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I like the like/dislike idea.

 

It's always easy to criticise others in these kinds of situation, be that fellow posters or mods however the greatest power we have is over our own posts and reactions, so it ultimately comes down to the individual to moderate their own behaviour, irrespective of what moderators do.

 

It's a hard line for mods to draw to know what is appropriate and what isn't, which is why nature taking it's course is often best... threads that no one contributes to will drop down the page, and naturally disappear. They've been criticised time and again for things they have deleted, and then get slated for things they haven't. That said, Mods do have a duty to at least review a posters posts if there is a view that they may be trolling and make a decision if necessary.

 

Finally - sadly - some people in life have nothing but a negative outlook and so their posts simply reflect that. That is life. I know a few people like it in real life but no one removes them from the pub when they're going on...!

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Yeah... No one seems to have concidered the fact that old Glasgow_Saint might just be a right miserable bastard...

 

Nah. I know plenty of miserable bastards. Most are just content to wallow in their own misery. GS seems more about schadenfraude. If the misery doesn't exist, he'll generate it by posting.

 

I've never called for anyone to be banned, but I do think this site is woefully behind the times in terms of features.

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Nah. I know plenty of miserable bastards. Most are just content to wallow in their own misery. GS seems more about schadenfraude. If the misery doesn't exist, he'll generate it by posting.

 

I've never called for anyone to be banned, but I do think this site is woefully behind the times in terms of features.

 

You can tell the miserable ones (sorry Alps, but you are pretty miserable).

 

I still lol at getting called Happy (as an insult) on here. I'm known to most as a miserable git.

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Nah. I know plenty of miserable bastards. Most are just content to wallow in their own misery. GS seems more about schadenfraude. If the misery doesn't exist, he'll generate it by posting.

 

I've never called for anyone to be banned, but I do think this site is woefully behind the times in terms of features.

 

I mean take last week, he spammed about 4 threads with exactly the same post, Jimmy D told him to knock it off, probably did for about an hour or so. Then again it's up to the rest of us not to read anything he posts or anyone who reacts to anything he posts.

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?49409-Ralph-Krueger-Chairman/page4#.Uycii6h5OSo

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Yeah... No one seems to have concidered the fact that old Glasgow_Saint might just be a right miserable bastard...

 

 

I have acknowledged that myself in the past - its just the way I look at things. I do the same in my job and it produces results and have applied the same outlook to my life and im not doing to badly.

 

Always look on the bright side of life – I’m told (at least once a week) :lol:

 

I am delighted with our season as I have said many many times, I am excited for the future and am hoping for a season of spend + improvement. I do however like to understand the bigger picture and with one win all season against the top 10 I thought it was value for discussion.

 

I am accused of being a troll but when I request examples of the "troll" posts they are never given. I don’t consider myself a troll - far from it. Im just a Saints fan that praises when he can, but not unconditionally. I get a lot of abuse and rarely retaliate or insult other posters

 

I work for an investment team - you make someone £200,000 and I want to make them 400,000..... don’t ever settle, keep challenging and don’t accept mediocrity or 2nd best.

 

Show me a good loser and ill show you a loser!!

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You can tell the miserable ones (sorry Alps, but you are pretty miserable).

 

I still lol at getting called Happy (as an insult) on here. I'm known to most as a miserable git.

 

I mean take last week, he spammed about 4 threads with exactly the same post, Jimmy D told him to knock it off, probably did for about an hour or so. Then again it's up to the rest of us not to read anything he posts or anyone who reacts to anything he posts.

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?49409-Ralph-Krueger-Chairman/page4#.Uycii6h5OSo

 

If the season ended now, 8th would be our most impressive finish since 2002-2003.

 

I was positive then; unjustifiably as it turns out.

 

I don't know; may be it's because I skim read his posts now, but I can't really remember GS "supporting" the Saints. The constant negativity has a dishonest quality about it.

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I mean take last week, he spammed about 4 threads with exactly the same post, Jimmy D told him to knock it off, probably did for about an hour or so. Then again it's up to the rest of us not to read anything he posts or anyone who reacts to anything he posts.

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?49409-Ralph-Krueger-Chairman/page4#.Uycii6h5OSo

So the mods did their job? Did you recently contact the club about one of his posts?
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I work for an investment team - you make someone £200,000 and I want to make them 400,000..... don’t ever settle, keep challenging and don’t accept mediocrity or 2nd best.

 

Show me a good loser and ill show you a loser!!

 

Just seen wolf on wall street or something have you?

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Glasgow_Saint

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always negative?

 

all positive threads -

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?49377-The-best-Saints-team-squad-in-my-lifetime

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?49336-Your-player-of-the-season

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?48404-We-re-all-going-to-Wembley

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?47578-Lallana

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?47712-As-it-stands-do-we-have-a-better-team-than-ENGLAND

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?47450-A-chance-to-go-SECOND

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?46238-What-a-week-for-LAMBERT!

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?45322-The-Future-s-So-Bright-I-Gotta-Wear-Shades

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I like the like/dislike idea.

 

It's always easy to criticise others in these kinds of situation, be that fellow posters or mods however the greatest power we have is over our own posts and reactions, so it ultimately comes down to the individual to moderate their own behaviour, irrespective of what moderators do.

 

It's a hard line for mods to draw to know what is appropriate and what isn't, which is why nature taking it's course is often best... threads that no one contributes to will drop down the page, and naturally disappear. They've been criticised time and again for things they have deleted, and then get slated for things they haven't. That said, Mods do have a duty to at least review a posters posts if there is a view that they may be trolling and make a decision if necessary.

 

Finally - sadly - some people in life have nothing but a negative outlook and so their posts simply reflect that. That is life. I know a few people like it in real life but no one removes them from the pub when they're going on...!

 

I agree with the concept of a like / dislike function, but to take it to the level of banning people for trolling is excessive IMHO. This is an Internet forum; I'm not a fan of censorship at the best of times, but to ban people for saying stuff others don't like is way beyond the pale. And if anyone is so precious about an Internet forum, they need to get a life as much as Glasgow does.

 

That said, like most people I find Glasgows incessant, monotonous trolling extremely tiresome (amongst others). I don't want him banned for this (I'd quite like it, but it's just not right) but being able to rate posters and have him publicly displayed to be someone we all can't stand would be the most effective way of getting him to rethink his ways. He's happy to publicly air his "views" so why shouldn't we publicly display what we all think of them?

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Fair play, GS. Now list the negative ones.

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West Bromwich finished 8th last year and we won in the first game of the season against them....

 

Wouldn´t that be a win against a top 10 team as the situation were...?

 

No because West Brom begins with W and that means they were 19th going into that game.

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I'm not sure that highlighting one of the textbook trolling techniques is going to help your cause sir...

 

(The one about starting a few arbitrary positive threads which you can refer back to at sometime in the future to 'prove' that you're not always a negative WUM)

 

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Yeah... No one seems to have concidered the fact that old Glasgow_Saint might just be a right miserable bastard...

 

Certainly it's true that this place seems to be his entire life ...and it's all negative.

 

Two possibles, I suppose...feel sympathy or cull the tw*t :)

 

It is true that if he or his fish-fondling mate Sanchez spouted the views that they do on here in a Saints pub they'd be eating hospital food pretty sharp...make of this what you will?!

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Certainly it's true that this place seems to be his entire life ...and it's all negative.

 

Two possibles, I suppose...feel sympathy or cull the tw*t :)

 

It is true that if he or his fish-fondling mate Sanchez spouted the views that they do on here in a Saints pub they'd be eating hospital food pretty sharp...make of this what you will?!

 

 

What do you mean his entire life, he works with multi-billionaires on a daily basis, he told us so last week. I'm surprised he's got time to instruct us riff-raff in the finer points of not winning many football matches.

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I like the like/dislike idea.

 

 

Doesn't work either. They *had* that function on another forum I used to frequent and the WUMs/trolls just formed some sort of coalition and kept "liking" all the other WUMs posts so that they could then point to that number and scream that "everyone else likes what I am posting", "I am being hammered for no reason" etc.

 

Some of them went as far as to make new accounts so that they could "like" their own posts.

 

Credit to the WUMs on here, WUMming is hard work and takes great effort, their persistence is impressive really.

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No, alpine is just miserable but his hearts in the right place. Glasgow is an attention seeking (how many threads has he started?) wum. There is a difference.

 

 

Alpine isn't even miserable, he is just easily disappointed by poor performances where Saints are concerned. He did go to a few pre-season games when they were in his patch last summer.

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It is true that if he or his fish-fondling mate Sanchez spouted the views that they do on here in a Saints pub they'd be eating hospital food pretty sharp...make of this what you will?!

 

I think youve missed the point. There are 50-60 regular posters on here - If those 60 were to meet daily and discuss saints there would be arguements, fights, point scoring and bickering, no different to how it plays out on here.

 

If you have a large group you will always get a mixture of ages, characters, opinions, views, interpretation, expectation

 

It seems some on here want everyone to be the same = sterile, boring, no opinion either way, "happy to have a club" ect

 

Thats not 'real life' mate.

 

For those that want news read the OS or BBC, for those happy to discuss Saints with a mix of characters should stick with SWF and try not to take everything so serious. (All imho)

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I'm not sure that highlighting one of the textbook trolling techniques is going to help your cause sir...

 

(The one about starting a few arbitrary positive threads which you can refer back to at sometime in the future to 'prove' that you're not always a negative WUM)

 

;)

 

Dont be so easily fooled. Many of those threads were in themselves pure wind-up jobs - take the first thread. Given the background of the FA cup defeat, it was simply an attempt to add salt to the wounds, to set up implicitly and ultimately explicitly the contrast between the quality of our squad and our perceived underperformance and let the mongboard do it's magic.

 

There is no doubt a similar rationale to many of the c**t's other 'positive' threads.

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Have you noticed how many 6 pointers we have got this year ? I think we have become more professional at taking points from weaker opponents and stronger ones are less complacent so it is harder to pull off 'shock' wins.

 

As long as we keep beating the weaker teams we will do fine.

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I think youve missed the point. There are 50-60 regular posters on here - If those 60 were to meet daily and discuss saints there would be arguements, fights, point scoring and bickering, no different to how it plays out on here.

 

If you have a large group you will always get a mixture of ages, characters, opinions, views, interpretation, expectation

 

It seems some on here want everyone to be the same = sterile, boring, no opinion either way, "happy to have a club" ect

 

Thats not 'real life' mate.

 

For those that want news read the OS or BBC, for those happy to discuss Saints with a mix of characters should stick with SWF and try not to take everything so serious. (All imho)

 

What is ect?

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I think youve missed the point. There are 50-60 regular posters on here - If those 60 were to meet daily and discuss saints there would be arguements, fights, point scoring and bickering, no different to how it plays out on here.

 

If you have a large group you will always get a mixture of ages, characters, opinions, views, interpretation, expectation

 

It seems some on here want everyone to be the same = sterile, boring, no opinion either way, "happy to have a club" ect

 

Thats not 'real life' mate.

 

For those that want news read the OS or BBC, for those happy to discuss Saints with a mix of characters should stick with SWF and try not to take everything so serious. (All imho)

 

I think half the people would sit staring at their smartphones and say bugger all ..

 

With the odd one that likes the sound of their own voice ..

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Assuming Villa stay in the top 10 - we have 6 more chances to improve on this rather poor stat.

 

I thought last season our style suited us against the better sides, but not so much this season.

 

 

Spurs (A)

Newcastle (H)

Man City (A)

Villa (A) - D

Everton (H)

Man Utd (H)

 

COYR

 

i would rather we continue to beat the sides below us and finish 8th or 9th than have a few glory wins against the top sides and struggle against the rest.

 

Still i suppose winning and doing better than last year, is disappointing for the perpetual internet moaners

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Have you noticed how many 6 pointers we have got this year ? I think we have become more professional at taking points from weaker opponents and stronger ones are less complacent so it is harder to pull off 'shock' wins.

 

As long as we keep beating the weaker teams we will do fine.

 

ever since you forgot about Hoddle you have posted some real common sense, totally agree

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I have to say that got me checking the league table and I was a little surprised by that statement. But then, I looked through it again and it is against the current top 10. There have been times during the season we have beaten top 10 sides and we have picked up a draw at OT, at home to Man City and arsenal and of course won at Anfield.

 

We have plenty of games against teams currently in the top half and I think the best time for this sort of post is when we finish the season, but then again we will finish 6th/7th/8th/9th, so overall a pretty impressive season I would say. The football we have played is outstanding!

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Electro-convulsive therapy. ECT is a treatment for a small number of severe mental illnesses.

 

"Quivers down the backbone

I got the shakes down the knee bone

Yeah, the tremors in the thigh bone

Shakin' all over"

 

That's ECT for you.

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Assuming Villa stay in the top 10 - we have 6 more chances to improve on this rather poor stat.

 

I thought last season our style suited us against the better sides, but not so much this season.

 

 

Spurs (A)

Newcastle (H)

Man City (A)

Villa (A) - D

Everton (H)

Man Utd (H)

 

COYR

 

I promised myself I would not put anyone on ignore, but you've just changed that. Bye.

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Kind of agree that there should be a limit on starting threads. Maybe no more than 3 in a single day and no more than 6 or 7 in a single week.

 

I'm not sure pleas to ignore certain posters really aid the site...if the forum starts to require people to skip vast swathes of irritating, banal material, it kind of loses something.

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I think youve missed the point. There are 50-60 regular posters on here - If those 60 were to meet daily and discuss saints there would be arguements, fights, point scoring and bickering, no different to how it plays out on here.

 

If you have a large group you will always get a mixture of ages, characters, opinions, views, interpretation, expectation

 

It seems some on here want everyone to be the same = sterile, boring, no opinion either way, "happy to have a club" ect

 

Thats not 'real life' mate.

 

For those that want news read the OS or BBC, for those happy to discuss Saints with a mix of characters should stick with SWF and try not to take everything so serious. (All imho)

 

I agree, to a degree, with your first point - a diverse group will always be pretty lively and an array of opinions makes for interesting banter and debate but, and it's a big but - if a few of that group were constantly decrying, belittling, abusing the very reason that the group was gathered in the pub in the first place what do you think the outcome would be? 'IMHO'..those few would be seen for what they were and would be very quickly marginalised and ostracised. That's how society works particularly in a 'tribal' setting which is as close a description for a group of supporters as you're likely to find.

 

These forums allow a degree of anonymity and protection that woud not be afforded in that group in a pub - it shouldn't come as a surprise that the animosity towards you (and that skate BS) is quite so vehement...you're standing in a group acting in a manner that is constantly at odds with their reason for gathering!!

 

I do ignore a lot of what is posted...sadly there's enough of the tribal urge in me still to be irritated by some other...I acccept that Alpine is probably a depressive, I accept that Sanchez is a skate...do I accept you're just a WUM for fun? I repeat...I'm pretty sure I've outlined the real-life scenario...and in no way would I be your 'mate' in that group.

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Our record against Top 10 sides isn't an issue for me. Whilst it is unusual for a team in our position not to have more top half wins (and conversely not to have more bottom half losses) I don't think it is an issue or tells us much. We've been competitive in most of the games against the Top 6 but usually lost out on grounds of quality of squad depth - hardly something that is unacceptable.

 

Also it is interesting to see that despite a general view that we struggle against teams that sit back, that no longer appears to be the case either and we're finding a way to beat them.

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Kind of agree that there should be a limit on starting threads. Maybe no more than 3 in a single day and no more than 6 or 7 in a single week.

 

I'm not sure pleas to ignore certain posters really aid the site...if the forum starts to require people to skip vast swathes of irritating, banal material, it kind of loses something.

 

 

Ive started approx 300 threads in 7 years... Thats way less than 1 thread per week.

 

Take away the match threads, match reactions and build up threads and i average one new thread every 3-4 weeks, hardly excessive.

 

Same on the posting side... I average 3-4 posts per day (excl match threads). Enough to avoid if people really wanted too.

 

I get accused of people leaving the forum.... But no examples. The reality is people actually join because of me.... Look at goatboy for example, he only signed up so he could go toe to toe ;)

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