even that good about the PL? Expensive tickets, Sky messing around with kick offs and your surrounded by plastics. I'd take League 1 all day, every day. like (apart from bold)
ericofarabia Posted 21 March, 2014 Posted 21 March, 2014 Agreed. The silver looks much more modern and should definitely be kept for formal literature and branding. Agree with this, but for The Shirts etc, go back to the old stylee. The Gold on Red is just naff, and with both Silver and Gold you can only tell it's The SFC Crest if you are about 4 feet away. As much as I'd love some form of stripes next season, at least make an effort to incorporate Red AND White into it, and ditch the Red Shorts FFS.
whelk Posted 21 March, 2014 Posted 21 March, 2014 this sort of thing helps fans more. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fc-reveal-season-ticket-6858841 The additional cost or reduced revenue would be more than compensated by goodwill towards 'the brand' IMO. Crest and kit isnt overly important to me as has always been changeable but will not be convinced one chairman over another has the fans interest at heart. Policy may appear to change for the better but still only doing it with an eye to increase revenue not because they care about the opinion of fans.
Bucks Saint Posted 21 March, 2014 Posted 21 March, 2014 Crest and kit isnt overly important to me as has always been changeable but will not be convinced one chairman over another has the fans interest at heart. Policy may appear to change for the better but still only doing it with an eye to increase revenue not because they care about the opinion of fans. Agreed but having at least one eye on giving the fans some of what they want, is much the same as caring, and is usually solid business sense at the same time. Fine by me
manji Posted 21 March, 2014 Posted 21 March, 2014 Well I guess all that's the end of Cortese's Slick and professional brand building then......Back to the tin pot provincial club, with 1950's deck chairs, no ambition and a crest designed by a 16 year old school kid. This kind of fan pandering scares the **** out of me.....The last few years has been like a new dawn for this life long Saints fan...Going back to the way we were is going to be hard to take...But I guess that's what most Saint's fans seem to be craving for. I agree. The fan pandering reminds of the dreaded "Mike" Wilde era. Dont listen to the fans most of them are either idiots or bozos with an agenda. PS who gives a schitt about safe standing and I dont want the parochial stripes back either.
CB Fry Posted 21 March, 2014 Posted 21 March, 2014 I agree. The fan pandering reminds of the dreaded "Mike" Wilde era. Dont listen to the fans most of them are either idiots or bozos with an agenda. PS who gives a schitt about safe standing and I dont want the parochial stripes back either. Who would want to be a parochial club like Barcelona, Inter or Juventus or current Champions League Quarter-finalists Athletico Madrid. Amazing they got so far wearing that kit.
manji Posted 21 March, 2014 Posted 21 March, 2014 Who would want to be a parochial club like Barcelona, Inter or Juventus or current Champions League Quarter-finalists Athletico Madrid. Amazing they got so far wearing that kit. Not the same they are all established big clubs. And Im talking about this country. Most of our history we havnt worn stripes so how are the part of our heritage ?
CB Fry Posted 21 March, 2014 Posted 21 March, 2014 Not the same they are all established big clubs. And Im talking about this country. Most of our history we havnt worn stripes so how are the part of our heritage ? Hang on - is worrying about our heritage pandering to parochial fans or not? Make your mind up before you start grizzling about what is or isn't our heritage.
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