Roger Posted 15 March, 2014 Share Posted 15 March, 2014 J rod 12! J rod has been fab but lambert to create 41 chances is awesome. Robbie savage said he'd take Carroll prat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 15 March, 2014 Share Posted 15 March, 2014 Poor old Roger, I imagined the turmoil you must have felt when Robbie Savage didn't subscribe to the Roger Lambert fan club (sic). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 15 March, 2014 Author Share Posted 15 March, 2014 Poor old Roger, I imagined the turmoil you must have felt when Robbie Savage didn't subscribe to the Roger Lambert fan club (sic). Not really bothered about that but 41 chances created! I would have left lambert out today. However, I'd put him back in now as we are better with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 15 March, 2014 Share Posted 15 March, 2014 Just when you think he's down and out Le Rickie comes blasting back! Been saying for months he should go just because of penalties. Glad Linekar/Shearer have finally picked up on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 16 March, 2014 Share Posted 16 March, 2014 Well its already been mentioned, but if you're picking him on chances created and as a deep-lying support striker, there's no way he's getting in ahead of Lallana, Barkley, Rooney, Sturridge etc. The first two strikers pick themselves, the third is likely (unfortunately) to be Welbeck. The fourth is therefore going to be a target man, and in that respect I think Hodgson will rightly go with Andy Carroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 16 March, 2014 Share Posted 16 March, 2014 Well its already been mentioned, but if you're picking him on chances created and as a deep-lying support striker, there's no way he's getting in ahead of Lallana, Barkley, Rooney, Sturridge etc. The first two strikers pick themselves, the third is likely (unfortunately) to be Welbeck. The fourth is therefore going to be a target man, and in that respect I think Hodgson will rightly go with Andy Carroll. Roy will play Lallana and Barkley (if he goes at all which doubtful I reckon) in midfield and neither Rooney or Sturridge play the support striker role for England very well. Rooney is to interested in personally glory and trying to be every where at once and Sturridge is better playing off the defenders shoulder. Lambert can play the target man role well enough and the support striker role as well so seeing as the fourth striker is merely back up Lambert offers more flexibility in case of injuries than Andy "battering ram" Carroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 16 March, 2014 Share Posted 16 March, 2014 Poor old Roger, I imagined the turmoil you must have felt when Robbie Savage didn't subscribe to the Roger Lambert fan club (sic). Weird response. 41 chances is excellent, and I think it won't have gone unnoticed by the England manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 16 March, 2014 Share Posted 16 March, 2014 Well its already been mentioned, but if you're picking him on chances created and as a deep-lying support striker, there's no way he's getting in ahead of Lallana, Barkley, Rooney, Sturridge etc. The first two strikers pick themselves, the third is likely (unfortunately) to be Welbeck. The fourth is therefore going to be a target man, and in that respect I think Hodgson will rightly go with Andy Carroll. Can Lambert not play as a target man? And since Lambert can play in a withdrawn role and has a more to his game than Carroll, he's the more flexible option in the event of injuries during the tournament. Penalties have been mentioned. How many times have missed pens done for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 16 March, 2014 Share Posted 16 March, 2014 I don't think RL will go but for the first time in years England had a link man when he played. Sadly Hodgson is a cautious manager and will go with the old guard and players from the top 4. That protects him from the media criticism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 16 March, 2014 Share Posted 16 March, 2014 People moan about Lambert getting less goals because of mopo's system and playing deeper.... Then say they dont think he can play as a target man... Did you watch must of the last 4 years? He's a great target man ffs, but unlike Carroll he has the flexibilty to play deeper and across the front 3. 41 chances is great but hardly surprising, as I stated in the new striker thread... Lambert does a bell of a lot more for the team than some fans seem to notice, Ye we need a younger model, but the guy still has enough in him to get to the world cup, and caroll returning may just push him on... Carroll scores 1 - Lambert 1 goal, one assist. Long may it continue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 16 March, 2014 Share Posted 16 March, 2014 I like Savage as a pundit but amazed that he would pick Carrol for Brazil when the lad spends most of his time in bandages, one good goal and he is back in the running.......give over! You just know what will happen if Carrol gets selected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 16 March, 2014 Share Posted 16 March, 2014 The Commentary team on Saturday mentioned the Lambert v Carroll debate and the Cole v Shaw debate. For the LB slot it was a no brainer - Experience, especially IF Baines gets injured first game As was the Lambert/Carroll debate. Carroll is injury prone and will not be taken for that reason alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 16 March, 2014 Share Posted 16 March, 2014 I don't think RL will go but for the first time in years England had a link man when he played. Sadly Hodgson is a cautious manager and will go with the old guard and players from the top 4. That protects him from the media criticism Phew, so no place for Cleverly, Wellbeck or Carrick then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 16 March, 2014 Share Posted 16 March, 2014 Sadly Hodgson is a cautious manager and will go with the old guard and players from the top 4. That protects him from the media criticism Absolute rubbish. Hodgson has been more open to players outside the top four than any England manager in recent memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 16 March, 2014 Share Posted 16 March, 2014 Absolute rubbish. Hodgson has been more open to players outside the top four than any England manager in recent memory. And credit to him for that. Can't believe a Saints fan would accuse him of relying on the old guard - he's given first caps to four of our players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 16 March, 2014 Share Posted 16 March, 2014 Carroll doesn't deserve to go. There are also huge question marks about his injury record and he hasn't made a squad for ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 March, 2014 Share Posted 16 March, 2014 Absolute rubbish. Hodgson has been more open to players outside the top four than any England manager in recent memory. Well when you know that Chelsea,City,Newcastle and Arsenal probably don't have 6 regularly starting English players between them that knocks the odds down a bit. Just leaves Utd,Liverpool,Spurs,Everton and Saints of the top half of the table to use as a source of players.In England's last squad of 30 no outfield player came from a club outside the top 9 of the PL and with such feeble contributions from 4 sides because the just don't have many English players the others have at least 3 or 4 players each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 16 March, 2014 Share Posted 16 March, 2014 I like Savage as a pundit but amazed that he would pick Carrol for Brazil when the lad spends most of his time in bandages, one good goal and he is back in the running.......give over! You just know what will happen if Carrol gets selected. It is not only all that, Carroll will not get the leniency from World Cup referees that he does in the Premier League. Think of the times that Crouch used to get free kicks awarded against him; and Carrol's constant use of his elbows will see him sent off in his first game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 March, 2014 Share Posted 16 March, 2014 It is not only all that, Carroll will not get the leniency from World Cup referees that he does in the Premier League. Think of the times that Crouch used to get free kicks awarded against him; and Carrol's constant use of his elbows will see him sent off in his first game. you just can't tell, saw 3 matches yesterday, only Saints game was relatively free of extremely arbitrary reffing decisions and even then you could question a couple of non-yellow given occasions. Foy is supposed to be a decent ref but his decisions were totally arbitrary in a couple of cases, same offences, different punishments, Baker should have gone early on if Willian's efforts were worth 2 yellows. Kompany's dismissal was iffy, it was a dog fight between he and Jelavic with Kompany committing the last of 3 or 4 fouls and getting a red card, plenty would have blown up for a foul against Jelavic before then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_John Posted 16 March, 2014 Share Posted 16 March, 2014 It is not only all that, Carroll will not get the leniency from World Cup referees that he does in the Premier League. Think of the times that Crouch used to get free kicks awarded against him; and Carrol's constant use of his elbows will see him sent off in his first game. Good point, the foreign refs will not put up with his elbows, pushing and throwing his arms around every time he jumps for the ball... Another thing in Rickie's favour is that coming on late is sometimes difficult for players to get up to speed with the game. This is the second time (after Scotland) where Rickie has scored within 60 seconds of coming on whereas Donkey came on at Everton last week and had no impact on the game........Back to the thread, it would be interesting to know how many chances that the other forwards have made Roo, Sturidge etc. I bet the SUM of the rest will not come anywhere near Rickie's 41? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCholulaKid Posted 16 March, 2014 Share Posted 16 March, 2014 I like Savage as a pundit Seriously? ****ing hell - he is easily one of the worst pundits employed in recent times by the BBC. Presumably brought in to be 'controversial' - the man is an A grade idiot (Armani tattoo 'n' all) Lambert should go ahead of Carroll - as others have said he can be target man as well as link up play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 16 March, 2014 Share Posted 16 March, 2014 Absolute rubbish. Hodgson has been more open to players outside the top four than any England manager in recent memory.due to lack of players and injuries, do not be under any illusion that RL would have got a cap had it not been for injuries and suspensions. The media were scathing and oblivious to RL over play until he played for England. The general man in the street relates to the RL story and he is very popular but Hodgson is a cautious man and I feel will take the old guard etc. I do hope I'm wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 16 March, 2014 Share Posted 16 March, 2014 He changed the game when he came on. JRod is not suited to the lone striker whereas Lambert is. He'll start next game and rightly so. 41 chances is ridiculous. How many assists is it now? To think people have been writing him off. Lunancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 16 March, 2014 Share Posted 16 March, 2014 Absolute rubbish. Hodgson has been more open to players outside the top four than any England manager in recent memory. This. The season running up to the last World Cup, Darren Bent, when in his prime, was the top English goalscorer with 23 goals in the Premiership for flipping lower mid-table Sunderland and never got a look in. He arguably did more to justify a place in that squad than any of the three players being discussed in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Division South Days Posted 16 March, 2014 Share Posted 16 March, 2014 I think Hodgson would have been well impressed with with Rickie's impact on the game and would have done his chance of selection a power of good. Coming on as sub providing a goal plus an assist. This would probably the role which would be expected in Brazil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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