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GS, are you implying that Kreugers comments could be interpreted to mean that he could muscle in on the managers job?

 

If so that is one bizarre interpretation.

 

If not, please clarify what you're insinuating.

 

But not brand new.... Owners / chairman are doing this all over the world. You underestimate the egos of these people. They can do it all, or at least they think they can.

 

Difference is our new chairman is a coach and has been a coach for many years. Will he be able to step away? His comments lead me to think no.

 

Watch "the four year plan" all about QPR if youre in any doubts that owners/chairman interfere with 1st team training and selection

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Glasgow Saint does have a fair point - what is the new chairman's role? It's still not clear. At the start of his interview he does list his key skills as player selection.

 

For what it's worth I think he's been brought in to act as a charismatic figure head for KL, someone to lead with her ideas and keep her out of the regular spotlight and day-to-day discussions.

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I really don't think that Ralph Krueger could have said anything more substantial without certain posters picking it to bits in the minutest detail and trying to read things into it that probably aren't there.

 

There can't be many places where there are people so adept at reading between the lines, interpreting subtle nuances of the use of language to draw conclusions of what might happen if certain things came to pass and then predicting the further consequences of them.

 

I'm perfectly happy to take everything he said at face value and then to wait and see what transpires, before making any judgements on him. Despite the doom and gloom that was predicted when Markus Liebherr died, when Adkins was dismissed, when Cortese left, nothing untoward has happened, but instead there are really positive signs that the club is not for sale and that KL has made longer term plans to take the club forward by appointing a team of directors who seem on the face of it to be seriously talented people.

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Glasgow Saint does have a fair point

 

A fair point undermined by the likelihood that it'll be repeated time and time again until August followed by an "I told you so" if Krueger starts "interfering" or an "I'm glad I was proved wrong" if he doesn't.

 

I've got a copy of the full script here if you want to see exactly how it pans out.

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While I believe that Kruegar's comments are positive and they imply that he is going to be very hands on, I am a little confused.

 

According to the BBC report, Gareth Rogers remains acting CEO of the parent company. Does this mean that we are also trying to recruit a CEO? If so, what will their role be and will it clash with that of Kruegar? My confusion is compounded by the fact that Les Reed is shown as a director of the Parent Company - not of the football club.

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I really don't think that Ralph Krueger could have said anything more substantial without certain posters picking it to bits in the minutest detail and trying to read things into it that probably aren't there.

 

There can't be many places where there are people so adept at reading between the lines, interpreting subtle nuances of the use of language to draw conclusions of what might happen if certain things came to pass and then predicting the further consequences of them.

 

I'm perfectly happy to take everything he said at face value and then to wait and see what transpires, before making any judgements on him. Despite the doom and gloom that was predicted when Markus Liebherr died, when Adkins was dismissed, when Cortese left, nothing untoward has happened, but instead there are really positive signs that the club is not for sale and that KL has made longer term plans to take the club forward by appointing a team of directors who seem on the face of it to be seriously talented people.

I don't think anyone has been negative about yesterday's announcement, generally a positive reaction. You'll always get speculation and debate as to how things might pan out going forward, that's part and parcel of a forum.
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A fair point undermined by the likelihood that it'll be repeated time and time again until August followed by an "I told you so" if Krueger starts "interfering" or an "I'm glad I was proved wrong" if he doesn't.

 

I've got a copy of the full script here if you want to see exactly how it pans out.

 

You utter bast, trousers.

 

How DARE you post spoilers?!

 

We were all in the dark.

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It has been quoted that Ralph Krueger has said that none of our "young" stars will be sold "without a fight", so

 

You can bet your bottom (Canadian) dollar that we WILL sell some of our young stars, and that to me is not a Positive step towards SFC getting bigger and better

 

Plus of course, what are the parameters of "young", ie Lallana, Fonte, Lovren, Wanayama are not exactly what I would call "young"

 

I am still of the opinion that we will NOT get any better than we are at present

 

Just my opinion of course

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Freddy’s biggest job is to convince mopo to sign a new contract imho

 

I imagine this must be close or the talk about "connection" might be immediate egg on his face.

 

Wow. I never thought this day would arrive but it has. It's a miracle. I actually agree with something you have said!!

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It has been quoted that Ralph Krueger has said that none of our "young" stars will be sold "without a fight", so

 

You can bet your bottom (Canadian) dollar that we WILL sell some of our young stars, and that to me is not a Positive step towards SFC getting bigger and better

 

Plus of course, what are the parameters of "young", ie Lallana, Fonte, Lovren, Wanayama are not exactly what I would call "young"

 

I am still of the opinion that we will NOT get any better than we are at present

 

Just my opinion of course

 

Jesus talk about negative!

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While I believe that Kruegar's comments are positive and they imply that he is going to be very hands on, I am a little confused.

 

According to the BBC report, Gareth Rogers remains acting CEO of the parent company. Does this mean that we are also trying to recruit a CEO? If so, what will their role be and will it clash with that of Kruegar? My confusion is compounded by the fact that Les Reed is shown as a director of the Parent Company - not of the football club.

 

Typically, the role of CEO and Chairman are distinct. Cortese was atypical in the sense of being an executive chairman.

 

I think Krueger has been installed as chairman as he seems to possess a good mix of strategic nous and an understanding of how to face the public.

 

I'm sure someone will retain responsibility for the more technical aspects of corporate management. Whether that's Rogers on a permanent basis or a new appointment remains to be seen. I suspect it will be a mixture of Rogers and the Hotstepper.

 

I wouldn't get hung up on the parent co / football co distinction. The parent co has no other interests so it's just a cosmetic thing really.

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It has been quoted that Ralph Krueger has said that none of our "young" stars will be sold "without a fight", so

 

You can bet your bottom (Canadian) dollar that we WILL sell some of our young stars, and that to me is not a Positive step towards SFC getting bigger and better

 

Plus of course, what are the parameters of "young", ie Lallana, Fonte, Lovren, Wanayama are not exactly what I would call "young"

 

I am still of the opinion that we will NOT get any better than we are at present

 

Just my opinion of course

 

Lovren is 24 (a baby in CB terms) and Wanyama is 22. How old are you to consider these players "not what I would call young", 12?

 

No offence kid but leave grown up chat to the adults eh, or if you've actually left school at least do some research before spouting complete nonsense. Unless you are one of these weird breed of "WUM's" that seem to be infesting this site. Pathetic weirdos with nowt better to do than spend hours on internet forums coming up with internet personas to make up for their lack of real life social skills and human interaction. No sane Saints fan can have watched that video and come up what you've said whilst keeping a straight face.

 

Up the Saints.

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I'll reserve judgement until we see what he can do, for the time being i'm concerned by the shear amount of management waffle and guff he talks whilst not actually saying much of anything.

 

My main concern is the lack of objective and ambition they are showing, and he is in fact talking down success on the football pitch in favour of better communication with the fans. Ask arsenal how much they like not winning things...

 

Say what you want, Cortese came in and said bold ambitious things, and then he delivered them.

 

"5 year plan to return to the premier league"

Long term goal to become and established premier league team (done in 5 years :lol:) and push for europe in next 5...

Youth academy

50% of team from academy etc etc

 

The fact that this guy can't give any indication of objectives is concerning, its not hard to just restate the existing ones ala academy and 50% of fist team... but he didn't do that. Worries me. Gone from balls and drive of steel Cortese to what exactly.

 

Far from placated at this present time, a good summer and pochetino signing will go someway to instilling faith in me.

 

 

Summed up my feelings perfectly. I have been left more sceptical than encouraged.

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I really can't see how any Saints fan can be anything but encouraged by this interview.

I like the fact that he was impressed with the way Mopo deals with those around him. I am not so sure he would have been impressed with the Don.

No clearly set goals?

If Ralph had come out all guns blazing with "Champions League in the next 3 years" it would have been ridiculed endlessly on this forum.

Personally, I am not looking for such statements of intent. The club was loved before Ralph and it will be loved when he is gone. As long as he improves us as a club whilst he is here, then he is most welcome.

If I was to hazard a guess as to the type of man he is from just this interview, I would say he comes across as a thoroughly decent, intelligent human being.

Whereas the previous CEO only just came across as a human being.

Onwards and upwards.

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Just like when KL first spoke after Cortese's departure, these are welcome quotes about the overall plan, which most people will welcome at face value. There is little of real substance here but none of the real strategy nitty-gritty was ever going to be discussed at a simple press conference to announce their appointment, so quite why some people seem intent on analyzing it to the nth degree to understand what our in-depth strategy will be, and then act disappointed with what they've read, I'm not sure.

 

IMO, for some people to find so much negativity in yesterdays events takes some effort... but it's just a reflection on their own cynicism rather than what was said. Most people (I would suggest) will simply find it mildly encouraging and look forward to hearing more detail (and of course a new contract for MP) in due course, whilst maintaining an open mind.

 

If you can't give people the benefit of the doubt and put some trust in them to do the right thing, and want to be cynical about them from the start, then I feel sorry for you to be honest. But anyway, these people are in the minority so little point in validating those views with any more response than is necessary.

 

Welcome Ralph and co - I look forward to hearing more and seeing where the next part of our journey takes us.

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It has been quoted that Ralph Krueger has said that none of our "young" stars will be sold "without a fight", so

 

You can bet your bottom (Canadian) dollar that we WILL sell some of our young stars, and that to me is not a Positive step towards SFC getting bigger and better

 

Plus of course, what are the parameters of "young", ie Lallana, Fonte, Lovren, Wanayama are not exactly what I would call "young"

 

I am still of the opinion that we will NOT get any better than we are at present

 

Just my opinion of course

 

The reality is that we may well sell one or two assetts over the coming years. What I am hoping the "fight" is, is that for example Celsea want Shaw this summer....we fight to keep him BUT eventually they offer say 40m...I would say we win that fight.

 

As much as you would hope we dont sell it will happen but if that sale means a couple of real quality players in other areas and overall we are STRONGER then thats fine.

 

The difference of this strategy to Lowes is that he would sell and nor re-invest or would just buy mediocre.

 

Very early days but my instincy is that we are actually going to have better times than if NC was still around. KL seems to be entirely committed to her fathers legacy.

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If there's one thing Franko hates, it's vagueness.

 

Still blathering on about possible/probable too. You're spoiling us.

 

Excellent - no thread is complete without the cut your jib old boy - another marvelous piece of intelligent insight - a monumentous contribution as ever - you must be proud - well done!

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I read it as Krueger seeming to think there's a possibility of closing the revenue gap between us and the top teams, the 'price to pay' being the hard work it'll take to close that gap, compete financially with them, and offer competitive wages.

 

Ultimately, whatever his intentions now, the reality might end up being very different.

 

Maybe he intends to keep hold of players, paying for it by making us big in the US, but fails, and we'll have to sell some players.

 

Maybe he intends to sell some players to fund a competitive team, but Katharina will step in having fallen for the club like her father did, and keep the team together.

 

Not much we can do except sit back and watch, and hope we keep improving.

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I read it as Krueger seeming to think there's a possibility of closing the revenue gap between us and the top teams, the 'price to pay' being the hard work it'll take to close that gap, compete financially with them, and offer competitive wages.

 

Maybe he intends to keep hold of players, paying for it by making us big in the US, but fails, and we'll have to sell some players.

I really hope he doesn't think that.
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Yes, a documentary about 1 club at a specific time clearly impacts the decisions at completely unrelated clubs and situations with different people years later doesn't it.

 

But how many of these types of documentaries exist - how often do we get a real look behind the scenes? The thought that a chairman or owner could influence or interfere with team selections/training seems to be dismissed as impossible “would never happen”, but the one insight we have all been offered (QPR) proves that it does happen.

 

Are we to believe that QPR are a one off? Easier to believe that I guess.

 

I work daily with multi millionaires / billionaires – trust me when I say these guys are full of self-worth, full of capacity and the experts on literally everything.

 

What did you make of Freddy’s comments?

 

Options – A) No intentions to get involved B) some intention C) every intention?

 

1) I’ve had experience in major league sport and the principles are transferable

 

2) I’ve been a head coach. . . Everything needs to happen naturally. There need be no rush on either side

 

3) no rush. . .He should feel comfortable.

 

4) I’m going to come in gently

 

5) They don’t need sudden changes of direction right now

 

6) My strengths are sport-specific

 

7) I’ve been in a professional team environment since I was 17

 

8 ) I know this will be a difficult situation, but that’s what makes it exciting and challenging

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I don't think anyone has been negative about yesterday's announcement, generally a positive reaction. You'll always get speculation and debate as to how things might pan out going forward, that's part and parcel of a forum.

Did I say that anybody had been negative? I don't think so. I suggested that some posters had jumped to conclusions based on their interpretation of what Ralph Kreuger had said.

 

I've nothing against speculation or debate, but there has been very little scope for either based on Kreuger's interview. It is interesting to muse about whether there is more scope for idle speculation when somebody has been really quite expansive about their plans, or whether it would have better to have done a Cortese, who kept his cards close to his chest.

 

I would have thought that when less is said, the greater would be the scope for speculation to follow, but it seems not. Or is it that when greater detail is given, the more attention is applied to what has not been said? He hasn't mentioned his ambitions for us to play in Europe, so that isn't planned. He hasn't talked about keeping players, so they're all up for sale, blah, blah, blah, etc.

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Did I say that anybody had been negative? I don't think so. I suggested that some posters had jumped to conclusions based on their interpretation of what Ralph Kreuger had said.

 

I've nothing against speculation or debate, but there has been very little scope for either based on Kreuger's interview. It is interesting to muse about whether there is more scope for idle speculation when somebody has been really quite expansive about their plans, or whether it would have better to have done a Cortese, who kept his cards close to his chest.

 

I would have thought that when less is said, the greater would be the scope for speculation to follow, but it seems not. Or is it that when greater detail is given, the more attention is applied to what has not been said? He hasn't mentioned his ambitions for us to play in Europe, so that isn't planned. He hasn't talked about keeping players, so they're all up for sale, blah, blah, blah, etc.

There is plenty of scope for speculation, it isn't a particularly hard thing to conceive. Most people have been positive about the appointment, this is a forum to speculate and question what might be their intentions.
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I miss Nicola.

 

You're not alone. He had people (most importantly the players) believing that we were going to get into the top four. Despite what some people on here say, he was incredibly motivating; I know (from hearing from them first hand) that some club employees woke up each day with a text from Cortese urging them onwards and supporting them in a very personable way. They would also get one at the end of the day praising what they had achieved and spurring them on to greater things. Unquestionably he had bad points too, but IMO these were outweighed by the positives.

 

Ralph looks good and I hope he can have the same positive affect - he seems to have the credentials to so do, but I worry that the new structure the club is putting in place might have a hand-brake type affect on aspirations and what we believe we can achieve. I can understand why KL is putting more corporate governance systems in place; it will be interesting to see how things pan out and as many on here have commented, it's too soon to really know what will happen.

 

So, anyone with any news on Cortese's takeover bid?? [joke].

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Somewhere in this thread it was mentioned that Cortese didn't do many open interviews. After reading the hundreds of amature psychologist analysis's in this thread it's really no wonder is it. IF our new chairman ever stumbled across this forum I'd wager he'll think twice before deciding its worthwhile trying to be open and candid any time soon.

Can't we just take a chil pill and enjoy the rest of what's been an enjoyable premier league season for saints fans?

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You're not alone. He had people (most importantly the players) believing that we were going to get into the top four. Despite what some people on here say, he was incredibly motivating; I know (from hearing from them first hand) that some club employees woke up each day with a text from Cortese urging them onwards and supporting them in a very personable way. They would also get one at the end of the day praising what they had achieved and spurring them on to greater things. Unquestionably he had bad points too, but IMO these were outweighed by the positives.

 

Ralph looks good and I hope he can have the same positive affect - he seems to have the credentials to so do, but I worry that the new structure the club is putting in place might have a hand-brake type affect on aspirations and what we believe we can achieve. I can understand why KL is putting more corporate governance systems in place; it will be interesting to see how things pan out and as many on here have commented, it's too soon to really know what will happen.

 

So, anyone with any news on Cortese's takeover bid?? [joke].

 

:lol: brilliant. If I got a load of spam texts from my boss every day I would be mightily p*ssed off.

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Somewhere in this thread it was mentioned that Cortese didn't do many open interviews. After reading the hundreds of amature psychologist analysis's in this thread it's really no wonder is it. IF our new chairman ever stumbled across this forum I'd wager he'll think twice before deciding its worthwhile trying to be open and candid any time soon.

Can't we just take a chil pill and enjoy the rest of what's been an enjoyable premier league season for saints fans?

 

Here is another person overestimating the influence of this place. It's just a bunch of blokes who should know better with some time on their hands taking the p*ss and analysing stuff to do with SFC. It's not really affecting anything is it and has precisely zero effect on the current and previous chairman's behaviour.

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Sorry if already posted but I hadn't seen this interview with NBC, and there are some new and interesting comments on there from Krueger, especially when he mentioned he wants us to remain different from everyone else by continuing to play young English players.

 

http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/12/southamptons-new-canadian-chairman-chats-growth-in-north-america-nhl-roots-saints-future/

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Sid the kid is coming to see us at St Mary,s

 

Also the following may help convince the disbelievers on here

 

“I don’t like to promise results, that’s cheap,” Krueger said. “I like to promise that we will create processes that enables us to reach our potential. Where that takes us, nobody knows. The sky is the limit in sports. We would like to build a model where we are striving for that potential. My sole focus is on the process. If our environment feels that we are doing the best on a daily basis, we will accept the results that come with that. Maybe we can reach those high aspirations that everyone likes to talk about… let the process decide that and let’s throw ourselves into that. That’s what I’m all about.”

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OK, I tried to read all the posts, but am too lazy, my take on what I've seen so far:

 

KL has a genuine smile.

Al Bundy played ice hockey

Everyone is saying the right things in my book.

 

KL is doing all this with her father in mind? Never a surprise to me, but I'm glad to hear it from someone who actually knows. :)

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OK, I tried to read all the posts, but am too lazy, my take on what I've seen so far:

 

KL has a genuine smile.

Al Bundy played ice hockey

Everyone is saying the right things in my book.

 

KL is doing all this with her father in mind? Never a surprise to me, but I'm glad to hear it from someone who actually knows. :)

 

 

Al+bundy.jpg

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Had an interesting conversation today with a Canadian who is a big ice hockey fan. Impressed that we had persuaded Kreuger to join the club. He made an interesting point about his team building skills as demonstrated in the recent Winter Olympics. Apparently Kreuger was getting lots of flak from the commentators during the games regarding his advice to the coach about substitutions. In the end they all worked and when interviewed he described that his substitution advice had two main themes, can the players on the ice counter the tactics of the players on the opposition side, and do the players on the ice work in harmony with each other.

 

Whilst accepting that players rotate more in Ice Hockey than in football so the comparison is not exact, was his renowned advice on team harmony one of the reasons he was originally approached, and one of the reasons behind Osvaldo moving on? Pure speculation of course!

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I feel very positive about freddie - he is obviously very talented with a proven track record but more importantly he appears to already have a strong emotional connection. He spoke with meaning about his relationship with KL and clearly considers the clubs relationship with the fans to be of upper most importance. I thought it was interesting to hear him comment on how they don't need to prepare what they are going to say and that they will be open in everything they do, stark contrast to the don. Good news he can see how we can increase the commercial success of the club (not sure what that idiot was on about in one of the earlier posts) so I hope he is successful there. Lots of smiling and charisma, so I hope it is a happy place for everyone to work.

 

My only concern is the way he framed the future, talking about operating within our true means (or something like that) and having ambition to match. Makes me think that the big champions league winning target has been replaced with an objective we can afford. I hope it doesn't mean we will sell too many players but we need to accept that some will go - Lallana and Shaw this summer for sure. You can't turn £60m down.

 

I wouldn't be surprised to see stripes back next season.

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He has more sporting experience than Cortese.

 

And does he have the business experience ? My main concern is how he will fend off big clubs over the summer. With NC we knew he would squeeze their balls dry.

 

Hes not going to be coaching the team, so not sure the relevance of the sporting experience comment.

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