Lambert, Rodriguez or Carroll?

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

Who goes as the 4th striker in the England squad for the World Cup for you? As brilliantly as Jay Rod has done this season, i think Rickie still has something different to the rest and should go. If Jay is to go, it would be instead of Welbeck, for me, but I can't see Roy doing that.

[Appy]

Lambert will go as the 4th I think.

[SNSUN]

Rickie for me but you can't rule JRod out yet. Second top English scorer behind Sturridge and Hodgson has a big decision to make.

 

Can Hodgson take 5 strikers? ;-)

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

Rickie for me but you can't rule JRod out yet. Second top English scorer behind Sturridge and Hodgson has a big decision to make.

 

Can Hodgson take 5 strikers? ;-)

 

He can but England never do...

[Roger]

Lambert 41 chances created to j rods 12!

[Smirking_Saint]

Really has to be Lambert for me, everytime he has played for England he has looked good and thats because the set up suits him to a tee

 

J Rod will go as a wide man IF he goes, but as others have said Welbeck has his seat on the plane I think.

 

Carroll is a completely different option. He causes problems, you cant deny it, horrible player to play against. I dont think he will go though

[doddisalegend]

I wonder how many of J-rods goals the last two seasons have been assisted by Lambert? J-rod would get next to no service playing alongside glory boy Rooney in the England team. Given that J-rods England debut was pretty forgettable and he didn't even get on the pitch against Denmark I'm not sure Roy is all that impressed with J-rod. He will most likely only go if Sturridge, Rooney or Welbeck get injured before the WC.

[Appy]

Lambert 41 chances created to j rods 12!

 

Any chance you could start another thread on this?

 

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[Crazy Diamond]

I don't know why Carroll is even being mentioned. What's he done, other than spend long periods out injured - and by the way, he went AWOL when he was off injured - and scoring the odd goal here and there? I'm not even saying Lambert and J-Rod are the ultimate of options but Carroll has a lot of work to do to even get to their levels.

[igsey]

I'd take Lambert over JRod, don't see why they can't both go though - Wayne Rooney needs dropping, doesn't deserve his place and has never really contributed anything to England.

[Saint_Tony]

Think J Rod would suffer from stage fright at a World Cup. Fed up of all this 'Carroll offers something different' ********. Yes, he's strong in the air, but so is Rickie, except Rickie has a much better all round game. He's far more deserving of a spot IMO. And don't forget if a penalty shoot out is looming, he'd be handy to have on the bench to bring on

[Glasgow_Saint]

Lambert, but jay was class yesterday

[Tom28]

Lambert coming off the bench and making the impact he made yesterday in front of Roy Hodgson was probably the best thing that could have happened for his World Cup chances. We all know Rooney and Sturridge will be our starters. The remaining striking spots in the squad need to be guys who can make an impact off the bench (and possibly be penalty takers).

 

I think Lambert will go.

 

I think J Rod will be in the 30 and told he is pencilled in as one of the 7 to be culled before the WC.

[Snopper]

Robbie Savage says he`d take Carroll - takers a tit to know one it seems.

[lifeintheslowlane]

I think/hope Lambert will go...he has so much more to his game than the others and Hodgson is well aware of that. I feel sorry for J Rod because he'll make the 30 but cruelly culled for the sake of a big team rival. Carroll is a stereo-typical relic of past days...I hope we've moved on.

[david in sweden]

Lambert coming off the bench and making the impact he made yesterday in front of Roy Hodgson was probably the best thing that could have happened for his World Cup chances. We all know Rooney and Sturridge will be our starters. The remaining striking spots in the squad need to be guys who can make an impact off the bench (and possibly be penalty takers).

 

I think Lambert will go.

 

I think J Rod will be in the 30 and told he is pencilled in as one of the 7 to be culled before the WC.

 

 

THIS ! .....well said .

[Hatch]

I'm in the minority I think , but I think Carroll is a decent player.

[Viking Warrior]

Savage is a total ****t

[Saint Fan CaM]

Has to be Lambert.

[davefizzy14]

Lambert

[Batman]

the question should be Rodriguez or Welbeck

 

welbeck is pretty decent for England. Yet crap for united.

Sturridge is the only english player with more goals that rodriguez this season

 

I cant see roy dropping welbeck, though

[Saint Garrett]

Rickie. I'd only take Rodriguez if Welbeck gets injured or we need another wide man. I guess it comes down to whether we want to play inside forwards or wingers like Lennon/Townsend.

 

Carroll is an awful footballer who causes problems. Depends what we're taking him for if it's either him it Lambert.

[M271]

I'd like to think that it was telling that Roy Hodgson was at St Marys again yesterday rather than be at The Britannia to watch Carrolls return.

[DuncanRG]

If all three players were fit and in form I'd take Carroll. That fourth striker is going to be used as an option off the bench to test tired defenders and change the attacking approach - and they might be thrown on if we're desperate for a goal in the last ten minutes. Carroll has the brute force to make that work. While it's nice that Lambert can link up with the midfield and play the passing game, that's not what he'd be there for. However, Carroll's probably returned to fitness too late to be in contention. Unless he plays out of his skin every week from now til the end of the season, Lambert will go.

 

Rodriguez is competing to go ahead of Townsend, Barkley, Chamberlain et al rather than as one of the strikers. If he does make it into the plane it'll be in addition to one of Lambert and Carroll.

[John Boy Saint]

Trouble is in Carroll brute force does not work outside the UK as refs don't tolerate it, in Rickie you have a bloke who has wonderful vision for a pass and the ability to stick it in the back of the net, then add in the Lambert Wellbeck show in qualifying and I think that made folks sit up.

[DuncanRG]

Trouble is in Carroll brute force does not work outside the UK as refs don't tolerate it, in Rickie you have a bloke who has wonderful vision for a pass and the ability to stick it in the back of the net, then add in the Lambert Wellbeck show in qualifying and I think that made folks sit up.

 

To be fair it's been a while since Carroll has played an international so I can't remember how referees treat him, haha.

 

Like I say, Carroll would have to lay the league to waste from now to earn his place. He probably won't. Good point on the Welbeck link-up as well, that was encouraging.

[laughba]

Lambert and Rodriguez can both go. Lambert takes the 4th striker spot, and Jay (as in the Chile game) takes a winger spot.

[sentry]

Lets face it, we are not gonna win the WC unless a miracle happens. Therefore I take Rickie, Jay will have a chance in the future. ( But would actually consider Rooney, Sturridge, Jay and Rickie if it were me but Im biased).

[tajjuk]

Not sure why Carroll even deserves a mention, he's spent most of the season injured, barely scored a goal anyway and has far far less to his game than Lambert. Cleverley is more deserving of an England spot than Carroll.

 

Whilst Lambert might not be banging in the goals (double figures though isn't bad) He's been a lot more creative this year, 8 assists, 40 odd chances created, even has an excellent cross completion record. I think if he can come up with another 3-4-5 goals before the end of the season (to finish on 13-15) then he'll definitely go. Carroll will have to score 8 or 9 before the end of season to be in contention I reckon and he's more likely to get injured.

 

Jay Rod is competing with Welbeck I think more than Lambert or Carroll, his best work this season has been from out wide, rather than through the middle.

 

I think he'll unluckily be in the 7 that miss out from the 30, Lallana will go and probably should start, Lambert will go as well but I can only see a few sub appearances.

 

Shaw, I have no idea if he will go. Cole is injured though now so it;s unlikely he'll get much game time.

[SNSUN]

Did I read Kyle Walker faces a battle to be fit? Who's third choice right back? I'd assume he'd still take an extra centre back over Clyne though and just use Smalling there...

[Mattio]

I think you've forgotten someone...

 

[Leicestersaint]

It would be ridiculous to take Carroll.

[the saint in winchester]

Lambert coming off the bench and making the impact he made yesterday in front of Roy Hodgson was probably the best thing that could have happened for his World Cup chances. We all know Rooney and Sturridge will be our starters. The remaining striking spots in the squad need to be guys who can make an impact off the bench (and possibly be penalty takers).

 

I think Lambert will go.

 

I think J Rod will be in the 30 and told he is pencilled in as one of the 7 to be culled before the WC.

 

Yes, agree with all this. Well, all but Rooney. I wouldn't take him at all.

[jamesfp1]

Take all 3 + sturridge

[david in sweden]

Trouble is in Carroll brute force does not work outside the UK as refs don't tolerate it, in Rickie you have a bloke who has wonderful vision for a pass and the ability to stick it in the back of the net, then add in the Lambert Wellbeck show in qualifying and I think that made folks sit up.

 

interesting point well made.

 

Carroll has had " incidents " both on and off the pitch ....and the occasional brush with the law.(according to Wikipedia).

 

Foreign referees have different interpretations of " physical contact " on the pitch than we tolerate in England, and he'd be on a yellow card before HT in most games.

 

If he a got a red card.....he'd be out of the reckoning, and consequently out of the whole competition, and we'd be one striker less and we don't have a lot to choose from in the first place.

 

One goal in game back doesn't prove anything. If he outscores Lambert / Jay Rod upto May - then he might be worth a serious look, but if the yellow cards start to mount up - he'd be a walking time-bomb.

[SaintAndyB]

Rodrriguez or Lambert for me. Carroll is too prone to injury. I think lambert, Rodriquez isnt good enough yet.

[Saint_Tony]

Rodriguez won't make the 23 if Welbeck is fit. Don't rate him, but he looks a lot better for England than United. I'm not convinced J Rod can handle the pressure of a World Cup. Although if we're looking at form and goals you could argue he deserves a spot. I think Rickie is probably still ahead of Carroll in Roy's plans. Carroll is surely too much of a risk still and has still done **** all so far this season. Let's see how he gets on against United on Saturday

[Bearsy]

roy will deffo take at least 5 forwards cos we're playing 4-3-3. First choice starters will be Rooney, Sturridge + Wellbz. Lambart or Carroll is toss up, one or the other. Rodriguez will be battling it out with Sterling & Townsend.

[Lighthouse]

It's between Lambert and Carroll. I don't think JR will go if he scores another 10 goals, Roy sees him as back up to Welbeck unfortunately.

 

Got a horrible feeling another 4 or 5 goals this season will get Carroll in the squad.

[shurlock]

Don't forget Berahino.

[Saint Rees]

Struggle to see what Carroll provides that Lambert doesn't. Rickie has earnt it, thoroughly deserves to go for me. Carroll has been far too in and out this season

 

Rodriguez will just miss out IMO but he's improving all the time, expect him and many other current Saints players to be in the Euro 2016 squad

[Bearsy]

here is article bout Ponch ruining Lambos chances by making him play football. It ought to be facepalm but i dunno that they're wrong.

 

http://www.football365.com/f365-says/9228675/F365-Says

[trousers]

here is article bout Ponch ruining Lambos chances by making him play football. It ought to be facepalm but i dunno that they're wrong.

 

http://www.football365.com/f365-says/9228675/F365-Says

 

Not an unreasonable viewpoint there

[beatlesaint]

I dont think Carroll would get away with his bully boy tactics so much with non Premiership refs who seem to blow their whistle at the slightest contact.

Rickie can play football, can fill more than just the target man role coming on at the end if a goal is needed, his assist record is fantastic and for that alone it should be a no brainer that he goes.

 

Jay Rod if he continues improving should be a nailed on in four years if we qualify, he will be what 28/29 and in his prime by then.

[PokingFun]

I think Rickie would do very well with Sturridge, Sterling, Chamberlain to put in on goal. If Rooney isn't working or isn't fit Rickie is a good option to have. He doesn't have pace himself clearly, but that's fine if others in the attack do.

 

The biggest factor is Lallana. He's become so good it's not about whether he's in the squad, it's whether England actually want to utilise a technically gifted footballer for once and start him. And of course, whether Rooney will trust any teammates or would rather do it all himself and shout at everyone else.

 

For me Lallana Rooney and Sturridge up front in the shape of the Liverpool and Saints front 3 would be great. Plenty of movement, pace, technique and goal threat. Please not just a regular 2 up front.

 

For me this would be an excellent front 3 with a bit of everything in their locker between them. Sturridge leading the line and the other two playing slightly deeper and doing the defensive work as and when required. It would be a modern set-up assuming Roy can find the right balance of the 3 midfielders that will play behind them. Gerrard obviously is one of them and the other two spots very much up for grabs imo.

[Saint_Tony]

Allardyce is getting a bit annoying, he talks about Carroll and the World Cup every press conference. To be fair you could argue that Crouch is more deserving of a spot than he is

[Chewy]

For me this would be an excellent front 3 with a bit of everything in their locker between them. Sturridge leading the line and the other two playing slightly deeper and doing the defensive work as and when required. It would be a modern set-up assuming Roy can find the right balance of the 3 midfielders that will play behind them. Gerrard obviously is one of them and the other two spots very much up for grabs imo.

 

Wilshere or oxlade will get one of the starting spots IMHO alongside gerrard, unless he plays lallana there, though I agree he should be in the front three.

 

As to the main point, like others have said, lambert ahead of Carroll for me, and Jrod ahead of wellbeck, but it think woy will go with wellbeck. I do think, hogue, that he will choose rickie and not Carroll. Would be made up for him too.