Sevvy Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 http://mobile.newsnow.co.uk/A/701461201?-11205:798: Take it with pinch of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 £21 million? Plus which player? Because £21 million by itself will not be sufficient to prise him away from us, not when other major glory clubs want him too. What was more interesting was the story that there was a Spanish alternative being lined up by Chelsea who was reckoned to be as good, but who would cost £10 million less. But that still leaves Man Utd and others looking at him and we have no need to sell anyway. I'd ignore claims that the deal is nearly done, as we have been promised that that they had been done in the January transfer window and nothing happened then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneawol Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 The TMW piece.. http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/europa/esclusiva-tmw-shaw-chelsea-affare-vicino-cifre-e-retroscena-537476 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 He clearly will go to Chelsea this summer. And we will be paid very well I'm sure. Frustrating that the top academy players we produce have a habit of being almost too good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 £21 million? Plus which player? Because £21 million by itself will not be sufficient to prise him away from us, not when other major glory clubs want him too. What was more interesting was the story that there was a Spanish alternative being lined up by Chelsea who was reckoned to be as good, but who would cost £10 million less. But that still leaves Man Utd and others looking at him and we have no need to sell anyway. I'd ignore claims that the deal is nearly done, as we have been promised that that they had been done in the January transfer window and nothing happened then. who's this spanish alternative? maybe we should go in for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 There isnt anyone Shaw's age who is as good as him, hence why all the top clubs would pretty pay anything to get him. He is phenomenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 I don't really care whether he goes or stays. I have no say over the matter and so see little point in worrying about it. The papers have managed to sell half our team plus the manager, so I guess at some stage I should take a view on it before blindly renewing the season ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 There isnt anyone Shaw's age who is as good as him, hence why all the top clubs would pretty pay anything to get him. He is phenomenal. Exactly. Lets be honest, when the seriously massive clubs are very interested it will be incredibly hard to keep him. (Especially when quite a few of them are screaming out for left back) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 There isnt anyone Shaw's age who is as good as him, hence why all the top clubs would pretty pay anything to get him. He is phenomenal. David alba isn't too far off his age and for me at least he's a better player at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 David alba isn't too far off his age and for me at least he's a better player at the moment He is 3 years older than Shaw, I'd say that is quite signifcant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 He is 3 years older than Shaw, I'd say that is quite signifcant. agreed, Alaba is class but 3 years is a long time and I'd expect Luke to be better than Alaba is now in 3 years time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 £21 million? Plus which player? Because £21 million by itself will not be sufficient to prise him away from us, not when other major glory clubs want him too. What was more interesting was the story that there was a Spanish alternative being lined up by Chelsea who was reckoned to be as good, but who would cost £10 million less. But that still leaves Man Utd and others looking at him and we have no need to sell anyway. I'd ignore claims that the deal is nearly done, as we have been promised that that they had been done in the January transfer window and nothing happened then. I suggest you brace yourself for that fact that we won't get much more than £20m for him. That is a lot for a player his age who isn't the finished article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 I suggest you brace yourself for that fact that we won't get much more than £20m for him. That is a lot for a player his age who isn't the finished article Exactly, he's not great defensively as of yet. 20 million would be a goodly sum for him just now because there are better players available for far less and they are the finished article. If you offered me Coentrao or Kurzawa for Shaw as a straight swap I'd be really made up. Weren't Utd supposed (paper talk I guess) supposed to be considering a bid of just 30 million for Shaw and Lallana ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 £27.5m to Chelsea. Thought it was to be in Jan' but was wrong but nevertheless I believe that is the deal agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 Am I the only one that thinks we'll keep hold of him for at least another year? I'd love to be a football journalist right now, every club is interested half our team. Easy stories to write. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 It was on the Beeb gossip page the other day about Shaw AND Lallana to Man Utd for £30 million. Funniest thing I read in ages. If the big boys do come in for our jewels this summer, the one I'd really rather we kept hold if is Lallana. Irreplaceable IMO. Only losing Shaw would be a great result, not losing any would be dreamland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 In my opinion I think we still have another year of Shaw at our club. Paper talk is paper talk but he is making all the right noises about knowing we are the best place for his development. My best guess is season after next he leaves for a significant fee! Those suggesting a fee is agreed, why would we have done so? His value is only going upwards, there is potential for a bidding war and he may yet go to the Brazil. If nobody wants to pay over the odds then I can't imagine we would sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 who's this spanish alternative? maybe we should go in for him Bernat apparently. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/chelsea-identify-manchester-united-target-bernat-cole-replacement-1440329 But there is no likelihood that this story has any more basis of fact than any of the other speculation about Shaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 I honestly will be bitterly disappointed if we let him go for less than £30m. I realise that's pretty much a world record fee for a left back, crazy money, and he might not be the best left back in the world, but in today's (Premiership) market that is the kind of money that should be required to get prise him from us. I know two transfers are never equal, but James Milner signed for City for £28.5m and that was 4 years ago. It won't be long before Shaw starts scoring goals and he will become a real game changer. He already is pretty much our bets attacking threat, Lallana apart and when is not in our side we really struggle to create chances. He's that important. When he leaves our team will be weakened. The squad might benefit, but the team won't. Man United are desperate for a left back, as are Chelsea. Man City could seriously do with an upgrade in that position IMO, so that makes him the hottest property out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 He clearly will go to Chelsea this summer. And we will be paid very well I'm sure. Frustrating that the top academy players we produce have a habit of being almost too good. rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 I suggest you brace yourself for that fact that we won't get much more than £20m for him. That is a lot for a player his age who isn't the finished article It is simply the laws of supply and demand. We are talking about the top four glory clubs all expressing interest in him. It depends how much they want him. We don't need to sell him and they aren't short of a bob or two. When he wants to go himself, that will shift the emphasis a bit. But if he stays a season longer, his value will only go one way. £30 million is less than half of what Bale commanded. It depends whether he is seen as having the same potential eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 Im not fussed tbh hes a great player but he hasn't scored and barely assisted in any which is poor considering everyone is raving about his attacking game and dont get me started on the amount of goals we've let in because he isn't back in position from running down the byline , he was lucky Joe Hart saved his ass for England ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 We will easily get 30m. If not then whoever negotiates the deal is a plank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 I don't think he will go, much better off in the first team with us than sat on his arse in Chelsea reserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 I don't think he will go, much better off in the first team with us than sat on his arse in Chelsea reserves. why would he be sat on his arse at chelsea? he will play most games should he go there now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 he certainly is not 'clearly going to Chelsea' as of yet... but the club have to make ambitious moves in the summer to keep the likes of Shaw/Lallana otherwise it makes their decision easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 Am I the only one that thinks we'll keep hold of him for at least another year? I'd love to be a football journalist right now, every club is interested half our team. Easy stories to write. No. I think we underestimate the big picture at southampton. Luke has been with us for over 10 years (which technically gets him a testimonial lol) and has loved his time here. He may be a Chelsea fan but southampton is his family. It would be a huge change for an 18 year old with no guarantee of silverware. If he wants champions league football he may well be better off staying here and see how it goes next season. Unless of course that was the agreement last summer :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 No. I think we underestimate the big picture at southampton. Luke has been with us for over 10 years (which technically gets him a testimonial lol) and has loved his time here. He may be a Chelsea fan but southampton is his family. It would be a huge change for an 18 year old with no guarantee of silverware. If he wants champions league football he may well be better off staying here and see how it goes next season. Unless of course that was the agreement last summer :-/ If he wants champions league football. Better off staying here???? Sweet Jesus He would walk into the Liverpool, Chelsea and even arsenal sides Throw in united and spurs who are faaaaar closer to the CL than we will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 No. I think we underestimate the big picture at southampton. Luke has been with us for over 10 years (which technically gets him a testimonial lol) and has loved his time here. He may be a Chelsea fan but southampton is his family. It would be a huge change for an 18 year old with no guarantee of silverware. If he wants champions league football he may well be better off staying here and see how it goes next season. Unless of course that was the agreement last summer :-/ What?! That's the most ludicrous statement I've heard in relation to Shaw. About the only side in the top 8 that Shaw wouldn't get into is Everton. Give it a year and even that will probably not be the case. Champions League next year is pretty much a given for him, if he wants it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 He clearly will go to Chelsea this summer. And we will be paid very well I'm sure. Frustrating that the top academy players we produce have a habit of being almost too good. Not clear at all. I think he'll still be at saints next season and haven't seen anything at all that's made me think otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 Not clear at all. I think he'll still be at saints next season and haven't seen anything at all that's made me think otherwise. Me neither, but still would be surprised (and delighted) if he's still with us at the start of next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 I don't think the market will ever be hotter for Shaw - Man Utd need a new left back. Chelsea need a new left back. Man City are in dire need of homegrown players. He's made his England debut at 18 and is widely considered one of the best left backs in the league already. I could be convinced either way that he'll stay or leave, I've really no idea what will happen, but I do know that if he does leave we'll get an amazing fee for him as the three aforementioned clubs bid stupid money and we benefit from it. And, I suppose, when a player outgrows his club, that is the best case scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 Here's a novel idea. let's keep Shaw......we sure a shell could not get a replacement as good as him (even at his young age). the same folks saying what a great deal $x million would be are exactly the same people that would moan we are not ambitious if the player leaves or moan about lack of player loyalty. Jackanory posted an excellent piece of knowledge where he said he knows for a fact that Shaw doesn't want to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 Here's a novel idea. let's keep Shaw......we sure a shell could not get a replacement as good as him (even at his young age). the same folks saying what a great deal $x million would be are exactly the same people that would moan we are not ambitious if the player leaves or moan about lack of player loyalty. Jackanory posted an excellent piece of knowledge where he said he knows for a fact that Shaw doesn't want to leave. This for me. 21 million......really? Some of you so called fans want to give him away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 We will easily get 30m. If not then whoever negotiates the deal is a plank. Not necessarily. If he goes, and I certainly hope he won't, it wouldn't surprise me if the deal is structured with a lot of conditions. It could be 20 million with the potential to rise to over (maybe well over) 30 million based on club appearances, caps and so on, with a sell-on fee thrown in to cover a Bale-type situation. After all, he's still only eighteen, and that represents both promise and uncertainty - especially for clubs with high expectations and big competition for starting places. Having said that, the nutters running the big clubs are liable to do anything for a young, English right back. The more we keep saying "he's not for sale", and the more the big guys compete with eachother for his signature, the more likely it is that your 30 million will happen - sooner or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 Not necessarily. If he goes, and I certainly hope he won't, it wouldn't surprise me if the deal is structured with a lot of conditions. It could be 20 million with the potential to rise to over (maybe well over) 30 million based on club appearances, caps and so on, with a sell-on fee thrown in to cover a Bale-type situation. After all, he's still only eighteen, and that represents both promise and uncertainty - especially for clubs with high expectations and big competition for starting places. Having said that, the nutters running the big clubs are liable to do anything for a young, English right back. The more we keep saying "he's not for sale", and the more the big guys compete with eachother for his signature, the more likely it is that your 30 million will happen - sooner or later. Not sure I'd take £30m for Chambers either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 Having said that, the nutters running the big clubs are liable to do anything for a young, English right back. The more we keep saying "he's not for sale", and the more the big guys compete with eachother for his signature, the more likely it is that your 30 million will happen - sooner or later. Thought this thread was about Shaw. 30m for Chambers sounds like a decent deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 Not sure I'd take £30m for Chambers either. I'm still shaking my head at the calibre of players coming through our system. There's a lot of difference between selling a young jewel when there's nobody to fill the void, and selling one when there's almost a production line producing replacements. A year ago we were anxious about a long term injury to Clyne, God forbid, but now it doesn't seem anywhere near as daunting a prospect. If we were talking about spending thirty million on a left back, most people on here would rightly go ballistic, but keeping Shaw is actually not that far from being the same thing. There's also a lot of difference between selling young jewels and using the money to strengthen, and selling but using the money to pay mounting bills. Katharina's clear commitment to the academy shows that she "gets it", and her commitment to her Father's dream suggests that - if Shaw does go - we'll end up with a stronger all-round squad. I hope he stays but I'm developing a lot of faith in the all-round judgment of the people there now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 One thing is he's probably going to the World Cup and he's done it because he's playing regularly for us. I have a feeling he realises that he needs to be playing week in week out and that is what he'll get here so I think he'll be here next season at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 Thought this thread was about Shaw. 30m for Chambers sounds like a decent deal. Oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 £21 million? Plus which player? Because £21 million by itself will not be sufficient to prise him away from us agree.....but a mere £21 mill.....might buy his right boot, but not his left. IF he ever goes it'll be a record fee for a full back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 Another set piece goal from Targett today. Obviously we wouldn't want to carry on without cover but i'm encouraged by his progress and won't be slitting my wrists if we get silly money for Shaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint George Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 I hope he doesn't go and I don't think he will, not in the next year or two anyway......Loosing Luke Shaw will mean a 'whole lot more' than loosing Luke Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jim Posted 14 March, 2014 Share Posted 14 March, 2014 Id take a deal that involved Lukaku coming our way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 March, 2014 Share Posted 15 March, 2014 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9213465/jose-mourinho-says-aston-villa-loanee-ryan-bertrand-has-a-future-at-chelsea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 15 March, 2014 Share Posted 15 March, 2014 One thing is he's probably going to the World Cup and he's done it because he's playing regularly for us. I have a feeling he realises that he needs to be playing week in week out and that is what he'll get here so I think he'll be here next season at least. Why won't he get that at a top club? Which other left backs, Baines aside, will keep him out of the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 15 March, 2014 Share Posted 15 March, 2014 why would he be sat on his arse at chelsea? he will play most games should he go there now Because at this moment in time he is not better than Ashley Cole. He is younger and will keep getting better but, in the early stages at least, he is not an automatic pick. The assertions on here about what will happen re Shaw defy belief. None of you know what will happen so why post opinion as though it were fact? "He's clearly going to Chelsea". Says who? ST Charlie. Must be right then. As I recollect he has been going to Chelsea for the past three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 15 March, 2014 Share Posted 15 March, 2014 (edited) Because at this moment in time he is not better than Ashley Cole. He is younger and will keep getting better but, in the early stages at least, he is not an automatic pick. The assertions on here about what will happen re Shaw defy belief. None of you know what will happen so why post opinion as though it were fact? "He's clearly going to Chelsea". Says who? ST Charlie. Must be right then. As I recollect he has been going to Chelsea for the past three years. I would say that he is better than Ashley Cole, actually. Cole doesn't even play for Chelsea anymore, it's Azpilucueta (sp?) I think he'd also get into the Man Utd team ahead of Evra (if not immediately, within the next season for sure), and Liverpool too. I reckon if Saints show a lot of ambition and determination to keep him, it looks and sounds as if Shaw is happy here at the moment, so I'm hopeful he will be here for another season. Lallana is the one I couldn't bare to see playing in another team's kit. It feels like he's one of us! Edited 15 March, 2014 by niceandfriendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 15 March, 2014 Share Posted 15 March, 2014 Luke wants to stay and the club have no intention of selling him. Source? Family member in his age group at the club. Relax everyone, we're going to see Shaw develop at Saints over the next few seasons. He recognises he can improve a lot and Southampton provide the best environment for that. Seriously guys, don't underestimate the high moral at the club now. Behind the scenes the work the Club are doing to turn the Lodge/ Staplewood etc into our own "La Macia" with a family feel is incredibly important. Apparently on England duty it's more a case of others asking about life at SFC than the other way round. Personally I predict he'll leave after Euro '16 for big money to whoever he wants to go to (his commitment to us will be rewarded with us helping him move to the right club, not necessarily the one that pays the most and not necessarily Chelsea) unless we are in the Champions League ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 15 March, 2014 Share Posted 15 March, 2014 Luke wants to stay and the club have no intention of selling him. Source? Family member in his age group at the club. Relax everyone, we're going to see Shaw develop at Saints over the next few seasons. He recognises he can improve a lot and Southampton provide the best environment for that. Seriously guys, don't underestimate the high moral at the club now. Behind the scenes the work the Club are doing to turn the Lodge/ Staplewood etc into our own "La Macia" with a family feel is incredibly important. Apparently on England duty it's more a case of others asking about life at SFC than the other way round. Personally I predict he'll leave after Euro '16 for big money to whoever he wants to go to (his commitment to us will be rewarded with us helping him move to the right club, not necessarily the one that pays the most and not necessarily Chelsea) unless we are in the Champions League ourselves. :) I like JackanorySFC. On that happy note I'm off to do my chores before heading off to watch the mighty Saints d!ck Norwich. COYR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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